Re: Unpaved road. 75% of ALL roads in New Mexico are unpaved. As for "water was supposed to be found", we generally drill a well. Bring your check book.
Thanks for watching! The amount of unpaved roads here in Vermont is also similar, though perhaps in slightly better condition. We actually live on a dirt road...
It's funny to me how MANY folks are interested in this land. I was WILLED some land from my G pa. He paid nearly nothing out of the Army in the 50's. Again, you get what you pay for. You can't expect not to have to put work into property like that to make it comfortable to live. To each their own.
I would go to the county assessors office and have them map it out and to check for any documents on water rights. I live in New Mexico and most of these properties have water rights or mineral rights attached to them. You might have a gold mine and don't realize it.
Thanks for watching! We will be back someday (and not on the 4th of July) and will do some more research just for the fun of it. Like you say, you never know...
@@LuvSubbin Thanks for uploading, Vermont is beautiful but very different. I'll make it up there for a New England fall one of these days. Airstreams are wonderful, you may also enjoy the similarly designed Spartan trailers. Irony, I have a friend with a few acres around the same area, purchased much the same way. ✌
Cement "structure" is abandoned concrete water tank to hold water that was hauled in or maybe used to be windmill there. You'll definitely aren't rural and you don't understand what you are looking at. May not be squatters. They probably bought a plot or plots off previous owners. This is not Suburbia
Yeah a lot of people are into the living "off the grid" movement in the middle of desert. Even those people have youtube channels & many have rain water catchment or haul water. It dont rain often, but when it does.....2-3 inches can come in 30-min to an hour.
Wow, the memories! My parents bought a lot during that same time frame. We moved from Indiana to Belen. My father was told he couldn't use the prints he had made to build our home on their lot. He was told a contractor of their choosing would have to be hired. We spent seven years in Belen. Never build on the land. Devastating! My mom worked many jobs, we rented an Adobe home from the Tabet family. One of the jobs my mom had was at the Speed Queen laundromat owned by R Tabet. I wish I could tell you we made a good life there. Worst years of my life. The Belen people are good and caring. We just couldn't stay. Thank you, thanks so much! Wow, the memories!
Anytime ''they'' tell u a contractor of ther choosing would have to be hired==BIG RED FLAG...nother words ther going to screw u some more/as in hire their okie relative to build [only thing okie ever built was outhouse]
Two things of note from a SE NM oil hand... the roads shown in the video are in very good condition and finding a tree that size with no visible water means that water SHOULD be pretty shallow, so when you finally decide to homestead on your dream land, the water well won't be TOO expensive! Hah, fun video!
I know some people who drilled a well in that area and hit water at only 150ft and another at 200ft. Where I have land in Arizona, wells are generally atleast 400ft
I agree my Homestead in Arizona has County Roads that are much much worse than these roads. I kind of like it it keeps the riffraff from coming out there
My great grandfather almost bought land where the Wilshire District is in Los Angeles for an orange grove. However he didn't want to pay the extra nickel an acre tax and bought land in Covina east of L.A. I sure wish he had bought the Wilshire District.
I learned through working and traveling in 35 nations that you look for the positive aspects of where you travel to, after first reading about it. Complaints based on your lack of knowledge is not becoming.
I am the proud owner of 1 acre here. Grandma bought it in the 1960's. I pay $5 taxes every year to Valencia County. I can drive to about a quarter mile of the property then have to hike. Good place to hide out.
@@LuvSubbin imagine scuba diving in a 35 foot dive & finding so much junk ! we all brought some bacteria to our live aboard, then they promised to always carry plastic bags to that site to give divers to use, bottles & cans were the bulk of it , cheers 🇦🇮🇺🇸
Scam? Squatters? Charging cow? Guns shots that you have to explain aren't aimed at you? You definitely are like babes in the woods. I'm currently in Alabama but own 30 acres in that area and am anxious to move. Looks and sounds like heaven to me. I hope that I can get my cult to come with me.
It would be a good destination vacation spot. Have you ever thought about renting to help pay the taxes? There is plenty to eat. Rattlesnakes and beef 10:53
The “squatters” could be legitimate off-gridders. There are people buying plots that have gone back to the state due to lack of tax payments, and some will try to buy adjacent acreage to expand. There is water, you’ll need to dig a well. I’m sorry your family was taken by that grifter, but it would be a neat place to park and explore the area. Petroglyphs and old ruins are in every direction. New Mexico has a rich history.
