I like how he's coming from a place of love with his criticisms. He actually plays the games and understands the "rule of cool" while being a firearms expert. 👍 fun series to watch
Yeah, I like this video more than most of the others purely becuase it is just Jonathan talking about a game he enjoys. Same reason I watched the Left 4 Dead video twice.
Chainsaw came around cause the Locust hide was too thick, the blades broke most of the time unless you had a lot of momentum. Tai improvised in a hardware shop where he killed a drone with a power saw, where Marcus went to his father (head of weapons development ) and asked if it was possible. Thus the MK 2 was born
that is correct the lancer mk1's bayonet aka the retro lancer was pretty much useless against the locust's thick hide and would either bounce off or break, also the small mag size and total ammo carried proved to not be sufficient for prolonged firefights
@@theoutlawking9123 Yup! Karen Traviss did a series of Gears of War novels that are actually quite good and do a magnificent job of fleshing out the world and the characters, including one that detailed Marcus' time in prison leading up to Dom breaking him out of jail and what exactly he did to end up there. I think Gears 3 resonated with me even stronger than it would have normally because I had a lot of anticipation of it because it not only resolved the plot of the games, but several plots in the novels. IIRC Traviss was also the lead writer for Gears 3. Anyways the novels are Aspho Fields, Jacinto's Remnant, Anvil Gate, and Coalition's End. The prison novel is The Slab.
They actually made a blueprint of the internals of the lancer, the really neat part is that the magazine is U shaped because it has to leave room for the chainsaw
The story of the MK 3 is that Marcus modified his own custom Lancers in Gears 4, which included a few improvements such as the improved sights and a carved wooden stock. Between Gears 4 and 5, however, Baird ended up using these new modifications to upgrade the COG's existing guns from the MK 2 to the Mk 3 (though Marcus still favours the one he made himself).
Did you mind that starting in Gears 2, the barrel extends beyond the chainsaw? Feels like that'd make it more likely to snag on whatever you're sawing through.
You don't really cut through bodies in Gears 2 if I remember right, it still behaves like a "traditional" bayonet just with some more flare and I even played through Gears 2 chainsawing whenever I got the chance to. Even took that into Gears 3 and actually got chainsawed in return by one of the hive guards towards the end of the campaign just not expecting Locust to have Lancers.
I love how naturally he flows from "the buttstock is too short but looks like it might extend" to "they've been fighting for years without a buttstock and so they choose not to use it"; as implausible the situation is realistically, that sort of reading of consistent internal logic tickles my lore pedant brain, even as someone without personal investment into the series. Fantastic as always, y'all!
Killzone's one of the few games that had more "realistic" sci fi gun lineups. Then again, most of the Killzone guns are based around being kitbashed from real-world firearms...
On the subject of the GL - it kind of reminds me of those Anti-tank rockets that launch 'horizontally', then shoot up in the air before coming down on 'top' of the Enemy that has been laser targeted. A 'precision guided' anti-personnel launcher similar in concept to a Javelin to compare to more real world weaponry...
To note on the retro lancer and the bayonette.. is because they bayonette (I'm spelling it wrong most likely) is because the knfe kept breaking off in locust hides hence the upgrade to the chainsaw
Since it comes from French "baïonnette" spelling it as bayonette is not completely wrong, the more common spelling is bayonet though. Either way does not really matter that much in my opinion.
The only reason I can think of why they haven't covered it yet is because it takes a lot of time investment to unlock the guns. I think Dave already plays Destiny 2 so its not a big problem for him there. I'm not sure though
@@dormikdelron i think that it's simpler to get guns in warframe, since you just have to either buy the weapons with platinum or buy the blueprint and grind the resources and craft it, which takes on average 12 hours to craft, not including getting the resources
@@dormikdelron There's a _lot_ of guns in Warframe that don't need all that much of a time investment to get, and most of the low mastery guns are more 'traditional' in their form and function then the higher level mastery stuff. TBF though there's a _lot_ of guns that need a lot of time to unlock, either through rep grinding or material grinding that he wouldn't get to see unless they're already on the way to unlock them.
Skallagrim did that a little while ago. It wasn't too much of an _'in-depth'_ analysis, but, at least he did it. Kruber & Saltzpyre got the best weapons, honestly.
Honestly, I'd say that only really applies to the first game, the second and third had a lot of effort put into their setpieces and story. Haven't played 4 or 5, though.
In the latest installment teaser trailer, E-Day, Marcus has a retro lancer and he does indeed release/take off the knife during it. Granted it's super quick and in shadow, but it happens and maybe you can do it in game 🤷🏻♂
This series works so well BECAUSE Jonathan was already a video game fan and it shows. He critiques the game guns but understands the historic significance of the designs and from gameplay balance perspective. Love this series and Jonathan's real world insight!
