Literally. It's the same dress she liked, he just called it something. No ones gonna be like "omg cute dress the color is amazing!! Oh it's pink? Lmao that shits ugly" tf
I think she changed her mind because after someone perceived it as pink, and she didn’t want pink. So she started seeing it as a bit pink, and got all stuck up on it.
the modern trend of choosing a colour/style and having the bridesmaids wear different dresses around the theme is SO MUCH BETTER than everyone being identical. The bridal party members can choose a dress in their budget, that suits their body, and the bride likes too. Solves so much potential conflict.
This is what I’m doing. They are the most important and loved women in your life. Why would anyone want them to be unhappy? 😭 i want my bridesmaids to look in the mirror and think they look amazing, beautiful, confident, excited for the day, not ugly, uncomfortable, dreading the idea that they’re having photos taken when they’re not feeling confident and knowing that those photos are going to be on display in peoples houses and on social media and in albums forever. So sad :( I love the idea that all their smiles in my photos will be genuine ♥️
This is exactly what I did! Gave them the color, length, and accessory colors and let them go to town with it. Some of my maids are seamstresses and didnt have the extra money for a fancy dress, so they made their own for only about $15. And some of them bought bulk accessories on amazon and saved money that way. Everything looked amazing day of and no one was stressed in the process!
it's so confusing that these brides are like "it's my wedding I don't care at all about what my friends feel". Like what is more important, your vision, or actually having these friends after your wedding??
Exactly!! Plus I would hate to look back at my wedding and have memories of the fighting and anger. The pictures might come out nice but the memories won't, and I think that's more important.
I feel like there should be a middle ground where the bridesmaids agree on certain stuff like themes, colours, etc and the bride respects if her bridesmaids are uncomfortable with certain styles or prices
@@mochibunnyan6556 Yeah! I don't want the bride to be some kind of pushover and give in and get something she doesn't like. The bride should totally have a vision, and have colour, length, and vibe in mind, but if bridesmaids are uncomfortable with the fit or price point of the dress, the bride needs to adjust a little.
Tbh thou you shouldn’t be having friendship-ending arguments with your bridesmaids either over a goddamn dress, both parties are just as bad as each other if they’re willing to let a bad dress choice ruin years of friendship *shrug*
In my country bridesmaids are not a thing in weddings so I'm always shocked by the entitlement of the brides. The bride should pay for the dresses if she wants people to have a certain dress. Even for my best friend I couldn't spend more than 100€ on a dress I'm never really going to wear again. It's insane to me that they don't ask the bridemaides if they have a budget/respect it.
If they at least were dresses someone could wear again to other events, I could maybe see asking them to pay up to a certain budget (maybe $300) but if it's more expensive, they better pay the difference
For a few years I believed that it was the bride and groom who payed for the dresses cause even as a kid having someone pay for a dress you want them to wear is kinda shameless.
@bribripot yup i totally agree with you! i think the same color scheme but different dresses it's so much better! that way everyone can wear something they like and also are comfortable with! everyone has a different style and body types so it's such a better way of doing things
@@amandab722 It's still a "proper" wedding if you don't go by american wedding culture rules. As a German I really don't get this obsession with following every single expectation for a cliché cookiecutter wedding as I see it portrayed in American media. All those added frills aren't what makes a wedding valid, or special. Don't let anyone tell you this is the only way to get "properly" married :) No one goes broke for a wedding over here, and we still have beautiful, romantic ceremonies and celebrations.
Yikes, if a friend asked me to be in her wedding and treated me like these brides treat their friends, I would tell them politely that I don't wish to participate
But also, they’ve managed to be FRIENDS for so long and in this particular case, she emailed them the rules. Seeing that and knowing her personality, they could’ve politely rejected to be bridesmaids because they can’t follow those rules, but they still want to be by her side on her big day even as a guest. They know it’s her way or no way because there’s no higher way, they can’t moan about it later 🤷🏼♀️ EDIT: talking about the first bride
@@1LauraMeow Yeah all of these people complaining have never been married or at least never done a wedding themself. It's extremely stressful and puts pressure on the bride a lot. All of the moaners sound so fucking stupid lmao.
Tell me about it! They are really dull, boring, and not creative. I don't understand why anyone would pay that much for them. The fabric doesn't have much of a color texture. Just one color... where is the sheer, embroidered/beaded fabric? Monochromatic styles? They are not that imaginative
@@roserain7034 you put down exactly my thoughts about these dresses. I have seen small businesses make amazing dresses than this multi million corporate sell
People say they are like that so they don’t overshadow the bride but dude, you don’t have to make your friends look ugly and remember themselves in a fugly dress 😂
I asked my only bridesmaid- my sister, to pick out whatever dress she wanted in any color of blue. And that was it... told my other friends to come and have fun. The 15 bridesmaids gives me anxiety
I genuinely thought that all brides paid for their bridesmaids dresses because why would someone pay for a dress that you won't even wear outside the wedding. I also discussed with my friends that if we ever get married we just pick out dresses that go with the color scheme and theme of the wedding and just have fun, I personally have the dream of just walking around a mcdonalds in a ball gown just to weird people out.
@@dio6586 unfortunately the bridesmaid always pays in my experience. I've had to pay over $600 for a dress, hair and makeup as a bridesmaid, and it is never worth it.
@@katej7135 I’ve turned down being a bridesmaid three times because I can’t just shell out $500+. Some have been understanding, some haven’t, but the costs of that are just insane. I worked in the wedding industry in college and it’s such a scam. Salespeople encourage this “bridezilla”-ness because it causes folks to spend WAY more money to get everything “perfect.”
It’s ok to say it’s “my way or the highway” when YOU are paying for your bridesmaids’ dresses, but how the hell can you say that and expect them to cough up half a grand for YOUR wedding??
I have been asked to be a bridesmaid four times and each time I lost a friendship over it. Every one of them was a bridezilla. One of them wanted me to pay $1500 for a bridesmaid dress. And that’s one of the cheapest thing she was going to have us purchase. I had to put my foot down when she asked me if I could get rid of my ethnic hair for a day. My so-called “ethnic” hair was my natural Afro.
I'm Russian and I simply don't get it. Where do all these bridezillas come from? Is it some weird ritual? How can one treat her friends - I mean, free adults - like the girl in the video or your friend who asked you to change your hair / to buy a $1500 dress? Don't they see things like that are remembered?