I think I found paradise. I will be heading that way eventually. I wonder if they allow living in an RV on your own property without a structure present. Some place don't.
Hello. I'm looking for land in NM. I basically want several acres that I can prop up a shack, outhouse, deer blind and live on it without any to very minor restrictions. Any advice. I want to live an isolated life.
Always check the zoning laws so you do not look like the fools in the video or the comenters that generalize all land and clearly do not have a clue. No matter what state your land is in you need to know your zoning laws.
Your land Is... a gift from God. It's beautiful. Is... a gift from your family member... you paid absolutely nothing for it. Is... a commodity that you can liquidate for cash. Work with a local realtor. Or contact a couple of Land Wholesalers and see who will give you more
Nice video. Lots of people would consider your "worthless land" to be paradise. I would rather stay out there than the parking lot with electricity you stayed at. But we are all different, aren't we? I'm glad you held on to it.
I was raised on a ranch in an adobe hacienda. The land that looked just like that. I am like you Chris it looks like peace and quiet to me. However, she who must be obeyed does not feel the same way.
Greetings from NM. It’s actually pronounced Beh-lehn (Spanish for Bethlehem, which is actually Beit-Lechem in Hebrew, which means house of bread) the Be is pronounced like bet the len is pronounced like lend. However, most of the locals pronounce it as buh-len. The gunshots you heard are very common in that area, as many people go out there to practice shooting, sight in rifles, or just have some fun shooting at targets, bottles or whatever. The trash, unfortunately, is also very common because the local landfills are very restrictive on what they’ll accept. And as far as the “squatters” and “branch davidians,” haha, but no, that compound looking place, is probably the local rancher that owns most of that land. He’s a nice old guy that just likes to live simple.
Thanks for watching! I was bummed that I pronounced it wrong but will certainly do better next time. Also, I appreciate the additional information from a local.
@@LuvSubbin it's easier to think of it as Bay Lane. Then, try to say the b as a b and a v at the same time. There! you sound like a real chicano! nice video!
Bullshit about the landfills, what are you dumping toxic waste? The land fills will let you dump just about everything except metal or fluids. Take the metal to the scrap yard. There's no excuse to dump shit on peoples property. Drop it off in the land fill or scrapyard. Or dump it on your own fucking land. I'm fucking tired of people dumping shit on my land. Fuck off with your excuses for dumping shit on private property.
Much greener than I expected. That area with the tree is a dead giveaway that there is water close. I'd love to terraform the area to make the most of any precipitation.
My family also has 4 acres there in the Rio Grande Estates. I’ve been wondering about it and wanted to see it up close, Satellite view only gets me so close. It might be nice to be out there with that Mountain View every day.?
Thanks for watching and we're glad our video gave you a glimpse of what your land looks like. We agree, the mountains are beautiful. It's just too bad that this was never developed.
I am a seventy three year old male. I was in college when Horizon and Falls land developement company were all jailed for the scam deals that you guys were part of. Thank you did not make all your retirement plans were not all based upon you land. I know several who were. Good luck to you!!!! Wayne D. Woody
That concrete structure is a water trough, land scams still going on in Arizona, there are some areas in Colorado that look exactly like that high desert for sale
@@LuvSubbin When I saw that trough would have been when I would have started to look for a surface storage tank not far away out of rock or concrete. Beside that structure would have been a water well windmill, or at least the base. Probably a rock or plate over the well. String the well to see how deep and if water. That trough was probably on a gravity system so I would have looked upgrade from the trough for the well. Water is valuable and if your lot could have a well it could be very valuable, even with not very many people around. Those cows are getting water somewhere.
Had to snicker! My property is 1/4 of an acre outside of Taos. I "won" mine at our county fair in about 1968. I was putting my name in the box for the poodle! I went out there to the property a few years ago to see what I had. When I checked at the Court House to find where it was, she said "Oh, you're one of those!". After much searching, I did find where it is. Your road is much better than mine was! I was afraid if my car fell in the gulley down the middle, I may never be found again. LOLOL And I had some neighbors, in buses, houses made from sticks, metal houses, etc. Very few out there. No water, electricity or sewer. No city, county or state ordinances. The area looked alot like your's, but didn't have any dead cows around. ;0) I love telling people I have land in Taos, New Mexico! I have come across several other people that have land out there too.
