I was so hyped when the bronco was announced it was coming back but with low inventory and the dealer markup my excitment for this vehicle is dead. Thanks for another good video TfL 👍👍👍
Just be patient. I figure in 5 years I'll pick up a 2024 Bronco Raptor. Let the hype fade, the new model kinks get worked out, and the first owners take the depreciation hit. Ok, that last one may not be too much--Raptors hold their value pretty darn well.
I know a few people that canceled their Bronco orders and bought Gladiators instead due to delays. They're all glad they did. The Bronco looks sick, it's just nice to have a Wrangler and pickup all in one. I love my Gladiator! I might still purchase a Bronco down the road and have both...V6 only.
TFL, I like your content, it’s informative and useful. But, I wish you guys would film from the back seat when able, so as to show us more of the dashboard and steering wheel. It’s very useful for potential consumers. Especially for vehicles like this one that are of unconventional size.
Great review but I would like to hear more about what the Raptor is like to drive on the road. Is it noisy? How much tire roar and wind noise do you notice at 50mph, 60mph, 70-80mph (freeway speeds). Also, I know it will not be very fuel efficient, but what kind of fuel economy are you observing. I have driven a Sasquatch Bronco with the soft top on the road near Palm Springs out to Yucca Valley and at freeway speeds you definitely notice some tire and wind noise. Man, that Sasquatch Bronco is good off-road though. One of the best off-roaders out there for sure and way more capable than anything I need.
Once you get some saddle time on the bronco raptor you really start to appreciate it, in regards to the fenders because the vehicle is so different and it’s not like anything else on the road and sticks out like a sore thumb, but once you get used to it you really appreciate the fenders I think they look awesome!!! and performance wise it’s incredible, coming from a Jeep 392 and now owning the bronco raptor I was spoiled by the sound of the hemi & the power but in actuality the bronco raptor is much more fun and comfortable to drive it’s just a great all around vehicle, But it does attract a lot of attention which I’m not used to, And it’s extremely capable off-road. Also it tows very well and tracks down the highway/roadways perfectly. Set up the R button in sport mode with Baja exhaust and shut off track control in the vehicle comes to life!!!
The Bronco Raptor suspension and chassis improvements are what make it worth it. The engine is meh and Ford knows it. Needs the 3.5L Ecoboost or better. The 3.0L should be an option in all the Broncos instead of the 2.7.
What is it with all the drag racing in trucks or SUVs??? I bought my truck because it is versatile, comfortable, highly capable off-road, tows my 6x14, and makes for a great camping rig. It has good enough power to complete all those duties and be "fun", but I don't care one bit about 0-60 times. If I want to go fast I have motorcycles and a sub 5-second car. And these days even that "quick" car is no match for most of the family EVs coming out, so it REALLY makes the concept of quick ICE trucks that much more absurd. Please. Give us content that matters. Test this awesome rig on the trails or even on the Ike.
Do you know if there will be a bronco raptor hybrid? I just came back from adv/off road safari totaling 6718 miles in 2 weeks. Averaging 14.1 mpg on my 2020 f150. I paid close to $3500 in gas.
I remember someone saying that these Broncos achieve faster 0-60 times launching for 2nd gear due to the the way the turbo mapping keeps the vehicle in a higher turbo PSI for the duration of the acceleration test...IDK though..
Nice rig! But don't pay 1 cent mark up, the bubble will burst and thousands of people will be upside and hundreds will be repoed and a few years Vehicles will be sitting on lots everywhere!
Interesting video Tommy!! Great work!! Iv seen a few Broncos in my area..they seem to be drawn to the Gray colored models here.. Enjoy the day Tommy!!😃
Don't forget though, that all Bronco 2 and 4 doors have replaceable fenders front AND rear. So if you don't like the look of the fenders, sell them and buy some other fenders you do like.
The Bronco Raptor is too wide for trails because it’s made for the desert. So heavy it gets to 60 in a slow 6.8 seconds. Rare that you can’t get one unless you pay the 100k dealerships will demand. All that to get what? The Raptor name and some saddlebag fenders?
warmer then keystone in a ranger.. the fender flares match the roof?> prob give you no prob pulling a lock off a gate on the way to the black hills back roads
Same :) the closest thing the world gets to a diesel Bronco is the 3.0 L Power Stroke V6 turbo U704 Everest, it's also T6.2 based. If there's ever an Everest Raptor it will be quite interesting because there will be quite a lot of overlap with the Bronco in terms of capabilities. I suspect an Everest Raptor will be slightly below the Sasquash package in terms of off-road ability.
