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I gotta give a like and comment to this commentary 🤣. I don't know what's really about it but *the constant lip smacking and 👀 eye-rolling* performed by the late Heath Ledger he brought all this charismatic full circle. Rest in peace 🙏 dear friend 😢
Hello y’all; I love your reactions thus far. You guys are so real; I love how y’all put time & effort in voicing your sentiments and opinions. Is it possible for you guys to react to more Black cast movies in any genre. If possible, I recommend Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Jamie Fox, Samuel Jackson, Wesley Snipes, Martin Lawrence, Ice Cube, Tyler Perry, Angela Basset movies (just to name a few). It’s just I noticed another reactor has started doing black movies and I haven’t seen too many from y’all recently.
Yeah, when I saw it for the first time, it was the first time I was legitimately terrified of the Joker. You could hear a pen drop in the audience I was with.
I remember when I saw it in theaters, a couple of girls in front of me were not exactly whispering about the shock scene right before that part of the movie, and then "LOOK AT ME!" and they both immediately shut up and snapped their heads to the screen. I had to suppress a laugh at how stunned they were. There's also the story about how Heath got into the mindset of the Joker by locking himself away in a hotel room and letting the front desk staff know that there might be reports about weird laughter coming from his room. IIRC he spent something like 3 weeks in a hotel room, never leaving it, and dove deep down into the role to the point he was answering room service in character. It's also why in the interrogation scene he asked Christian Bale to actually hit him instead of acting the punch, because he "wasn't feeling it." The take where Bale actually hit him is the one in the movie, and the way he dragged that absolutely sociopathic laugh from the depths of his skills actually left Christopher Nolan with his jaw hanging open on set so much he forgot to call "cut." Truly a transformative method actor that could morph into any role. Also, a lot of people, a LOT of people get it wrong, but he didn't lick his lips to keep his prosthetic scars on. He licked his lips because that's a warmup he did for his face and voice for acting/singing, and a lot of people when they first saw it on previous movies said it looked kind of creepy, so he just incorporated it into the character.
I used to teach horror movie courses to college kids. Every semester, I would tell them, "The scariest moment in fictional cinema isn't in a horror movie: It's in The Dark Knight." That would be this scene. I both eagerly anticipate and dread its utterance.
@@vagabond142I'm sorry, but almost none of that is correct. It was the prosthetic that yielded the tounge. He did not lose his mind while filming or spin out into another personality, etc. That's been thoroughly and exhaustively debunked. He died bc he mixed medications for insomnia, period. There doesn't need to be grand lore behind someone's death.
Its magic, the way you guys edit in the commentary side by side with the film. Never one overpowering the other. Perfect balance.@@OfficialMediaKnights
@@kiaayo33yeah he finished the dark knight months before he’s death. He was already in the middle of doctor parnassus when he died. He was suffering from flu/ Pneumonia from working outdoors in London in the rain and middle of a freezing winter. He was just trying to get himself better for the 2nd half of filming. On the soundstages in Vancouver.
Everyone, even i, did not expect that Ledger, the teenage heart throb could do such a role, seeing he was mostly known for romance movies. When you see him in this movie, Ledger is completely gone, he is 100% the Joker.
@brian19991 Joaquin's Joker was phenomenal, just with a different take. And that movie might not be for everyone, but it's brilliant. Now if you're talking Leto's Joker, then that's a discussion.
@@artcast007Joker wanted to goad Batman into killing out of anger or hatred not accidentally causing someone’s death by trying to save another life in the process. If Batman had killed Harvey just for the sake of killing Harvey that would’ve been breaking his rule.
I think that's why the Joker is such a scary character and an amazing villain, imo: "Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
Ledger aside, Aaron Eckhart acts his heart out in this movie. From the idealistic DA, the moments of frustration with the system and finally the broken man that is Two Face, he nails everything.
@@renzero9206 The fact that my personal favorite actor ever only lands fourth best performance (in my personal ranking) says something about the caliber of acting in this movie. Then again, Gary gets fewer lines than the other three and he delivers them as convincingly as usual.
Also the writing is just brilliant. The fact that broken Harvey is sort of the final boss, coming back to haunt our heroes for their past mistake, allowing the Joker to win even in defeat
We keep coming back to Heath Ledger’s performance as the Joker because it is truly the LAST time a character in a comic book MOVIE had any true darkness. Yes, the character is over the top, and yes Ledger’s version has been memed to death by now, BUT any time I sit down to actually watch his performance in context, with the entire movie surrounding him, Ledger’s Joker IS madness. No one would necessarily aspire to be this Joker, as fascinating as he is. He lives in a nihilistic darkness that is truly terrifying. He’s beyond rehabilitation. Beyond redemption. His naked brazenness characterizes him somehow as both a victim AND a perpetrator. No character in a comic book movie since has ever gone that deep into true human darkness. People can do impressions of Ledger’s Joker, and people can have equally watchable takes on the character, but NO one will ever again make the character feel equally human and mythic.
You know, this is actually an excellent point. Over the years, our understanding of villains has changed drastically. Think how in the 80s and 90s villains were villains just to be evil, or for money. Very straightforward. It was after, that there were more layers added to villains and then we got the Joker, and that was such a blazing flame of darkness, it feels like nobody truly was able to replicate it. His performance surely has a lot to do with that, but it's also in the writing. It's become more of a trend to humanize villains, or make them more likeable, especially through casting, but in that we lost a little of what villains are supposed to make us feel. Fear, a sense of doom, unease... All of those things are so present in the Joker, and the worst part is that when you look at some of the things he says, they make sense! He himself is madness, but he isn't truly mad - he knows exactly what he's doing. He simply relishes the chaos and seems to live for it. Like you said - he is beyond redemption, beyond rehabilitation and we need more characters/villains like that. It's actually so inspiring for us to rewatch this because it helps us understand what makes a villain not only unforgettable, but also unshakable - Ledger and Nolan's Joker is etched into our minds forever and that's how you know you've created something truly incredible and terrifying!
Really though, I've never seen a channel write a comment/response like that. Bravo! I wanted to add that, before Heath's performance, I never looked at the Joker as a true villain. It was this performance that turned me around on it and I don't think I've ever seen after this, an actor disappear into their character on this level.
I never noticed this for the longest time, Joker tells the cop in the interrogation room, "In their last moments, people show you who they really are." What does the Joker do when he is thrown off a building...he laughs. ;)
@@artcast007 I don't think so. He saved the boy, and Harvey was an accidental casualty in the process. I think that Batman would have saved him if he could. That's not what the Joker was looking for. He wanted him to kill out of anger or vengeance, not in an accident.
FUN FACT- At 29:10 Joker grabs Rachel, that scene wasn't in the script. Thats why you can see Rachel looking to the side for quick moment at the Director (at 29:30) as she did not expect Joker to just grab her like that as it was not scripted. This shows how deep Heath Ledger was into his acting. At 48:48 Joker clapping for Gordons promotions was also not scripted.
"That's organized!" "Literally, organized crime!" Not organized crime. Organized chaos. Ledger got it. He understood the core essence of The Joker is chaos and he went all in on that. Alfred said it perfectly..."Some men just wanna watch the world burn." Also, Denise....you were on to something during the scene between Joker and Harvey in the hospital. The gun was loaded, BUT the Joker had his finger on the hammer the entire time. So, even if he lost the coin toss, Harvey wouldn't have been able to fire the gun. Quintessential Joker - he gives you the illusion that you're in control just so that he can relish that moment when you realize that you never had it.
It's so funny how when Heath Ledger was originally announced as the Joker, a lot of fans were bitching that he was gonna be terrible and shit. Look at him now, he's one of the most iconic Jokers.
To be fair, i never expected Ledger to have these kinds of hall of fame acting chops. To me this performance is one of the all time greats across all genres
In the Killing Joke, Joker tells Batman that even he, the Joker, doesnt remember his origin, and prefers it to be multiple choice. I like how our Joker here has multiple stories for his scars.
Seems more like he changes the story depending on who he’s talking to. With Gamble, who clearly loves his family, he talks about an abusive father. With Rachel, it’s a story about a wife leaving. With Batman, he probably would’ve told a story about a soldier that was tortured because he refused to kill
Officer Ramirez mentioned her mother in the hospital to Gordon at the beginning of the movie, it makes her betrayal make sense. The first time I watched it, I missed that she mentioned that, so the double cross was more shocking to me at the time. I also missed the line about how he was playing the "government telecommunications project" "close to the chest" which referenced the cell phone imaging tech used at the end. Harvey's coin was a double sided heads (I make my own luck). He's definitely threatening the arkham henchman played by David Dastamalchian, but he would never have shot because it would always be heads. It wasn't until he turned into Two Face and one side of the coin was symbolically scorched that it truly became 50/50 per flip.
Not only did Ramirez mention it in the beginning of the movie but when Gordon is in the car with Reese, Bruce sends him a text with a list of officers who have a relative in the hospital. In my latest watch of the movie, i just noticed that Ramirez's name was on the list!
The "back-pack" is actually a second configuration for his cape. He uses the electrostatic memory system to reshape the cape into a "back-pack" shape, this was originally done because they were concerned the cape would get sucked under the rear wheel of the Bat Pod. But thanks to the beautiful custom fabric made by the art department (ULTRA fine parachute silk that was then frocked with tiny fibers to give it a "velvet-like" texture), the cape billowed safely into the air with the slightest acceleration on the Bike, keeping it safely away from the rear wheel. Great reaction and insight guys, thanks as always!