I love it when these shows give off such strong 2008 vibes with the fashön and the heavy smoky eye and the sperm eyebrows, and then when you see the credits it was actually filmed in 2018 👀 (idk about the date of this episode in particular but it happens a lot lol)
That's why I'm only having bridesmaids on my wedding if I have the money to buy them expensive (brand) dresses, cus bridesmaid's dresses all look tacky or cheap.
My bridesmaids’ dresses were pretty! Same with my SIL’s wedding, the bridesmaid dress I wore was really pretty. They were classy evening gown type dresses
Mine was so pretty. It had such an ethereal vibe to it. Plus the sash around the waist could transform it into a different looking dress. All 5 of my sisters and I had the same dress, but the sash made them all look different... my other sister’s bridesmaid dress was really chic. If I ever have to go to a fancy dinner, I can wear that baby
I honestly don't think i could be friends with someone who valued the short span of their wedding and their "vision" over my feelings. Like of course I will wear the dress you like, and I won't tread of your toes, but as my friend I would appreciate you being budget conscious and also conscious to my body type etc.
I 100% agree with you. One thing that stuck out was the second girls “no tan lines” like what? How do you even cover those up if you want everyone in a strapless dress?
I think it’s hard to accommodate for body type when you have multiple girls and you’re trying to fit a single style of dress. But I do like the approach to allowing various styles but with the condition that it has to be the same material and color.
@@Laura-Yu Yeah I agree- like even if the dress isn't the most flattering as long as it suits the whole group best. The thing that really made me sad was how expensive the dress was and some girls couldn't afford it
In the first part, I just don’t understand why the guy didn’t try to save the moment saying “oh my, why did ‘pink’ slip out of my mouth, it’s definitely not pink, I’m sorry, didn’t have good coffee today, haha :) “ or something. It was such a gorgeous dress complimenting the body so well!
Not every dress is going to flatter every body. Various sizes and body types will affect how the dress looks, colors, the way it hangs etc. if you best friend is a size 22 and your sister is a size 4....good luck.
mm, i think it’s better to choose a colour and general style and let them loose in a store. that way they can choose what they want and what looks good on them
@@shaeflatt8428 I'm a big fan of that approach. Like as long as it fits the colors and vibe great! some variation also adds more visual interest and makes the group look less tacky.
@@shaeflatt8428 True. My Mom was a bridesmaid and the bride only told them to pick the same color and she let the bridesmaids decide the style of the dresses. I think it's more efficient and practical that way since the bridesmaids get to pick the style they want and not have an argument about it lol
I’m lucky, my sister was adamant that her bridesmaids wear dresses that wouldn’t break our budgets and that we could wear again. She actually found our dresses at DressBarn of all places and I think per person the dress was maybe like $40-$60, it’s been like 5 years I don’t remember. They were tea length, charcoal black, sort of 50’s in that it was a pretty slim waist and then it has the slightly proofed A-line skirt, and it has these beautiful turquoise flowers on it. Her wedding colors were cream, charcoal black, and turquoise so these dresses fit perfectly. Every girl looked good in her dress, I definitely wore mine multiple times later (I haven’t worn it recently, due to putting on weight 😫). My sister was pretty good at having a beautiful wedding on a bit of a budget. She actually made her wedding dress and veil (both our grandma’s were seamstresses so she picked up some skills from them), so she was big into making sure we didn’t break our budgets to have a beautiful wedding.
I picked the bridesmaid dress color and asked everyone to pick a dress in chiffon fabric in that color that was their style. We made sure to use a website that had options with very reasonable price points. I'd never ask a bridesmaid to drop even $150 on a dress, let alone $500+.
@@Katspearl I used Azazie (but also check Cocomelody and Birdy Grey. David's Bridal runs sales and clearance often, so they're an option too. Azazie and Cocomelody also do affordable wedding gowns.)
I agree. I'm in US, I've been a bridesmaid twice, and both times the brides picked out and paid for the dresses. But they were both very nice dresses, in my opinion lol I like them both very much lol
The US way is spreading - I've been a bridesmaid twice in Australia, once the dress was paid for by the bride (and I looked good in it and liked it) and the other I had to pay huuundreds for (which made me look like a corpse).
I’m in the UK, I’ve told the bridesmaids they can wear whatever dress they want from JJsHouse as long as they’re all the same colour. They can have whatever design they like, they don’t have to wear the same as one another, as long as they’re happy, but I have asked them to pay for their own. I can’t afford to buy 6 dresses, my wedding is not going to be expensive. But they are happy that they get to choose their own that compliments their body, style and will be likely to wear again :)
I think the bride should pay for the dress every time...but at the very least, if the bride picks out the dress, they should pay for it. I'd never pay for a dress someone else chose.
I feel like the "Does it matter?" is only true if the couple is paying for the bridesmaid dresses. If you have to shell out $200 for a glorified prom dress it better be something you might wear more than once.
I’m so happy the whole American bridesmaid thing isn’t a thing in my country. You typically have one or maybe two close friends/sisters who help the bride with all the small details throughout the day. I would carry mints, the bride’s lipstick, needle and white thread, hair pins, etc. in my clutch, check her before she enters the church (then enter when people face the altar again) and help her to the restroom if she has a large dress. I’m not supposed to stand out from the other guests, I’m supposed to blend in and help discreetly
@@halloween482 I’m American and it would make me happy. American weddings are whack. We studied them in sociology. Traditions for tradition sake. Waste of money. The white dress isn’t even an American idea either.
I did my wedding on an EXTREME budget (some of the dresses on Say Yes are more expensive than my entire wedding), and for the bridesmaid dresses I had everyone buy their dresses from the same website- all white, and made from dyeable fabrics. I bought dyes in the wedding colors and we all got together and tie-dyed all the dresses, as well as ties for the groomsmen. The event of coloring all the dresses was the bachelorette party and everything worked out amazingly well!
First bridesmaid group is about to have the last laugh when they drop out of the wedding and eat all the food the bride paid for at the reception as guests lmao
Man if I had 15 bridesmaids I would have just said “this color and a dress similar to this style. Get what ever you can afford and feel comfortable in” boom problem solved.
Purple is my favorite color and people ALWAYS mistake shades of purple for pink or red, it’s actually really frustrating. People be having your whole vision messed up
I mean, I've told friends that I'd love to support them on their big day as a normal guest rather than bridesmaid because I don't want to buy a bridesmaid dress I'll only wear once. 👗🙄
I've already been bridesmaid for the only two people on the planet I'd ever do it for. And I was grinning and bearing it the whoooole time for both of them. I don't even know if I want to be a guest again!