Well Palm Springs averages in the 110’s this time of year And Tommy did not look to be sweating so I’m guessing he had the air conditioning on. I would expect times to be a bit better
Good video but quick clarification: The non-Raptor Broncos have an analog Speedometer (not an analog tach), which is really dumb! I would have preferred a full digital display, but I could have at least understand having an analog tach. I’ll be looking to try to switch mine to a full digital display if/when it becomes available.
6.8 second 0-60? Seems a bit slow. Considering it’s a turbo engine, seems kind of slow even for Sedona’s 4,350’ elevation. Fender flares don’t look that great. Sounds somewhat anemic, but could just be how it come across on video. Honestly, now that I look at it, I don’t see much appealing over a well equipped Bronco. Definitely a niche product for the Baja folks, as opposed to the Raptor F150 which IMO has a wider appeal. Or maybe I’m just not the target market. Throw in the fact that you probably can’t get one for a couple of years anyway, I just don’t think the appeal will hold. I’m somewhat disappointed, I expected to be more excited about it.
@@kidmick809 Thanks for the update. I saw that video a while after posting this, but unfortunately saw the that 392 Wrangler smoke it which only reinforced that the Raptor Bronco is not for me. I'd either go well equipped Bronco or 392 Wrangler. Same reason I bought a TRX instead of a Raptor. Not to mention the buying process was much easier, transparent, and less costly ordering from RAM.
The Braptor is a disappointment in virtually every possible category. Even reservation holders can't get it. If you can find one, you are going to pay way over MSRP. Then if you get it, it's slower than a 2 door Jeep JL. Why would anyone buy this when you can go order a Rubicon 392 Wrangler and get it in 5 weeks for less than you'd pay for this slug of a truck?
Ordered one for msrp and wasn’t even a reservation holder. I have a sports car for going fast, this will be perfect for what I need especially if I can get it before it snows.
Great video Tommy we love this new bronco raptor couple of questions I know you always put it in sport mode for the 0 to 60 but wouldn’t it be faster in the Baja mode with all the nannies turned off and the exhaust in Baja mode please reply
Am disappointed that the interior in the production ready Bronco Raptor is not the same like the interior in the revealed Bronco Raptor with the leather on the dash & those cool colored seats. Almost like the Wrangler 392 that has plain black interior instead of that cool red interior like the 392 concept.
The Explorer ST platform is insane - especially after a (torque sensitive) ZFG tune. The amount of accessible power left in that 3.0 engine is incredible and this Raptor will be no different. Gains on dynos report to be over 150hp and 150 torque to the wheels for a daily driver. The only thing that limits this will be the transmission’s ability to handle torque. Not sure what the Raptor has but if its Ford’s 10r80 transmission then there’s no issue.
I agree turbo vechiles are detuned from the factory but I dont think I agree with just finding an extra 150hp/150trq with no aftermarket mods to increase parameters. With it being a Raptor I dont think it would be de tuned 🤷🏻♂️
@@slipknotron1626 yep, I failed to mention the addition of the Whipple intercooler and a tune to take advantage of it. What I’m getting at is that there’s a lot of unlocked potential left in the 3.0 Eco platform. I work with these vehicles daily and I’m not exaggerating when I say that reaching 600hp is easily attainable with just a few of these mods alone. Some are taking it further with upgraded turbos, fuel pumps, intakes and corn.
Every new vehicle seat sucks. I can see your back slanting back and your shoulder to base of the neck straight or even slanted forward. I hate the anti-whiplash design of every vehicle about 10 years old or newer. The back of your neck is slanted forward anytime your head isn’t against the headrest.
I'm really not impressed with the Bronco Raptor. It's too wide to fit into my garage spot or basically any parking lot. The capability improvements aren't that large compared to the price increase over a standard bronco badlands, and I think it looks much uglier with those fender flares.
F150 Raptors have been around for 12 years. Your own personal garage excepted, it's not that big a deal to live with. And these are a lot shorter than the F150.