1:01:13 That scene did go wrong, the explosion didn't go off on queue, so Heath Ledger improvised the trigger malfunction, and the flinch was real when the explosion finally went off
When I hear the phrase "chaos is fair". I interpret it as chaos doesn't matter who you are. Like death, it comes for us all and it doesn't discriminate.
The older gentleman the Joker grabs at the party is now retired Democractic senator Patrick Leahy. He's a comic book fan and a Batman superfan. He's appeared in multiple Batman movies and even wrote the preface for a couple of DC graphic novels (Batman and Green Arrow). The way Michael Kane delivers the line "Some men just want to watch the world burn." gives me chills every time. If your interested in the Joker's origin, I recommend you get your hands on the "Killing Joke" graphic novel. Absolute master piece. Better than the animated movie (although it's still OK).
I've watched that movie a 100 times. Never had I noticed that in the begining when the robbers are talking about the guy who planned the job sitting out and getting a slice, the joker is in the back sit looking out the window hahahah.
I was waiting for this one. THIS is the one that is absolutely worth it. Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight Trilogy set the standard so high that STILL nobody has topped it.
You know what I love about these movies but also scares me? The way Nolan grounded this trilogy, I feel shit like this could actually happen. Like someone out there could become a Joker
Some fantastic storytelling! Everything we see, even the most unbelievable gadget from Batman’s arsenal still comes across as grounded in some reality here.
Yeah, but it's unlikely to happen, especially in the United States where facial recognition technology and is superb, law enforcement response time is usually very quick and people record everything. The Joker would be caught within a week, max maybe a month if he's smart. In another country that's less developed though someone like him could exist a little bit longer.
@@tenchravenIt's true. On average the response time from police in the US is very quick in comparison to some other countries. It's a fact we have some of the most organized law enforcement in the world. Someone like The Joker in this time period would almost certainly be caught. Pretty quickly actually.
Michael Cain as Alfred had a line to deliver as Joker comes out of elevator at Dent fund raiser but seeing Heath Ledger as Joker in person up close was so surreal that he froze and stepped back, Ledger kept going as if nothing and Nolan loved the take so much he left that one in movie.
Awesome reaction, guys! I am so glad you picked up on the way Gary Oldman's voice breaks when he says "I have to save Dent!" The sheer level of guilt his Commissioner Gordon is carrying around for what happened to Harvey is crushing him inside. It's one of my favourite line deliveries in the film and breaks my heart every time I watch the movie and hear that break in Oldman's voice. Heath Leger's performance in this movie is truly one for the ages, but I am always amazed at how great a performance Oldman delivers in this movie. Thanks for sharing your reaction!
Apparently, they did worry about the Cape catching the rear wheel. There was an idea for a backpack thing, but they just tested it with the cape, and it just worked perfectly much too there surprise 😅
Initially, I was infuriated when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker, fearing he would spoil the character. However, I couldn't have been more mistaken.
We’ve all been there with a specific casting announcement. We just have to let the performers do their thing and see what they come up with. Sometimes it doesn’t only work but it changes our perception of that character forever ❤️
The amount of iconic lines that are born from this movie is actually INSANE 😂 "Why so serious?" "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" "You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are"
Also don't forget. "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message." "Some men just want to watch the world burn." And numerous variations of basically any part of the ending monologue Gordon says.
43:27 Cinema Wins actually has a hypothesis that Nolan's Joker is someone from a military branch, who became disillusioned with the real world after war, and decided to burn it all down and everyone and everything else with it.
51:52 Just so you know, after Ledger wasn't "feeling it" when they were acting the punches, he asked Christian Bale to actually hit him. You can see it in his (Bale's) eyes after the first punch, a little glimmer of "oh shit, I hit hard!" However, it was because of being actually hit that Ledger was able to dredge that psychotic, sociopathic laugh from the very bottom of his diaphragm, and it made Christopher Nolan's jaw drop so much that he forgot to call cut at the end of the scene for a few moments.
I love this trilogy and it’s a great companion piece seeing your reaction! You guys are really refreshing and awesome to watch along with! 😊 Keep watching fun films you two!
What a masterpiece of a movie, heath ledger and Christian bale did so good in this. Heath ledger is the best joker of all time imo, but it was so sad to hear that heath ledger died before the movie came out, this movie will always forever be in my heart.
The Joker didn't "set charges" in the precinct. The bomb was inside that man's belly with the phone trigger. The joker just needed to position himself in a safe spot before making the call...
RIP Heath, he made such a great Joker that i don't know anyone will be able to compete with. I will never get over that scene when he sticks the pencil in the dude's head. This movie is so dark and the story is so good. Thanks a bunch for doing a reaction on this. Can't wait for the next. Hope you all have an amazing day and keep on rocking 🤘
The thing about this Joker is that his insanity is so crystal sharp in it's focus. He's not illogical. He has a very clear world view, a clear sense of purpose and while he's incredibly hard to understand from the outside because all of that is so foreign to a "sane" person, it's all logically consistent and fits within the overall narrative that the Joker has constructed. He's "insane" in the fact that he doesn't behave like a "normal" person, but doesn't Batman? That's the Joker's entire point. He probably developed an extremely toxic, broken view of the world and spent a large portion of his life being outcast and ostracized for it (as seen in how he reacts to being called crazy at the mob boss meeting), but there's a consistent internal logic throughout it all. Then he sees the Batman acting "crazy" (behaving contrary to societal expectations) and being, in many ways, admired and lionized for it. He sees the inconsistency there, and it infuriates him, and he wants to expose how irrational, inconsistent, and selfish the world as a whole behaves. In his world, he's not the crazy one, he's the only one who sees things the way they truly are. A lot of people complain (probably reasonably) that it would be impossible for ANYONE to predict things the way the Joker does in this movie, as he seems to always be five steps ahead. I speculate that it's more likely that the just has multiple plans for multiple outcomes and always plays it off as expected. It's a form of extemporaneous chaos, and he's never truly surprised because he figured the outcome was plausible anyways, and then moves on to the next chain of decisions to figure out how things are likely to go next. Also, in case nobody mentioned it, in the hospital scene with Harvey, when the Joker holds his pistol against his forehead, he's got his thumb held over the hammer of the revolver. This means that if Harvey pulled the trigger, nothing was going to happen. Even when the Joker appears to be giving up control of the situation, he keeps things in hand. Pun intended.
He is insane but not irrational. Not an uncommon situation. Edit: For example according to psychologist Kevin Dutton (who specializes in psychopathy) the top 3 careers of psychopaths are CEO, lawyer and media personality. BTW police officers are number 7.
@@OfficialMediaKnights by the way, the sky hook shown in the film is a real thing that was used by the CIA and other military branches decades ago. The issue was it was limited to clear areas (no trees or other obstructions) and on high up areas like the top of a hill. Even with the perfect place to use it, it could seriously mess a person up. It's use didn't last long.
The part where the Joker is blowing up the hospital, and the explosives momentarily failing was not scripted. Since the actual explosives weren’t working right, Heath fidgeting with the remote was improvised.
1:28:48 this right here is an absolutely fantastic way of complimenting the quality of this film. The Dark Knight has stood above so many other movies, not even just super hero movies, due to this focus on the human element. Well put!
I remember seeing this in theaters on release day. The trailer didn’t give too much away and everyone was on pins and needles waiting to see the new Joker. Every scene towards the beginning with him felt painfully short, we wanted more! We were like, this is what we’ve been waiting for and we were soo not disappointed. I grew up watching Heath as a heart throb in 10 Things I Hate About You and A Knights Tale and I could not wrap my brain around that being Heath. Still when I watch this movie I can’t believe it’s him. Truly so talented and I wish we could’ve seen him develop his career even more. His posthumous Oscar that his family accepted on his behalf was well deserved.
I love the”aha!” moment, where ppl discover Harvey’s coin is two-faced… and all implications that fact has had, throughout the course of the film, since his introduction… now that’s good writing and directing 😮😊
It's fantastic, because just like Dent uses the coin to create the illusion of impartiality and detachment despite rigging things in his favor, the Joker does exactly the same to him, pretending to be little more than a dog chasing a car while deliberately controlling every possible outcome. That's sort of an overarching theme in the whole film: people consistently try to underplay their plans and preparation as a screen for accomplishing those very things.
@@M4TCH3SM4L0N3 I also focused on the fact that Harvey used the illusion of a “coin-flip morality”, so effectively after Gordon “dies” that even Batman thinks Harvey has gone over the edge but didn’t(flipping when interrogating Joker’s accomplice)… But only after it was too late did Batman realize that Harvey actually went over the edge(after Rachel), by simply taking the same “coin-flip morality”, literally, and making the illusion, real.
The scene at 29:30 was not scripted and she was legit scared of his performance, the glance was a glance to the director but he grabs her back into the moment and continues.