@@SockDrawerDemon I agreed to be a bridesmaid for my stepsister, only to later find out (after dresses were purchased, of course) that none of the bridesmaids were standing with the bride at the altar. 😵I was literally in one wedding photo of the whole thing. Talk about extra pointless. 🙄 I think we as a society need to tell people that it is not just an honor, it's also a BURDEN to be a bridesmaid, so brides aren't compelled to ask a bunch of people to be bridesmaid. 😤 I feel like half the time, brides are just trying not to offend anybody.
As somebody who isn't from the US, it is really hard for me to understand this culture around the bridesmaid's dresses. It looks so uncomfortable for everyone involved. Where I live the bridesmaids just wear whatever they want. The bride doesn't even choose the color (as long as it isn't completely white and thus competes with the brides dress).
500 bucks for a bridesmaid dress is outrageous. I spend 20 when I attended my older brothers wedding and it was on sale. Send a few choices to my sister in law and she liked all of them and not a single one of them was over 50 bucks. We only had a color palette though instead of actually having to dress in the same dress. Our body types were way too different for that and so were our skin tones and hair colors. I'm skinny as fuck, my sister in laws sister is a good bit shorter than me and a lot curvier. There was no way in hell to make the same dress work on both of us EVER. In the end we both found something that worked and was flattering to our body types. Think she only spend around 50 bucks too as she bought her dress secondhand.
Rather then get my friends to wear a dress they don't like, spend a lot of money buying multiple dresses or even ask them to pay I'd just give them a common theme. I'd be like everyone please wear blue or everyone wear florals.
Honestly the whole thing in the US with bridesmaids having to wear matching dresses the bride chooses and they have to pay for…. Like why? Why all of this pressure. Relax. As long as they’re not wearing white, who cares? This kind of stuff doesn’t happen everywhere. Also: we call bridesmaids and groomsmen „marriage witnesses“. They can wear whatever they want. We also haven’t always done the bachelor(ette) parties, traditionally, we do polter evenings, which aren’t divided by gender. On this evening, the couple smashes old dishes because shards are supposed to bring luck. This is one of the few things I’m really looking forwards in the future marriages I’m going to attend. Marriage pranks are also quite common in some parts of our country, where the friends of the couple play a little prank on them, usually after the wedding party.
I don’t understand the drama about bridesmaids dresses. If I would celebrate my wedding and invite all my loved ones, with the most important people (besides my husband and family of course) right by my side, I‘d want them to have a good time. Them feeling comfortable and confident and able to enjoy the day with me would be so much more important to me than aesthetic. I‘d rather have a wild, messy and happy wedding than miserable, but aesthetically pleasing guests. It‘s not my day, it’s our day!
In my country the bride pays for everything, which is only fair. Imagine the bridesmaids having to buy their own dresses. In the movie Bridesmaids, the shopping scene makes so much more sense now.
I'm getting married in 2 weeks! It's a very small wedding of 18 people. I told my friends where whatever you want. It's going to be hot so flip flops and t-shirt of you want. Even my dress is tea length! I don't care about everything being exactly matching and being picturesque. What's going to make a good picture is them being there and being happy.
A bridezilla doesn't dictate things like makeup, unless you don't want red lipstick. No one should have to pay $600 a shot for a bridesmaid's dress. The 2nd bridezilla has no taste.
Nah nah nah the first bride is out of POCKET. I may love you as a friend…but I’m not putting out no $6-700 for a dress. I will dismiss myself as a bridesmaid so fast frfr
The cultural difference is stark when I see these videos. In our culture, there is no such thing as honorary maid and our wedding are pretty extravagant. Most of the dresses in this show aren't deserving of it's price... like no offense. Super plain, boring, dull. I have brought a detailed, full of beads, peachy dress for 186$. Spending 500$ is almost the price of a bride dress not her bridesmaids. We also don't have color scheme. Everyone wears within their budget (since they are buying). As long as it doesn't look like the bride dress, you can even wear white (I've once seen friend/family of the bride wearing a two piece white dress). However, it's pretty rare to see someone wear white so I guess everyone avoids it.
I hate the wearing white for bridesmaids; I think Kate Middleton proved why NOT to have a bridesmaid in white. Anyway, my mom told me many years ago that a bride who allowed or chose white, didn't understand the traditions involved with weddings and , "didn't even have taste in their mouths," if they insisted. What a great little Southern expression!
I was a bridesmaid once, and the experience ranks as the stupidest, most useless thing I've ever done in my entire life. I'd rather be a guest, unless I can get out of that too.
This was brilliant, so funny! Probably 90 percent of the drama on this show could be avoided if the bride paid for the dresses and there was no distinction between bridesmaids, but then Lori wouldn't need to comment and we need that!
These people don't know what friendship is, I don't see any sincere relationship between these girls. And also asking someone to pay for a dress they don't like and is more than they are ready to pay is just horrible. Too much vanity and show-off, not enough sincerity and 0 respect from the bride. Something is wrong if you don't care what your friends like and want.
i had no idea bridesmaids and brides had so much drama in america lol. i paid for my bridesmaids' jumpsuits and blessed them to wear sneakers bc some of them just aren't heels girls and that's fine. they looked HELLA cute. rewearable too.
No seriously cute sneakers are so underrated, especially platform ones imo. People think sneakers look dirty or too sporty but like.... Why does it matter? It can look nice!
American wedding culture is insane. Why do you make the bridesmaids pay for the dresses? I’m not gonna be your bridesmaid if you ask me to spend $300 on an ugly dress I’m never gonna wear again. And then I still have all the other wedding guest expenses too. The bridge and groom should pay for the bridesmaid dresses and groomsmen suits. It’s your wedding, if you want them to wear something specific then you pay for it or expect them to not attend if they dislike it.
The "you know what? It's my wedding" has to stop! It's one party, one night. Most people will only remember if the food was good and the drinks icy enough!
I can tell the commenter has never gone through buying a bridesmaids dress that they’ll probably never wear again AND paying to alter it. Then this person goes on to shrug off this reality about people wearing a dress they hate and wearing hair and makeup that doesn’t suit them. It’s so much easier to rent a suit or even wear one you already had and get the accessories because suit colors don’t have a wide range.
To any bride please do not do strapless!! For you or your bridmaids. You spend the whole night hoisting your dress up. Fit will not prevent gravity. Why didnt Brandon say omg I said the wrong color !! This is actually purple.