@@fuckedupbypiplup4460because it rips some of the wood into very tiny pieces instead of cutting it. If you don’t remove pieces of the tree, any actual cutting blade won’t get far before they’re stuck.
@@capturedflamejust so you know, the lanzor is the size of some of the heaviest lmg and the metal seems to be quite durable since in the lore it can litteraly chainsaw litteral armor able to bounce off 5.56 bullets like nothing
@@capturedflame it doesn’t seem to be blade breaking, since somebody said that you’d need a running start to impale them. I guess it’s like having a very thin sheet of steel all across your body. But I am not knowledgeable enough in Gears Of War lore, blade and saw dynamics or the theoretical science of alien tissue to know whether it makes sense.
Jonathan should break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3
The reason the lancers don't have buttstock is because all the people in this game compensate for recoil with their thick, beefy arms and their refrigerator of an armour. Even the women are Amazonian.
You did mention the Mark III Lancer getting rid of the weird magazine arm and actually gaining ejection ports but didn’t mention the bizarre proportions of the magazines themselves? They’re gigantic, especially compared to the ejected brass or the size of the ejection ports which gives an idea of the size of the cartridges they’re supposed to hold. Does the thing hold multiple stacks of ammunition as well as being stacked front to back? The magazines on the Lancer series are just weird.
I would love to see him react to Generation Zero It's a pretty niche unpopular (very underrated) game so I'll explain the game real quick It's a first person open world shooter set in 1980's Sweden It's a vast open world where you fight robots with all kinds of cold war era weapons But alot of the guns are really stylized and I would love to see his reaction
i think it's odd that more games do not employ some sort of reloading minigme. it's great way to do things and the folks who invented it were happy to share the idea with other developers. if i ever create a shooter, rest assured it will have a dynamic reloading system, a la Gears!
The motion captures of the game was done by a Vietnam and world war II vet. They also help around the shakiness and feeling of a actual combat. They even film themselves using Nerf guns simulating how they fire and how to properly take cover. I know all of this because I used to have the limited edition copy of gears of war 1 with a inside look of the game DVD.
The Lancer will look better as a bullpup with the blade extending FAR beyond the gun muzzle, giving its wielders a de facto buttstock that doubles as a two-handed chainsword hilt, and its blade LOT more reach.
"dont know if in game this is meant to be a weapon in development as the war is On-going." which war do You refer to, Jonathan? the Pendulum wars, the Locust war, the Lambent Pandemic, or the Swarm war?
So they don't tall about it in the gears universe as the games primarily drop you into the more interesting time of the universe. Your standard cog soldier from G1 and G3 were very bulky and for the older soldiers it definitely showed. This cones during the long pendulum war with a portion of the COG hierchy focusing on research into creating supersoldiers. One of these projects was a steroid compound stim for trainees and led to soldiers have heavily augmented strength. This coupled with the older proto cog armor being incredibly heavy and durable with the lighter variant chest peice being incredibly heavy, led to the older soldiers being incredibly bulky with enhanced reflexes. Later soldiers wich were streamlined were given a watered down compound and lighter mass produced armor. This added muscle and durability allowed soldiers to fire low caliber weapons like the lancers with relative ease. Even allowing them to fire the 70. Caliber revolver and carry extremely heavy weapons with ease. In the later games of G3 G4 and G5 soldiers went away from the genetic alteration in opt for use of technology to supplement forces and gear with heavy ordinance being handled by M2 Dee-Bees.
They didn’t change the bayonet to a chainsaw because of technology upgrades but because the locust skin was so thick and hard the bayonet would have a hard time going through it
Trying to think of how that ejection mechanism could work on the MK 3: 1. Bolt come back, and the spent case is pushed horizontally into a tube. 2. The next round is fired, and gas pushes the previous spent casing back to the ejection port. 3. When the bolt comes back after the second round, it hits a lever that kicks the case out the side (maybe those little cutouts in the port visible at 12:29)
Awesome analysis of the Lancer. I never noticed they removed the magazine holder arm thingy. Escape From Tarkov just added the PKP and PKM GPMGs and SVT/AVT rifles. The animations look raaather good. Would be cool to see yer opinion on them :)
Maybe the low recoil could be explained by a constant recoil system like the one in the Ultimax light machine gun developed by James (Jim) Sullivan. Forgotten weapons or maybe it was InrangeTV did an episode where they interviewed him about it, and fired it full auto with one hand!
