The internet has become a toxic place. Enough is enough
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*"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with being disrespectful to people and not getting punched in the face for it."* - Mike Tyson
I agree on the meaning of the quote.
Tbf it's from a guy who punched his wife.
Very complex individual.
I don’t 100% agree, that assumes that your perception of what is rude is correct. What I perceive as being rude and what others perceive as being rude is different. And that doesn’t take into account things like context the assumption to know what their their intentions behind it were. Just coz you feel they were being rude doesn’t mean they were or that was their intention. Might be a tender topic, or an overreaction on your part
@@Pssst.ByTheWayig but they aren’t talking about criticism they’re talking about name calling and degrading language, it’s a bit disingenuous to say that lmao
Deleting Facebook and Instagram (not only the apps, but my accounts) made my live much better. SocMed cripples emotionally.
I don't have it also (Instagram and Facebook, never had Tik-Tok) for a two years and it's sooo good ❤😂
"This is called grass. You should go touch it sometime. Look, touch it, it feels good"
That was so sudden and out of place I love it!
I have BPD and was diagnosed last year. I have an issue with taking things that should have a 0-10 level of reaction to 100.
Filling my life with friends who genuinely care, and working on the issues I have through therapy and fulfilling hobbies has left me no time to argue with strangers on the internet. I still engage when I know someone has a bad take, but it’s not worth it to spend twenty minutes or more on it. I could be using that time to crochet my nephew a blanket or spend time with my newlywed husband.
The life you live as a grass toucher is starkly different than someone chronically online and it shows
Grass toucher x) hehe
Im glad to hear you found some peace💚🌱
It's pretty victim blaming to say if can't handle the trolls don,t be a content creator...like if women can't handle harassment they should not go outside, that's the same train of thought of putting the responsibility of harassment on the victim instead of putting the harasser accountable
Yes but at the same time if you knowingly head out into rough seas you should be expecting rough weather and go with an ability to handle it… I do totally agree with you, but the point does remain.
Yeah, you're right, everyone else should change.
Yeah but people on the internet are notoriously toxic. So why complain if you placed yourself in that situation. It's like a celebrity complaining about paparazzi.
@@doyoueatrocks Yeah like prepare yourself for it but it doesn't mean it's okay and should be tolerated like it is now and that the victims shouldn't voice how bad it's making them feel
@@doyoueatrocks If in your analogy the seas had the ability to be reasoned with, make their own rational decisions, and calm tf down so folks on boats could safely travel, then it would be a bit more on point.
The people harassing others are sentient (mostly) creatures capable of analyzing their own behaviors, seeing the effects it has on others, and changing accordingly.
Placing the responsibility on those being harassed to properly prepare for those conditions effectively removes all agency from those who are responsible for making those conditions in the first place.
This whole situation with ‘group think’ is so enraging and frustrating, when I read comments on UA-cam which is the only social media I have, I can’t believe just how many people are incapable of thinking rationally, of having 2 minutes of common sense, it is so freaking insane to me how a person can dehumanize another person just because they see them through a screen.
IMO.
It's a way for them to feel better. They are usually terrible people and it gives them a feeling of belonging with other violent individuals.
There is an addon for browser to turn off UA-cam comments. I don't need it anymore, but it safed me a lot of stress when I was at a point when I couldn't control my reaction and engaged in dicussions with trolls and haters.
truee
My boyfriend is an educational content creator and sometimes certain posts will have tons of people making fun of his appearance and making rude assumptions about his health, just basically ripping him to shreds for no reason. He is exactly the type of person whom others would assume “can handle it” but these comments hurt him and make him feel very misanthropic and like he’s lost faith in humanity. I think anyone who puts themselves out on the internet is truly brave!
Reading youtube comments is a constant reminder of why we live in a world of constant shocking personal and national violence.
