@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Loved this class. Star Trek Online has some of the most intriguing and imaginative Starfleet starships. Glad you posted this class.
When I look at this ship. My thoughts go holly ship!!!!!! This it a ship to not mess with if this ships problems were worked out. Looks like a war ship mentality but wasn't executed well. Good video.
Starfleet Command: “The Constitution class is showing its age and we’ve lost a few of them already. This is not good, it makes us look bad to the Federation member worlds and the Galaxy at large. Let’s build a ship in the Constitution design style that’s stronger and more efficient.” San Francisco Fleet Yards: “May we present the Federation class dreadnaught. A class that will be ready for anything the Galaxy throws at it. We can wipe the smug looks off the Klingons, Romulans, Gorn, and Tholians.” Starfleet Admiralty: “Well that’s impressive, it certainly seems stronger than the Constitution. However this ship is more geared to being a Battleship, not an explorer. What we need is something that while yes can handle itself better in emergencies than the Constitution class, it must also be an able Explorer: faster, more powerful, more efficient, better shields, excellent scientific facilities.” Fleet Yards: “Admirals, Federation council allow us to present, the Atlas. I think you’ll find it’ll meet your needs. A new explorer, more powerful yet more efficient than the Constitution and Federation classes. Command: “Okay looks good, let’s order 12 of them.” Command: “What the hell is wrong with this ship, the phasers deplete faster than the Constitution and Federation classes. The shields are much weaker, the power output is too strong for this thing to handle. To make things worse, the Altas was nearly destroyed due to the warp core and its inability to maintain speeds higher than warp 9. Explain yourselves!” Fleetyards: “Um well sir, it’s like you said the core is just too damned strong for the atlas to handle. We designed the phasers to be channeled through the main engines. They should have been able to recharge as quickly or better than the Constitution and Federation. We’ll go back and try again.” Admiralty: “Oh you’ll do better than that, you’ll build no more of those death traps. You’ll quickly downgrade the existing ships and work to create something better, that TRUELY is better. What about the Miranda class? Why not use some of the advancements of that to make a Constitution refit?” SF Naval Yards: “We can do that, the Enterprise is due back from her five year mission before too long.” Bottom line, when you overthink your designs they become overblown and over complicated. As Scotty would say, “The more they Overthink the plumbing the easier it is the stop up the drain.”
While it is mostly headcanon and fanfiction, I appreciate that you don't just go "oh yeah starfleet built this ship and it was the bestest". Not every ship design works out and that can add depth to the universe. It reminds me of how some mechs in Battletech exist to show players how *not* to build a mech, such as the Charger, or to fill out a roster rather than actually be effective, such as the Hoplite. Not everything in a universe has to be amazing, and can be notable and beloved for being bad, a poor fit, or a concept that just doesn't work in practice. And that's entirely okay.
You get it! Yes, to think that Starfleet is always perfect just isnt logical ;) And of course, Star Trek has always been a mirror for present day... :)
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed on the Atlas class starship's and the purpose of the design and its primary purpose and functions and abilities and so forth indeed!,👌.
A very interesting narrative for this ship; certainly echos issues that real world military hardware encounter, especially when money and government contracts are involved, with the final product being lackluster at best and downright broken at worst.
Yes, that's exactly what I was going for... After all, to think that Starfleet is always perfect just isnt logical ;) And of course, Star Trek has always been a mirror for present day... :)
I love this class... mostly because it is an adaptation of the MAGNIFICIENT Concorde class (my favorite STO ship)... I d'on't remember you doing a video on it... if you ever get to it, I'll be SO VERY happy to watch it (even if I watch all your videos anyways ;-) )
The Atlas Class Prototype Dreadnought is still my favorite beta canon TOS ship design, but then again I will always put the TOS and TMP era aesthetic styles at the top of my list of Star Trek design styles.
Also, if we combine different bits of head canon from other trek games as well, it could be said that when the Federation class and Atlas classes failed, it paved the way for another federation design to fill the battleship role. The Proxima class from Star Trek Legacy. Third time’s the charm, eh?
I love this. I have the Atlas Class on STO, and I have no issues with her... The USS Diesel has so many modern game upgrades... Weapons, consoles... She's a Superior Ship.
Imagine if one of these ships got to the point of having its space frame built at Yard 39 right before the systems Sun decided to become a bit testy. What advancements and fixes could a 25th century Starfleet Corp of Engineers impart to this unlucky Duck...
I was thinking about that while watching the video. Imagine if one of these bad boys were to be "found" at yard 39...🤔 A modern day SCE might be able to fix up its problems and show the true potential for this design.
Outstanding narrative. This happened in history as well. Designs were put into production straight off the drawing board only to fail. The Germans built an entire production run of the ME 210 only to find out it was areodynamicly unstable and worthless as a fighter plane.