You forgot to include the modified lancer from GoW 4, wich in my opinion is the coolest looking. It has some sort of mg42 wooden shoulder stock, looks very solid
I think it would've been neat to touch on Marcus's custom lancer from Gears 4- he has four, and what do they all feature? Wooden buttstocks. High-grade wood I imagine, all things considered. Probably how the Lancer developed into Gears 5.
Pretty sure that's not too far off, since COG soldiers are actually genetically modified to add onto their already robust physique. Then add onto that how bulky their armour is, and a stock actually gets in the way.
Great video as usual! Would love to see Jonathan cover the guns of Enlisted in the future! So many cool prototypes and experimental weapons in the game!
I'd be totally fine with the GoW reloading mini-game being included in other shooters, both 1st and 3rd person. It's a really nonintrusive but immersive gameplay mechanic.
I think the Lancer GL is supposed to be more of a Lancer Mk4 than a Mk3 with the GL attachment. The overall body is a different shape and it has a higher rate of fire and ammo capacity. Also a shame that Jonathan didn't mention the Pike 40mm Mini Missile that Raytheon is making. It doesn't work on the M203 because it's very long, but on stuff like the M320 and EGLM it works well, and apparently is even compatible with the classic M79.
The thing in Gears that is still a bit of a question mark for me is that they use the M1 clip as their ammo icon. A very specific weapon's means of reloading, whilst most games use a generic line of cartridges, a magazine icon (usually curved AK-style or STANAG-style), etc. The M1 Garand clip is specific to just the M1 Garand.
Gears is one of my favorite game franchises so to see Jonathan go over the iconic lancer specifically, and then the other awesome weapons in the series in the next video makes me so happy. Even better that he's also a big fan of the games. I wonder why this didn't pop up in my recommended when it was uploaded though.
I do agree about that. the Mk.2 does indeed have no stock, but at the time it was because it was made with the help of Epic Games. and Epic doesnt have any stock on any of their weapons at the time of UT2003/04 to UT3 so the weapons didnt have any stock. hence why the lancer didnt have a stock. But of course it got fixed in later iterrations like the custom mk.2 and Mk.3
I’m not sure if this was from my recommendation but WOW PLEASE DO CALL OF DUTY WORLD AT WAR the original obviously. Red dead redemption the first one as well. Call of Juarez.
I really liked how they introduced the Retro Lancer in with the passing comment referring to the huge recoil and heavy damage to make it the video game AK of the Lancers about how the kick would basically take your arm off and how they all hated the gun.
There is a square bit on the Lancer Mk 3 where the stock meets the receiver that suggests it might be a button to collapse or extend the stock. As for where the ejection port is: I'm thinking it could be some sort of telescoping bolt mechanism that holds 2 rounds at a time on the bolt face. Perhaps it picks up a round as the bolt comes back, then slams forward like an open bolt machine gun to fire a round on the upper bolt face. Then it kicks the round under it up into the extractor. The magazine certainly seems to operate as a triple or even quad stack magazine if the suggested proportions of its casings and magazine body are any indication
It looks like the Gears 5 lancer weapon swap icon has the ejection port above the magazine, as the space above the pistol grip lacks detail. Perhaps some animation limitation prevented them from position it on the model, or the icon art team never actually looked at the in-game model and used their own knowledge (which is likely, I have a friend that does weapon art for games).
Quality/Production critique: Jonathan's camera feed's frame rate is VERY inconsistent. I would honestly suggest double-ender recording, which could also give us a much better look at this wonderful priest of projectiles.
The ineffectiveness of a fixed blade bayonet against the newly encountered Locust, as opposed to other human factions, is brought up in one of Karen Traviss' GoW novelizations. Partly to explain it, partly tongue-in-cheek. She was also the lead writer for GoW 2 and 3.
The Lancer is, in my opinion, the greatest firearm ever created in gaming. From the Mk 1 (Retro) Lancer, to the iconic Mk 2 Lancer with the infamous chainsaw bayonet, then the more modern and sleek Mk 3 Lancer, and finally the newly introduced Lancer GL; you just can’t go wrong with a Lancer assault rifle. If I could have any weapon from gaming, it’s a Lancer.
Regarding the sights, in the original gears of war, the sights were just a two point iron sight with a circle in rear, and a thick “lollipop” shape up front. The footage shown here was from the ultimate edition, which notably tweaked a lot of the ingame designs
"Put the thing on the thing" -firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
Day #3 Of asking GameSpot to feature Midway Studios "Area 51" From the ps2 era. One of my favorite games of all time with a wide range of fantasy human / alien weapons! Please please please!