While I love my fords I very likely won’t be buying another as the manufacturer is now forcing buyers to direct order. In turn discounts typically available usually resulted in prices below MSRP. Everything I’ve read indicates that you will not only pay MSRP but the dealers will add their costs ($$$$) on top. Many dealerships will fold resulting in even higher prices for new vehicles and specialized maintenance repair prices over and above. While I don’t like dealerships per say I do like having the ability to negotiate between them locally when shopping for a new vehicle. The Ford manufacturer is screwing nit only the dealer but the consumer. Ford - 🖕🏼
I was so hyped when the bronco was announced it was coming back but with low inventory and the dealer markup my excitment for this vehicle is dead. Thanks for another good video TfL 👍👍👍
Just be patient. I figure in 5 years I'll pick up a 2024 Bronco Raptor. Let the hype fade, the new model kinks get worked out, and the first owners take the depreciation hit. Ok, that last one may not be too much--Raptors hold their value pretty darn well.
thing is a dud
@@B86432 It’s okay we all have shit takes every once in a while
Yea the dealer is marking up $25k over MSRP…With a month wait or so. Or I can get a black diamond ordered not over MSRP but it’s a 9-12 mo wait
Same
Personally, I prefer the look of the Sasquash Bronco over the Raptor. The Raptor's fender flares look really weird.
Its definitely over the top.
It's like the designers took the afternoon off when Raptor fenders were discussed.
@@willb3018 agreed. They look like a super cheap aftermarket part.
Me too
It’s a lot better color matched than it used to be but overall I agree.
I know a few people that canceled their Bronco orders and bought Gladiators instead due to delays. They're all glad they did. The Bronco looks sick, it's just nice to have a Wrangler and pickup all in one. I love my Gladiator! I might still purchase a Bronco down the road and have both...V6 only.
1st... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE
TFL, I like your content, it’s informative and useful. But, I wish you guys would film from the back seat when able, so as to show us more of the dashboard and steering wheel. It’s very useful for potential consumers. Especially for vehicles like this one that are of unconventional size.
That's a good idea, then they can show the front seat as well instead of close-ups of the driver.
Redline reviews does this and it works great
Such great content - appreciate the real world comparison to the non-Raptor Bronco!
I'm more of a jdm guy, but I absolutely love this thing
Great review but I would like to hear more about what the Raptor is like to drive on the road. Is it noisy? How much tire roar and wind noise do you notice at 50mph, 60mph, 70-80mph (freeway speeds). Also, I know it will not be very fuel efficient, but what kind of fuel economy are you observing. I have driven a Sasquatch Bronco with the soft top on the road near Palm Springs out to Yucca Valley and at freeway speeds you definitely notice some tire and wind noise. Man, that Sasquatch Bronco is good off-road though. One of the best off-roaders out there for sure and way more capable than anything I need.
Once you get some saddle time on the bronco raptor you really start to appreciate it, in regards to the fenders because the vehicle is so different and it’s not like anything else on the road and sticks out like a sore thumb, but once you get used to it you really appreciate the fenders I think they look awesome!!! and performance wise it’s incredible, coming from a Jeep 392 and now owning the bronco raptor I was spoiled by the sound of the hemi & the power but in actuality the bronco raptor is much more fun and comfortable to drive it’s just a great all around vehicle, But it does attract a lot of attention which I’m not used to, And it’s extremely capable off-road. Also it tows very well and tracks down the highway/roadways perfectly. Set up the R button in sport mode with Baja exhaust and shut off track control in the vehicle comes to life!!!
I personally wanna see the cx50 turbo on your off-road course, tested thoroughly, the TFL way
Reminding me more of your dad, that’s a compliment!!!
How long before that gauge cluster quits working?
The Bronco Raptor suspension and chassis improvements are what make it worth it. The engine is meh and Ford knows it. Needs the 3.5L Ecoboost or better. The 3.0L should be an option in all the Broncos instead of the 2.7.
What is it with all the drag racing in trucks or SUVs??? I bought my truck because it is versatile, comfortable, highly capable off-road, tows my 6x14, and makes for a great camping rig. It has good enough power to complete all those duties and be "fun", but I don't care one bit about 0-60 times. If I want to go fast I have motorcycles and a sub 5-second car. And these days even that "quick" car is no match for most of the family EVs coming out, so it REALLY makes the concept of quick ICE trucks that much more absurd. Please. Give us content that matters. Test this awesome rig on the trails or even on the Ike.
Do you know if there will be a bronco raptor hybrid? I just came back from adv/off road safari totaling 6718 miles in 2 weeks. Averaging 14.1 mpg on my 2020 f150. I paid close to $3500 in gas.
I remember someone saying that these Broncos achieve faster 0-60 times launching for 2nd gear due to the the way the turbo mapping keeps the vehicle in a higher turbo PSI for the duration of the acceleration test...IDK though..