We had 1/4 acre property in Los Taos Ranchos Estates that my aunt won at the county Fair in the 60's. My grandparents put it in their name as she was a minor. They later gave it to my folks. We went out to NM from California in 1968 and found out property on top of a Mesa. Locals said had to drill 1000' for a well, lol. We stayed the night at local postmaster's property in our camper and she told my parents to carry us kids at night, don't let them on the ground because of all the rattlesnakes! 🐍 $6/yr taxes. Only went there once. When my parents died I stopped paying the taxes and let property go. What a memory!
I have .5 acres outside of Taos in Tres Piedras subdivision. I'm going to try and visit this summer. From the looks of Google maps coordinates, its not too far from highway 64, but navigating through the trees to get to the center seems daunting. I'm wondering if I can camp on it or if the rattlesnakes and other wildlife might run me away. I reckon lots of folks might have bought up property since the pandemic. Maybe the land will develop in the coming years.
Im used to eat at that diner when I worked for the Newspaper farther down the hill. Welcome to Belen , ya the land you inherited is bad and well water very deep.
Most of the well-digging now on that type of land and for all of southern Arizona starts at around $50,000 and up. A Chinese company bought a huge farm in SE Arizona and owns all of the water rights for the entire region. They have sunk quite a few $1,000,000 dollar wells, so as to be deeper than all surrounding towns. It is an outrage that communist foreigners have been allowed to do this, leaving American families with dry wells.
Someone mentioned drilling a well and solar. Solar would work but to drill it well will cost over $20K. Water is very far down. I lived in Belen and was thinking of buying because it was cheap and I was sick of renting. I worked at Lowe's in Los Lunas (10 miles North) where I talked with a driller. He gave me that price.
Your info is over a year ago or more. Today it would start at around $50,000. I checked this for some desert land, too. The communist Chinese (of the CCP) own most all of the water rights in SE Arizona now through buying a huge farm. The few Americans who will be able to survive there are out of luck.
There’s a similar one in far South east AZ. Called “Cochise college park”. It was advertised as “within shouting distance of the Grand Canyon!” But in reality? It’s all worthless desert land with no services and the Grand Canyon is a 7 hour drive away.
I grew up in belen and graduated high school there. I went in the Navy and since then most of my friends have passed on and the place is infested with tweekers cooking meth there. You dont want to try to live there. Its just a frustration and anticlimatic. Shake the dust off and leave. You made it out and didnt loose any more there than a nights sleep.
we looked at several lots there in rio grande estates outside belen. we lived for many years in a very similar situation up in taos county at 8000 feet above sea level (tres piedras estates), and were looking for super cheap off-grid land with a longer growing season. we found it beautiful, but discovered there were several potential projects planned that would ruin the remote life for us; solar farms, casinos, etc. i miss new mexico something fierce, particularly northern nm.
FYI: Penny's Diner is owned by a company that contracts with the Union Pacific Railroad to provide restaurants for their through freight train crews. You will find them in many towns where the crews rest away from their home terminal.
I once had a delivery to make in Belen. I drove all over town, not countryside trying to find the street. Never could find so I parked and called customer next morning. I was actually delivering equipment to make the street I had been trying to find
There were Horizon developments that were genuine and played out well. One is called Paradise Hills and I own one of the first houses that went up around a golf course. Horizon properties in Rio Rancho are worth quite a bit now.
@@gdfitzgibbon Which one? Paradise Hills Golf Course is doing OK. The course in Rio Rancho - not so much. The way things are going here, it'll be a housing development soon enough.
What did u ever do with the property.. Just wondering.. There is a lot of land for sale in Belen now. The new subdivision is called Calle de Oro (in Spanish, " Street of Gold"). Good and funny video.
You're from Vermont? It's just as rural as Vermont. You don't realize how far out Vermont is because of the trees. It would be a great place for a painter's studio! I grew up in Maine.
Thanks for watching! Yes, we're from rural Vermont and live on a dirt road. It makes me laugh when so many of the comments are that we should go back to our big city...
Lots of land scams out west. There was a bunch in northern Arizona where I bought my land. Just walked away from it after all of the government regulations just to build anything.