I would want to see some guns featured from Borderlands 2, that game had loads of different variations of weaponry. I know it might be a bit too deep of a game to decide what to film, but for example it would be good mix to show some traditinal military arms from Dahl, some revolvers and rifles from Jakobs, maybe show how the makeshift guns are from Bandit, toss in a gyrojet gun from Torgue and then show some scifi designs from Hyperion and Maliwan. Last weapon could be something unique, like the SWORDSPLOSION, which is supposedly a Torgue shotgun, but it shoots sword(s) which will explode. You could play the game normally for a bit, but as the drop rates for the legendaries or later on pearlescents aren't great, there's great save editor around that lets you build all the guns from the long list of weapons and then drop down selections for the different gun parts. Edit: The save editor in question is called Gibbed's Save Editor, it's been a few years but I used to do a lot of testing with it to see which combination of parts would be the best for lots of guns I got, since all the parts change the stats of the weapons.
Isn't the short buttstock more adapted to armour ? I thought you would extend it when you are slim and have to get it back in if you have thick layers, so your shooting is not too far away.
now this is a shot in the dark here, but my headcanon is that the clip on bayonet wasnt sturdy enough to stay on the rifle while fighting close up, so the jury rig solution to the retro lancer was just to bolt the knife in place with whatever bits of metal bracketing you have available. even the model looks like they just drilled a hole in the side of the rifle and stuck a bolt through it.
I like how he's coming from a place of love with his criticisms. He actually plays the games and understands the "rule of cool" while being a firearms expert. 👍 fun series to watch
Yeah, I like this video more than most of the others purely becuase it is just Jonathan talking about a game he enjoys. Same reason I watched the Left 4 Dead video twice.
Chainsaw came around cause the Locust hide was too thick, the blades broke most of the time unless you had a lot of momentum.
Tai improvised in a hardware shop where he killed a drone with a power saw, where Marcus went to his father (head of weapons development ) and asked if it was possible. Thus the MK 2 was born
that is correct the lancer mk1's bayonet aka the retro lancer was pretty much useless against the locust's thick hide and would either bounce off or break, also the small mag size and total ammo carried proved to not be sufficient for prolonged firefights
Was this explained in a comic or novel? Would love to read it.
Ah, I either forgot or never knew this :)
@@theoutlawking9123 Yup! Karen Traviss did a series of Gears of War novels that are actually quite good and do a magnificent job of fleshing out the world and the characters, including one that detailed Marcus' time in prison leading up to Dom breaking him out of jail and what exactly he did to end up there. I think Gears 3 resonated with me even stronger than it would have normally because I had a lot of anticipation of it because it not only resolved the plot of the games, but several plots in the novels. IIRC Traviss was also the lead writer for Gears 3.
Anyways the novels are Aspho Fields, Jacinto's Remnant, Anvil Gate, and Coalition's End. The prison novel is The Slab.
It's in the first or second novel, I have all the gears UE material. So much good stuff in them :)@@jonathanferguson1211
They actually made a blueprint of the internals of the lancer, the really neat part is that the magazine is U shaped because it has to leave room for the chainsaw
So what your saying is with some alterations a real lancer is plausible even if impractical my desire to become a gunsmith furthens
I remember when someone actually did a calculation of that blueprint of the gun a foud out that the bulletin where the size of a .50 cal
I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886
You'll get there, bud.
Would love to see this.
Don't worry lads it's only been 2 years keep asking it might happen in the next decade
That video would be longer than the entirety of that game.
YES PLEASE and I want a Sequel
You know it’s an iconic weapon when Jonathan spends an entire video covering it specifically
As a dev on Gears and a military man/gun nut, I cant tell you how enjoyable it is to watch this.
You're a dev on gears?! That's insane to hear man. :)
I think gear has always resonated with vets, so that’s awesome to hear that y’all have vets working on gears, thank you brother
Love gears please remaster Gears 2 for PC
I'd always hoped to see Jonathan cover Gears, very happy to see him give the lancer its own video
Same
The story of the MK 3 is that Marcus modified his own custom Lancers in Gears 4, which included a few improvements such as the improved sights and a carved wooden stock. Between Gears 4 and 5, however, Baird ended up using these new modifications to upgrade the COG's existing guns from the MK 2 to the Mk 3 (though Marcus still favours the one he made himself).
There's even a collectible in Gears 5 detailing the technical changes.
Did you mind that starting in Gears 2, the barrel extends beyond the chainsaw? Feels like that'd make it more likely to snag on whatever you're sawing through.
Aaah, that did bug me originally actually, not sure why I missed it here!
You don't really cut through bodies in Gears 2 if I remember right, it still behaves like a "traditional" bayonet just with some more flare and I even played through Gears 2 chainsawing whenever I got the chance to. Even took that into Gears 3 and actually got chainsawed in return by one of the hive guards towards the end of the campaign just not expecting Locust to have Lancers.