Nice rig! But don't pay 1 cent mark up, the bubble will burst and thousands of people will be upside and hundreds will be repoed and a few years Vehicles will be sitting on lots everywhere!
Who will buy them though when nobody has a job and we’re all locked down for round 20 of COViD?
Interesting video Tommy!! Great work!! Iv seen a few Broncos in my area..they seem to be drawn to the Gray colored models here.. Enjoy the day Tommy!!😃
There are some dealers who sell at MSRP. With most of these dealer markups, it's going to be cheaper to buy a one-way ticket then drive home.
Well done Ford. From a distance, at first glace of the thumbnail I thought it was a G-Wagon.
Don't forget though, that all Bronco 2 and 4 doors have replaceable fenders front AND rear. So if you don't like the look of the fenders, sell them and buy some other fenders you do like.
The Bronco Raptor is too wide for trails because it’s made for the desert. So heavy it gets to 60 in a slow 6.8 seconds. Rare that you can’t get one unless you pay the 100k dealerships will demand. All that to get what? The Raptor name and some saddlebag fenders?
In a Bronco they call this the OJ Simpson test
warmer then keystone in a ranger.. the fender flares match the roof?> prob give you no prob pulling a lock off a gate on the way to the black hills back roads
I wish the bronco came with a diesel engine
Same :) the closest thing the world gets to a diesel Bronco is the 3.0 L Power Stroke V6 turbo U704 Everest, it's also T6.2 based. If there's ever an Everest Raptor it will be quite interesting because there will be quite a lot of overlap with the Bronco in terms of capabilities. I suspect an Everest Raptor will be slightly below the Sasquash package in terms of off-road ability.
Can those obnoxiously large fender flairs come off and standard badlands flairs be added instead?
Well Palm Springs averages in the 110’s this time of year And Tommy did not look to be sweating so I’m guessing he had the air conditioning on. I would expect times to be a bit better
you said functional venting on top of the hood?? isn't the venting blocked by the insulation under the hood?
Good video but quick clarification: The non-Raptor Broncos have an analog Speedometer (not an analog tach), which is really dumb! I would have preferred a full digital display, but I could have at least understand having an analog tach. I’ll be looking to try to switch mine to a full digital display if/when it becomes available.
6.8 second 0-60? Seems a bit slow. Considering it’s a turbo engine, seems kind of slow even for Sedona’s 4,350’ elevation. Fender flares don’t look that great. Sounds somewhat anemic, but could just be how it come across on video. Honestly, now that I look at it, I don’t see much appealing over a well equipped Bronco. Definitely a niche product for the Baja folks, as opposed to the Raptor F150 which IMO has a wider appeal. Or maybe I’m just not the target market.
Throw in the fact that you probably can’t get one for a couple of years anyway, I just don’t think the appeal will hold. I’m somewhat disappointed, I expected to be more excited about it.
Hagerty did a proper launch and got 5.9 0-60
@@kidmick809 Thanks for the update. I saw that video a while after posting this, but unfortunately saw the that 392 Wrangler smoke it which only reinforced that the Raptor Bronco is not for me. I'd either go well equipped Bronco or 392 Wrangler. Same reason I bought a TRX instead of a Raptor. Not to mention the buying process was much easier, transparent, and less costly ordering from RAM.
Is the ride still too firm with the softest shock setting? Imagine the intrusion off-road then. It must go softer I'm guessing.
Enjoyed the video but there is no analog tach on the standard Bronco. There is an analog speedo but not a tach.
The Braptor is a disappointment in virtually every possible category. Even reservation holders can't get it. If you can find one, you are going to pay way over MSRP. Then if you get it, it's slower than a 2 door Jeep JL. Why would anyone buy this when you can go order a Rubicon 392 Wrangler and get it in 5 weeks for less than you'd pay for this slug of a truck?
Because the pavement is the last place this would be and this kills the 392 wrangler off road where it was built to be.
Ordered one for msrp and wasn’t even a reservation holder. I have a sports car for going fast, this will be perfect for what I need especially if I can get it before it snows.
Damn bro you look exactly like your pops bad ass color
Please just get over the "big black" fender flares, it get's mentioned to death. It is there, and yes it is appealing. I like it.
Any time I hear exhaust sound from the interior of a ford during a video I take it with a big grain of salt. PHAT PIECES OF SALT! Can’t trust it.
Ford needs to put the 7.3 Godzilla motor in it.
props to being able to wear skinny jeans brother
I'm sure a raptor R variant will come after F150 raptor R.