Don't forget it's also the first time EVERYBODY has seen ledger in that makeup. Michael Caine was supposed to have a line when Joker walked in but the guy was shook af he froze
Been waiting for your recation to this trilogy again. You guys are my favourite reactors in UA-cam. You add so much depth to your videos it's honestly incredible. Keep up the good work. - A Huge Fan
I'm a firm believer the Joker is a military veteran with PTSD, that jus lost it... his planning, execution, calm in chaos, his understandin of manual of arms with different weapons and ability to teach guys off the street drill and ceremony..... you'll never be able to convince me otherwise
Agreed! There’s a lot implied simply looking at how he handles certain situations “Do I look like a guy with a plan” he thrives when people make assumptions based on his look. Yes he looks “crazy” but he truly meant it when he said he was not and…he isn’t. He knows exactly what he’s doing and what the repercussions will be which makes it even more terrifying.
My guess is probably Green Beret, since elements of what his character does fit that mould so well. Potentially a weapons sergeant, considering his understanding of so many different kind of weapons. The training of civilians in unconventional warfare and tactics. His choice to operate with small teams.
@@OfficialMediaKnights The first rule of unconventional warfare is deception and deflection. The problem with characters like Bruce Wayne is that they give their enemies far too much information. I mean that's true of most people. Someone close to me who has served in the military always tells me "always provide truth but make it *a* truth, not *the* truth"" but the Joker is always playing two lies, one truth and he gives away so little in his manipulations. The other problem Bruce has is that the Joker knows everything about him, has the luxury of studying him, down to what kind of weapon would be needed to deal with an armoured vehicle like the tumbler. Bruce has no such luxury, that's he why he is always scrambling because a detective needs clues and Joker either has so many it's impossible to distinguish which is real. Or, he has none, down to probably learning how to make his own clothes.
I likewise have believed this for years. I've further had the idea that what if this Joker an alternate Martin Riggs from the Lethal Weapon Movies/Tv Show. Except instead of meeting his wife and becoming a cop, he continued down the emotionally unstable path he was on after whatever happened to him.
Just rewatched the trilogy this weekend. It's still a masterpiece. The 3rd one less so, but all are so flawlessly shot and dialog, acting, practical effects are still top. One thing that I realised on The Dark Knight this time was that Gordon's end dialog was so comic book but wouldn't have landed well on its own as it's a bit too cheesy maybe for a serious film but gets around it by making it be said to a kid, so it's as you would say it to a child. There is so much good dialogue and comic book content in these films yet they remain grown up. They are so cleverly done.
"some men aren't looking for anything logical like money they can't be bought, bullied, reason or negotiated with, some men just want to watch the world burn"🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is one of all-time favorites. Heaths character owned the screen every time. The fact that even the "evil" of Gotham didn't even understand him was absolutely incredible. He certainly was in his own class of criminals. Out of all of the movie reaction channels, I look forward to yoursthe most. I love the real world experience in cinematography and writing that you both bring every time. It has reshaped how I view films in a good way. I can assess, critique, appreciate and enjoy every film and tv show with a new perspective. Thank you so much for your incredible content.
Heath ledger is such an amazing actor infact the scene when he holds Rachel was actually improvised by him and she was actually confused and scared. She was looking at the set for help
I love that the jump scare got both of you. Lol. Used to work at an Imax theater. Imax just brings another level of visuals. I always love you guys' views on movies. It's so cool to hear your perspectives.
Alfred:" A long time ago, some friends and I were working for the local government...." I love how Alfred tries to gloss over the fact that he was some kind of operative or spook, as a young man. "some friends and i,..." "working for the local government." What's an Englishman doing in Burma, bribing local warlords with rubies and burning down whole forests to kill one rogue?
Joker licking his lips wasn't just a character quirk. The prosthetic makeup would come unstuck on his lips, so to avoid losing time to constant touch-ups, Heath licked to keep the edges adhered to his lips.
Heath Ledger performance is amazing in this movie. I had a similar feeling with Matthew McConaughey in his role in True Detective season 1. Two actors who were always trapped in the same romantic comedy movies acting as the "hot bad boy" who fall in love. They both wanted to take on a completely different role and show their immense talent. And then after their performance you realize that they were both seriously underrated actors at the time.
Man coming back to this now makes you realize how wonderfully-written the Joker was. Yes he has monologues but you learn so much about him through actions - daredevil, almost suicidal panache, hiding in plain sight in the heist, the ransom scene, etc. Also, there is immense attention to detail to his character. He has a leg up on everyone, including Batman, because he understands who people operate and anticipates every response e.g. the bank robbers killing eachother, letting himself get caught then breaking out of jail by manipulating people. Even small details like him arming himself with the dogs because Batman had shown vulnerabilities against them and laying out nets to trap him in their skyscraper fight, the writers paid attention. Well done.
The Joker let us know the ferries scene was coming when talking about how people will eat each other when the chips are down, he literally tells batman "I'll show you."
First things first Ari & Denise your both awesome reactors mixing humour while giving detailed explanations of your likes & dislikes, sending big hugs from England 🏴 This is my all time favourite Batman movie, yes Ledger Joker is off the chart & he gives a mesmerising performance but the story, character arcs, drama, emotion & action all deliver in spades & the music score still gives me goosebumps. The scene that always gets me is when Batman is beating up Joker in the interrogation room & he's just laughing & saying " You got nothing" that's scary because this Joker thrives on chaos.
The thing about The Dark Knight is that it is a mob drama and a crime thriller which also happens to be a superhero movie as well. Also, being a Nolan movie, you expect from it to be clever, and it absolutely delivers. God, I love this movie. It shows that superhero movies don't need to also be silly popcorn flicks.
Nolan doesn't disappoint Joker keeps licking his lips because the makeup doesn't stick well 😂 and that accidentally makes him even crazier The part where he blew up the hospital, not all of the explosives went off at first. And that one sequence costed a lot of money, you really wanted to do one take. So he did that little improv, and it turned out amazing.
@@drafezard7315 Overrated? TDK us really overrated(Just like Nolan himself). Watchmen is more like underrated. Many people don't even know about the existence of this movie
59:55 I think that at the moment where he tells Dent about the truck load of soldiers getting blown up, that's it when he truly tells his origin story.
I really enjoyed The Dark Knight when it came out. I even dressed up as Batman that Halloween, and just a year later, Arkham Asylum (2009) was released, so it was a great time to be a DC fan. Looking back, though, there are aspects of the film that I was never too big on. For one, I feel like Gotham is visually the weakest in this film. Nolan turned the city into a more generic setting, allowing viewers to imagine Gotham as their own city. But to me, it simply wasn't Gotham City. It lacked the unique architecture, Gothic Revival & Art Deco. Coming across as Chicago with Gotham signs rather than it's own unique city. I'm also not a fan of the new Batsuit introduced in this film. It looks overdesigned, and the iconic Bat symbol blends too much into the suit when it should stand out. I much prefer the Batman Begins suit. I’ve never really liked Bale’s portrayal of Batman either. It's like his voice gets worse with each film. While I love him as Bruce Wayne, I just never thought he was a good Batman. And then there’s the Two-Face story arc. I feel like it was wasted, especially with his death. I would’ve kept him around for the sequel. One of the biggest aspects of Nolan's trilogy is its push to be “grounded,” which is fine, but I always felt like these films were too grounded. It just wasn’t for me, even though I still really enjoy The Dark Knight. The Batman (2022) fixed a lot of the problems I had with the Nolan trilogy, though it brought up some of its own issues as well. It seems like all the Batman films get some things right and others wrong. Unless you look at animation (Mask of the Phantasm comes to mind) I don’t think there’s ever been a perfect Batman film that truly embodies every aspect of the character. Is The Dark Knight the best comic book film ever? Well, that depends on the person. Personally, I’d rather watch Spider-Verse, Guardians of the Galaxy, Dredd, or Mask of the Phantasm, to name a few, over The Dark Knight, but it’s still a damn good movie. The Dark Knight always felt like a comic book film that was, at times, ashamed of its own identity in certain areas. At least compared with Begins.
1:01:02 actually they did get it wrong. The hospital was supposed to blow up way bigger, but a malfunction occurred. Heath stayed in character tho and just fiddled with the controller and the rest of the explosion suddenly happened
Common internet urban myth. Nolan planned the pause, the scene was rehearsed endlessly before they shot it. Heath acted out exactly what Nolan envisioned, there was no improv in that scene.
@@OfficialMediaKnights You should rewatch The Batman and jump into The Penguin after that. We're only a couple episodes in but it's been great so far and gives more characterization to that version of Gotham.
The beauty of this, according to some sites that i have read about "The Dark Knight", is that Heath read the comics, and not just any comics, but the comics that shows joker's insanity, cunningness and playfulness as well as writing a seven-esque diary that says everything on how to think, act, and SMILE like THE JOKER I like this kind of actors, but I am sad for them since for them, doing something like this, is craft even though it can definitely, 100%, wreck a man's sanity RIP for Heath, the most Joker of them all
I love hearing y’all’s over all thoughts. You definitely point out things that I notice but don’t know how to put into words. I love how yall go into depth about every aspect of this movie, and other reactions you do. Heath Ledger will always be THE Joker to me. He did a fantastic job at playing this character. I also agree that when this movie came out I didn’t fully understand it but re watching them now I actually comprehend everything that is going on and it makes me appreciate this trilogy even more.
