2018 Aprilia RSV4 RF Vs. Ducati Panigale V4 S - Part 1: Track
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2018
- We teased you recently with a dyno shootout between the Aprilia RSV4 RF and the Ducati Panigale V4 S, with the Ducati blowing the doors off the less powerful - and smaller displacing - Aprilia to the tune of 187 hp for the Panigale and 168 hp for the RSV4. This set the stage for our track shootout between the two Italians nicely, as on paper, anyway, the Ducati seemingly has the Aprilia’s number. A bigger engine clearly gives it a power advantage, while 20 pounds less mass on the official MO scales and electronic Öhlins suspension prevails over the RSV4’s extra heft and manual Öhlins bits. But what does that all translate to once the tire warmers come off and fast lap times need to be set?
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Very happy to arrive in the comments and see Aprilia supporters because I honestly didn't expect them with this new Ducati. RSV4 FTW
The RSV4s are such dope track weapons. On my third Ducati but I swapped for a friend’s priller on a track day and it was just so easy to go fast with. V4s are the best sounding sport engines too, full stop.
GREAT video guys. I loved your analysis of the dynamics of the two bikes. Keep up the good work.
What a brilliant video! Slightly more riding shots vs. garage talk is still my preference (& no chewing gum please), but what an inspiring thing you just made. Truly well done, thank you!
The Ducati is like the hot and crazy one night stand with that chick from the club. One hell of a night for sure, but you probably aren't gonna be able to keep up that lifestyle every day. The Aprilia is the girl you actually want to wake up to the next morning, the girl you can appreciate for everything she is, and who brings the best out in you.
RSV4 best waifu
The thing is, even the Aprillia is the type of wife that goes bungee jumping with you, and pushes you out of the plane while sky diving :D.
She still brings out the crazy in you.
Most Peoples wives are a Goldwing or a BMW R1200 GS :D
Which wives are you on. Only in machines will you find consistency.
With that logic I suppose the CBR is the librarian wife until you realize it's a liter bike and she has more than enough to make you work just as much as the club one night stand.
mmmm => i've seen this comment before a few months ago ;-)
it is still a good , might i even say a classic comment .
but i hope your the same guy who said it and not a coppy cat because you need to pay royalties for it , hahahahhaa ;-D
Daniel Kemnitz I’ll tame that hot chick from the club..
Aprillia has had years of refining so not surprised it's better. I'll come back to the Ducati in 2-3 updates...
Great vid guys!
Wow, excellent review! Thanks guys
I already have the RSV4, was thinking about getting the new Ducati v4, thanks for this comparison.
Great comparison guys! I’ve really enjoyed this video, you give your honest opinion and that’s rare nowadays coming out from magazines. I just can’t wait for the next Aprilia RSV !
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, and yes, you're hearing our raw and honest reviews each time.
Aprilia has been refining and refining the same design for 10 years now. Makes sense it’s that much on point. The Panigale sounds like...a Panigale. They have always been beasts to handle, and I like that. I think with the Panigale, it has improved a ton for street riding. Looking forward to that review. They DO need to slap cruise control on it, though!
I think this was a really fantastic review guys. Very well done. It sounds like the Aprilia is much more consistent and probably faster for the average track rider where the Ducati has an insane engine and might be a bit more out of control. The question I always ask myself as an enthusiast is which bike is more fun and would you want to see in your garage at the end of the day? For me the sex appeal of the Ducati is just too much to resist. haha
Yes sir! And just think this is the FIRST Panigale V4S! Just wait until the next few generations!
Jaret Campisi Your feed must be inundated with Ducati videos.
Really appreciate the reply, Jaret. Thanks! You've pretty much summed up our opinions. Ha! Personally, I wouldn't mind either one in my garage. :) Your bike looks great, btw!
Very much agree. Sex appeal is a big deal for buyers when performance is so close. I think Panigale just needs more seat time and tweaking. I found that I love my V4S more and more as the time and track days go by. Some things were not to my liking at the beginning but with time and some suspension adjustments this bike came to me. I also ride 17 Tuono daily and can fully appreciate the differences. The engine, technology and sex appeal is what sold me V4S, plus having Tuono and RSV4 would be kinda silly =). Great review.