The Gears 2 also shrunk the chainsaw by length, a bit of an oversight as the characters hands clip though the grip hole
I love how naturally he flows from "the buttstock is too short but looks like it might extend" to "they've been fighting for years without a buttstock and so they choose not to use it"; as implausible the situation is realistically, that sort of reading of consistent internal logic tickles my lore pedant brain, even as someone without personal investment into the series. Fantastic as always, y'all!
I wanna see him tackle the guns of Killzone lol
They’re a bit odd, sometimes, but he’ll find them (particularly the Helghast ones) very interesting.
Killzone's one of the few games that had more "realistic" sci fi gun lineups. Then again, most of the Killzone guns are based around being kitbashed from real-world firearms...
On the subject of the GL - it kind of reminds me of those Anti-tank rockets that launch 'horizontally', then shoot up in the air before coming down on 'top' of the Enemy that has been laser targeted. A 'precision guided' anti-personnel launcher similar in concept to a Javelin to compare to more real world weaponry...
I didn’t think I could like Jonathan more, hours of Gears? There we go
To note on the retro lancer and the bayonette.. is because they bayonette (I'm spelling it wrong most likely) is because the knfe kept breaking off in locust hides hence the upgrade to the chainsaw
You spelled bayonette correctly actually
Since it comes from French "baïonnette" spelling it as bayonette is not completely wrong, the more common spelling is bayonet though. Either way does not really matter that much in my opinion.
@@CatsT.Myep. Language is more about understanding what is meant, rather than how it's spelled.
Definitely can tell what word you meant, so spelling it "bayonette" is fine.
A bit classier than usual, even :D
Unless it's from the bayonet region of France it's just a spicy knife blade
It would be cool to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe
You can inspect the weapons in detail using the captura mode
The only reason I can think of why they haven't covered it yet is because it takes a lot of time investment to unlock the guns. I think Dave already plays Destiny 2 so its not a big problem for him there. I'm not sure though
@@dormikdelron i think that it's simpler to get guns in warframe, since you just have to either buy the weapons with platinum or buy the blueprint and grind the resources and craft it, which takes on average 12 hours to craft, not including getting the resources
@@dormikdelron There's a _lot_ of guns in Warframe that don't need all that much of a time investment to get, and most of the low mastery guns are more 'traditional' in their form and function then the higher level mastery stuff.
TBF though there's a _lot_ of guns that need a lot of time to unlock, either through rep grinding or material grinding that he wouldn't get to see unless they're already on the way to unlock them.
I really really wanna see him Break Down the Guns and Tanks of Valkyria Chronicles
I like the reload minigame because it adds tension.
I always thought a good suppression mechanic would’ve been if the reload bar got more sporadic the more you got shot at.
I really appreciated hearing Jonathan’s Gears of war Judgement.
A bit sad we didn’t get him doing the Cole train goes “Woo woo.”
Why the Lancer specifically instead of just reacting to all of the GoW weapons?
Quality takes time.
I think vermintide 1 and 2 would be cool, maybe you could have Jonathan and your melee weapon expert analyze it together.
The first collaborative video!
Would be awesome.
Skallagrim did that a little while ago.
It wasn't too much of an _'in-depth'_ analysis, but, at least he did it.
Kruber & Saltzpyre got the best weapons, honestly.
We need a new GOW game!
So glad Jonathan played Gears!! It's one of those turn-your-brains-off and have fun kinda game series!!😁
So. Much. Gears.
Honestly, I'd say that only really applies to the first game, the second and third had a lot of effort put into their setpieces and story. Haven't played 4 or 5, though.
@@marcellosilva9286 Four is decent, though the end felt a bit rushed. Haven't played 5, but from what I hear, I (at least) wouldn't enjoy it.
I have only played the first one but I felt like there was a tactical element with using of the covers
It'd be really interesting to see him break down the iconic gnasher shotgun, torque bow, and boomshot
Aw. I was hoping you would mention Marcus's custom lancer from gears of war 4. That's my absolute favorite lancer design.
In the latest installment teaser trailer, E-Day, Marcus has a retro lancer and he does indeed release/take off the knife during it. Granted it's super quick and in shadow, but it happens and maybe you can do it in game 🤷🏻♂
Lancer GL is my favorite, cause as much as I love the Chainsaw, the GL just gives off classic "M4 with M203" vibes!
This series works so well BECAUSE Jonathan was already a video game fan and it shows. He critiques the game guns but understands the historic significance of the designs and from gameplay balance perspective. Love this series and Jonathan's real world insight!
The retro lancer was also a higher calibre.
More like the difference between rifle rounds and kurtz rounds.