Great re-reaction you two. I'm gen X and grew up on practical effects, shooting on location, stunt people, animatronics, and puppetry. I have friends who argue with me all of the time when I say practical effects are by FAR superior to CGI. Yes there are limitations how ever the texture and interaction of the actors is just believable because it's real. Much love and keep on keepin on J.
Interesting fact: the man that plays Gambol has multiple black belts. He’s a kick-ass fighter. You should watch his fight videos. His name is Michael Jai White
Thank god you guys continued with this series cause this movie is in one of my top three favorite movies, no joke. The practicals, the freaking score, the acting especially on ledgers part, RIP to him, may God rest his soul. I just wanted to say two fun tidbits. With that scene at the party where Joker threatens Rachel, that was actually the first time all the actors and actresses saw ledger with his full makeup and going all out as the joker so the looks of fear from everyone, all completely real. Rachel's actress was actually not expecting him to grab her face like that. Secondly, when joker blew up the hospital and he stopped cause it seemed like the bomb wasn't working, the detonator that he had on set actually stopped working so that whole section was improv where he started to hit it and play around with it. When it worked, that little jump was completely real. I have no words for how much I love this movie and I'm so glad you guys watched it. Love you both ❤ and hopefully can't wait for the next one, The Dark Knight Rises 😎
The news article that he's partying with models on the yacht wasnt out of pettiness, its him creating an alibi for himself, cause he's gonna go do batman things
It’s absolutely an alibi! But it’s hard to believe out of all the things Bruce could’ve done he went away with the entire Russian ballet after Rachel and Harvey made a comment on having tickets to go see them the next week. He got two birds with one stone 😂
My favorite part of this movie has become that moment Joker puts the gun to head and lets Harvey flip his coin. the confidence or indifference he seems to have that he might die is sooo cool and interesting.
It's almost a shame that Ledger's performance was so incredible because you don't even remember the other amazing performances! Whenever Aaron Eckhart yells as Dent/Two Face, I swear it takes my breath away and everything seems to fall silent for a moment. The way he gave such intensity to a few of the lines was incredible. I've seen it like 20 times and yet when he yells, "YOU CAN'T GIVE IN!", it still shocks me every time
This is not an ordinary movie. It is considered one of the greatest movies of all times! Teachers even use this movie in film schools to teach about cinematography, acting and composition. And Heat’s performance is one of the greatest of all times🔥😜
This movie never ceases to amaze me, it feels like watching an entire TV series with the amount of events and storylines and character arcs that Nolan manages to fit in. It's incredible.
Great reaction to Batman dark night guys🦇 Rip Heath Joker , Why so serious😅❤ My favorite part is a hospital scene, Everything becomes Chaos I'm an agent of chaos !!! I feel for Harvey dent feelings at the end when he says about it's about what's fair he love Rachel so much. The joker Chose me🪙 Can't wait to see you guys react to Dark Knight rises soon
One of the nice little touches is how Christopher Nolan let Heath Ledger directed himself in that found footage with the faux Batman on the tape. Such an amazing movie, performance and reaction from ya'll! R.I.P Heath Ledger.
It’s been great experiencing these with you two! I’m not sure if you’re planning on doing The Dark Knight Rises, but after PLEASE do Matt Reeves’ The Batman. I don’t remember seeing a reaction for it from you guys and I know you loved the Planet of the Apes films
Thank you so so much for joining us on this, y'all have been amazing throughout this journey! We did watch The Batman, but we would absolutely love to do a rewatch once we're done with this trilogy!! We are dying to rewatch it and share some of our thoughts and insights, and more importantly, hear what y'all have to say!!
@@TheRaidernation33 ain’t nobody need to see Batman and Robin again….bat nipples and Clooney as Batman can’t save it. Batman Forever is supremely underrated though
its always a pleasure to watch your reaction videos and hear your commentary, and the ways you guys give your fair assessment on a movie without completely trash talking it is great. The Dark Knight is a perfect evolution to Nolan's take on the caped crusader, does a great job introducing multiple villains without them stepping on each other's toes or trying to overshadow each other. the Joker can run wild in the background while giving Two-face time to develop and when they cross paths just wow! I really appreciated Nolan's more grounded approach to the Batman movies
I adore this movie. As you say. Heath Ledger did an amzing job playing the Joker, especially the interogation scene. It is said he prepared himself for the role locking himself to his apartment. With the practical effects. Nolan did everything with practical effects that was possible. The only things were the cape on the Batpod, Harveys face and the helicopter crash. Everything else was practical. The construction of the Batpod was even "What parts of the Tumbler can we use to build something like that?" So every pat of the Batpod was built out of parts of the Tumbler. I think the hospital didn't go as planned. One of the detonations went of late. The whole team was impressed that Heath didn't take a look back walking out of the detonation radius.
Whoa, almost 100 minutes? You know, when the reaction is as long as the movie, well, that's surely a movie reaction done right! And you guys have been knocking it out of the park with these movies and games. Awesome! EDIT: "Imagine getting [the hospital explosion scene] wrong", well, they did... when the explosions stop, Heath Ledger is actually improvising with the trigger and when they start again and start running that's the acting resuming. Such a fantastic scene that. Edit 2: And dang it, my 1st edit is apparently a myth and was planned all along. Oh, the internet!
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I gotta give a like and comment to this commentary 🤣. I don't know what's really about it but *the constant lip smacking and 👀 eye-rolling* performed by the late Heath Ledger he brought all this charismatic full circle. Rest in peace 🙏 dear friend 😢
Hello y’all; I love your reactions thus far. You guys are so real; I love how y’all put time & effort in voicing your sentiments and opinions. Is it possible for you guys to react to more Black cast movies in any genre. If possible, I recommend Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Jamie Fox, Samuel Jackson, Wesley Snipes, Martin Lawrence, Ice Cube, Tyler Perry, Angela Basset movies (just to name a few). It’s just I noticed another reactor has started doing black movies and I haven’t seen too many from y’all recently.
I love Christian Bale...but I gotta say I was very impressed with Robert Pattinson's portrayal of Batman. 💜
Agreed 😅👍
This movie, closely followed by “The Batman”😉
Joker's "LOOK. AT. ME!!!" still makes my blood freeze. Sounds like it came from the depths of hell.
Just pure chills!
Yeah, when I saw it for the first time, it was the first time I was legitimately terrified of the Joker. You could hear a pen drop in the audience I was with.
I remember when I saw it in theaters, a couple of girls in front of me were not exactly whispering about the shock scene right before that part of the movie, and then "LOOK AT ME!" and they both immediately shut up and snapped their heads to the screen. I had to suppress a laugh at how stunned they were.
There's also the story about how Heath got into the mindset of the Joker by locking himself away in a hotel room and letting the front desk staff know that there might be reports about weird laughter coming from his room. IIRC he spent something like 3 weeks in a hotel room, never leaving it, and dove deep down into the role to the point he was answering room service in character. It's also why in the interrogation scene he asked Christian Bale to actually hit him instead of acting the punch, because he "wasn't feeling it." The take where Bale actually hit him is the one in the movie, and the way he dragged that absolutely sociopathic laugh from the depths of his skills actually left Christopher Nolan with his jaw hanging open on set so much he forgot to call "cut." Truly a transformative method actor that could morph into any role.
Also, a lot of people, a LOT of people get it wrong, but he didn't lick his lips to keep his prosthetic scars on. He licked his lips because that's a warmup he did for his face and voice for acting/singing, and a lot of people when they first saw it on previous movies said it looked kind of creepy, so he just incorporated it into the character.
I used to teach horror movie courses to college kids. Every semester, I would tell them, "The scariest moment in fictional cinema isn't in a horror movie: It's in The Dark Knight." That would be this scene. I both eagerly anticipate and dread its utterance.
@@vagabond142I'm sorry, but almost none of that is correct. It was the prosthetic that yielded the tounge. He did not lose his mind while filming or spin out into another personality, etc. That's been thoroughly and exhaustively debunked. He died bc he mixed medications for insomnia, period. There doesn't need to be grand lore behind someone's death.
You guys have the perfect balance between conversation about the movies / actual movie reaction. Love your videos 😊
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They really are epic. Their breakdown after the movie is "must see".
Its magic, the way you guys edit in the commentary side by side with the film. Never one overpowering the other. Perfect balance.@@OfficialMediaKnights
@@CarnageJesterX haha funny rage bait, go to bed
Heath Ledger's performance as Joker was always the standout imo. Such a punch in the gut to Hollywood and the world when we lost him all too soon.
Agreed, I still think it's dumb how people thought this role had an effect in his death.
I also thought that until I researched him and his life.
@@kiaayo33yeah he finished the dark knight months before he’s death. He was already in the middle of doctor parnassus when he died. He was suffering from flu/ Pneumonia from working outdoors in London in the rain and middle of a freezing winter. He was just trying to get himself better for the 2nd half of filming. On the soundstages in Vancouver.
Everyone, even i, did not expect that Ledger, the teenage heart throb could do such a role, seeing he was mostly known for romance movies. When you see him in this movie, Ledger is completely gone, he is 100% the Joker.
sadly we got the dumpsterfire that was joker afterwards
@brian19991 Joaquin's Joker was phenomenal, just with a different take. And that movie might not be for everyone, but it's brilliant. Now if you're talking Leto's Joker, then that's a discussion.