Atlas is a beautiful design that should be "revamped" and used in future stories . Has Starfleet ever tried a larger Miranda class ship ? I envision a Miranda but with a Stargazer style thicker saucer section with a rectangular frame replacing the silly roll bar . A Miranda could carry up to four small Defiant style attack ships attached to that frame and be a self contained task force ! In case you haven't noticed I'm a huge fan of the Miranda !
As soon as I saw this ship in ST:O I knew I needed it! Even though I like the Federation class dreadnought for pure nostalgia, it is admittedly pretty ugly. The Atlas is just way more aesthetically pleasing in every way
I didn't like TOS ships design. Until I see Atlas. I love it, it is gorgeous and beautiful. I got it in STO, and I do not agree with your story (your data banks have too be contamineted by Romulan virus or something!). My Atlas works perfectly... ok, ok after lunch my crew need one year too polish it, but now...works great (but secondary warp core can't work on more then 5,6% of it's nominal power), no problem with warp speeds (up to Warp 11,36), over all 109,3% better then Constitution!
The atlas is slick, but i'd have rather had a updated federation class in STO.. nice video. I like beta/head canon on here, its good.. aligns with some of my own head canon.. also read the book "Dreadnought!" its like 300 pages ish and its worth the read.
That's the hidden joke. All the blueprints show the Bridge on top, and everyone thinks that's where it is, but that is actually just an IMAX movie theater. The actual Bridge is on the *bottom* of the primary hull, with the photon banks and phaser emitters around it. That way all the enemy ships are trying to get at the movie theater thinking its the Bridge. A few TOS episodes hint, as Kirk says "Bridge" but the lit up panel shows the turbolift is moving *down* instead of up.
The ship itself looks pretty awesome. However with almost every new system based on the duel warp core and failing, it's an unfortunate situation. Well as they say in life, you win some you lose some. Great narrative though.
This parallels the story of the USS Tritium project, as told in the 1979 "Star Trek - Space Flight Chronology" book. The Tritium class was intended to supercede the Horizon & Daedalus classes, during the latter half of the 22nd century. However, the theorised high warp speeds that the coaxial tri-nacelle generated warp field, was expected to deliver, didn't occur. Instead, massive warp field eddies were created and the USS Tritium only managed a top velocity of Warp Factor 3 (27c).
Great video, and it makes sense in the timeline. However, you could have put a little positive spin on it for one. If you look at the designs it seems the step between Constitution III [enterprise TMP] and the Excelsior class and some of the designs do carry over like the thickened neck and secondary hull. But, bigger isn't always better. Take the Scott Class Cruisers from STO, they look familiar to this design. Perhaps if given proper technical help they'd have been a supplement to the Constitution Class as a CNC ship for fleet actions, or exploring space. In a somewhat historical sense the Constitution Class [Iowa Class] while the Atlas Class could've worked as like the Montana class was supposed to, but was never built.
Not everything in life ends up Happy Snappy... A positive spin would cheapen the reality and the story, making it in to Fan Service! They tried, it failed!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Okay, I get that the Atlas class was a tale of warning. You did say that there was some carry over to the next ship, the Excelsior. There is a couple of ships in the Starfleet that the admiralty just scoffed at. For the TOS era, the Anton Class but by the time of TMP, the evolution becomes the Miranda and future workhorse of the fleet. The Consulate Class during the Ambassador's era actually did better than its the counterpart that it was modeled after. And so forth, the big problem is how to convey that to the people. One of the best design stories that you could do in the future is the Excelsior beyond the TMP era, and into the TNG era where the story would not be so good. Another tale of warning, being too dependent on a frame for too long. It's one of Starfleet's major problems. The Connie for 40 years, Excelsior for 120, while the Ambassadors only had 20 years, and the Miranda for 160 years.
The story certainly fits the greater narrative of your other Truth and Myth videos and works to why the class might not be common. Still, I do enjoy the TOS style design of the Atlas and it is a shame how meta the console it comes with is in STO because another TOS-era alt or two would not mind also having one to wander around in.
You aught to look unto the Ticonderoga and its Refit as seen in the Star Trek Legacy video game. Legacy was the first game that all 5 captains ( at time of production in the mid 2000s) were voiced by their actors.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I was nuts for that game! Still has online support, I downloaded a boatload of molded ships and fan designs... but I was a sucker for the Ticonderoga!
I liked the Atlas class the moment I saw it. It looked like so much more of a warship than the Constitution or Miranda or the later Constellation and Excelsior, and yet somehow it ended up being classed as a "Dreadnought-Carrier" which is weird. At least in STO if equipped well it can hold it's own, it's a tough ship that can take a beating and deliver it even if for some reason it's 'fighter' complement is out of action.