The chainsaw makes sense in canon as the locust have extremely durable skin and its hard to get a knife in them.
And you have to get a running start to impale them with the Retro Lancer!
@@capturedflame there is a reason a chainsaw cuts a tree down much easier than a axe...
@@fuckedupbypiplup4460because it rips some of the wood into very tiny pieces instead of cutting it. If you don’t remove pieces of the tree, any actual cutting blade won’t get far before they’re stuck.
@@capturedflamejust so you know, the lanzor is the size of some of the heaviest lmg and the metal seems to be quite durable since in the lore it can litteraly chainsaw litteral armor able to bounce off 5.56 bullets like nothing
@@capturedflame it doesn’t seem to be blade breaking, since somebody said that you’d need a running start to impale them. I guess it’s like having a very thin sheet of steel all across your body. But I am not knowledgeable enough in Gears Of War lore, blade and saw dynamics or the theoretical science of alien tissue to know whether it makes sense.
In the Gears of War E-Day trailer, we do get a small glimpse of how the bayonet detaches from the retro lancer.
For some reason "mounting on a pec" was pretty amusing to me as a phrase
Homonymous with _mounting on a PEQ,_ which means installing AN/PEQ-15
Jonathan should break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out.
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3
On that note, i think mgsv is more interesting, the many franken gun in there
Lso just for funsies, have him react to Ocelot's gun spinning in that game.
You're pretty good.
@@phucletran2860he already did V
The reason the lancers don't have buttstock is because all the people in this game compensate for recoil with their thick, beefy arms and their refrigerator of an armour. Even the women are Amazonian.
You did mention the Mark III Lancer getting rid of the weird magazine arm and actually gaining ejection ports but didn’t mention the bizarre proportions of the magazines themselves? They’re gigantic, especially compared to the ejected brass or the size of the ejection ports which gives an idea of the size of the cartridges they’re supposed to hold. Does the thing hold multiple stacks of ammunition as well as being stacked front to back? The magazines on the Lancer series are just weird.
I did in the recording session :)
I would love to see him react to Generation Zero
It's a pretty niche unpopular (very underrated) game so I'll explain the game real quick
It's a first person open world shooter set in 1980's Sweden
It's a vast open world where you fight robots with all kinds of cold war era weapons
But alot of the guns are really stylized and I would love to see his reaction
Wish David would stop forcing himself into these... Less David... MORE JOHNATHAN!
now go look at the gears eday trailer to see how they un attach the bayonett
i think it's odd that more games do not employ some sort of reloading minigme. it's great way to do things and the folks who invented it were happy to share the idea with other developers.
if i ever create a shooter, rest assured it will have a dynamic reloading system, a la Gears!
also in gears 2 the chainsaw extends out when you reload i always though that was a nice touch they took it out in the later games saddly
The motion captures of the game was done by a Vietnam and world war II vet. They also help around the shakiness and feeling of a actual combat. They even film themselves using Nerf guns simulating how they fire and how to properly take cover.
I know all of this because I used to have the limited edition copy of gears of war 1 with a inside look of the game DVD.
The Lancer will look better as a bullpup with the blade extending FAR beyond the gun muzzle, giving its wielders a de facto buttstock that doubles as a two-handed chainsword hilt, and its blade LOT more reach.
"dont know if in game this is meant to be a weapon in development as the war is On-going." which war do You refer to, Jonathan? the Pendulum wars, the Locust war, the Lambent Pandemic, or the Swarm war?
So they don't tall about it in the gears universe as the games primarily drop you into the more interesting time of the universe. Your standard cog soldier from G1 and G3 were very bulky and for the older soldiers it definitely showed. This cones during the long pendulum war with a portion of the COG hierchy focusing on research into creating supersoldiers. One of these projects was a steroid compound stim for trainees and led to soldiers have heavily augmented strength. This coupled with the older proto cog armor being incredibly heavy and durable with the lighter variant chest peice being incredibly heavy, led to the older soldiers being incredibly bulky with enhanced reflexes. Later soldiers wich were streamlined were given a watered down compound and lighter mass produced armor. This added muscle and durability allowed soldiers to fire low caliber weapons like the lancers with relative ease. Even allowing them to fire the 70. Caliber revolver and carry extremely heavy weapons with ease. In the later games of G3 G4 and G5 soldiers went away from the genetic alteration in opt for use of technology to supplement forces and gear with heavy ordinance being handled by M2 Dee-Bees.
i really thought he would look into how the chainsaw was powered or how it avoided the 'gun' part of the gun, still a nice video!