Its wierd the 44 teeth guys say the exact opposite, the rsv4 requires a better rider to get the most out of it
I met Troy this past Monday at a Cali-Track days event in Buttonwillow as he was testing these bikes. What a cool dude and great rider. Troy, thank you for helping me out with the Body Position class and then doing on track instruction with our groups. Hope to see you again. Cali-track days holds events at Buttonwillow and Thunderhill.
Good to meet you, and glad you learned something at Buttonwillow. Hopefully we cross paths again.
I enjoyed your review , both awesome machines.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have no interest in either bikes, but this is one of the best MC videos I've seen in years. A+ gentlemen.
I'd use that 4 thousand uprading the suspension on my 08 Fireblade and spend the 20 odd thousand left over on hookers and booze :)
Bender approves...don't forget the Black Jack.
Dont forget the charlie
crimzikk 20 grand might not be enough! ;)
Lol best way to go about it
I'd buy both then to celebrate go and spend $20k hookers, booze and coke.
Amazing video thanks guys
I groaned when I saw this video was over 24 minutes long, but you captivated me the whole way through. That was the best motorcycle-related video I have seen in a long time. Great job and congratulations! I might pick the Ducati because in the DFW-area the Aprilia dealer network is not great, and the BMW-Ducati-Triumph dealer near me is thriving. Frankly, with my skill level and lack of track experience, I have no business on either of these bikes. PS - Yes, I'm tone-deaf on the technical issues related to the sound and video. I tend to focus on the substance.
Thanks for watching all the way through. :)
Loved the honest opinions. I think Troy is a really humble and intelligent person.
If I owned a Ducati, you guys made me proud. I own aprilia RSV4 RF LE #14...
1st sold aprilia says...
and I cannot be happier!
Thanks for your honest report.
Whoaaa please do review.. any way we could see that baby?
Great job Troy honest review as always
I'd go with the RSV4 anyway, thanks for the 24 min. talking :D great video
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I'd love to hear what suspension "fix" Shane Turpin would recommend for the Panigale V4S. You guys mentioned that the chassis on the Duc was a bit "hinged", but Shane said for a track bike he would go with the Panigale and "fix" the suspension. Was the "instability" of the Duc due to the chassis or the suspension or some combo of both??
Did a group ride with a friend who's got the new Duc V4 (I ride a 2013 RSV4) and I got to put a good 20 miles or so on it in the twisties and I was both impressed and unimpressed. I was impressed by how fun it is and how fast it *feels*, the only bike I've ever ridden that felt more exciting was my old 1098R. The visceral sensation is incredible. But I was really unimpressed by how small of a performance difference there is between it and even my '13, especially with the Duc's price tag. We were neck and neck regardless of which bike we were on.
I need to try out a few Aprilia motorcycles... I've been finding it hard to get past the styling, which seems to be straight out of the 1990s.
Great video guys, and rightly said, you can never go wrong with either of those (plus the other great liter class bikes - S1000RR, R1M, CBR, GSX, ZX10R). The difference is marginal. Almost all the publications last year had a different winner in this class. It all comes down to personal taste, budget and preference.
Cheers!
I always love Troy videos, he just seems so humble/relatable. Also, awesome vid! I'll never own either, but it's cool to see you guys flog em around a track haha
Oh man, what a compliment. Thanks!
Drag race, braking test, lap times, lateral G test, just some idea’s for future comparisons
I just got the 2018 Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4 Factory.....it’s a beast. Love it! Ducati nice as well
I like the looks of the Aprillia more. I think in a few years the Ducati will get updated and tweaked and adress its weaker areas. If I had to buy an Italian race bike. It would be an MV augusta F3 800 RC Limited edition. Its gorgeous!
How will Ducati do now with the new RSV4 1100 in 2019....same litter size. I can’t wait to see a comparison
Shot mostly at Utah Motorsports Campus, Shane's home track. It's a fun track and I've ridden 2 up with Shane on a freakin' Ducati Multistrada and we were passing guys right and left. Mad skills.