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@@strawpiglet the crazy thing is that UA-cam comments are tame compared to other platforms 🙈
@@bbyjirl having made content myself, I agree. Despite what's going on politically/legal end of UA-cam, I honestly can attest to feeling misanthropic on other platforms compared to here...
That is so sad, specially if he's trying to educate people. He's doing content to inform society, he shouldn't be criticized for superficial reasons. He's doing good and is treated badly for ridiculous reasons.
I deleted my final social media account over the weekend. I just want real personal connections from here on out. No more followers, or likes etc.
How do the younger generations achieve this? Many who unplug only awaken to find themselves in a socially barren wasteland.
How does any generation achieve this?
woo hoo!! 👏
"this is called grass touch it sometimes" 🤣🤣
Cutting out gossip channels like mentioned has brought me a lot of peace. And managing what I see on Social Media - I don‘t have TikTok, Snapchat etc., except Instagram, where I only follow friends and content creators who spread positivity and do things I aspire to do in my own life as well - and never scrolling through the for you page ever; if there are no new posts by the accounts I follow, I simply close the app.
People being assholes online just shows how unhappy they are
1990-born "nerd" here whose earliest memories contain dial-up modem sounds:
The internet has *always* been a very toxic place. In some ways, it used to be worse due to one's ability to more reliably maintain anonymity. In other words, the root of toxicity online is precisely due to the fact that people can so easily disassociate themselves from how they would act irl vs. online. The only reason we notice this unhinged behavior more now is because there are more people online and that it has seeped into more and more facets of everyone's life.
I learned very long ago that the only way to maintain my sanity was to only say and behave in ways online that I would say or do directly to the affected person's face.
Same. It has made me a better person.
I'm honestly mixed on this one. Should influencers and celebrities be harassed? Absolutely not. No one should.
I do think it's a bit naive to expect that it's never going to happen online, though. Because of that, I don't think that it's wrong to tell someone to steel themselves when they put stuff out on the internet. It's kinda like when you get a fire extinguisher for a kitchen. You obviously don't want a fire to start in the kitchen, but you're prepared if there ever is one.
This belief cones from my experience. Personally, I've encountered a ton of bullying on the internet and IRL, and I've just grown to deal with it by just blocking people or not engaging them. Is it right that I get bullied? No. In a perfect world, there wouldn't be any kind of bullying. But I have tools at my disposal to deal with it.
Edit: I do agree with a lot of comments here saying to unplug off of social media. Social media is probably one of the most unhelpful things that's ever been invented.
it reminds me the early UA-cam era when the idea of "well, you're posting videos, you're choosing to get hate and d€ath threats" was normal. Eesh.
CR has been getting tons of hate for these videos, calling her entitled and rude and that she should expect no less because she's famous. It's enraging. Imagine telling a woman that, while she's alone in public, she is recognized by a stranger and must agree to take part in conversation, be photographed, and touched against their will. She must "consent" to being stalked, and her family being stalked, because she covertly agreed to it by signing an employment contract. It's mind-boggling. She has no idea who you are, what your motives are, if you're carrying weapons, if you intend to harm her, etc. That so many WOMEN are calling her "weak" and "entitled" is horrifying. As for the last video, I agree with almost everything the influence said, but I do question what "woke intellectualism" is supposed to be. Really tired of people co-opting that word and using it to describe anything they don't like.
Wow I'm glad I haven't seen any of those videos, I must be on the right side of the algorithm.
As for woke intellectualism, while I can't speak to what the original creator meant, I would define it as people justifying their hatred of a person by using intellectual-sounding arguments, choosing to frame someone as "all bad" because of their perceived imperfection or mistakes.
I typically never comment or read the comments in a UA-cam video. It's surprising to me that you get so much hate, I have been watching since the DBT module playlist and have learned so much from this channel. Thank you for expanding accessibility in the field of Psychology for us laypeople learning as a hobby it has been extremely beneficial in my life.