They didn’t change the bayonet to a chainsaw because of technology upgrades but because the locust skin was so thick and hard the bayonet would have a hard time going through it
Trying to think of how that ejection mechanism could work on the MK 3:
1. Bolt come back, and the spent case is pushed horizontally into a tube.
2. The next round is fired, and gas pushes the previous spent casing back to the ejection port.
3. When the bolt comes back after the second round, it hits a lever that kicks the case out the side (maybe those little cutouts in the port visible at 12:29)
Best Lancers were in Gears 3. Also the best Gears game, no contest!
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I can't believe Jon missed the hilarity of the player "stealth-killing" an enemy with a giant chainsaw.
Fun fact: Lancer mk2 doesn't have a shell ejection port.
Awesome analysis of the Lancer. I never noticed they removed the magazine holder arm thingy. Escape From Tarkov just added the PKP and PKM GPMGs and SVT/AVT rifles. The animations look raaather good. Would be cool to see yer opinion on them :)
3:01 Is anyone else thinks this grey stuff around the gun confuses more than helps?
YOU GUYS MISSED A LANCER! The Custom Lancer from Gears 4 that had wood furniture and a flashlight!
Maybe the low recoil could be explained by a constant recoil system like the one in the Ultimax light machine gun developed by James (Jim) Sullivan. Forgotten weapons or maybe it was InrangeTV did an episode where they interviewed him about it, and fired it full auto with one hand!
I still feel like jonathan would enjoy the weapons of the order 1886
You forgot to include the modified lancer from GoW 4, wich in my opinion is the coolest looking. It has some sort of mg42 wooden shoulder stock, looks very solid
Day 2 of requesting Jonathan takes a look at the firearms of the Killzone series
I think it would've been neat to touch on Marcus's custom lancer from Gears 4- he has four, and what do they all feature?
Wooden buttstocks. High-grade wood I imagine, all things considered. Probably how the Lancer developed into Gears 5.
Good idea to dedicate a whole episode to the lancer considering how many iterations there are.
My headcanon for why they don't have a buttstock is that they're big strong macho men who don't need no buttstock.
Pretty sure that's not too far off, since COG soldiers are actually genetically modified to add onto their already robust physique. Then add onto that how bulky their armour is, and a stock actually gets in the way.
I am surprised they didn't get the canon blueprints for the Lancer Mk 2 to show to Johnathan.
Can we see another Siege video? I’d like to see him react to Jackals whole kit or at least the c7e and thorns uzk
The guns of COD Black ops III next!
just when you'd think Johnathan couldn't be more likeable than he already is, you realize he's a Gearhead, f yea Johnathan, you rule
Anyone played Gears of War in your childhood?
there is still a huge number of historical (?) guns in the Assassin's Creed franchise.
i would love to see COD Infinite Warefare
Will you do the Killzone games next?
Great video as usual! Would love to see Jonathan cover the guns of Enlisted in the future! So many cool prototypes and experimental weapons in the game!
Please make a video about Arena Breakout 🔥
I'd be totally fine with the GoW reloading mini-game being included in other shooters, both 1st and 3rd person. It's a really nonintrusive but immersive gameplay mechanic.
I want him to react to metro exodus guns
I think the Lancer GL is supposed to be more of a Lancer Mk4 than a Mk3 with the GL attachment. The overall body is a different shape and it has a higher rate of fire and ammo capacity. Also a shame that Jonathan didn't mention the Pike 40mm Mini Missile that Raytheon is making. It doesn't work on the M203 because it's very long, but on stuff like the M320 and EGLM it works well, and apparently is even compatible with the classic M79.
The thing in Gears that is still a bit of a question mark for me is that they use the M1 clip as their ammo icon. A very specific weapon's means of reloading, whilst most games use a generic line of cartridges, a magazine icon (usually curved AK-style or STANAG-style), etc. The M1 Garand clip is specific to just the M1 Garand.
Gears is one of my favorite game franchises so to see Jonathan go over the iconic lancer specifically, and then the other awesome weapons in the series in the next video makes me so happy. Even better that he's also a big fan of the games.
I wonder why this didn't pop up in my recommended when it was uploaded though.
Same
I do agree about that. the Mk.2 does indeed have no stock, but at the time it was because it was made with the help of Epic Games. and Epic doesnt have any stock on any of their weapons at the time of UT2003/04 to UT3 so the weapons didnt have any stock. hence why the lancer didnt have a stock. But of course it got fixed in later iterrations like the custom mk.2 and Mk.3
I’m actually playing through the Gears of War games on my gaming channel as we speak funny enough. XD
I’m not sure if this was from my recommendation but WOW
PLEASE DO CALL OF DUTY WORLD AT WAR the original obviously. Red dead redemption the first one as well. Call of Juarez.