Sometimes the ideas in the minds of designers surpass the ability of available technology to make it happen. I believe this combined with politics doomed the Atlas class to its eventual fate. Just imagine what a powerful ship this could've been given the time to get it right.
I love my sto Atlas Dreadnought. Is it the most powerful ship in the game? No, but it is no slouch, that's for sure. It is by far my favorite ship in my roster, though. The design aesthetic is the epitome of Trek, in my humble opinion. And it fits in nicely with my current Captain's Log game that I've set in the Four Year's War.
Hmm! Technically speaking. This would make it a Heavy Battlecruiser. One step below the Dreadnought class! Serving as a science vessel as well as a fighting vessel.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios - Hmm! It was a Etsel. Yes, you could be right. It had some theoretical positives. But several bucket loads of negatives. The twin warp engines mounted one over each other. Probably cancelled each other out. The intended outcome was theoretically interesting but structure perhaps, was it's undoing. In galactic terms it was a clunker!
Warp factor 10 would have seriously stressed the shields and bulkheads, so giving this ship warp factor 12 would’ve scattered the remains of the ship across several light years. Even Scotty would never had signed for on this upgrade.
I saw a photo of this ship, from Star Trek online. They had christened it the USS Uhura, NCC 1932, as a tribute to Nichelle Nichols on the day she died. Are you saying that STO chose a defunct class for the USS Uhura? YIKES!
Dont be ridiculous! My intro to the video already explains everything... Besides, I don't see anywhere where STO named one of these starships the Uhura, but even if they did, Canon has already named a Reliant Class Vessel from STO the Uhura!
I appreciate your cannon, but it will not be mine. The design of the Atlas Class makes so much more since than the thin necked, thin nacelle struts of the Federation and Constitution Classes. It's absolutely my favorite starship design in Trek history. Blessings, friend!
That's ok, there's always at least 1 person that you can't please as a content creator! Im just glad the vast majority agrees with it! :) Take care, and keep trekkin'!
@@RonHammers Well that's all up to you, as it's not a canon design, it really doesnt matter tbh as it doesn't exist in Trek :) As fans we're all entitled to love or hate a design :) But I am very glad you enjoy my content (mostly) LOL :)
After flying the Atlas in STO, this video does the class such a dishonor as ingame it's easyally one of the top 20 ships ingame, top 10 for tank ships.
Seems to me that's a design they could have fixed. (Like, just throttling back the secondary warp power core seems like it ought to have worked, if they couldn't have just beefed up those other power systems. )
As the intro explains, it is not connected to STO at all... STO, though I love it, is unrealistic when it comes to Starship Portrayals and Performance... This story takes an interesting design, and makes it far more realistic with the caveat that not all technologies designed are going to work with everything being sunshine and rainbows!
Uhhhh sorry, but I think you are incorrect, as by the Time the episide "Cause and Effect" came out, the model and its Registry had been used and changed multiple times... So please state your source!
Although the Atlas Class failed. It remained in the data banks for years. Until The technology caught up and improved. Finding the designs one day a starship designer was inspired by them and they designed the Chimera Class.
Im sorry, but the Atlas Class story ends here... Put simply, it was a flawed design that was burried and forgotten aside from the lessons it taught Starfleet... And had no influence on any future designs!
As i recall from star trek tmp techially enterpise new warp core failed till mr spock came aboard to prgram a new rebalance to warp core intermix power field. Even with atlas failer so bad satrfleet would of never sent then to do back water work the frames were too weak to even handle back water work in safer sectors. How i would of fix atlas would of been swtcg to 1 warp core maybe have secondary core as back up. Drop 2 of the 4 nacelles i faviour constitution 2 warp nacelles even if atlas were still less quick then consitution 2 they cpuld still go out ther exploring or aiding the connie 2 fleet with jobs
so the big problem is fixable by replacing the two warp drives with one standard config, maybe a wee bit bigger the constitution. i like the design, a short refit meh away from awesome
Sounds like the Atlas class was Starfleet's beginnings into multiple redundancies in it's ship design. As far as it's "failures", sounds like a forbearer of the DS9's Defiant class. Over-powered to the point of it wanting to tear itself apart, but still having teeth.
Not even close to the Defiant to be honest, as that ship wasnt on the verge of a warp core breach, and none of the teeth in the Atlas Class worked... It was more of an Edsel!
I am surprised that somw space junkie after wolf 359 did not thought to take a look at atlas class thingking how cool would thos ship be with defiant class warp core and reforced hual amd phaser upgrades
@@dustind3960 Those starship were FAR to out of date to be considered for anything! Spaceframes, Plating and Technology would mean that a Failed Ship like the Atlas would need to be completely unbuilt in order to be rebuilt to standards... It would be a waste of time, and it's failure would make it a non issue!