I've watched a couple of these bridesmaid's episodes, and not once has the bride actually had her dress with her (or even a picture of the bridal gown) for comparison. I think that makes a difference to the often poor choices they make for their attendants' dresses.
I was a bridesmaid in my brother’s wedding and after shipping and tailoring my dress cost about $600. The dress was beautiful at least but as a broke grad student I definitely shed a lot of tears over the price tag
Traditionally you should have one bridesmaid per 25/30 guests otherwise you might as well have everyone standing by the altar with you! 😂 Also could not imagine asking my friends to chalk up $600 for a dress to wear once... and then think they’re being unreasonable when they don’t want to pay it.
I mean she was rude, but i agree with the sentiment that if you don’t want to meet the requirements of a bridesmaid, just be a guest. There’s no shame in rejecting the role of bridesmaid and I think it’s great that she told them from the beginning what her expectations were so they weren’t surprised and had an opportunity to say no
Where I live the bride pays for the bridesmaids dresses. Like it's not even discussed. I've been a bridesmaid twice (once for an older female cousin when I was 16, and then for a younger male cousin. I did become good friends with his wife) and both times I had say in the dress, but the bride, obviously, decided what she wanted. Im pretty sure I paid for my own hair and make up though, but I was given basic instructions, up or down, curled or straight hair, natural make up, etc. You want complete control over how your bridesmaids look? Pay for everything. She probably wouldn't have 15 of them if she was paying though!
Honestly, all brides should set rules before a bridesmaid signs on. My maid of honor thought that she could ignore all my calls, do nothing to help, and still be MOH. Nope. Six days before my wedding, she still didn't have a dress to wear... Then I signed up to be a bridesmaid in a wedding that I didn't realize was going to cost me $5k... I would have told her no right away if she had been clear that it wasn't a normal wedding.
When someone says they're no drama, they're all the drama
Same as "good vibes only" people
That is the truest thing I've read today.
Thank you! I came here to say this. She set herself up for failure there
Yes! That person always BRINGS the drama with her!
"OMG I LOVE THE COLOUR IT'S SO NICE!!!!"
"it's a great pink!"
"Oh yeah actually it's ugly asf you're right"
What the hell girl
She never would've picked anything
@@h.r.9563 She was more concerned with color than with the actual dress
Literally. It's the same dress she liked, he just called it something. No ones gonna be like "omg cute dress the color is amazing!! Oh it's pink? Lmao that shits ugly" tf
I think she changed her mind because after someone perceived it as pink, and she didn’t want pink. So she started seeing it as a bit pink, and got all stuck up on it.
She just wanted a purple dress she just liked if it were purple and i think she would like any purple dress they took
the modern trend of choosing a colour/style and having the bridesmaids wear different dresses around the theme is SO MUCH BETTER than everyone being identical. The bridal party members can choose a dress in their budget, that suits their body, and the bride likes too. Solves so much potential conflict.
And it also looks cuter
This is what I’m doing. They are the most important and loved women in your life. Why would anyone want them to be unhappy? 😭 i want my bridesmaids to look in the mirror and think they look amazing, beautiful, confident, excited for the day, not ugly, uncomfortable, dreading the idea that they’re having photos taken when they’re not feeling confident and knowing that those photos are going to be on display in peoples houses and on social media and in albums forever. So sad :( I love the idea that all their smiles in my photos will be genuine ♥️
Yesssss
This is exactly what I did! Gave them the color, length, and accessory colors and let them go to town with it. Some of my maids are seamstresses and didnt have the extra money for a fancy dress, so they made their own for only about $15. And some of them bought bulk accessories on amazon and saved money that way. Everything looked amazing day of and no one was stressed in the process!
@@ChibiChunks that sounds amaaaazing!
If she can’t commit when purple is called pink, I hope she can commit when fiancé is called husband
😂
She's not committing to the husband but the bank account
What
@@melrobertson2743 no
@@Zombina638
Your pfp I-
Is it that from the manhwa called Painter of The Night?
"Do I have 15 friends?". I feel you Luke.
i have like.. 3
The "ya I have 15 friends".. I don't feel you Luke 😂
I feel like i have 15 acquaintances .. not sure i have 15 best friends to be bridesmaids 😅
@@anapalomino3587 girl same
@@andiestrellitam3 ya lol i feel you
it's so confusing that these brides are like "it's my wedding I don't care at all about what my friends feel". Like what is more important, your vision, or actually having these friends after your wedding??
Exactly!! Plus I would hate to look back at my wedding and have memories of the fighting and anger. The pictures might come out nice but the memories won't, and I think that's more important.
@@Savannah- it's 100% more important. Otherwise you'll have to look back on your pictures and see the girls that used to be your friends
I feel like there should be a middle ground where the bridesmaids agree on certain stuff like themes, colours, etc and the bride respects if her bridesmaids are uncomfortable with certain styles or prices
@@mochibunnyan6556 Yeah! I don't want the bride to be some kind of pushover and give in and get something she doesn't like. The bride should totally have a vision, and have colour, length, and vibe in mind, but if bridesmaids are uncomfortable with the fit or price point of the dress, the bride needs to adjust a little.
Tbh thou you shouldn’t be having friendship-ending arguments with your bridesmaids either over a goddamn dress, both parties are just as bad as each other if they’re willing to let a bad dress choice ruin years of friendship *shrug*
In my country bridesmaids are not a thing in weddings so I'm always shocked by the entitlement of the brides. The bride should pay for the dresses if she wants people to have a certain dress. Even for my best friend I couldn't spend more than 100€ on a dress I'm never really going to wear again. It's insane to me that they don't ask the bridemaides if they have a budget/respect it.
it is just a whole american wedding industry that is a scam tbh
If they at least were dresses someone could wear again to other events, I could maybe see asking them to pay up to a certain budget (maybe $300) but if it's more expensive, they better pay the difference
For a few years I believed that it was the bride and groom who payed for the dresses cause even as a kid having someone pay for a dress you want them to wear is kinda shameless.
@bribripot yup i totally agree with you! i think the same color scheme but different dresses it's so much better! that way everyone can wear something they like and also are comfortable with! everyone has a different style and body types so it's such a better way of doing things
@@amandab722 It's still a "proper" wedding if you don't go by american wedding culture rules. As a German I really don't get this obsession with following every single expectation for a cliché cookiecutter wedding as I see it portrayed in American media. All those added frills aren't what makes a wedding valid, or special. Don't let anyone tell you this is the only way to get "properly" married :) No one goes broke for a wedding over here, and we still have beautiful, romantic ceremonies and celebrations.