I Love Ducati💓😍
What Dainese model/type suit does Shane has. it's looking mighty stunning.
I like how you guys filmed some parts of this video at button willow race way. I always go there
Aprilia 4 Eva! Caint wait to see what the 2019 1100cc RSV4 brings 😈
AC Taylor Aprilia 4 Eva for the second place losers, always taking home the scraps because they couldn’t take home and Fuck the pram queen.
RSV4 is more refined and stable, the Ducati is more powerful but wild and loose - you have that spot on, I have an RSV4 RF & have ridden the Ducati. the 4K difference buys an Akrapovic tail pipe that removes the CAT & flapper valve and adds a few HP Plus Lithium battery to same more weight, and still have enough left over for a couple sets of tyres and a few track days !
Let’s see how good the Ducati gets after 2 years of recalls and developments 😉 and the new Aprilia will be out then too!
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Which one would be the best beginner bike for scooting around the city and hitting the liquor store?
Brilliant bikes and they look fantastic.
enjoyed the video!
Rsv4 still has the better sound. Rsv4 any day of the week.
The Aprilia is a true V4
Desmo Dromico I wouldn’t really say that
I’ve owned Ducati and Aprilia
Different bikes for different likes
Pros and cons on both
@Desmo Dromico mv agusta= ferrari
When will the ducati v4 on the aprilia chassis happen by a private garage?
When will motorcycles Ever Stop getting more amazing! 👍
when they start having electric engines
Amazing video. Thank to help me with making good decision guys! :D
Was that The Ridge?! Wish I knew you guys were filming up here in Washington
Looks like you're at different tracks ... .one is the Ridge in WA state for sure ... which was the other ????
Wasn't the Desmo a production V4?
It takes a special team to have 2 sick bikes, and still bore me to death with the video.
Finally got this video
Great video! Aprilia is my pick. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
whats wrong with the color in the video the duc looks like its been sitting in the sun for 10yrs and has faded
Looks like wax hasn't been buffed
Awesome DCT
I have them both 2017 Aprilia RSV4 and 2018 Ducati v4s AWESOME
Which one would you like to own Ducati v4s or Aprilia?
Every Ducati I have ever had (and I have had all of them) were set up like absolute garbage out of the crate. But they had the components to get dialed in really nice. A little spring change here, a little geometry change there, and you're ready to go bonkers.
Great review! I do wish there was a segment where your average intermediate group track day guy has his say. The average joe part of the review for the average skill level of people who will actually buy these bikes.
for me it doesn't matter what bike you choice, the important things is where you comfortable to ride and satisfied for your self
Great review. I wish scott Russel joined in, though
Love that amazing Aprilia
Great review troy. I have met you a couple of times with 650ib when you work for that other company. Glad to see you're doing motorcycle reviews again. if you want to see a bike that's hard to ride but is very rewarding if you get it right the 1299 is definitely a handful I did a back to back track comparison not nearly at your guyses level with my new V4 and my 1299 back to back and I thought the V4 was confidence-inspiring and so much easier to ride than the 1299.
5UP which one would you prefer in your opinion
Hey 5UP, I remember you! Thanks for the compliment. I actually recently rode the V4 and 1299. Biggest difference was just the crazy surge in power high in the revs after the 1299 signs off. It was such a big difference. Looking forward to riding with you and Ib again!
Yes Troy i feel like the 1299 is a handful but very rewarding when you get it all right. The v4 is a major level of refinement which is more easy to get it right. Hopefully we ride again soon Troy.
I love bolt bikes, but the Ducati all day for me!
I bet you like BMWs too.
LOL jk I couldn't resist.
Bolt bikes? What in the fuck?
And they are in my opinion the 2 nicest bikes in terms of design on the market today. Frickin love the way the V4S and the RSV4 look...sleek and sexy Italian style
So glad Troy is back.
Aw, shucks. I'm blushing. :)
it would be so good to throw the RSV4 1100 in the mix now?
What track are they at? I thought this was a really good video.
Great comparison guys! And what a synopsis! Who would have thought the Aprilia would hold its own against the Pani V4. Two amazing bikes definitely.