I once got ahold of a self-published book by an ex-journalist who bought some desert land in California at a tax auction. He built a little cabin out of wood pallets and used some car batteries for electricity. He made occasional runs to Blythe, Arizona, for groceries. He used the cabin to read books and enjoy the peace and quiet. Summers there were too hot for him, however. I bet the stargazing was fantastic.
@@davidb2206 All "Americans" and all non-"Americans" lived without a/c for millenia - until the advent of a/c, i.e. almost all of human history. Billions of individuals worldwide still do. Put down your crack pipe and your dildo, and try anew.
Hi... did you find your land/property? In 1994 my grandma left me 5 acres in Alamosa Colorado. I have been driving to Colorado once a year since then.. checking the property paying my taxes etc.
I spent some time in that area two years ago. “Gunshots” literally EVERYONE CARRIES out there . The cows typically in my area were longhorns. Impressive.
NM is like eastern Oregon Land land land and livestock we are not in a city that's why? Lolo oh my people might be landlocked.. this guy's is soooo mad u can tell never been to NM rural lolol. More livestock and land than people
Don't worry. If your luck is like mine, right after you pass on the plans to build a Disney/Vegas resort will go through and the dreaded New Mexico Land {now a spooky place indeed} will be worth $2mil/acre.
Had to Laugh at the People that got Scammed buying Ground in the Red Desert in WY. Saw a ad for some of the Land on You Tube. Laughed at the Clowns that were trying to sell it. Cheers
Hello from Belen,New Mexico! My ex stills lives in the foothills about 20-30 miles north of your property. His is in the Valley Improvement Association "development" land in the foothills,bordering on the National Forest Land.... That property is selling( if you can find it) for $500-1000 acre now. The land in the valley is about $200 acre...VIA went bust in the mid 90's ,but did create two developments that are quite large now. Meadowbrook Estates (400-500 homes)and Rio Communities,now a city of a few thousand homes.... both are near the river. I lived out there ,totally off grid with my ex for 10 years( 97-07). I just returned to Valencia county in May and today i went out to the west of Camino Del Llano and saw the Corazon RV park and Penny's Diner for the 1st time... unfortunately you can't dine in right now and that is the best part! ps there is no religious compound out there.. About 5-6 hundred homes are spread out on that stretch from the railroad tracks south of Rio Grande Estates to Los Lunas. Several are micro farms... i think that is what you saw.. PPS i am a transplanted Baltimore Native,here since 1982.... and the culture shock was about like yours LOL
Thanks for watching and for sharing your story. We loved the view of the mountains. Hopefully the pandemic will end and people can dine at Penny's because it was awesome!
that concrete box is normally built for animals to get water in the desert they do that alot in texas from watch i have seen on youtube! ranch and land owners build them and most even pipe a faucet or make a homemade well beside it to fill them! I love how you said they were suppose to find water some were here well looking at the green bushy probably under your feet a few feet maybe a few hundred lol
Interesting. If you had the land since 1968 and haven't paid any of the property tax, you could have lost the title to your land at a tax auction. I became curious about whether you still have clear title, but that was never shown in the video. I expect it is very likely it is no longer your land (if it ever was). The NM counties have tax auctions periodically and land with unpaid taxes is sold to the highest bidder.
Thanks for watching! We have paid taxes every year since 1968 - present. In fact, when my dad died we paid a lawyer in New Mexico to transfer the deed for $600.00. For land worth $167...
Do you really think they’d go thru all of this if the land was not theirs? I co-pay taxes and please be respectful of my parents will and intent for us to keep this land in the family
That mess of driftwood and dead cow is probably from a flash flood during monsoons. Common site in desert. I’ve lived in Arizona since 1970. Happens in a lot of areas that are barren.
Thanks for watching! We're going to keep it and all siblings have written it into our Wills to be given to my niece. It's not bad boondocking but the sage brush makes it difficult to get off the road (though the traffic is zero).