Yikes, if a friend asked me to be in her wedding and treated me like these brides treat their friends, I would tell them politely that I don't wish to participate
Yeah same this was horrible
nah fuck politeness after she was talking to them like that.
@@donnamoydenton6156 😁😁
But also, they’ve managed to be FRIENDS for so long and in this particular case, she emailed them the rules. Seeing that and knowing her personality, they could’ve politely rejected to be bridesmaids because they can’t follow those rules, but they still want to be by her side on her big day even as a guest. They know it’s her way or no way because there’s no higher way, they can’t moan about it later 🤷🏼♀️
EDIT: talking about the first bride
@@1LauraMeow Yeah all of these people complaining have never been married or at least never done a wedding themself. It's extremely stressful and puts pressure on the bride a lot. All of the moaners sound so fucking stupid lmao.
I remember binge watching all these SYTTD bridesmaids version and hating all the dresses I have seen lol
Ikr
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Tell me about it! They are really dull, boring, and not creative. I don't understand why anyone would pay that much for them. The fabric doesn't have much of a color texture. Just one color... where is the sheer, embroidered/beaded fabric? Monochromatic styles? They are not that imaginative
@@roserain7034 you put down exactly my thoughts about these dresses. I have seen small businesses make amazing dresses than this multi million corporate sell
People say they are like that so they don’t overshadow the bride but dude, you don’t have to make your friends look ugly and remember themselves in a fugly dress 😂
I asked my only bridesmaid- my sister, to pick out whatever dress she wanted in any color of blue. And that was it... told my other friends to come and have fun. The 15 bridesmaids gives me anxiety
Did same! It’s supposed to be a fun loving day, why make it crazy?
@@justmek3395 exactly, it's stressful enough without 30 people to wrangle around for the day.
I genuinely thought that all brides paid for their bridesmaids dresses because why would someone pay for a dress that you won't even wear outside the wedding. I also discussed with my friends that if we ever get married we just pick out dresses that go with the color scheme and theme of the wedding and just have fun, I personally have the dream of just walking around a mcdonalds in a ball gown just to weird people out.
@@dio6586 unfortunately the bridesmaid always pays in my experience. I've had to pay over $600 for a dress, hair and makeup as a bridesmaid, and it is never worth it.
@@katej7135 I’ve turned down being a bridesmaid three times because I can’t just shell out $500+. Some have been understanding, some haven’t, but the costs of that are just insane.
I worked in the wedding industry in college and it’s such a scam. Salespeople encourage this “bridezilla”-ness because it causes folks to spend WAY more money to get everything “perfect.”
It’s ok to say it’s “my way or the highway” when YOU are paying for your bridesmaids’ dresses, but how the hell can you say that and expect them to cough up half a grand for YOUR wedding??
WHY do people do the strapless, babydoll waist with a long skirt? It’s a potato sack. It does nothing for anyone’s figure.
I think the proper name for a babydoll waist is an empire waist.
I feel like long empire waist works for more ethereal forest/ historical themed weddings and only if it's in powdery light colors.
In case one of the bridesmaids gets pregnant, which happens a lot. You usually buy these dresses in advance.
LITERALLY
Empire waistlines look good on certain figures. Also depends a lot on the skirt. (Skirts that floof are good and bring joy)
"It was in the email!" No ma'am, according to you $500 was in the email and you can't expect 15 ppl to all be ok with going $100+ over budget
I have been asked to be a bridesmaid four times and each time I lost a friendship over it. Every one of them was a bridezilla. One of them wanted me to pay $1500 for a bridesmaid dress. And that’s one of the cheapest thing she was going to have us purchase. I had to put my foot down when she asked me if I could get rid of my ethnic hair for a day. My so-called “ethnic” hair was my natural Afro.
Sounds like good riddance, honestly. I’m so sorry you had to experience that.
“…could get rid of my ‘ethnic hair’ for a *day* …” Oh good god 🤦♀️
I’m sorry you had to experience that
I'm Russian and I simply don't get it. Where do all these bridezillas come from? Is it some weird ritual? How can one treat her friends - I mean, free adults - like the girl in the video or your friend who asked you to change your hair / to buy a $1500 dress? Don't they see things like that are remembered?
damn... ALL four times????
1500$ is so much money, I couldn't even spend that money for myself rn
I think a good rule of thumb would be: never agree to be anybody's _honorary_ bridesmaid.
I love it when these shows give off such strong 2008 vibes with the fashön and the heavy smoky eye and the sperm eyebrows, and then when you see the credits it was actually filmed in 2018 👀 (idk about the date of this episode in particular but it happens a lot lol)
Yeah americans are kinda outdated
Bruh, I honestly thought they were filmed in 2008 or 2012 at the latest, not freaking 2018 lol.
maybe they tweezed their brows so much they don't grow back anymore xD
THE SPERM BROWS LMAO YES
2018?!?!?! I CANNOT RN 😭
ok but has there ever been a nice bridemaid dress? at best they're just not ugly
That's why I'm only having bridesmaids on my wedding if I have the money to buy them expensive (brand) dresses, cus bridesmaid's dresses all look tacky or cheap.
My bridesmaids’ dresses were pretty! Same with my SIL’s wedding, the bridesmaid dress I wore was really pretty. They were classy evening gown type dresses
I was actually in a wedding and the dresses were absolutely beautiful you just have to look in the right place lol
There are pretty bridesmaids dresses... just not at Kleinfeld's!
Mine was so pretty. It had such an ethereal vibe to it. Plus the sash around the waist could transform it into a different looking dress. All 5 of my sisters and I had the same dress, but the sash made them all look different... my other sister’s bridesmaid dress was really chic. If I ever have to go to a fancy dinner, I can wear that baby
I honestly don't think i could be friends with someone who valued the short span of their wedding and their "vision" over my feelings. Like of course I will wear the dress you like, and I won't tread of your toes, but as my friend I would appreciate you being budget conscious and also conscious to my body type etc.
I 100% agree with you. One thing that stuck out was the second girls “no tan lines” like what? How do you even cover those up if you want everyone in a strapless dress?
@@OhNobie fake tan. isn’t that hard to cover up tan marks tbh
@Kai oh great, another thing to pay for
I think it’s hard to accommodate for body type when you have multiple girls and you’re trying to fit a single style of dress. But I do like the approach to allowing various styles but with the condition that it has to be the same material and color.