Joker: “Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!!!”
Joker be spitting facts.
😮💨 one bad day
Ironically, it was the little push that Batman does to kill Dent and save Gordon's son & ultimately breaking his one rule: the rule of killing someone
@@artcast007he wasn’t trying to kill Dent he was trying to save the kid. Dent’s death was accidental not intentional
@@artcast007Joker wanted to goad Batman into killing out of anger or hatred not accidentally causing someone’s death by trying to save another life in the process. If Batman had killed Harvey just for the sake of killing Harvey that would’ve been breaking his rule.
I think that's why the Joker is such a scary character and an amazing villain, imo: "Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
Ledger aside, Aaron Eckhart acts his heart out in this movie. From the idealistic DA, the moments of frustration with the system and finally the broken man that is Two Face, he nails everything.
100% agree. It's often overlooked due to Ledger's incredible performance, but Eckhart was fantastic in this.
@@renzero9206 The fact that my personal favorite actor ever only lands fourth best performance (in my personal ranking) says something about the caliber of acting in this movie. Then again, Gary gets fewer lines than the other three and he delivers them as convincingly as usual.
Also the writing is just brilliant. The fact that broken Harvey is sort of the final boss, coming back to haunt our heroes for their past mistake, allowing the Joker to win even in defeat
Yeah Aarons acting was absolutely brilliant in this film. Wouldnt be the same with him.
Yeah poor guy never gets credit because of Heath
We keep coming back to Heath Ledger’s performance as the Joker because it is truly the LAST time a character in a comic book MOVIE had any true darkness. Yes, the character is over the top, and yes Ledger’s version has been memed to death by now, BUT any time I sit down to actually watch his performance in context, with the entire movie surrounding him, Ledger’s Joker IS madness. No one would necessarily aspire to be this Joker, as fascinating as he is. He lives in a nihilistic darkness that is truly terrifying. He’s beyond rehabilitation. Beyond redemption. His naked brazenness characterizes him somehow as both a victim AND a perpetrator. No character in a comic book movie since has ever gone that deep into true human darkness. People can do impressions of Ledger’s Joker, and people can have equally watchable takes on the character, but NO one will ever again make the character feel equally human and mythic.
You know, this is actually an excellent point. Over the years, our understanding of villains has changed drastically. Think how in the 80s and 90s villains were villains just to be evil, or for money. Very straightforward.
It was after, that there were more layers added to villains and then we got the Joker, and that was such a blazing flame of darkness, it feels like nobody truly was able to replicate it.
His performance surely has a lot to do with that, but it's also in the writing. It's become more of a trend to humanize villains, or make them more likeable, especially through casting, but in that we lost a little of what villains are supposed to make us feel.
Fear, a sense of doom, unease... All of those things are so present in the Joker, and the worst part is that when you look at some of the things he says, they make sense! He himself is madness, but he isn't truly mad - he knows exactly what he's doing. He simply relishes the chaos and seems to live for it. Like you said - he is beyond redemption, beyond rehabilitation and we need more characters/villains like that.
It's actually so inspiring for us to rewatch this because it helps us understand what makes a villain not only unforgettable, but also unshakable - Ledger and Nolan's Joker is etched into our minds forever and that's how you know you've created something truly incredible and terrifying!
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I wanted to add that, before Heath's performance, I never looked at the Joker as a true villain. It was this performance that turned me around on it and I don't think I've ever seen after this, an actor disappear into their character on this level.
I never noticed this for the longest time, Joker tells the cop in the interrogation room, "In their last moments, people show you who they really are." What does the Joker do when he is thrown off a building...he laughs. ;)
He was juiced, because he was going to get Batman to break his one rule. That's his whole goal. Even in his death, he would win.
Unless he was killed by anyone other than Batman. He wants to die satisfied knowing he accomplished what he wanted.
@steffondoyle8071 the Joker did win in the end... he got Batman to break his one rule: he killed someone ( Two Face)
@@artcast007 I don't think so. He saved the boy, and Harvey was an accidental casualty in the process. I think that Batman would have saved him if he could. That's not what the Joker was looking for. He wanted him to kill out of anger or vengeance, not in an accident.
@@artcast007” “I won’t kill you but that doesn’t mean I have to save you”
FUN FACT- At 29:10 Joker grabs Rachel, that scene wasn't in the script. Thats why you can see Rachel looking to the side for quick moment at the Director (at 29:30) as she did not expect Joker to just grab her like that as it was not scripted. This shows how deep Heath Ledger was into his acting.
At 48:48 Joker clapping for Gordons promotions was also not scripted.
It was also the first time that the actress saw the Joker in full make-up, so her uncomfortable stature is also genuine.
Same with the hospital destruction scene. Him messing with the trigger was unscripted. The explosives legit did go off late
@@aaronmckinney2583 What's impressive is how Heath Ledger just went with it and didn't stop acting. It's a masterclass in "The shows must go on."
@@dustinwilson4815 For real! Dudes an absolute legend
@aaronmckinney2583 Unfortunately that's a myth. It was all scripted down to the second and went off perfectly.
The Joker clapping in the cell is my favorite GIF to send people to show my sarcastic excitement for them.
This kind of Joker in this movie is a criminal mastermind.
Incredibly intelligent; psychopathic and chaotic
Pure chaos!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Just like Osama Bin Laden. Laden wanted to create so much chaos and fear that he literally sounded like a comic book villain.
"That's organized!"
"Literally, organized crime!"
Not organized crime. Organized chaos.
Ledger got it. He understood the core essence of The Joker is chaos and he went all in on that. Alfred said it perfectly..."Some men just wanna watch the world burn."
Also, Denise....you were on to something during the scene between Joker and Harvey in the hospital. The gun was loaded, BUT the Joker had his finger on the hammer the entire time. So, even if he lost the coin toss, Harvey wouldn't have been able to fire the gun. Quintessential Joker - he gives you the illusion that you're in control just so that he can relish that moment when you realize that you never had it.
You could also look at that much more cynically. “Chaos and madness for thee, but not for me.”
It's so funny how when Heath Ledger was originally announced as the Joker, a lot of fans were bitching that he was gonna be terrible and shit. Look at him now, he's one of the most iconic Jokers.
One of the most iconic villains, period.
He's not one of the most iconic Jokers.
He IS the Joker.
To be fair, i never expected Ledger to have these kinds of hall of fame acting chops. To me this performance is one of the all time greats across all genres
He's THE Joker
And he's second only to Mark Hamill. That's a goddamn accomplishment.
In the Killing Joke, Joker tells Batman that even he, the Joker, doesnt remember his origin, and prefers it to be multiple choice. I like how our Joker here has multiple stories for his scars.
Seems more like he changes the story depending on who he’s talking to. With Gamble, who clearly loves his family, he talks about an abusive father. With Rachel, it’s a story about a wife leaving. With Batman, he probably would’ve told a story about a soldier that was tortured because he refused to kill
Officer Ramirez mentioned her mother in the hospital to Gordon at the beginning of the movie, it makes her betrayal make sense. The first time I watched it, I missed that she mentioned that, so the double cross was more shocking to me at the time.
I also missed the line about how he was playing the "government telecommunications project" "close to the chest" which referenced the cell phone imaging tech used at the end.
Harvey's coin was a double sided heads (I make my own luck). He's definitely threatening the arkham henchman played by David Dastamalchian, but he would never have shot because it would always be heads. It wasn't until he turned into Two Face and one side of the coin was symbolically scorched that it truly became 50/50 per flip.
Love the analysis about Officer Ramirez,alot of people really miss how and why she signaled her own betrayal 👁️__👁️
Awesome analysis, thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us!
Not only did Ramirez mention it in the beginning of the movie but when Gordon is in the car with Reese, Bruce sends him a text with a list of officers who have a relative in the hospital. In my latest watch of the movie, i just noticed that Ramirez's name was on the list!
The "back-pack" is actually a second configuration for his cape. He uses the electrostatic memory system to reshape the cape into a "back-pack" shape, this was originally done because they were concerned the cape would get sucked under the rear wheel of the Bat Pod. But thanks to the beautiful custom fabric made by the art department (ULTRA fine parachute silk that was then frocked with tiny fibers to give it a "velvet-like" texture), the cape billowed safely into the air with the slightest acceleration on the Bike, keeping it safely away from the rear wheel.
Great reaction and insight guys, thanks as always!
13:32 "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
My favorite quote🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
1:01:13 That scene did go wrong, the explosion didn't go off on queue, so Heath Ledger improvised the trigger malfunction, and the flinch was real when the explosion finally went off
Nope. This is a myth, look it up. The explosion was _always_ supposed to look like it failed, to give Heath plenty of time to walk away.
When I hear the phrase "chaos is fair". I interpret it as chaos doesn't matter who you are. Like death, it comes for us all and it doesn't discriminate.
The older gentleman the Joker grabs at the party is now retired Democractic senator Patrick Leahy. He's a comic book fan and a Batman superfan. He's appeared in multiple Batman movies and even wrote the preface for a couple of DC graphic novels (Batman and Green Arrow).
The way Michael Kane delivers the line "Some men just want to watch the world burn." gives me chills every time.
If your interested in the Joker's origin, I recommend you get your hands on the "Killing Joke" graphic novel. Absolute master piece. Better than the animated movie (although it's still OK).