The worst thing is that the same people who are hating and canceling are very likely doing the same thing as the celebrity
There's no reasoning with haters
people in real life: hey hows it going
Okay, my plan for running into celebrities is to say "I love like your content.", and go back to what I'm doing.
Ana gotta admit you keeping your composure is really impressive, hat's off to you
The comment section bots seem to infuriate me more when they are saccharine rather than the usual negative yapping
I've never seen positive bots (except when they promise "my friend Dave has the secret to crypto!"), is that a thing?
They are on so many channels I guarantee you have without realizing. I hate that i’m about to type this, but It’s usually photos cropped just to show a bikini clad lady’s crotch, or chest. They commonly post comments immediately when videos go live saying something like “your videos always make me feel so good.”
@@AnaPsychology Usually there are sex bots and they say things like "Thank you for sharing your profound and wise vision of life and blablabla", or some things like that. I'm a bit surprised you never saw one of them, but good for you. :)
Bless your heart 😉
Loved the Touching Grass cutaway! That was adorable!
When you said “triggering the collective shadow”!! Would love to hear more about what that means to you :)
Lately I have felt as if I suddenly became so negative. I would listen to my inner dialogue and I was getting frustrated with people I cared about. After watching the video, I feel as if it's maybe from watching too many gossip channels. It can be interesting to hear influencers talk about drama or celebrities. But like you said, at the end of the day, they are humans too. They have their own inner demons and conflicts. Who knows what the "truth" is or how they did what. It is none of our business. They deserve compassion and respect like everyone else. I think your video really brought to light the issues with social media in regards to fame. Thank you Ana, I think I needed to evaluate my consumption as a consumer ❤️ I don't usually leave comments but I feel like your videos are always interesting to me and informative. Even if there is something I don't agree with, I am not going to attack you in the comments. I think people forget that two ideas can exist at once. It is beautiful that people have different opinions, otherwise we are an echo chamber
When I worked in telemarketing there were toxic people there too. I've done both outbound and inbound calls. I got a lot of polemic calls. They would try to stir me up for them to have any excuse or reason to insult, yell, and abuse me over the phone. It was consistent in both outbound and inbound calls. They may have had something going on in their lives. However trying to hurt a telemarketer isn't a healthy way to deal with their issues. Smiling and keeping a positive tone probably minimized the amount of these toxic calls I encountered.
I had a pretty decent following on UA-cam and I was so, so happy in life. I was helping people and connecting. Family and other jealous content creators harassed me to the point that I left. I've been depressed ever since and I have lost myself. I'm scared and hurt to the point where I don't even have hobbies anymore. It hurts too much. I almost ended things a few times. It is getting so bad out there and I've vowed to never return to social media.
Like another commenter mentioned, I think people were outraged by Chappell’s comments because in her list of behaviours along with stalking and harassment, she talked about approaching someone on the street and asking for a photo. I would argue that those ARE elements that come with being famous and should be expected, however, celebrities should still be allowed to set boundaries and deny photos without it escalating to abuse from fans. When you zoom out and look at the big picture of what she’s saying, she’s absolutely right that people online normalise far too many actions when it comes to interacting with celebrities and we need a wake up call to that.
As someone who has to experience negative behaviour from customers on occasion, no they don't deserve this behaviour just because of the job they choose
Thank you for addressing this topic and sharing your own experience. I'm sorry you had to go through this. I don't understand why people feel the need to know every single thing about a creator. Like if you said you live in Europe, I might think, "Oh, cool, I wonder where," but you don't owe us to divulge the city or even country if you don't feel comfortable. I wonder if we've gotten so used to people oversharing that when we come across someone keeping stuff private it feels weird. One of my favorite UA-camrs purposely has always kept any part of his real name secret and I think it's cool, though he still occasionally shares random tidbits about his life like what state he grew up in, the fact he served in the Army, and what his job was before he became a UA-camr.
I also think the second lady has some great points. I feel like the fact I do use my real name on UA-cam and Facebook both helps keep me from oversharing and has occasionally made me really think about how I word something so it's not too mean. Anonymity can definitely bring out a worse side of people. Maybe it's a mob mentality thing?