@@Laura-Yu Yeah I agree- like even if the dress isn't the most flattering as long as it suits the whole group best. The thing that really made me sad was how expensive the dress was and some girls couldn't afford it
In the first part, I just don’t understand why the guy didn’t try to save the moment saying “oh my, why did ‘pink’ slip out of my mouth, it’s definitely not pink, I’m sorry, didn’t have good coffee today, haha :) “ or something. It was such a gorgeous dress complimenting the body so well!
i honestly think it was for reality show drama :x
Or offer a bulk price in a custom color...
"Lori is definitely into small government" SENT ME
„I think she is just scared to make a decision“ Well sir, you think? the girl has 15 bridesmaids 😂
I would rather get my bridesmaid dress from amazon compared to these
Even Aliexpress is better 😂
Especially for such a large group.
My sister actually got our bridesmaids dresses from Amazon!
They are old videos, the styles changed...
Right...?
@@Reggie_la sadly no
"if you can't get the dress just be a guest" SENT ME LMFAO 💀💀💀
Not every dress is going to flatter every body. Various sizes and body types will affect how the dress looks, colors, the way it hangs etc. if you best friend is a size 22 and your sister is a size 4....good luck.
mm, i think it’s better to choose a colour and general style and let them loose in a store. that way they can choose what they want and what looks good on them
@@shaeflatt8428 I'm a big fan of that approach. Like as long as it fits the colors and vibe great! some variation also adds more visual interest and makes the group look less tacky.
@@shaeflatt8428 True. My Mom was a bridesmaid and the bride only told them to pick the same color and she let the bridesmaids decide the style of the dresses. I think it's more efficient and practical that way since the bridesmaids get to pick the style they want and not have an argument about it lol
That fuchsia tutu thing with the drop waist nobody was going to look good in that.
In principle yes but the odds are the dresses won’t complement one another especially levels of formality and sheens
I’m lucky, my sister was adamant that her bridesmaids wear dresses that wouldn’t break our budgets and that we could wear again. She actually found our dresses at DressBarn of all places and I think per person the dress was maybe like $40-$60, it’s been like 5 years I don’t remember. They were tea length, charcoal black, sort of 50’s in that it was a pretty slim waist and then it has the slightly proofed A-line skirt, and it has these beautiful turquoise flowers on it. Her wedding colors were cream, charcoal black, and turquoise so these dresses fit perfectly. Every girl looked good in her dress, I definitely wore mine multiple times later (I haven’t worn it recently, due to putting on weight 😫). My sister was pretty good at having a beautiful wedding on a bit of a budget. She actually made her wedding dress and veil (both our grandma’s were seamstresses so she picked up some skills from them), so she was big into making sure we didn’t break our budgets to have a beautiful wedding.
That sounds really lovely
That whole thing sounds amazing
Sales Associate: the dress has a drop waist..
Luke: **puts hand over his mouth** oh my god a drop waist 🤢🥴🤮
Honestly this is exactly what I needed this morning. Lacking coffee but Luke’s commentary is providing me life.
@@Olivia-uz9bc honestly it’s like 6:40 pm for me . Wild how someone’s day is just starting😂
@@Olivia-uz9bc haha yup! It’s currently 10:42a and I’m in the middle of my work day lol 😂
It's 11:43 pm for me.. I'm trying to sleep here 😂
I love how you guys are having such a lively conversation over the concept of time zones
@@Olivia-uz9bc sorry for the late reply 😂I live in India
I picked the bridesmaid dress color and asked everyone to pick a dress in chiffon fabric in that color that was their style. We made sure to use a website that had options with very reasonable price points. I'd never ask a bridesmaid to drop even $150 on a dress, let alone $500+.
real MVP 🙌🏿
danggg drop the website name!
@@Katspearl I used Azazie (but also check Cocomelody and Birdy Grey. David's Bridal runs sales and clearance often, so they're an option too. Azazie and Cocomelody also do affordable wedding gowns.)
Looking back, the hella plucked eyebrow look was NOT it lol
Same I hope it never comes back into fashion
My mom is still recovering from it lmao
At the time I hated it I was so happy when it went out of fashion
@@clementine1827 I feel like it will come back in a couple of years, but I won't be participating lmao
@@clementine1827 It's already coming back with the low rise jeans y2k hahahahhh
I prefer the UK way of buying bridesmaids dresses the bribe pays... if she is choosing it then she needs to pay for it.... I don't get the USA way.
I agree. I'm in US, I've been a bridesmaid twice, and both times the brides picked out and paid for the dresses. But they were both very nice dresses, in my opinion lol I like them both very much lol
The US way is spreading - I've been a bridesmaid twice in Australia, once the dress was paid for by the bride (and I looked good in it and liked it) and the other I had to pay huuundreds for (which made me look like a corpse).
I’m in the UK, I’ve told the bridesmaids they can wear whatever dress they want from JJsHouse as long as they’re all the same colour. They can have whatever design they like, they don’t have to wear the same as one another, as long as they’re happy, but I have asked them to pay for their own. I can’t afford to buy 6 dresses, my wedding is not going to be expensive. But they are happy that they get to choose their own that compliments their body, style and will be likely to wear again :)
US citizens don't get US way.
I think the bride should pay for the dress every time...but at the very least, if the bride picks out the dress, they should pay for it. I'd never pay for a dress someone else chose.
If you're so anti-pink, maybe don't pick a color like purple that's easily confused for pink, apparently. Christ.
I would love a video of you reviewing 2000's disney fashion! The cheetah girls, sharpay, zenon. I have never needed anything more
Now I need to see this too!
YES PLEASE
I feel like the "Does it matter?" is only true if the couple is paying for the bridesmaid dresses. If you have to shell out $200 for a glorified prom dress it better be something you might wear more than once.
I’m so happy the whole American bridesmaid thing isn’t a thing in my country. You typically have one or maybe two close friends/sisters who help the bride with all the small details throughout the day. I would carry mints, the bride’s lipstick, needle and white thread, hair pins, etc. in my clutch, check her before she enters the church (then enter when people face the altar again) and help her to the restroom if she has a large dress. I’m not supposed to stand out from the other guests, I’m supposed to blend in and help discreetly
Really, that makes you happy? Different cultures have different stuff like ...
@@halloween482 I’m American and it would make me happy. American weddings are whack. We studied them in sociology. Traditions for tradition sake. Waste of money. The white dress isn’t even an American idea either.
there is so much shade coming from the bride. Did anyone else catch the bride say "do you have to walk like that?" to her friend?
That was so awful.
