Great video Christian. I'd pick the 6072. It had something extra. Beautiful singing too. Totally off topic... your video production was great. Can you give any details on that? Maybe a whole video on your setup would be super fun too.
Thanks man! Sure I've been thinking about it. It's been quite the journey because I didn't know anything about cameras before I started out haha! I use a Panasonic S5, which is the best Bang for buck full frame camera on the market I'd say! They released a new version now which took leaps forward in auto-focus which has been their Akilles heal for years.
This one seems very smooth on the top, when you get louder it never gets peaky or “hard” sounding , it stay soft and open. I think this could work well with a loud singer who belts. I wonder how much compression you used during your mixed version? This sounds somewhat similar to the uptown version, maybe with the uptown being a bit more forward and round. Do you recall if you processed this mic the same way as you did the other 251s you compared? Meaning same compressors , similar levels etc, outside of eq? I think I’d like this mic but with more forwardness, maybe compression would help with that
Amazing video, Christian, as always. Love the song choice. One of my old time favorites songs. I liked the 6072 the best if I had to choose one, but it’s amazing how the sound can change. Question: why are your thoughts between this mic and the Upton? Cheers. Keep it up man.
Yeah the 6072 was magical! Personally I wasn't super impressed by the Upton, I've tried two different ones too! Way to uneven in the lowmids, you know it couldn't hold the lowmids together when you sang in a lower octave and then going up in the vocal range. The NLP is definitely the best option sub 4k. It's all subjective though when it comes to these highend mics. Personally I really like the GAP, a bit laid back in the midrange but big and bold
@@Christian_svedin When you say GAP, you mean the ELA M251 or the GA-251 Mkii? Did you get to try the Flea 251 yet? Interested to know what you think. I am looking to buy a LCD mic and I am looking at the Flea 47/Flea 47 Next, but I really like the openness of the 251....
@@Christian_svedin by the way, was the recording of this song all real instruments? Very nice indeed. To this day George Michael's version is still my favorite, but this one is right up there ;-)
I know this is an old video, but I have a question. When recording at that distance (like in the initial vocal performance) I always wonder, what's the typical/standard way of gain staging? Assuming you use a VU Meter, do you still aim for a maximun average of 0 (at -18 head room) or it is a different process that it is followed?
I really don't care about levels to much. As long as it isn't clipping you should be fine. I'm usually sing along a pre-recorded track on my videos so don't take to much notice on the distance. I usually have a healthy 30cm distance or so. Good luck
i no all mics have better of something or more Or less bottom or top but between this and the golden age Sony for strictly vocal recorded what would you prefer the lpn sounded smooth and clean thanks
I do really like the GA8000, super clean and smooth. A 251 is more saturated, and have a bit more lowmids. Hard to say it's very subjective I'm afraid 🙈
Hey! I haven't used the Flea and I've only used a Vintage one. The NLP is very upfront and has a quite saturated sound which is nice. It's all subjective when we talk quality microphones I'm afraid but the NLP is pretty much half of the other boutique mics. Good luck ✌️
A 251 is more saturated. The GA8000 is super clean and balanced. From memory the chandler Redd was more midfocused with nice lowmid bloom. Thanks for watching 🙏
Dude, your production quality and expertise is amazing! You deserve many more subs.
What a great voice, as well!
Thanks man 🙏
Those microphones sound awesome! Why don't you make a comparison between different brands and models of ELA-M 251 style microphones?
I definitely bought one from David. You got to be one of the best if not the best engineer that demos gear.
Congrats 🎉 David is a great guy and thanks for the kind words 🙏
I love your Demos too much! Did you get the one with the Haun or Josephson Capsule?
Your demos are very informative but I watch mostly just to hear you sing.
Thank you, Christian! Super Content!
6072 on vocals and ECC81 on guitar, but if i had to choose one, the 6072.
What a great version of that song Christian. Awesome mics..
Great video Christian. I'd pick the 6072. It had something extra. Beautiful singing too. Totally off topic... your video production was great. Can you give any details on that? Maybe a whole video on your setup would be super fun too.