I wouldnt say that at all... The Defiant was a little and maneuverable powerhouse... The Atlas Class is a HUGE, intended to be powerhouse, that simply wasnt...
That isnt really true either... As if you're working on something that you KNOW might fail, hit's you very differently then working on something you KNOW will succeed!
The Atlas in an interesting concept but it's proof that what looks goid in theory. Doesn't necessarily work in practice. For example, based on what Sisko discovered when he built a replica of a Bajoran Solar Sail ship, it looked like Solar Sails would be a potential means of FtL travel (at least at low warp speed). The reality is that what worked for a low mass ship in a region with significant Tachyon Eddies didn't work on larger ships as the size of the sails needed to propel them at Warp Speed made them extremely vulnerable to damage. It's also why small vessels like shuttles and runabouts DON'T require Dilithium as with the size of the Warp Core, magnetic confinement is able to keep the reaction stable. Larger ships with their far larger Warp Cores DO need Dilithium to moderate the Matter-Antimatter reaction. It's the same principle as modern Nuclear Reactors. Low power research reactors can be operated with a simple pool style cooling system. Commercial reactors OTOH, require far more elaborate cooling systems to prevent a meltdown scenario.
Yeah, I was wondering why you did not mention the fact that the Stellar Cartography data files on the Atlas were unmatched by any other class until many years later. 😜
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What an absolutely gorgeous ship. That baby could've been a real powerhouse if the higher-ups hadn't botched the whole project so badly.
I know right? :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Loved this class. Star Trek Online has some of the most intriguing and imaginative Starfleet starships. Glad you posted this class.
Yeah, that's too bad. It's a really good starship on Star Trek Online.
When I look at this ship. My thoughts go holly ship!!!!!! This it a ship to not mess with if this ships problems were worked out. Looks like a war ship mentality but wasn't executed well. Good video.
It seems that the ship was just ahead of its time. It’s features seem to be a cross between the Excelsior and the Sovereign. Great video as always 🖖
Thank you so much Linda!
Starfleet Command: “The Constitution class is showing its age and we’ve lost a few of them already. This is not good, it makes us look bad to the Federation member worlds and the Galaxy at large. Let’s build a ship in the Constitution design style that’s stronger and more efficient.”
San Francisco Fleet Yards: “May we present the Federation class dreadnaught. A class that will be ready for anything the Galaxy throws at it. We can wipe the smug looks off the Klingons, Romulans, Gorn, and Tholians.”
Starfleet Admiralty: “Well that’s impressive, it certainly seems stronger than the Constitution. However this ship is more geared to being a Battleship, not an explorer. What we need is something that while yes can handle itself better in emergencies than the Constitution class, it must also be an able Explorer: faster, more powerful, more efficient, better shields, excellent scientific facilities.”
Fleet Yards: “Admirals, Federation council allow us to present, the Atlas. I think you’ll find it’ll meet your needs. A new explorer, more powerful yet more efficient than the Constitution and Federation classes.
Command: “Okay looks good, let’s order 12 of them.”
Command: “What the hell is wrong with this ship, the phasers deplete faster than the Constitution and Federation classes. The shields are much weaker, the power output is too strong for this thing to handle. To make things worse, the Altas was nearly destroyed due to the warp core and its inability to maintain speeds higher than warp 9. Explain yourselves!”
Fleetyards: “Um well sir, it’s like you said the core is just too damned strong for the atlas to handle. We designed the phasers to be channeled through the main engines. They should have been able to recharge as quickly or better than the Constitution and Federation. We’ll go back and try again.”
Admiralty: “Oh you’ll do better than that, you’ll build no more of those death traps. You’ll quickly downgrade the existing ships and work to create something better, that TRUELY is better. What about the Miranda class? Why not use some of the advancements of that to make a Constitution refit?”
SF Naval Yards: “We can do that, the Enterprise is due back from her five year mission before too long.”
Bottom line, when you overthink your designs they become overblown and over complicated. As Scotty would say, “The more they Overthink the plumbing the easier it is the stop up the drain.”
While it is mostly headcanon and fanfiction, I appreciate that you don't just go "oh yeah starfleet built this ship and it was the bestest". Not every ship design works out and that can add depth to the universe.
It reminds me of how some mechs in Battletech exist to show players how *not* to build a mech, such as the Charger, or to fill out a roster rather than actually be effective, such as the Hoplite.
Not everything in a universe has to be amazing, and can be notable and beloved for being bad, a poor fit, or a concept that just doesn't work in practice. And that's entirely okay.