Sometimes it feels like the brides chooses ugly dresses for the bridesmaids so they shine even more xd
I never understood that because i just assume the bride has poor taste
Some brides totally do this. All it does is reveal how insecure they are.
When Luke paused at 4:29 lmaooo the way the background is blurred with her in the middle giving that face reaction, honestly reminds me of a meme
YES!!! The girl in couple’s court meme lol
Same
It reminds me of that mr krabs meme 😂
Tbh if I was a bridesmaid and my friend treated me like this....I would question our friendship a bit
I would question whether I'm willing to stay friends at all.
Question a bit?
Girls y'all need to run from that wedding. Literally just be a guest, you'll have more fun
I did my wedding on an EXTREME budget (some of the dresses on Say Yes are more expensive than my entire wedding), and for the bridesmaid dresses I had everyone buy their dresses from the same website- all white, and made from dyeable fabrics. I bought dyes in the wedding colors and we all got together and tie-dyed all the dresses, as well as ties for the groomsmen. The event of coloring all the dresses was the bachelorette party and everything worked out amazingly well!
That sounds amazing
First bridesmaid group is about to have the last laugh when they drop out of the wedding and eat all the food the bride paid for at the reception as guests lmao
Bride: Treating her friends like shit and forcing them to fit into her ✨ vision✨
Bride's vision: *trash*
Julie reminds me of that girl that would always be like, “I hate drama, it’s horrible.” then proceed to ruin every friend group she’s a part of.
“Oh no ma’am” sis was not trying to be bothered with that dress after she heard that price 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ExpressVPN has been paying Luke’s rent since forever😂
They have been paying everybody’s rent and the rest of the people have NordVPN paying theirs 🤣
Man if I had 15 bridesmaids I would have just said “this color and a dress similar to this style. Get what ever you can afford and feel comfortable in” boom problem solved.
Luke- “I’m sorry I shouldn’t have said that”
Also Luke- “but I said it”
"Rule #1: No drama."
*arbitrarily imposes a hierarchy among her bridesmaids*
That British accent during the ad break was haunting
Purple is my favorite color and people ALWAYS mistake shades of purple for pink or red, it’s actually really frustrating. People be having your whole vision messed up
I mean, I've told friends that I'd love to support them on their big day as a normal guest rather than bridesmaid because I don't want to buy a bridesmaid dress I'll only wear once. 👗🙄
I've already been bridesmaid for the only two people on the planet I'd ever do it for. And I was grinning and bearing it the whoooole time for both of them. I don't even know if I want to be a guest again!
@@SockDrawerDemon I agreed to be a bridesmaid for my stepsister, only to later find out (after dresses were purchased, of course) that none of the bridesmaids were standing with the bride at the altar. 😵I was literally in one wedding photo of the whole thing. Talk about extra pointless. 🙄 I think we as a society need to tell people that it is not just an honor, it's also a BURDEN to be a bridesmaid, so brides aren't compelled to ask a bunch of people to be bridesmaid. 😤 I feel like half the time, brides are just trying not to offend anybody.
"Lori is definitely into small government..." 😂
As somebody who isn't from the US, it is really hard for me to understand this culture around the bridesmaid's dresses. It looks so uncomfortable for everyone involved. Where I live the bridesmaids just wear whatever they want. The bride doesn't even choose the color (as long as it isn't completely white and thus competes with the brides dress).
500 bucks for a bridesmaid dress is outrageous. I spend 20 when I attended my older brothers wedding and it was on sale. Send a few choices to my sister in law and she liked all of them and not a single one of them was over 50 bucks. We only had a color palette though instead of actually having to dress in the same dress. Our body types were way too different for that and so were our skin tones and hair colors. I'm skinny as fuck, my sister in laws sister is a good bit shorter than me and a lot curvier. There was no way in hell to make the same dress work on both of us EVER. In the end we both found something that worked and was flattering to our body types.
Think she only spend around 50 bucks too as she bought her dress secondhand.
not Luke calling Lori a republican 😭💀
I literally had to pause the vid to catch my breath lmaooaoooo
Please. Mr. Luke. You have to see the 'say yes' episode with the full Swarovski skirt and "million dollar" dresses.
"It's my wedding You will do ANYTHING I tell you!!!" Sounds like Eric Cartman at his birthday party.... chill girls
Rather then get my friends to wear a dress they don't like, spend a lot of money buying multiple dresses or even ask them to pay I'd just give them a common theme. I'd be like everyone please wear blue or everyone wear florals.
when my mom was a bridesmaid in the 80s everyone was given the same dress pattern and they had to SEW their own dress.
When my mum got married in 2000 my gran made the bridesmaid dresses for the 3 bridesmaids and my mum and dad paid for the fabric.
Honestly the whole thing in the US with bridesmaids having to wear matching dresses the bride chooses and they have to pay for…. Like why? Why all of this pressure. Relax. As long as they’re not wearing white, who cares? This kind of stuff doesn’t happen everywhere. Also: we call bridesmaids and groomsmen „marriage witnesses“. They can wear whatever they want. We also haven’t always done the bachelor(ette) parties, traditionally, we do polter evenings, which aren’t divided by gender. On this evening, the couple smashes old dishes because shards are supposed to bring luck. This is one of the few things I’m really looking forwards in the future marriages I’m going to attend. Marriage pranks are also quite common in some parts of our country, where the friends of the couple play a little prank on them, usually after the wedding party.
I don’t understand the drama about bridesmaids dresses. If I would celebrate my wedding and invite all my loved ones, with the most important people (besides my husband and family of course) right by my side, I‘d want them to have a good time. Them feeling comfortable and confident and able to enjoy the day with me would be so much more important to me than aesthetic. I‘d rather have a wild, messy and happy wedding than miserable, but aesthetically pleasing guests. It‘s not my day, it’s our day!
That last bride was too crazy. I don't usually appreciate sassy bridesmaids but that one was totally right.
In my country the bride pays for everything, which is only fair. Imagine the bridesmaids having to buy their own dresses. In the movie Bridesmaids, the shopping scene makes so much more sense now.
These two episodes are filled with baddie iconic energy like every person in these two episodes was so iconic 😂
I'm getting married in 2 weeks! It's a very small wedding of 18 people. I told my friends where whatever you want. It's going to be hot so flip flops and t-shirt of you want. Even my dress is tea length! I don't care about everything being exactly matching and being picturesque. What's going to make a good picture is them being there and being happy.
A bridezilla doesn't dictate things like makeup, unless you don't want red lipstick. No one should have to pay $600 a shot for a bridesmaid's dress. The 2nd bridezilla has no taste.