I've watched that movie a 100 times. Never had I noticed that in the begining when the robbers are talking about the guy who planned the job sitting out and getting a slice, the joker is in the back sit looking out the window hahahah.
He was amongst them the entire time! Hearing how they badmouthed the boss 🤦♂️
I was waiting for this one. THIS is the one that is absolutely worth it.
Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight Trilogy set the standard so high that STILL nobody has topped it.
You know what I love about these movies but also scares me?
The way Nolan grounded this trilogy, I feel shit like this could actually happen. Like someone out there could become a Joker
Some fantastic storytelling! Everything we see, even the most unbelievable gadget from Batman’s arsenal still comes across as grounded in some reality here.
I believe the same philosophy applies to Batman, as Bruce explains in the private jet scene
Yeah, but it's unlikely to happen, especially in the United States where facial recognition technology and is superb, law enforcement response time is usually very quick and people record everything. The Joker would be caught within a week, max maybe a month if he's smart. In another country that's less developed though someone like him could exist a little bit longer.
@@controlman7490 Superb law enforcement response? Oh boy, you just snort the Koolaid as powder.
@@tenchravenIt's true. On average the response time from police in the US is very quick in comparison to some other countries. It's a fact we have some of the most organized law enforcement in the world. Someone like The Joker in this time period would almost certainly be caught. Pretty quickly actually.
The Lamborghini model that Bruce is driving is called "Murcielago," which is the Spanish word for Bat. Even his civilian car is a Batmobile. 😂
The “Rest assured, your money is SAFE”…leading into the Joker’s “Hahaha and I thought my jokes were bad” is a sincerely underrated line
Michael Cain as Alfred had a line to deliver as Joker comes out of elevator at Dent fund raiser but seeing Heath Ledger as Joker in person up close was so surreal that he froze and stepped back, Ledger kept going as if nothing and Nolan loved the take so much he left that one in movie.
Awesome reaction, guys! I am so glad you picked up on the way Gary Oldman's voice breaks when he says "I have to save Dent!" The sheer level of guilt his Commissioner Gordon is carrying around for what happened to Harvey is crushing him inside. It's one of my favourite line deliveries in the film and breaks my heart every time I watch the movie and hear that break in Oldman's voice. Heath Leger's performance in this movie is truly one for the ages, but I am always amazed at how great a performance Oldman delivers in this movie. Thanks for sharing your reaction!
Apparently, they did worry about the Cape catching the rear wheel. There was an idea for a backpack thing, but they just tested it with the cape, and it just worked perfectly much too there surprise 😅
No wonder! That would’ve been my first concern if I was the stunt coordinator! Glad it worked out and they kept the real thing😃
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Initially, I was infuriated when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker, fearing he would spoil the character. However, I couldn't have been more mistaken.
We’ve all been there with a specific casting announcement. We just have to let the performers do their thing and see what they come up with. Sometimes it doesn’t only work but it changes our perception of that character forever ❤️
Sorry to not comment about the reaction itself but DENISE YOUR HAIR LOOKS MAJESTIC. ❤
The amount of iconic lines that are born from this movie is actually INSANE 😂
"Why so serious?"
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
"You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are"
You and your friends are dead! Gets quoted by yaboyroshi a lot and me too 😂
Also don't forget.
"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."
"Some men just want to watch the world burn."
And numerous variations of basically any part of the ending monologue Gordon says.
Madness is like gravity, all it needs is a little push.
43:27 Cinema Wins actually has a hypothesis that Nolan's Joker is someone from a military branch, who became disillusioned with the real world after war, and decided to burn it all down and everyone and everything else with it.
So cool, and explains why he can use guns like RPG😂
51:52 Just so you know, after Ledger wasn't "feeling it" when they were acting the punches, he asked Christian Bale to actually hit him. You can see it in his (Bale's) eyes after the first punch, a little glimmer of "oh shit, I hit hard!" However, it was because of being actually hit that Ledger was able to dredge that psychotic, sociopathic laugh from the very bottom of his diaphragm, and it made Christopher Nolan's jaw drop so much that he forgot to call cut at the end of the scene for a few moments.
I love this trilogy and it’s a great companion piece seeing your reaction! You guys are really refreshing and awesome to watch along with! 😊 Keep watching fun films you two!
What a masterpiece of a movie, heath ledger and Christian bale did so good in this. Heath ledger is the best joker of all time imo, but it was so sad to hear that heath ledger died before the movie came out, this movie will always forever be in my heart.
The Joker didn't "set charges" in the precinct. The bomb was inside that man's belly with the phone trigger. The joker just needed to position himself in a safe spot before making the call...
RIP Heath, he made such a great Joker that i don't know anyone will be able to compete with. I will never get over that scene when he sticks the pencil in the dude's head. This movie is so dark and the story is so good. Thanks a bunch for doing a reaction on this. Can't wait for the next. Hope you all have an amazing day and keep on rocking 🤘
The thing about this Joker is that his insanity is so crystal sharp in it's focus. He's not illogical. He has a very clear world view, a clear sense of purpose and while he's incredibly hard to understand from the outside because all of that is so foreign to a "sane" person, it's all logically consistent and fits within the overall narrative that the Joker has constructed. He's "insane" in the fact that he doesn't behave like a "normal" person, but doesn't Batman? That's the Joker's entire point. He probably developed an extremely toxic, broken view of the world and spent a large portion of his life being outcast and ostracized for it (as seen in how he reacts to being called crazy at the mob boss meeting), but there's a consistent internal logic throughout it all. Then he sees the Batman acting "crazy" (behaving contrary to societal expectations) and being, in many ways, admired and lionized for it. He sees the inconsistency there, and it infuriates him, and he wants to expose how irrational, inconsistent, and selfish the world as a whole behaves.
In his world, he's not the crazy one, he's the only one who sees things the way they truly are.
A lot of people complain (probably reasonably) that it would be impossible for ANYONE to predict things the way the Joker does in this movie, as he seems to always be five steps ahead. I speculate that it's more likely that the just has multiple plans for multiple outcomes and always plays it off as expected. It's a form of extemporaneous chaos, and he's never truly surprised because he figured the outcome was plausible anyways, and then moves on to the next chain of decisions to figure out how things are likely to go next.
Also, in case nobody mentioned it, in the hospital scene with Harvey, when the Joker holds his pistol against his forehead, he's got his thumb held over the hammer of the revolver. This means that if Harvey pulled the trigger, nothing was going to happen. Even when the Joker appears to be giving up control of the situation, he keeps things in hand. Pun intended.
He is insane but not irrational. Not an uncommon situation. Edit: For example according to psychologist Kevin Dutton (who specializes in psychopathy) the top 3 careers of psychopaths are CEO, lawyer and media personality. BTW police officers are number 7.
I’m actually seeing a Hans Zimmer concert tonight. Hopefully he plays some of his work from The Dark Knight 😁
No way! We hope you have the best time ever! Can't wait to experience one of his concerts ❤️
@@OfficialMediaKnights by the way, the sky hook shown in the film is a real thing that was used by the CIA and other military branches decades ago. The issue was it was limited to clear areas (no trees or other obstructions) and on high up areas like the top of a hill. Even with the perfect place to use it, it could seriously mess a person up. It's use didn't last long.
I saw him a few weeks ago!! Hearing the dark knight suite was absolutely amazing!!
The part where the Joker is blowing up the hospital, and the explosives momentarily failing was not scripted. Since the actual explosives weren’t working right, Heath fidgeting with the remote was improvised.
I was about to mention this before i saw your comment.
1:28:48 this right here is an absolutely fantastic way of complimenting the quality of this film. The Dark Knight has stood above so many other movies, not even just super hero movies, due to this focus on the human element. Well put!
I remember seeing this in theaters on release day. The trailer didn’t give too much away and everyone was on pins and needles waiting to see the new Joker. Every scene towards the beginning with him felt painfully short, we wanted more! We were like, this is what we’ve been waiting for and we were soo not disappointed.
I grew up watching Heath as a heart throb in 10 Things I Hate About You and A Knights Tale and I could not wrap my brain around that being Heath. Still when I watch this movie I can’t believe it’s him. Truly so talented and I wish we could’ve seen him develop his career even more. His posthumous Oscar that his family accepted on his behalf was well deserved.
I love the”aha!” moment, where ppl discover Harvey’s coin is two-faced… and all implications that fact has had, throughout the course of the film, since his introduction… now that’s good writing and directing 😮😊
It's fantastic, because just like Dent uses the coin to create the illusion of impartiality and detachment despite rigging things in his favor, the Joker does exactly the same to him, pretending to be little more than a dog chasing a car while deliberately controlling every possible outcome.
That's sort of an overarching theme in the whole film: people consistently try to underplay their plans and preparation as a screen for accomplishing those very things.
@@M4TCH3SM4L0N3 I also focused on the fact that Harvey used the illusion of a “coin-flip morality”, so effectively after Gordon “dies” that even Batman thinks Harvey has gone over the edge but didn’t(flipping when interrogating Joker’s accomplice)… But only after it was too late did Batman realize that Harvey actually went over the edge(after Rachel), by simply taking the same “coin-flip morality”, literally, and making the illusion, real.