You get it! Yes, to think that Starfleet is always perfect just isnt logical ;) And of course, Star Trek has always been a mirror for present day... :)
Id love to see Videos about the Gemini Class and the Chimera/Manticore Classes and what narrative you come up with
Dont worry, they are coming :)
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed on the Atlas class starship's and the purpose of the design and its primary purpose and functions and abilities and so forth indeed!,👌.
Glad you liked it! Thank you SO much :)
Love the Atlas! My TOS character in STO uses it and sweet mamba jamba it's a beast of a ship.
Aw, no love for the Atlas? She's one of my favorites in STO, lol.
I actually like most things about the class, but to me, it simply never made any sense...
Would like to see a showdown between an Atlas and Federation class (if the Atlas had been a success). Both are gorgeous designs too.
Those combined nacelles look absolutely fire, more ships need to be like it ngl.
A very interesting narrative for this ship; certainly echos issues that real world military hardware encounter, especially when money and government contracts are involved, with the final product being lackluster at best and downright broken at worst.
Yes, that's exactly what I was going for... After all, to think that Starfleet is always perfect just isnt logical ;) And of course, Star Trek has always been a mirror for present day... :)
And I love how coherent Tri‘s stories are! 👍🏻
I love this class... mostly because it is an adaptation of the MAGNIFICIENT Concorde class (my favorite STO ship)... I d'on't remember you doing a video on it... if you ever get to it, I'll be SO VERY happy to watch it (even if I watch all your videos anyways ;-) )
Fantastic narrative for a fantastic looking ship. It's too bad that it failed so completely. Thanks for another great video.
Glad you enjoyed it Jeff :)
The Atlas Class Prototype Dreadnought is still my favorite beta canon TOS ship design, but then again I will always put the TOS and TMP era aesthetic styles at the top of my list of Star Trek design styles.
Also, if we combine different bits of head canon from other trek games as well, it could be said that when the Federation class and Atlas classes failed, it paved the way for another federation design to fill the battleship role. The Proxima class from Star Trek Legacy. Third time’s the charm, eh?
I love this. I have the Atlas Class on STO, and I have no issues with her... The USS Diesel has so many modern game upgrades... Weapons, consoles... She's a Superior Ship.
Imagine if one of these ships got to the point of having its space frame built at Yard 39 right before the systems Sun decided to become a bit testy. What advancements and fixes could a 25th century Starfleet Corp of Engineers impart to this unlucky Duck...
I was thinking about that while watching the video. Imagine if one of these bad boys were to be "found" at yard 39...🤔 A modern day SCE might be able to fix up its problems and show the true potential for this design.
He very nice Video. Like the The Atlas Class.
Thank you very much! :)
Outstanding narrative. This happened in history as well. Designs were put into production straight off the drawing board only to fail. The Germans built an entire production run of the ME 210 only to find out it was areodynamicly unstable and worthless as a fighter plane.
A better video AND a better story!
Thank you so much Doug!~
Awesome video! The head cannon makes me sad because I like the ship but it makes sense and as you say, its Star Trek Fun.
I love this design. This just jumped into my top 5 Starfleet vessels 🙂
The Atlas was still a cool looking ship .
Of course it is... I dont make these types of videos as a slight against the design, but rather to enrich the expanded universe!
Atlas is a beautiful design that should be "revamped" and used in future stories . Has Starfleet ever tried a larger Miranda class ship ? I envision a Miranda but with a Stargazer style thicker saucer section with a rectangular frame replacing the silly roll bar . A Miranda could carry up to four small Defiant style attack ships attached to that frame and be a self contained task force ! In case you haven't noticed I'm a huge fan of the Miranda !
Have you played Star Trek online recently? I think the MIranda has now become the most kitbashable ship class on the game.
Awesome video keep up the great work
I just noticed that the atlas looks a LOT like the Paradiso class and her variants, like a 23c version.
Great video bud!
As soon as I saw this ship in ST:O I knew I needed it! Even though I like the Federation class dreadnought for pure nostalgia, it is admittedly pretty ugly. The Atlas is just way more aesthetically pleasing in every way
I didn't like TOS ships design. Until I see Atlas. I love it, it is gorgeous and beautiful. I got it in STO, and I do not agree with your story (your data banks have too be contamineted by Romulan virus or something!).
My Atlas works perfectly... ok, ok after lunch my crew need one year too polish it, but now...works great (but secondary warp core can't work on more then 5,6% of it's nominal power), no problem with warp speeds (up to Warp 11,36), over all 109,3% better then Constitution!
Yes! I have this ship in STO it's perfect!
I was recently wondering why Starfleet never built ships with multiple warp cores. I hadn't considered that too much power would be an issue.