Great review. Interesting there was no talk of how much extra power you could extract from the Aprilia for $4K. I suspect that might even the playing field a little on the straights!
True, although one way to look at it is that $4k of engine mods to the Aprilia could also make it less reliable. Any number of possibilities, really.
Well in EU the aprilia have been quicker EVERY time 😂😂 this track benfit POWER no doubt.
I'm on my second Tuono and both were reliable. My current is a 2017 Tuono and I've put over 11k trouble free miles on it in a year, Aprilia just makes awsome bikes!
SavageApeV4 until a day after warranty. Then sell that thing! Have to take a haircut but it’s still a superior choice.
"Jimminy Christmas!"
3:39
Where's part 2?
Oh shit Shane Turpin! Represent Trackstar / Rickdiculous! Was this done at Utah Motorsport Complex / Miller?
Mr. Troy r u Bataknese??
I wander how much ducati has improved since last year. They dominating superbikes this year cannot b soo bad the actual frame. It looks like it's winning not only with long straights.
Is Rsv4 faster than V4??
I would get rsv4rf and a full system exhaust for 4k bucks
How does the 18 R1M compare too? Thanks
No contest at all
Aprilia all day. RSV4 1100 and the RSV4 RR my machine of choice.
Love both these bikes 😍❤️ #RSV4 #PANIGALEV4 💓❤️❤️
You know what Clint Eastwood said opinions are like, and he is especially right on these recent comparisons of 2018. I myself have ridden these and more (34yrs) and am not a brand guy; am a straight shooting model focused guy. And no one should have any opinion . . . until they put a leg over the saddle, grip-and-rip the new Duck V4 (S+ preferably as the traction cntrl elct/Ohlins and +++ EVO flash esp w Akra!) and toss it hrd and exit a corner quickshifting full rippage!! No ad here, it WILL change your entire perspective on motorcycles evolution! | And to those waiting as if the next few years are a sound reason to wait, keep in mind this is a 2015 MotoGP motor tuned for the street/track day (as in 3yrs ago folks), and trust me that little could be better than this machine!!!! So much so, I bought a Speziale (yes my very first Duck!), and have been smil'in 1k mi a month (zero issues) on her as my own odometer rolls backwards to my two-stroke days!! 100% AMAZING!!!! 🤩👍🏻
So I was lucky enough to spend an entire day on the 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale and on the 2018 Aprilia RSV4 RF Limited Edition with Winglets... Both amazing bikes but for me hands down I much preferred the Aprilia, it was just much more user friendly and a more physically comfortable bike after a full day of riding. But that just my personal experience.
Good job guys try the new zx10rr with both of those bikes
Can anyone tell me why Ducati which has 1100cc competes with rest of the superbikes which has less than or around 1000cc??? Like this RF which has 999.6cc to be precise.
I'm a Ducati fan
1100cc RSV4 vs V4S please...
I'll say this much... I have had several Ducatis, and no other brand of motorcycle, I've owned, has had more recalls. Only a few weeks after taking delivery, my v4s received a letter in the mail. Ducati makes such a premium bike that it seems, to me, quality control gets placed on the back burner.
I like the Aprilia personally. I picked up a Tuono RR this year, and sometimes wish I got the RSV instead, but I ride street almost exclusively, so Tuono it is. Street Bike of the year awards again, makes me happier in my choice. I like to see the frame on a bike, and Aprilia does that. I think the Ducati took a step back on the looks of the V4 this time, just because of how weird the frame looks now.
Where do you even buy an Aprilia from?
How come they did not clarify that this review was shot at 2 different tracks?
The 2006 Ducati Desmosedici RR was the first Ducati with the V4 engine layout with a limited run of 1,500 street legal bikes.
Siahaan? you have Batak blood inside? nice..
The new displays on the Ducs are hard to beat...