I'm not sure if you have finished it yet. But have you ever seen the Relic version of the GL? That is something you would like to see
I really liked how they introduced the Retro Lancer in with the passing comment referring to the huge recoil and heavy damage to make it the video game AK of the Lancers about how the kick would basically take your arm off and how they all hated the gun.
There is a square bit on the Lancer Mk 3 where the stock meets the receiver that suggests it might be a button to collapse or extend the stock. As for where the ejection port is: I'm thinking it could be some sort of telescoping bolt mechanism that holds 2 rounds at a time on the bolt face. Perhaps it picks up a round as the bolt comes back, then slams forward like an open bolt machine gun to fire a round on the upper bolt face. Then it kicks the round under it up into the extractor. The magazine certainly seems to operate as a triple or even quad stack magazine if the suggested proportions of its casings and magazine body are any indication
It looks like the Gears 5 lancer weapon swap icon has the ejection port above the magazine, as the space above the pistol grip lacks detail. Perhaps some animation limitation prevented them from position it on the model, or the icon art team never actually looked at the in-game model and used their own knowledge (which is likely, I have a friend that does weapon art for games).
Finally, I always wanted to see him take a look at the gears guns
About time he talked about Gears guns :)
Also you guys missed the Custom Lancer from Gears 4
Quality/Production critique: Jonathan's camera feed's frame rate is VERY inconsistent. I would honestly suggest double-ender recording, which could also give us a much better look at this wonderful priest of projectiles.
It’s about time you’ve done a review on gears. Well done!
The ineffectiveness of a fixed blade bayonet against the newly encountered Locust, as opposed to other human factions, is brought up in one of Karen Traviss' GoW novelizations. Partly to explain it, partly tongue-in-cheek. She was also the lead writer for GoW 2 and 3.
The Lancer is, in my opinion, the greatest firearm ever created in gaming. From the Mk 1 (Retro) Lancer, to the iconic Mk 2 Lancer with the infamous chainsaw bayonet, then the more modern and sleek Mk 3 Lancer, and finally the newly introduced Lancer GL; you just can’t go wrong with a Lancer assault rifle. If I could have any weapon from gaming, it’s a Lancer.
Regarding the sights, in the original gears of war, the sights were just a two point iron sight with a circle in rear, and a thick “lollipop” shape up front.
The footage shown here was from the ultimate edition, which notably tweaked a lot of the ingame designs
"Put the thing on the thing" -firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
Can we PLEASE get a video on MGS3? The M1911A1 review by snake would be brilliant for our man here to see.
Day #3 Of asking GameSpot to feature Midway Studios "Area 51" From the ps2 era. One of my favorite games of all time with a wide range of fantasy human / alien weapons! Please please please!
I would want to see some guns featured from Borderlands 2, that game had loads of different variations of weaponry. I know it might be a bit too deep of a game to decide what to film, but for example it would be good mix to show some traditinal military arms from Dahl, some revolvers and rifles from Jakobs, maybe show how the makeshift guns are from Bandit, toss in a gyrojet gun from Torgue and then show some scifi designs from Hyperion and Maliwan. Last weapon could be something unique, like the SWORDSPLOSION, which is supposedly a Torgue shotgun, but it shoots sword(s) which will explode.
You could play the game normally for a bit, but as the drop rates for the legendaries or later on pearlescents aren't great, there's great save editor around that lets you build all the guns from the long list of weapons and then drop down selections for the different gun parts.
Edit: The save editor in question is called Gibbed's Save Editor, it's been a few years but I used to do a lot of testing with it to see which combination of parts would be the best for lots of guns I got, since all the parts change the stats of the weapons.
Finally! Now they just need to be Perfect Dark (N64 original / Xbox remaster)
I'm gonna say it again, mentally break him by showing him the Cruelty Squad weapons and/or equipment items, Gamespot.
Isn't the short buttstock more adapted to armour ? I thought you would extend it when you are slim and have to get it back in if you have thick layers, so your shooting is not too far away.
My first thought about the crosshairs were that maybe when you lined up the x's the colour changes perceptively
Wasn't expecting this
now this is a shot in the dark here, but my headcanon is that the clip on bayonet wasnt sturdy enough to stay on the rifle while fighting close up, so the jury rig solution to the retro lancer was just to bolt the knife in place with whatever bits of metal bracketing you have available. even the model looks like they just drilled a hole in the side of the rifle and stuck a bolt through it.
With the ejection port being too far back maybe they did something like the F2000 does with its brass? IDK just spitballing here.
Finally the Gears 5 lancer gets the love it deserves. It’s honestly my favorite one to use, it feels so much more accurate and punchy
Its literally the weakest lancer code wise