That's what Im here for, to offer explanations for the unexplainable ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios We thank you for your service =)
Lol Thank you! Lol
Wasn't the NX class refit a dual warp core design?
Yes it was, but it was a special case where the factors that made the Atlas Class fail, actually worked in it's favor!
Thank you Lucy I Love you ❤️ for saving Star Trek
What I really love. Is how this story kind of mirrors the British tank built for WW2 but designed by WW1 veterans. The TOG.
The Atlas Class was a cautionary warning... the Galaxy Class was a cushionary warning.
Yes, Yes!
:)
The atlas is slick, but i'd have rather had a updated federation class in STO.. nice video. I like beta/head canon on here, its good.. aligns with some of my own head canon.. also read the book "Dreadnought!" its like 300 pages ish and its worth the read.
One of my favorite TOS ships, not even just from STO.
PSA: if you want to build a dedicated dreadnought, the bridge goes as deep INTO the hull as possible, NOT on top of it!
LOL
That's the hidden joke. All the blueprints show the Bridge on top, and everyone thinks that's where it is, but that is actually just an IMAX movie theater. The actual Bridge is on the *bottom* of the primary hull, with the photon banks and phaser emitters around it. That way all the enemy ships are trying to get at the movie theater thinking its the Bridge.
A few TOS episodes hint, as Kirk says "Bridge" but the lit up panel shows the turbolift is moving *down* instead of up.
Ahhhh, my baby in STO until I got my hands on the legendary Miranda variant. Solid boat, would recommend
Oh gosh the Atlas class looks nice but the 4 warp nacelles...
Yes, not a fan... LOL
I love that your stories make beta and alfa canon connect more smoothly.
I love it!
😊
I wouldn't mind having one. A go between a Heavy Cruiser and a Dreadnought.
Ah, the Edsel of starships... surprised starfleet didn't open dealerships specifically for the Atlas before it even launched! 😉
I love my Atlas in STO.
What happened to the 32 Century story of the JamesT Kirk, Constitution, and Matthew Decker. I really liked those stories.
Man, Starfleet really dropped the ball on this one. This was very beautiful and powerful starship.
The ship itself looks pretty awesome. However with almost every new system based on the duel warp core and failing, it's an unfortunate situation. Well as they say in life, you win some you lose some. Great narrative though.
Can someone tell me the name of this song being played in the background?
It's good to hear that Starfleet needs an occasional snap back
Saucer looks like one from the Chicago class model
when u take into acount the worms from tng arived around this time make me think it was sabotaged
This parallels the story of the USS Tritium project, as told in the 1979 "Star Trek - Space Flight Chronology" book. The Tritium class was intended to supercede the Horizon & Daedalus classes, during the latter half of the 22nd century. However, the theorised high warp speeds that the coaxial tri-nacelle generated warp field, was expected to deliver, didn't occur. Instead, massive warp field eddies were created and the USS Tritium only managed a top velocity of Warp Factor 3 (27c).
id love to see this desgn done with 24th centery tech
I’d like to see the atlas class in action
Great video, and it makes sense in the timeline. However, you could have put a little positive spin on it for one. If you look at the designs it seems the step between Constitution III [enterprise TMP] and the Excelsior class and some of the designs do carry over like the thickened neck and secondary hull. But, bigger isn't always better. Take the Scott Class Cruisers from STO, they look familiar to this design. Perhaps if given proper technical help they'd have been a supplement to the Constitution Class as a CNC ship for fleet actions, or exploring space. In a somewhat historical sense the Constitution Class [Iowa Class] while the Atlas Class could've worked as like the Montana class was supposed to, but was never built.
Not everything in life ends up Happy Snappy... A positive spin would cheapen the reality and the story, making it in to Fan Service! They tried, it failed!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Okay, I get that the Atlas class was a tale of warning. You did say that there was some carry over to the next ship, the Excelsior. There is a couple of ships in the Starfleet that the admiralty just scoffed at. For the TOS era, the Anton Class but by the time of TMP, the evolution becomes the Miranda and future workhorse of the fleet. The Consulate Class during the Ambassador's era actually did better than its the counterpart that it was modeled after. And so forth, the big problem is how to convey that to the people. One of the best design stories that you could do in the future is the Excelsior beyond the TMP era, and into the TNG era where the story would not be so good. Another tale of warning, being too dependent on a frame for too long. It's one of Starfleet's major problems. The Connie for 40 years, Excelsior for 120, while the Ambassadors only had 20 years, and the Miranda for 160 years.
The story certainly fits the greater narrative of your other Truth and Myth videos and works to why the class might not be common. Still, I do enjoy the TOS style design of the Atlas and it is a shame how meta the console it comes with is in STO because another TOS-era alt or two would not mind also having one to wander around in.
I like the design, just it never really made sense to me!