"no drama" *creates hierarchy*
Nah nah nah the first bride is out of POCKET. I may love you as a friend…but I’m not putting out no $6-700 for a dress. I will dismiss myself as a bridesmaid so fast frfr
The cultural difference is stark when I see these videos. In our culture, there is no such thing as honorary maid and our wedding are pretty extravagant. Most of the dresses in this show aren't deserving of it's price... like no offense. Super plain, boring, dull. I have brought a detailed, full of beads, peachy dress for 186$. Spending 500$ is almost the price of a bride dress not her bridesmaids.
We also don't have color scheme. Everyone wears within their budget (since they are buying). As long as it doesn't look like the bride dress, you can even wear white (I've once seen friend/family of the bride wearing a two piece white dress). However, it's pretty rare to see someone wear white so I guess everyone avoids it.
I hate the wearing white for bridesmaids; I think Kate Middleton proved why NOT to have a bridesmaid in white.
Anyway, my mom told me many years ago that a bride who allowed or chose white, didn't understand the traditions involved with weddings and , "didn't even have taste in their mouths," if they insisted. What a great little Southern expression!
I was a bridesmaid once, and the experience ranks as the stupidest, most useless thing I've ever done in my entire life. I'd rather be a guest, unless I can get out of that too.
This was brilliant, so funny!
Probably 90 percent of the drama on this show could be avoided if the bride paid for the dresses and there was no distinction between bridesmaids, but then Lori wouldn't need to comment and we need that!
Price is important! I don't care how much I love the bride if I can't afford it: bride gets it for me, I become a guest, or I become a ghost.
luke could u do a video about prom dresses? like dos/don'ts, what u like vs what to avoid?
They said it couldn't be done but the belted tulle strapless dress has two waists! A modern marvel
These people don't know what friendship is, I don't see any sincere relationship between these girls. And also asking someone to pay for a dress they don't like and is more than they are ready to pay is just horrible. Too much vanity and show-off, not enough sincerity and 0 respect from the bride. Something is wrong if you don't care what your friends like and want.
OMG that enlarged cheetah print cardigan from H&M!!! I had that in 2013 and I wore it EVERY. FRIDAY. NIGHT. Oh, the memories.
i had no idea bridesmaids and brides had so much drama in america lol. i paid for my bridesmaids' jumpsuits and blessed them to wear sneakers bc some of them just aren't heels girls and that's fine. they looked HELLA cute. rewearable too.
No seriously cute sneakers are so underrated, especially platform ones imo. People think sneakers look dirty or too sporty but like.... Why does it matter? It can look nice!
@@exist4046 Y E S none of those creepy heels pretending to be sneakers either. straight up crispy white low top sneaks.
American wedding culture is insane. Why do you make the bridesmaids pay for the dresses? I’m not gonna be your bridesmaid if you ask me to spend $300 on an ugly dress I’m never gonna wear again. And then I still have all the other wedding guest expenses too. The bridge and groom should pay for the bridesmaid dresses and groomsmen suits. It’s your wedding, if you want them to wear something specific then you pay for it or expect them to not attend if they dislike it.
And you didn’t disappoint! Please do more!! Can’t get enough Lori!
The "you know what? It's my wedding" has to stop! It's one party, one night. Most people will only remember if the food was good and the drinks icy enough!
15 bride maids? I don’t even have 15 friends....
I can tell the commenter has never gone through buying a bridesmaids dress that they’ll probably never wear again AND paying to alter it. Then this person goes on to shrug off this reality about people wearing a dress they hate and wearing hair and makeup that doesn’t suit them. It’s so much easier to rent a suit or even wear one you already had and get the accessories because suit colors don’t have a wide range.
I literally SQUEALED WITH DELIGHT this morning when I saw this had posted!
To any bride please do not do strapless!! For you or your bridmaids. You spend the whole night hoisting your dress up. Fit will not prevent gravity. Why didnt Brandon say omg I said the wrong color !! This is actually purple.
THANK GODT in my bf's gay wedding I was the only girl in the line so he let me have free range over what I wore so I didn't have to go thru this
I've watched a couple of these bridesmaid's episodes, and not once has the bride actually had her dress with her (or even a picture of the bridal gown) for comparison. I think that makes a difference to the often poor choices they make for their attendants' dresses.
The second bride just wanted to disrespect the girls, and she just find the perfect excuse: being the bride.
“It’s not Prada, it’s nada” LMAO
This show is so early 2000s lol I don't think I've ever liked any of the dresses, I just watch it for the drama
Love that intro music. Feels excactly like 2021.
i wish luke would sit like 4cm lower because the sweater would line up with the background- how awesome would that be
I dont even understand why people would still agree to be in peoples weddings if theyre going to try to force you to do things is this way
I was a bridesmaid in my brother’s wedding and after shipping and tailoring my dress cost about $600. The dress was beautiful at least but as a broke grad student I definitely shed a lot of tears over the price tag
everytime you tell the dress store your budget they act like its a minimum
Traditionally you should have one bridesmaid per 25/30 guests otherwise you might as well have everyone standing by the altar with you! 😂
Also could not imagine asking my friends to chalk up $600 for a dress to wear once... and then think they’re being unreasonable when they don’t want to pay it.
The fact that the floral dress looks exactly like one of my old bedsheets 😭😭
I mean she was rude, but i agree with the sentiment that if you don’t want to meet the requirements of a bridesmaid, just be a guest. There’s no shame in rejecting the role of bridesmaid and I think it’s great that she told them from the beginning what her expectations were so they weren’t surprised and had an opportunity to say no
Where I live the bride pays for the bridesmaids dresses. Like it's not even discussed.
I've been a bridesmaid twice (once for an older female cousin when I was 16, and then for a younger male cousin. I did become good friends with his wife) and both times I had say in the dress, but the bride, obviously, decided what she wanted. Im pretty sure I paid for my own hair and make up though, but I was given basic instructions, up or down, curled or straight hair, natural make up, etc.
You want complete control over how your bridesmaids look? Pay for everything. She probably wouldn't have 15 of them if she was paying though!
Honestly, all brides should set rules before a bridesmaid signs on. My maid of honor thought that she could ignore all my calls, do nothing to help, and still be MOH. Nope. Six days before my wedding, she still didn't have a dress to wear... Then I signed up to be a bridesmaid in a wedding that I didn't realize was going to cost me $5k... I would have told her no right away if she had been clear that it wasn't a normal wedding.
your're really blessing us with these frequent uploads, damn