The scene at 29:30 was not scripted and she was legit scared of his performance, the glance was a glance to the director but he grabs her back into the moment and continues.
Don't forget it's also the first time EVERYBODY has seen ledger in that makeup.
Michael Caine was supposed to have a line when Joker walked in but the guy was shook af he froze
Been waiting for your recation to this trilogy again. You guys are my favourite reactors in UA-cam. You add so much depth to your videos it's honestly incredible. Keep up the good work.
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24:22 that jump scare gets everyone 😂
I'm a firm believer the Joker is a military veteran with PTSD, that jus lost it... his planning, execution, calm in chaos, his understandin of manual of arms with different weapons and ability to teach guys off the street drill and ceremony..... you'll never be able to convince me otherwise
Agreed! There’s a lot implied simply looking at how he handles certain situations “Do I look like a guy with a plan” he thrives when people make assumptions based on his look. Yes he looks “crazy” but he truly meant it when he said he was not and…he isn’t. He knows exactly what he’s doing and what the repercussions will be which makes it even more terrifying.
He did mention a "truck full of soldiers"
My guess is probably Green Beret, since elements of what his character does fit that mould so well. Potentially a weapons sergeant, considering his understanding of so many different kind of weapons. The training of civilians in unconventional warfare and tactics. His choice to operate with small teams.
@@OfficialMediaKnights The first rule of unconventional warfare is deception and deflection. The problem with characters like Bruce Wayne is that they give their enemies far too much information. I mean that's true of most people. Someone close to me who has served in the military always tells me "always provide truth but make it *a* truth, not *the* truth"" but the Joker is always playing two lies, one truth and he gives away so little in his manipulations. The other problem Bruce has is that the Joker knows everything about him, has the luxury of studying him, down to what kind of weapon would be needed to deal with an armoured vehicle like the tumbler. Bruce has no such luxury, that's he why he is always scrambling because a detective needs clues and Joker either has so many it's impossible to distinguish which is real. Or, he has none, down to probably learning how to make his own clothes.
I likewise have believed this for years. I've further had the idea that what if this Joker an alternate Martin Riggs from the Lethal Weapon Movies/Tv Show. Except instead of meeting his wife and becoming a cop, he continued down the emotionally unstable path he was on after whatever happened to him.
Just rewatched the trilogy this weekend. It's still a masterpiece. The 3rd one less so, but all are so flawlessly shot and dialog, acting, practical effects are still top. One thing that I realised on The Dark Knight this time was that Gordon's end dialog was so comic book but wouldn't have landed well on its own as it's a bit too cheesy maybe for a serious film but gets around it by making it be said to a kid, so it's as you would say it to a child. There is so much good dialogue and comic book content in these films yet they remain grown up. They are so cleverly done.
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This is one of all-time favorites. Heaths character owned the screen every time. The fact that even the "evil" of Gotham didn't even understand him was absolutely incredible. He certainly was in his own class of criminals. Out of all of the movie reaction channels, I look forward to yoursthe most. I love the real world experience in cinematography and writing that you both bring every time. It has reshaped how I view films in a good way. I can assess, critique, appreciate and enjoy every film and tv show with a new perspective. Thank you so much for your incredible content.
Heath ledger is such an amazing actor infact the scene when he holds Rachel was actually improvised by him and she was actually confused and scared. She was looking at the set for help
Apparently heath's joker character was so good that Michael Caine had forgotten his lines when he seen him in make-up
I love that the jump scare got both of you. Lol. Used to work at an Imax theater. Imax just brings another level of visuals. I always love you guys' views on movies. It's so cool to hear your perspectives.
Ahh that is so cool! Love the look of 70mm film and even their digital cameras look fantastic. Thank you! That really means a lot to us ❤️
If you'll notice, Bruce Wayne is driving the Lamborghini Murcielago in the daytime. Murcielago being the Italian word for Bat.
Alfred:" A long time ago, some friends and I were working for the local government...."
I love how Alfred tries to gloss over the fact that he was some kind of operative or spook, as a young man. "some friends and i,..." "working for the local government."
What's an Englishman doing in Burma, bribing local warlords with rubies and burning down whole forests to kill one rogue?
Joker licking his lips wasn't just a character quirk. The prosthetic makeup would come unstuck on his lips, so to avoid losing time to constant touch-ups, Heath licked to keep the edges adhered to his lips.
Heath Ledger performance is amazing in this movie. I had a similar feeling with Matthew McConaughey in his role in True Detective season 1. Two actors who were always trapped in the same romantic comedy movies acting as the "hot bad boy" who fall in love. They both wanted to take on a completely different role and show their immense talent. And then after their performance you realize that they were both seriously underrated actors at the time.
Good call on The Crow table meeting. Scene definitely inspired by it
Man coming back to this now makes you realize how wonderfully-written the Joker was. Yes he has monologues but you learn so much about him through actions - daredevil, almost suicidal panache, hiding in plain sight in the heist, the ransom scene, etc. Also, there is immense attention to detail to his character. He has a leg up on everyone, including Batman, because he understands who people operate and anticipates every response e.g. the bank robbers killing eachother, letting himself get caught then breaking out of jail by manipulating people. Even small details like him arming himself with the dogs because Batman had shown vulnerabilities against them and laying out nets to trap him in their skyscraper fight, the writers paid attention. Well done.
SIXTEEN YEARS AGO!? 😨 W-what!? 😳 HOW?! It couldn't have been that long ago...
2008 .. time really does fly i was 15 now am 31
that ending dialog between Gordon and his son about Batman as he escaped... powerful!
Denise your hair is so pretty🌠
The scene with Maggie and Heath always makes me giggle. The touch to the hair, the swagger, the relationship he had with her brother...
Bruce took the tele communications project knowing this situation might come. This is how he did that 😊
The Joker let us know the ferries scene was coming when talking about how people will eat each other when the chips are down, he literally tells batman "I'll show you."
First things first Ari & Denise your both awesome reactors mixing humour while giving detailed explanations of your likes & dislikes, sending big hugs from England 🏴
This is my all time favourite Batman movie, yes Ledger Joker is off the chart & he gives a mesmerising performance but the story, character arcs, drama, emotion & action all deliver in spades & the music score still gives me goosebumps.
The scene that always gets me is when Batman is beating up Joker in the interrogation room & he's just laughing & saying " You got nothing" that's scary because this Joker thrives on chaos.
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The thing about The Dark Knight is that it is a mob drama and a crime thriller which also happens to be a superhero movie as well.
Also, being a Nolan movie, you expect from it to be clever, and it absolutely delivers.
God, I love this movie. It shows that superhero movies don't need to also be silly popcorn flicks.
Nolan doesn't disappoint
Joker keeps licking his lips because the makeup doesn't stick well 😂 and that accidentally makes him even crazier
The part where he blew up the hospital, not all of the explosives went off at first. And that one sequence costed a lot of money, you really wanted to do one take. So he did that little improv, and it turned out amazing.
Still he is too overrated
@@Lighty-rn4nsMight be,
But he made the best superhero film ever.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 Nah, very debatable. There's still Watchmen,Constantine and Hellboy
@@Lighty-rn4ns None of those compare. Watchmen is overrated.
@@drafezard7315 Overrated? TDK us really overrated(Just like Nolan himself). Watchmen is more like underrated. Many people don't even know about the existence of this movie
59:55 I think that at the moment where he tells Dent about the truck load of soldiers getting blown up, that's it when he truly tells his origin story.
I really enjoyed The Dark Knight when it came out. I even dressed up as Batman that Halloween, and just a year later, Arkham Asylum (2009) was released, so it was a great time to be a DC fan. Looking back, though, there are aspects of the film that I was never too big on. For one, I feel like Gotham is visually the weakest in this film. Nolan turned the city into a more generic setting, allowing viewers to imagine Gotham as their own city. But to me, it simply wasn't Gotham City. It lacked the unique architecture, Gothic Revival & Art Deco. Coming across as Chicago with Gotham signs rather than it's own unique city.
I'm also not a fan of the new Batsuit introduced in this film. It looks overdesigned, and the iconic Bat symbol blends too much into the suit when it should stand out. I much prefer the Batman Begins suit. I’ve never really liked Bale’s portrayal of Batman either. It's like his voice gets worse with each film. While I love him as Bruce Wayne, I just never thought he was a good Batman.
And then there’s the Two-Face story arc. I feel like it was wasted, especially with his death. I would’ve kept him around for the sequel. One of the biggest aspects of Nolan's trilogy is its push to be “grounded,” which is fine, but I always felt like these films were too grounded. It just wasn’t for me, even though I still really enjoy The Dark Knight. The Batman (2022) fixed a lot of the problems I had with the Nolan trilogy, though it brought up some of its own issues as well. It seems like all the Batman films get some things right and others wrong. Unless you look at animation (Mask of the Phantasm comes to mind) I don’t think there’s ever been a perfect Batman film that truly embodies every aspect of the character.
Is The Dark Knight the best comic book film ever? Well, that depends on the person. Personally, I’d rather watch Spider-Verse, Guardians of the Galaxy, Dredd, or Mask of the Phantasm, to name a few, over The Dark Knight, but it’s still a damn good movie. The Dark Knight always felt like a comic book film that was, at times, ashamed of its own identity in certain areas. At least compared with Begins.