Also the only reason I've heard of Chappell Roan before is she's suddenly become a topic of conversation on a radio talk show I listen to over the past two or three weeks. They always say her name like "chapel," but if I hadn't heard of her before I can see where it would be tricky to guess how to say her name. 😊
Socail media is a great tool to connect people but the unfortunate aspect is there are many miserable people that want to inflict that misery on others. It is immature and rude and should not be the case. Great video!
I'm glad your channel has not turned into a clickbait celebrity content farm like many other cultural commentators. You've found your own interesting way of approaching these topics without passively or actively making situations like this worse. It's so shocking to me how normal it is to be mean online.
I don’t think paradoxical relationships exist as it pertains to UA-camrs and tiktokers.
This is social media.
It’s actually kind of grotesque that people come onto social media, pretend to view the people they interact with as actual human beings, and then turn around and make videos like she did.
Like…it’s genuinely grotesque behavior to treat someone like that and then to make a video about it.
I’ve no issue with some random celebrity taking issue with these kinds of interactions. But she got to where she got to pretending to care about the human beings she interacts with via a social media site. That’s just gurney.
That "touch grass" cut away would make good memes. Delivery 👌
Asta e unul dintre canalele mele favorite ^.^ keep up the good work
On a very different note: Your hair is looking so good! It's gotten so long! :) I'm growing out mine at the moment, so I always notice in others, cannot wait to get to your length! ^^
I talked with my wife about this. We're both really weirded out by the narrative. I think it's completely nuts that so many people believe celebrities "owe" their fans something. The celebrity had a product the consumer wanted. The consumer paid for the product and received it, transaction over. I don't care how many people like someone's music, or value their acting ability, or just think they're really pretty. Famous people don't owe you anything. Leave them alone.
Fake Facebook life has effected us all. Everyone thinks they are a millionaire,famous, or highly important to the world. I quit Facebook years ago. Have never missed it. UA-cam is even worse
11:51 This is an assumption lol. As a faceless nameless account I do it for privacy. You can easily dig into other people’s info simply through a picture alone. I get why people think that, but it’s just coming from a different perspective.
No way bro you just proved the entire point 😱
@@Phoenixfox-og6el Not really, it’s their choice to use give up their anonymity, the same way it’s another’s to keep theirs. You don’t exactly have your actual name and picture up either. We live in the day and age where AI can steal our voices, faces, find us in an instant, etc. I’m not going to help the process. I can put 1 screenshot of this video into a website to find this person’s pictures, I like to do find me challenges so I’ve found people simply from signs in the background..
Therefore, I will express myself normally without strangers having to know it’s specifically coming from me: name, face, etc attached.
You missed the point. Members of an internet forum still have an ‘identity’. They develop a rep that eventually needs to stay cohesive and maintained. These things such as user identifiers (old forum boards have large avatars, signatures, member ranks etc) are diminished on purpose on sites like Reddit and UA-cam.
There’s a disconnection between a persons account and their comments, which anonymises them. Essentially, since you’re a nobody, you are anonymised. You can still be somebody identifiable and still have privacy so long as you have a name that you wear outwardly.
@@Jupa Also, I get that since you’re a nobody you’re more anonymous, but she’s not saying that. She’s saying, you’d put your name and picture there if you’d really stand on what you’re saying, it’s two separate arguments.
I hear not reading comments helps A LOT.
I support your work, thank you putting up with all the bs!
I normally don’t post but this vid had weird vibes. Totally against harassment and stalking, 100%. But negative comments and criticism should be fine (and are protected speech). Let’s delineate the difference between the two types of speech.
It's been getting me down more and more, year by year. Just watching the histeria and trying my best not to be involved. Is it so hard to learn to listen? Like really listen?
Oh and thanks for everything your doing it's heart-warming :)
thank you & take care dr. ana!!