This is too funny. I lived in Los Lunas, NM 1982-2014. My. dear friend and neighbor, Georgia Sinister was County Treasurer and hired me as a temporary to help process all this $5.00 property tax payments during property tax season. Stacks and stacks and stacks of $5.00 payments, six of us processing for weeks. I realized it was a scam because my father had gotten involved in some swamp land in Florida, Lehigh Acres. His sunshine retirement dream, northern Indiana winters can be brutal. My brother and I inherited that and paid taxes which were more, $300(Floria boom) which crashed 2007. I left or escaped NM finally, I missed Water falling from sky desperately for my last 15 years there, lol. Years of droughts, fire danger, endless perfect beautiful blue skies was like eating too much chocolate. But the native born folks there absolutely love their gorgeous state and most do not need to travel anywhere else for enjoyment. And their history goes back to before the pilgrims landed. They are good people, hard working, real cowboys, caring family folks, kind, generous, and love their culture and overall happy. New Mexico is not like Texas or Arizona. As the saying goes Arizona blows and Texas sucks, oops that is about the wind, lol.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. We very much enjoyed our stay in New Mexico. Funny, the tax bill actually comes out to $4.73 but they tack on $0.27 "Misc. Fee" to round things up to an even $5.00.
I actually live in the rio grand estates we love the space but when the wind comes blowing it's not so fun we get 50 to 60 mph with sand blowing like you've neaver seen we bought are land a little over a year ago nothing grows out here the wind eather kills it or the sun bakes it how ever it is a very quiet open space with awesome views you just have to be very tough to handle it we knew what we were getting into so it works for us we off grid using solar which works awesome out here good luck with your land
I lived in New Mexico for 4 years. The wind is unbelievable. We moved in in early March and it did not stop blowing until mid June. All the trees had foliage on the lee side of the trees only. Interestingly enough when we moved there, the song by Kansas, "Dust in the Wind" started to be played by radio stations. When I hear the song I reminisce about living through 4 months of non stop wind.
This is one of the reasons for the hacienda-style building. With all the walls built around a main square, it keeps the wind away. The other reason in the old days, those walls were protection from the Apaches.
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@@wannabetowasabe I lived in Albuq. for a decade and never noticed much of a wind issue.
I live in Northern New Mexico and many pieces of land around me were sold to people out of state. They own arroyos, cliffs, but nothing build-able. The laws have since changed, so their wonderful bargain land, unless they bough multiple plots, is now totally unusable - Like they say "Let the buyer beware"!
It's not bad and quite typical of today's prices of similar properties within the state. I would build a nice cob house. Something small and self sustaining with native adobe, stone and wood. It could very well be a nice little get-away for you guys. Wish ya'll the best.
We bought 5 acres at the south end of the Florida Mtns south of Deming. It has a tremendous view to the north, west and south, with the Florida's starting their steep climb about 2 miles east. If it weren't for some low hills about 50 miles away we probably could see the Chiricahua Mtns a 100 miles away. It has a unlivable house, a well and electricity to it. We planned on building an earthen type house for our retirement. Then, a magnesium mine is planned about 4 miles away at the base of the Florida's and the preferred Rt. 11 reroute is a couple of hundred yards to east.
1970-1972 I went to high school and lived nearby in Rio Grande valley on edge of this vast expanse. My buddies and I would ride motorcycles all around out there. I was young and didn’t understand why they had scraped a vast grid of roads in middle of nowhere. Those roads scarred an otherwise pristine landscape that went from the valley all the way to the mountains. There are several ancient Pueblo ruins and a few springs out there. The area is nearly as big as the whole city of Albuquerque, and you can easily imagine from this land what the Albuquerque landscape was like before the city boomed over the prairie in the 50s and 60s. I’ve moved and worked all around the world since then, but I occasionally return to the area. Unfortunately those lands eventually became a vast dump as you can partially see in the video. There also use to be a beautiful remote campground at foot of the mountains that became completely trashed out as the rest of those once beautiful lands have become. To me it’s depressing to see what has happened in such a short time.
Yeah, exactly what you said in your post is what happened to Nevada. Nevada was absolutely pristine until the late 1980’s. That’s when half of California moved in, destroying our state
My Grandfather bought a similar plot in the 50s in the middle of AZ. Google maps shows all the lots subdivided and my Dad and I were able to locate it. We pay $12 a year in property tax, and my Dad gets offers to buy it, for about $75. Not sure what my Grandfather paid but I will probably inherit it :-)
Not every address has an easement of full access to the main roads. When your neighbors buy the land next to yours, they have to sign off authorizing you to drive through their land to get to the exit and entrance of your place.