I love how each film in the trilogy has a theme. Begins/Fear, TDK/Chaos, & TDKR/Pain.
1:01:02 actually they did get it wrong. The hospital was supposed to blow up way bigger, but a malfunction occurred. Heath stayed in character tho and just fiddled with the controller and the rest of the explosion suddenly happened
Common internet urban myth. Nolan planned the pause, the scene was rehearsed endlessly before they shot it. Heath acted out exactly what Nolan envisioned, there was no improv in that scene.
@@ghostCW3 oh that I didn’t know thanks
@@Optical09 No problem. I thought the same thing for years myself, only found out the truth like a month ago.
I get chills every time I see Heath's performance
33:53 Mr. Reese "Mysteries" Easter Egg reference to the call sign of The Riddler.
Joker's intro of laughing like a maniac and then slamming a pencil through a dude's eye socket is the most brilliant villain introduction of all time.
Ahh heck yes! Great way to start my Friday off. This only gets me so excited for you to watch The Batman with Robert Pattinson!
Great film, every time I see the title I am reminded of the animated series with exactly the same title, which was very good too.
We absolutely loved The Batman and would love to cover that with our rewatch series! Hope y'all enjoy, and thank you so so much for the support ❤️
@@OfficialMediaKnights ...and I hope you know that now you have to finnish the trilogy, because the Dark Knight Rises is totally awesome.
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You should rewatch The Batman and jump into The Penguin after that. We're only a couple episodes in but it's been great so far and gives more characterization to that version of Gotham.
The beauty of this, according to some sites that i have read about "The Dark Knight", is that Heath read the comics, and not just any comics, but the comics that shows joker's insanity, cunningness and playfulness
as well as writing a seven-esque diary that says everything on how to think, act, and SMILE like THE JOKER
I like this kind of actors, but I am sad for them since for them, doing something like this, is craft
even though it can definitely, 100%, wreck a man's sanity
RIP for Heath, the most Joker of them all
I love hearing y’all’s over all thoughts. You definitely point out things that I notice but don’t know how to put into words. I love how yall go into depth about every aspect of this movie, and other reactions you do.
Heath Ledger will always be THE Joker to me. He did a fantastic job at playing this character.
I also agree that when this movie came out I didn’t fully understand it but re watching them now I actually comprehend everything that is going on and it makes me appreciate this trilogy even more.
This is so kind of you, we really appreciate your kindness and support!! Thank you!
Great re-reaction you two. I'm gen X and grew up on practical effects, shooting on location, stunt people, animatronics, and puppetry. I have friends who argue with me all of the time when I say practical effects are by FAR superior to CGI. Yes there are limitations how ever the texture and interaction of the actors is just believable because it's real. Much love and keep on keepin on J.
Interesting fact: the man that plays Gambol has multiple black belts. He’s a kick-ass fighter. You should watch his fight videos. His name is Michael Jai White
Indeed. He played the elite solider in Universal Soldier 2 and also he was in "Spawn".
Thank god you guys continued with this series cause this movie is in one of my top three favorite movies, no joke. The practicals, the freaking score, the acting especially on ledgers part, RIP to him, may God rest his soul. I just wanted to say two fun tidbits. With that scene at the party where Joker threatens Rachel, that was actually the first time all the actors and actresses saw ledger with his full makeup and going all out as the joker so the looks of fear from everyone, all completely real. Rachel's actress was actually not expecting him to grab her face like that. Secondly, when joker blew up the hospital and he stopped cause it seemed like the bomb wasn't working, the detonator that he had on set actually stopped working so that whole section was improv where he started to hit it and play around with it. When it worked, that little jump was completely real. I have no words for how much I love this movie and I'm so glad you guys watched it. Love you both ❤ and hopefully can't wait for the next one, The Dark Knight Rises 😎
That's one terrifying thumbnail.
Bat pod ejecting from the tumbler gets me hyped every time
Seeing at the premiere, everyone in the room went nuts!
The news article that he's partying with models on the yacht wasnt out of pettiness, its him creating an alibi for himself, cause he's gonna go do batman things
It’s absolutely an alibi! But it’s hard to believe out of all the things Bruce could’ve done he went away with the entire Russian ballet after Rachel and Harvey made a comment on having tickets to go see them the next week. He got two birds with one stone 😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights Well if your choice of alibis is limitless, why not choose the one you have fun with at first xD
"And here we go" Magnificent performance by Heath Ledger.
My favorite part of this movie has become that moment Joker puts the gun to head and lets Harvey flip his coin. the confidence or indifference he seems to have that he might die is sooo cool and interesting.
If you look closely the Joker is holding the hammer back, even if Harvey pulled the trigger the gun would not have fired.
It's almost a shame that Ledger's performance was so incredible because you don't even remember the other amazing performances! Whenever Aaron Eckhart yells as Dent/Two Face, I swear it takes my breath away and everything seems to fall silent for a moment. The way he gave such intensity to a few of the lines was incredible. I've seen it like 20 times and yet when he yells, "YOU CAN'T GIVE IN!", it still shocks me every time
This is not an ordinary movie. It is considered one of the greatest movies of all times! Teachers even use this movie in film schools to teach about cinematography, acting and composition. And Heat’s performance is one of the greatest of all times🔥😜
This movie never ceases to amaze me, it feels like watching an entire TV series with the amount of events and storylines and character arcs that Nolan manages to fit in. It's incredible.
Great reaction to Batman dark night guys🦇
Rip Heath Joker , Why so serious😅❤
My favorite part is a hospital scene, Everything becomes Chaos I'm an agent of chaos !!!
I feel for Harvey dent feelings at the end when he says about it's about what's fair he love Rachel so much. The joker Chose me🪙
Can't wait to see you guys react to Dark Knight rises soon
Heyy thanks for coming back!! Love this comment! TDKR is gonna be up very soon!
Yeah sad to loose him too early. My favourite line is, "do I really look like a guy with a plan"
@@davidareeves Yeah me too I like that line because it's all part of the plan.
@@OfficialMediaKnights That's great I can't wait🥰🦇
With that "LOOK AT ME" you get a glimpse of the actual monster lurking behind the clown.
He's A Watchful Protector... A Silent Guardian... The Dark Knight... One of the best endings in any superhero or any movie history in general
One of the nice little touches is how Christopher Nolan let Heath Ledger directed himself in that found footage with the faux Batman on the tape. Such an amazing movie, performance and reaction from ya'll! R.I.P Heath Ledger.
It’s been great experiencing these with you two! I’m not sure if you’re planning on doing The Dark Knight Rises, but after PLEASE do Matt Reeves’ The Batman. I don’t remember seeing a reaction for it from you guys and I know you loved the Planet of the Apes films
Thank you so so much for joining us on this, y'all have been amazing throughout this journey!
We did watch The Batman, but we would absolutely love to do a rewatch once we're done with this trilogy!! We are dying to rewatch it and share some of our thoughts and insights, and more importantly, hear what y'all have to say!!
Suggest watching Batman 89 Batman Returns Batman Forever Batman and Robin then watch the Batman
@@TheRaidernation33 ain’t nobody need to see Batman and Robin again….bat nipples and Clooney as Batman can’t save it.
Batman Forever is supremely underrated though
@@ChadB1988 it’s a good time if you watch it for what it is a throwback to the campy style of the Adam west show from the sixties
its always a pleasure to watch your reaction videos and hear your commentary, and the ways you guys give your fair assessment on a movie without completely trash talking it is great. The Dark Knight is a perfect evolution to Nolan's take on the caped crusader, does a great job introducing multiple villains without them stepping on each other's toes or trying to overshadow each other. the Joker can run wild in the background while giving Two-face time to develop and when they cross paths just wow! I really appreciated Nolan's more grounded approach to the Batman movies
I adore this movie. As you say. Heath Ledger did an amzing job playing the Joker, especially the interogation scene. It is said he prepared himself for the role locking himself to his apartment.
With the practical effects. Nolan did everything with practical effects that was possible. The only things were the cape on the Batpod, Harveys face and the helicopter crash. Everything else was practical. The construction of the Batpod was even "What parts of the Tumbler can we use to build something like that?" So every pat of the Batpod was built out of parts of the Tumbler.
I think the hospital didn't go as planned. One of the detonations went of late. The whole team was impressed that Heath didn't take a look back walking out of the detonation radius.
The hospital myth was debunked ages ago. The scene was specifically planned and rehearsed with the explosion delay. Everything happened as intended
@@Omne118 oh. Ok. Then I missed that
Loved the outro, thanks you. Now counting the days for Batman vs. Bane.
Whoa, almost 100 minutes? You know, when the reaction is as long as the movie, well, that's surely a movie reaction done right! And you guys have been knocking it out of the park with these movies and games. Awesome!
EDIT: "Imagine getting [the hospital explosion scene] wrong", well, they did... when the explosions stop, Heath Ledger is actually improvising with the trigger and when they start again and start running that's the acting resuming. Such a fantastic scene that.
Edit 2: And dang it, my 1st edit is apparently a myth and was planned all along. Oh, the internet!
It’s a myth about the hospital scene. It was planned and rehearsed with the delay
@@Omne118 Really? (googles) dang it, you are right. Thank you!
I love that the Joker’s crew in the beginning of this film also voice his crew in Batman: Arkham Asylum