Thanks man! Sure I've been thinking about it. It's been quite the journey because I didn't know anything about cameras before I started out haha! I use a Panasonic S5, which is the best Bang for buck full frame camera on the market I'd say! They released a new version now which took leaps forward in auto-focus which has been their Akilles heal for years.
This one seems very smooth on the top, when you get louder it never gets peaky or “hard” sounding , it stay soft and open.
I think this could work well with a loud singer who belts. I wonder how much compression you used during your mixed version?
This sounds somewhat similar to the uptown version, maybe with the uptown being a bit more forward and round.
Do you recall if you processed this mic the same way as you did the other 251s you compared? Meaning same compressors , similar levels etc, outside of eq?
I think I’d like this mic but with more forwardness, maybe compression would help with that
So good!
ELAM 251 6072 vs GAP 251, which one is better for vocal recording?
How does this compare to the GAP 251?
Amazing video, Christian, as always. Love the song choice. One of my old time favorites songs. I liked the 6072 the best if I had to choose one, but it’s amazing how the sound can change. Question: why are your thoughts between this mic and the Upton? Cheers. Keep it up man.
Yeah the 6072 was magical! Personally I wasn't super impressed by the Upton, I've tried two different ones too! Way to uneven in the lowmids, you know it couldn't hold the lowmids together when you sang in a lower octave and then going up in the vocal range. The NLP is definitely the best option sub 4k. It's all subjective though when it comes to these highend mics. Personally I really like the GAP, a bit laid back in the midrange but big and bold
@@Christian_svedin When you say GAP, you mean the ELA M251 or the GA-251 Mkii? Did you get to try the Flea 251 yet? Interested to know what you think. I am looking to buy a LCD mic and I am looking at the Flea 47/Flea 47 Next, but I really like the openness of the 251....
@@Christian_svedin by the way, was the recording of this song all real instruments? Very nice indeed. To this day George Michael's version is still my favorite, but this one is right up there ;-)
@@jsasa5668 the GAP Elam251. No Flea, I've reached out to them with no luck so far! ✌️
I know this is an old video, but I have a question.
When recording at that distance (like in the initial vocal performance) I always wonder, what's the typical/standard way of gain staging?
Assuming you use a VU Meter, do you still aim for a maximun average of 0 (at -18 head room) or it is a different process that it is followed?
I really don't care about levels to much. As long as it isn't clipping you should be fine. I'm usually sing along a pre-recorded track on my videos so don't take to much notice on the distance. I usually have a healthy 30cm distance or so. Good luck
thanks
Where do you find the prices? I looked everywhere on google lol 😂
i no all mics have better of something or more
Or less bottom or top but between this and the golden age Sony for strictly vocal recorded what would you prefer the lpn sounded smooth and clean thanks
I do really like the GA8000, super clean and smooth. A 251 is more saturated, and have a bit more lowmids. Hard to say it's very subjective I'm afraid 🙈
Hi Christian , How would you compare these to the Original or the Flea ?
Hey! I haven't used the Flea and I've only used a Vintage one. The NLP is very upfront and has a quite saturated sound which is nice. It's all subjective when we talk quality microphones I'm afraid but the NLP is pretty much half of the other boutique mics. Good luck ✌️
@@Christian_svedin thanks Dude , Best Wishes
How would you say these compare to the ga8000 and Chandler red. Seems to have more too end
A 251 is more saturated. The GA8000 is super clean and balanced. From memory the chandler Redd was more midfocused with nice lowmid bloom. Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Christian_svedin No problem. I use the ga 8000 , looking for an addition or upgrade in the near future. The chandler redd is definitely on my radar
@@Lanatemusic you'd only move sideways if you get something else then the GA8000. I'd keep it and add something different 👍 more is more 😁
Have you had a chance to compare to Flea 251? Any thoughts?
Thanks.
@@Micnif hey, no. I've reached out to Flea but no luck so far!