You aught to look unto the Ticonderoga and its Refit as seen in the Star Trek Legacy video game. Legacy was the first game that all 5 captains ( at time of production in the mid 2000s) were voiced by their actors.
I know, I played the game when it came out originally ;) :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I was nuts for that game! Still has online support, I downloaded a boatload of molded ships and fan designs... but I was a sucker for the Ticonderoga!
I liked the Atlas class the moment I saw it. It looked like so much more of a warship than the Constitution or Miranda or the later Constellation and Excelsior, and yet somehow it ended up being classed as a "Dreadnought-Carrier" which is weird. At least in STO if equipped well it can hold it's own, it's a tough ship that can take a beating and deliver it even if for some reason it's 'fighter' complement is out of action.
Sometimes the ideas in the minds of designers surpass the ability of available technology to make it happen. I believe this combined with politics doomed the Atlas class to its eventual fate. Just imagine what a powerful ship this could've been given the time to get it right.
You definitely get it :)
Phalanx class starship please.
I love my sto Atlas Dreadnought. Is it the most powerful ship in the game? No, but it is no slouch, that's for sure. It is by far my favorite ship in my roster, though. The design aesthetic is the epitome of Trek, in my humble opinion. And it fits in nicely with my current Captain's Log game that I've set in the Four Year's War.
I am SO happy that it works for you! Of course the rest of the multiverse, is another story 😜
Hmm! Technically speaking. This would make it a Heavy Battlecruiser. One step below the Dreadnought class! Serving as a science vessel as well as a fighting vessel.
Hmmmm! Not in the future, and not in this timeline! And dont split hairs, it isnt attractive ;) :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios - Hmm! It was a Etsel. Yes, you could be right. It had some theoretical positives. But several bucket loads of negatives. The twin warp engines mounted one over each other. Probably cancelled each other out. The intended outcome was theoretically interesting but structure perhaps, was it's undoing. In galactic terms it was a clunker!
Is it weird how I want to see a story, were the crew of one of this starship were able to make it work without the downgrade
Warp factor 10 would have seriously stressed the shields and bulkheads, so giving this ship warp factor 12 would’ve scattered the remains of the ship across several light years. Even Scotty would never had signed for on this upgrade.
Not as it was designed!
I saw a photo of this ship, from Star Trek online. They had christened it the USS Uhura, NCC 1932, as a tribute to Nichelle Nichols on the day she died. Are you saying that STO chose a defunct class for the USS Uhura? YIKES!
Dont be ridiculous!
My intro to the video already explains everything... Besides, I don't see anywhere where STO named one of these starships the Uhura, but even if they did, Canon has already named a Reliant Class Vessel from STO the Uhura!
The STO TOS designs are beautiful and its too bad this ship couldn't get the love it deserves,
Awwwwwwwwwww :(
I appreciate your cannon, but it will not be mine. The design of the Atlas Class makes so much more since than the thin necked, thin nacelle struts of the Federation and Constitution Classes. It's absolutely my favorite starship design in Trek history. Blessings, friend!
That's ok, there's always at least 1 person that you can't please as a content creator! Im just glad the vast majority agrees with it! :) Take care, and keep trekkin'!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Don't mistake me, I love your videos!
@@RonHammers Well that's all up to you, as it's not a canon design, it really doesnt matter tbh as it doesn't exist in Trek :) As fans we're all entitled to love or hate a design :) But I am very glad you enjoy my content (mostly) LOL :)
Still prefer the proxima class as the experimental TOS dreadnought. However the atlas is still one of my favorite ships in star trek online.
To me, NCC 1900 belongs to the USS Albatross from the fan film "Chasing the Infinite Sky"
Sadly though, Beta Canon always cancels out Fan Fiction!
After flying the Atlas in STO, this video does the class such a dishonor as ingame it's easyally one of the top 20 ships ingame, top 10 for tank ships.
In YOUR opinion, not the majorities... ;)
It's a best TOS t6 Star trek online star ship
Seems to me that's a design they could have fixed. (Like, just throttling back the secondary warp power core seems like it ought to have worked, if they couldn't have just beefed up those other power systems. )
Except they couldn't and didnt... Sometimes, things just dont work no matter what you do!
The only reason I'm not fond of your headcannon is that I have one of these ships in STO and it's an excellent ship for PVE *or* PVP.
As the intro explains, it is not connected to STO at all... STO, though I love it, is unrealistic when it comes to Starship Portrayals and Performance... This story takes an interesting design, and makes it far more realistic with the caveat that not all technologies designed are going to work with everything being sunshine and rainbows!
Did you know that the USS Bozeman model from tng still had the Reliants registry number
Uhhhh sorry, but I think you are incorrect, as by the Time the episide "Cause and Effect" came out, the model and its Registry had been used and changed multiple times... So please state your source!