I just had Superbikeunlimited build me a sick rsv4 rf . Will eat the v4s on any track. From the ttx gp rear shock to the fkr front forks, oz gas wheels, Aprilia race ECU, Akra full ti evo, thumb rear brake, 520 conversion, attack rearsets, etc etc. When you take advantage of the Aprilia chassis, theres no beating it. ( still less$ than a Speciale including new RF)
Yup an RSV4 with a race ECU and decent setup will completely spank the Duke V4
Cool motorcycle
The Aprilia RSV4 still looks better than the Ducati in my opinion, sounds better too. I'm really anxious to see when or if Aprilia will be roling out the RS 660 as a production bike soon. If they do, I might just go get my motorcycle endorsement a little sooner. Hopefully they'll put it into production for 2020 or 2021.
Holy crap, what potential for an awesome video and I couldn't watch past 2 minutes. Two of the most exciting bikes out there and you guys were able to make it boring. Run on commentary and sub par video production.
Interesting TRACK review. Many thanks. On the road though the Aprilia is way more user friendly...... doesn't burn your nads all the time. Chuck a £300-£400 end can on the Aprilia and you will get an extra 8odd horsepower.
Ducati is like a Ferrari.... over one lap its super quick. But boy do you have to concentrate 100% all of the time which is actually rather tedious and tiring.... not everyone can ride or wants to ride like Marc Marquez.
Aprilia a bit like a Porsche. Maybe very slightly slower over one lap, but you could do 10/20/30 laps all the same time and it won't want to throw you in a hedge all the time..... Check out what happened to Bautista in World Superbikes last year. Fastest bike, very fast rider and almost uncatchable for the first 5 or 6 races and he spent the rest of the year crashing!
If you aren't bothered about crashing your own bike maybe Ducati might just have the edge. But check out how much grip you will still have after 5-10 laps. Ducati will screw its tyres up. The Aprilia won't.
If you think the Aprilia RF is underpowered bear in mind its a 10year old design. Try the new 1100 Aprilia RSV Factory bike. It will walk away from any Duc V4S AND the R version!!!!
Truly an awesome piece of kit. Better in cold weather conditions and in the rain. Electronics are better and nobody ever mentions it but if you ever ride at night the Ducati,s lights are crap.
And here in the UK. Aprilia Dealers ( although there aren't that many ) are friendly, knowledgeable and helpful rather than Ducati Dealers who all seem to be up their own arses.
My summary as an ex Racer myself so hopefully some relevant views. Ducati is the bike for dare I say it poseurs. Aprilia more for the true enthusiast, thinking man,s bike.And an Aprilia with a decent aftermarket exhaust. Wow! Sounds just like a MotoGP bike.
Both great bikes. But for me save £10,000 and buy a 2nd hand RF . Unless you're a Superhero you will get a better all round bike. And much rarer to see them.
I would’ve liked a mention of availability of dealer support as that’s held me back from Aprilia in the past...it matters....
They talk about the chassis on the Duc being new as it having room to grow, to me that just means that when Aprilia updates their chassis it's totally game over.
There already is a new Aprilia, 1100cc, Brembo's best electronic suspension, PLUS that stable chassis, the best gets better.
I would take both, both are crazy man. But i think the rsv4 needs led headlights 😉
What's with the rolling shutter? Did you film the first segment with a mobile phone? Seriously distracting and nausea inducing when watching on a big screen. Part of the attraction to you channel is the 4K content but this video is much lower quality than normal. Doesn't even look like the footage was graded.
That's not rolling shutter, that's just bad compression, most cameras use cmos sensors and they all have a small amount of rolling shutter, that's when stuff goes at angles when something passes by the screen quickly or the camera pans left or right quickly (source : am a camera guy)
the stuff in this video is just skipping frames, it might be because of youtube's compression as well. I even saw square pixels in the new gopro 7 video
@googboog Sorry, mate - you're wrong. Rolling shutter also has a jelly effect when the camera is subjected to vibration. It is amplified when bad software stabilisation is applied in post. Clearly visible in the opening segment when the camera person is walking.
Compression will just add artifacts when the scene is changing too quickly as the bitrate cannot keep up. Will not add jelly effect.
(Source: also a camera guy - not that this means anything)
i thought you were talking about the frames skipping at 9:55, the shots of the bikes moving past the screen pretty fast. didnt see the jello effect in the beginning. peace
@@googboog definitely did not make it that far into this video