I am happy that I can follow you safely, for ny soul.
Unfortunately due to the laws of the universe this, this behavior is only an ideal that cannot exist in reality
i think it's awesome you moved to europe! welcome (back ig?) 🥳
Hey, you do you. That is all. Awesome insights on this channel.
I don't usually comment here Ana but I really like your channel and your work here
Very true and well stated, we live in a social and political somewhat chaotic period and many people need to project their frustrations. It takes a lot of guts to be a content creator.
well yeah. humans are scared to tell others that humans are guilty of exploiting wildlife and forcing animals and plants to suffer in domestication.
Thanks!
Greg Doucette comes to mind when I think of a toxic gossip channel and yes you are right I get sucked in and start arguing with people on his channel and driving engagement. I need to stop.
Why Greg Doucette? Used to watch him when I was younger so I'm kinda curious what made u think of himmm
@@nolife8209 He started off giving fitness advice which was very good and then he transitioned his channel into being purely a gossip channel and hating on various people in the fitness industry.
Thank you so much for making this :)
We lock our doors when we sleep. real life is more dangerous than internet comments.
I do not lock my doors.. My cars are even parked with the keys in the ignition ;)
@@andersnielsen6044 where are you from?
@@pyoutube2285 Denmark, countryside 45 minutes from Copenhagen ;)
no lies here.
Has become? 😏 Always has been
This is part of the reason I took a break from content create.
Here's a great quote about this from Brené Brown:
“If you are not in the arena getting your ass kicked on occasion, I am not interested in or open to your feedback. There are a million cheap seats in the world today filled with people who will never be brave with their own lives, but will spend every ounce of energy they have hurling advice and judgement at those of us trying to dare greatly. Their only contributions are criticism, cynicism, and fear-mongering. If you're criticizing from a place where you're not also putting yourself on the line, I'm not interested in your feedback.”
She put it beautifully!
X is a hotspot for the toxicity.
7:42 I think having no politicians would be good 🤣
Nonetheless, I completely agree with you. Even though I’m not a fan of Chappell Roan.
It’s upsetting hearing about the hate that you received over the Europe video ): I love reading your comment sections because the majority of commenters here are thoughtful and intelligent. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hate comment here. But they still happen and you have to be the one to read them all… that sucks! I feel like trolls are just trying to poke and poke until they find a sensitive spot that will get a rise out of you. OBVIOUSLY Europe can be referred to as a continent. It takes literally zero explanation for why.
love your point about "US" being the problem. this is something i've always been saying. commenters blaming an entity or concept for toxicity online when it's the result of a collective decision what to enable or engage with, THAT"S ON YOU!! THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE TO ENABLE THIS CONTENT!!
Yeah I think the dynamic between celebs and normals is like this too.
Def unfair to them but I think it’s a culture thing, very difficult to tackle in a meaningful way.
She not wrong to feel like this, remember Christina gimme? I hope something like that doesn't happen again
Love this video Anna! that 2nd tiktok lady was spot on they just hate for hate if they wanted to hold someone accountable they would use their real name and picture not hide behind screens
You didn't know who Chappell Roan is?!?!?! Great video tho
heck naw, im gonna have to be real rude and defensive for what you just said. I can't believe you just said such ignorant statements. There is good produce in the US! lol it does take some digging to find it though lol. im jk. good vid, social media needs views to get ad revenue and it inherently attracts toxicity. it sucks and is a going to be a difficult issue to tackle. ty for speaking out on it
Yeah lol I noticed that too. Juicier? Juicier?? 😂 That don’t even make sense
Do you have any videos dealing with how to overcome inadequacy in terms of your partner's ex's?
Mhm, society.
Hello Ana, I really like your channel. Please could you do a video on maladaptive daydreaming.
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Good show
A sip of common sense in a sea of nonsense
Very true. We need to be kinder or put our name and picture to our words
Funny when you use your own social media
Haha loved the touch grass
No one can handle the vitriol.