Still waiting on that source!
Alright, Ill have to delete this comment shortly for false information, given that NO source has been given!
Although the Atlas Class failed. It remained in the data banks for years. Until The technology caught up and improved. Finding the designs one day a starship designer was inspired by them and they designed the Chimera Class.
Im sorry, but the Atlas Class story ends here... Put simply, it was a flawed design that was burried and forgotten aside from the lessons it taught Starfleet... And had no influence on any future designs!
Bet a TMP refit would look amazing.
Why did starfleet not tried upgrading at least 1 atless class ship to consituion 2 mirenda class tech
Because it was a complete failure!
As i recall from star trek tmp techially enterpise new warp core failed till mr spock came aboard to prgram a new rebalance to warp core intermix power field. Even with atlas failer so bad satrfleet would of never sent then to do back water work the frames were too weak to even handle back water work in safer sectors. How i would of fix atlas would of been swtcg to 1 warp core maybe have secondary core as back up. Drop 2 of the 4 nacelles i faviour constitution 2 warp nacelles even if atlas were still less quick then consitution 2 they cpuld still go out ther exploring or aiding the connie 2 fleet with jobs
The core didnt fail, it needed adjustments, so you are remembering incorrectly... The flaws with the Atlas Class could NOT be fixed!
so the big problem is fixable by replacing the two warp drives with one standard config, maybe a wee bit bigger the constitution. i like the design, a short refit meh away from awesome
That doesnt fix the problem at all, as then, it still wouldn't have the power/ specs as it was intended... Making it an even bigger failure!
Sounds like the Atlas class was Starfleet's beginnings into multiple redundancies in it's ship design.
As far as it's "failures", sounds like a forbearer of the DS9's Defiant class. Over-powered to the point of it wanting to tear itself apart, but still having teeth.
Not even close to the Defiant to be honest, as that ship wasnt on the verge of a warp core breach, and none of the teeth in the Atlas Class worked... It was more of an Edsel!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Then again, the Defiant did not have two warp cores either. Either way, both ships were over-powered for their time.
I am surprised that somw space junkie after wolf 359 did not thought to take a look at atlas class thingking how cool would thos ship be with defiant class warp core and reforced hual amd phaser upgrades
@@dustind3960 Those starship were FAR to out of date to be considered for anything! Spaceframes, Plating and Technology would mean that a Failed Ship like the Atlas would need to be completely unbuilt in order to be rebuilt to standards... It would be a waste of time, and it's failure would make it a non issue!
I think the Atlas could have worked, just needed more work. But technology marched past it.
Sometimes, things just never work no matter how hard you try!
The atlas was the original defiant class
I wouldnt say that at all... The Defiant was a little and maneuverable powerhouse... The Atlas Class is a HUGE, intended to be powerhouse, that simply wasnt...
Yet Another FAILURE?
Can Starfleet Not Build Any Successful Designs?
The Neck on the Connie has, unfortunately, always been laughable. I ❤ 1701-A
The biggest flaw of the Atlas Class was also the hardest one to properly address- it sucked.
I want to be captain of the Atlas Class USS Titicaca
So the great experiment before the great experiment. Almost back to back botches.
Almost, but truth is though Transwarp Failed, that was more of an expected outcome... The Atlas Class was expected to succeed! But didn't...
A fail is still a failure doesn't matter if was made to work or fail.
That isnt really true either... As if you're working on something that you KNOW might fail, hit's you very differently then working on something you KNOW will succeed!
It just reminds me of what I learned about the Ford Edsel or Yugo.
The Atlas in an interesting concept but it's proof that what looks goid in theory. Doesn't necessarily work in practice.
For example, based on what Sisko discovered when he built a replica of a Bajoran Solar Sail ship, it looked like Solar Sails would be a potential means of FtL travel (at least at low warp speed). The reality is that what worked for a low mass ship in a region with significant Tachyon Eddies didn't work on larger ships as the size of the sails needed to propel them at Warp Speed made them extremely vulnerable to damage. It's also why small vessels like shuttles and runabouts DON'T require Dilithium as with the size of the Warp Core, magnetic confinement is able to keep the reaction stable. Larger ships with their far larger Warp Cores DO need Dilithium to moderate the Matter-Antimatter reaction. It's the same principle as modern Nuclear Reactors. Low power research reactors can be operated with a simple pool style cooling system. Commercial reactors OTOH, require far more elaborate cooling systems to prevent a meltdown scenario.
Handy class if you want to find somewhere......
Ba doom Tssss
Yeah, I was wondering why you did not mention the fact that the Stellar Cartography data files on the Atlas were unmatched by any other class until many years later. 😜