Great video Tommy we love this new bronco raptor couple of questions I know you always put it in sport mode for the 0 to 60 but wouldn’t it be faster in the Baja mode with all the nannies turned off and the exhaust in Baja mode please reply
I’m glad you break torque unlike your old man. Even being a bronco and on big tires, how is it that much slower then something like the explorer st
He still needs to launch it in 2nd gear. 1st gear is dog shit.
"Exhaust Valving" is code for 'Sounds like Crap'
Am disappointed that the interior in the production ready Bronco Raptor is not the same like the interior in the revealed Bronco Raptor with the leather on the dash & those cool colored seats. Almost like the Wrangler 392 that has plain black interior instead of that cool red interior like the 392 concept.
There’s different options. The MGV (this one) is super basic. There’s two upgraded options: black leather/suede and navy/orange
@@andrewryan3244 oh nice
I love you tommy
Need to make a V8 bronco
I’d get one for a daily if I hit the lotto.
To bad the fender flairs are HIDEOUS AF!!!!....
All the electronic gadgets are cool but they are one more thing to go wrong.
Id rather have all the off road capability than the power
I’m sorry that thing is hideous!!! The 392 sounds and looks better. Best looking Bronco is the Everglades.
The Explorer ST platform is insane - especially after a (torque sensitive) ZFG tune. The amount of accessible power left in that 3.0 engine is incredible and this Raptor will be no different. Gains on dynos report to be over 150hp and 150 torque to the wheels for a daily driver. The only thing that limits this will be the transmission’s ability to handle torque. Not sure what the Raptor has but if its Ford’s 10r80 transmission then there’s no issue.
I agree turbo vechiles are detuned from the factory but I dont think I agree with just finding an extra 150hp/150trq with no aftermarket mods to increase parameters. With it being a Raptor I dont think it would be de tuned 🤷🏻♂️
It’s the same 10R60 found in the base Bronco.
@@slipknotron1626 yep, I failed to mention the addition of the Whipple intercooler and a tune to take advantage of it. What I’m getting at is that there’s a lot of unlocked potential left in the 3.0 Eco platform. I work with these vehicles daily and I’m not exaggerating when I say that reaching 600hp is easily attainable with just a few of these mods alone. Some are taking it further with upgraded turbos, fuel pumps, intakes and corn.
@@slipknotron1626 by the way, every vehicle on earth using a computer is factory tuned. So be careful saying the Raptor isn’t tuned. It sure is.
@@SuperForged 🤣🤣🤣
It's no Chevy ZR2.
Chevy zr2 is a garbage in front of this
It drives great on highway
clear some of the crap out of your garage then you can get one :)
Every new vehicle seat sucks. I can see your back slanting back and your shoulder to base of the neck straight or even slanted forward. I hate the anti-whiplash design of every vehicle about 10 years old or newer. The back of your neck is slanted forward anytime your head isn’t against the headrest.
I'm really not impressed with the Bronco Raptor. It's too wide to fit into my garage spot or basically any parking lot. The capability improvements aren't that large compared to the price increase over a standard bronco badlands, and I think it looks much uglier with those fender flares.
F150 Raptors have been around for 12 years. Your own personal garage excepted, it's not that big a deal to live with. And these are a lot shorter than the F150.
While I love my fords I very likely won’t be buying another as the manufacturer is now forcing buyers to direct order. In turn discounts typically available usually resulted in prices below MSRP. Everything I’ve read indicates that you will not only pay MSRP but the dealers will add their costs ($$$$) on top. Many dealerships will fold resulting in even higher prices for new vehicles and specialized maintenance repair prices over and above. While I don’t like dealerships per say I do like having the ability to negotiate between them locally when shopping for a new vehicle.
The Ford manufacturer is screwing nit only the dealer but the consumer. Ford - 🖕🏼
It’s all part of the plan. Don’t get angry, get even. Go buy a used Toyota 4-runner privately and enjoy your off road vehicle carefree.
A little repetitive, don't ya think?
needs a v8
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What a rip off that's what you should get for 60k not 80k
Is very slow for a Raptor
Isnt it over 5000lbs? I'm sure the weight doesn't help.
Only for the rich.
Please don’t blow up the engine…
What a stupid comment it’s 2022 ford would never let you go that fast if the engine was at risk of blowing up
nearly 7 seconds from 0-60 in a Raptor?? No thanks bro!
did anyone notice ford raised their prices by 1k usd on their website🥲