It's true.
And also, humans are, amongst the beautiful things we are, a nit picky, petty hateful species and have been WAY longer than we've had the internet.
Lmao @ the grass 😂👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
yes
The internet is horrible … get in, and get out … lol
Ironically internet harassment has been worse in the past, and is probably better than it used to be. It just so happens to still be really bad.
commenting for algorithm.....
Touch grass 21:10
Yeeeh touch the grasssss~!! :D
yes touch grass!! lol love the mini interlude
For what it's worth, I don't care where you live lmao
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😎
I'm proud to say I'm too sensitive for the internet as a recovering internet addict and former NEET. In fact, most people are too sensitive for the internet. The internet has been an overall net negative on the human psyche, that's a simple fact. Everyone's so obsessed with being aloof online as if an increasing amount of young people aren't wasting away on their devices with no direction or purpose.
Without her fans, she is nothing. I'm sure she likes the perks of her fame. She is entitled. I have zero sympathy.
When you follow fame and clout and not your passion, you'll end up in the middle of cluster B's playground.
Hey Ana. I came across this man's video- I have not seen a man discuss this personal issue so honestly and openly before. I think it's very good and I am interested to hear your thoughts on his experience, and specifically his take on his time in therapy. Because I respect you're opinion a lot! Sorry this is unrelated to the video but I am not sure where else to ask this! ua-cam.com/video/DVODALg-prg/v-deo.htmlsi=zxTF_PYSzHEgvfpL
You lost all your street cred when you pronounced Chappell like Dave Chappelle. 😉 It's just "chapel." An understandable error though!
My secret weapon to pronouncing musician's names right: Watching them being introduced to perform on shows like Late Night.
Personally, I am confused by Chappell's false equivalence between the stalkers and the random fans that see her in public and ask for a selfie. People have asked celebrities for autographs in public for decades, that's not new. The fact that smartphones and social media have changed it from autograph to selfie doesn't really change much. I would very much appreciate better discussion of this grey area.
Thank you for not knowing who Chappell Roan is!
I didn't perceive it as her conflating the two, but rather listing a number of parasocial experiences. While I personally don't find it creepy for people to want a selfie with a public figure, a fan giving backlash when the answer is no is absolutely entitled and boundary-violating. It's not on the same scale as stalking and harassment, but it speaks to the same issues.
Analyzing individual mind outside their social, political and economic context, this kind of senseless psychological modeling is doomed to fail, for good.
2nd and kudos for the topic ! *solidair react * for what you've been going through. I've recently came across another youtuber, a tarot reader that I love, talking about this particular subject. It looks like the situation is rising concerns for many people. BTw I like Chapell's music !
I'm gonna need to check out her music!
@@AnaPsychology The song "My kink is Karma" is actually quite hilarious.
I dont listen to chappels music but i love her for calling out this behavior and trying to live her life. I hate that online hate has become so normalized
I never, ever, EVER understood people’s obsession with controlling celebrities, saying that it’s ‘okay’ to stalk them ‘because they’re a celebrity, and saying that they ‘asked for this’ by choosing an audience-facing role. No profession is exempt from human decency.
I agree with you wholeheartedly about how Internet is a place where people don't have to be accountable for the things they say and they can literally say anything they would never say to your face in real life. Now think about this - where do people have the time to literally consume SO MUCH content and to leave negative comments for all or most of it? I feel like often their lives are missing something and they are trying to fill those with anything really, to feel they have some sway over other people's mood or to make other people feel bad - something. I also feel a lot of people are just not mature enough. Internet keyboard battles are for younger guys who have too much time on their hands.
Ugh it must be so frustrating that you and so many other content creators get hate and random judgements from people day in and day out. Love this video. This message needs to be screamed from the rooftops. Also the grass footage was hilarious 😂
How come everyone I meet subtly feels like their saying " I'm done, enough already".