@ i didn't like how they tried to make New Mexico look bad and they cant even say the name of the town correctly that only has 5 letters in it. Talk about dumb. If their family got scammed that is not all of NMs fault. Also they would be smart to do homework. If so they would know that town is rough and has a high crime rate. But no it was a goal of theirs to make anyone selling land in NM to look like a scam. Smh. Please let them take thier salty asses back to new england.
@@danieldixon4568 Their goal was to see land that they inherited and had never seen before. That land could have been in any state, and it would still be awful. It was a scam, that is a fact. It was sold in 1968 as a residential community for future building. Clearly, that was never the intent then, now and the future. Btw, these two have lived around the world, including out West and the South. On another note, if you come to New England, I'm sure you will know exactly how to pronounce 'Worchester' and 'Peabody' -
@@kathyc1315 well they must not know netflix and facebook and NBC studios have moved in near there and property value is going up and people are developing in the area. My family is originally from Pennsylvania and West Virginia and I went to college in Michigan. I know how it goes.....these 2 wouldn't make it a year here.....and its quite offensive how they portrayed New Mexico. If you get scammed its your own fault and scams happen everywhere not just in NM.
They want to come out from the east coast to meet Indians and be cowboys 🤠 You are born into the culture east coast total different life style Don't come to change the lifestyle of the southwest keep your politics,religion beliefs, in the east coast .
@@jamesfrederick99 do not buy any land without first seeing it in person and find out if it is feasible to have enough water and electricity to live there. If you have to haul/collect water or use solar energy that is a easier said than done. If you can work out power and water and can live in a place that does not really offer any stimulations other than the ones you create, you might enjoy it.
I just bought some land outside of Deming, NM. It was once a development that went belly up in the 90's. I checked out the property and there are other people living in the area, but it has no utilities.
For certain your $5/yrr l2 acres of NM land is a lot lot nicer as in immensely more beautiful spot to plop your rig than that $37 a night scam. Be thankful.
@@BuzzyStreet people don't buy landlocked 12 acre that's inaccessible. We all have vehicles built to boondock. We always pull off the road to boondock. Road is unnecessary because if it is landlocked then would need to fight for access
Reminds me of the beginning of the movie Casino. Lot of holes dug in the desert. Make sure you dig the hole first in case someone comes up and you could be digging holes all day.
Yeah, I inherited some land in AZ like that. The location is fantastic--right in the middle of everything you'd want to do out there: Colorado River, gambling in nearby Nevada, Hoover Dam, Las Vegas, Old Route 66, Oatman, Lake Mohave, Davis Dam and Lake Havasu, all within a short drive... but the roads are all washed out. I got to my five acres once with my front wheel drive, but the new google earth photos show that rains have recently deepened the washes. Need 4WD for sure now. Water is only 750 feet down though... lol
Sounds like where I live! Best kept secret in my opinion...I love it here in Golden Valley Az .....SKAL! I hate desert dumping....we collect trash and take it to the dump......dumped boats also!
As a young just married couple we had a 15 ft Shasta. I hated my outside Engineers Job. We saw in New York Times this AD for vacation lots. We came so close to buying 2 lots. We still live in New Jersey where we have been since married in 1963. A close friend purchased the lots and has never seen them. I'm not going to break his bubble, but if its too good to be true, it cannot be good. Our home in North Jersey is pricing us out! $14,000 a year for a 1928 Colonial Cape. But where would 2 78 year old Seniors move and start back up. So sorry you experienced this, but at least you have health.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. Our family lived in Ft. Monmouth for many years and have very fond memories of New Jersey (especially Sandy Hook while it was still owned by the military). Hope all is well.
Salton sea is cheap and not far from towns. Also, the mother of all landscams, California city, have ever so slowly started to become a small community. If you live on a pension, it doesnt really matter where you live, asling as you keep collecting the pension. I agree, 14k is way too much, you should and could easily find something with taxes of 4k or less, almost anywhere, and spend that 10k a year on some nice trips for yourself. Easiest way to try this out, would be to rent out your place, and dowsize to something much cheaper. Use a rental management company, they are totally worth it as soon as tenants have an "issue". And they always have issues. Then try it out for a year.
Re: Unpaved road. 75% of ALL roads in New Mexico are unpaved. As for "water was supposed to be found", we generally drill a well. Bring your check book.
Thanks for watching! The amount of unpaved roads here in Vermont is also similar, though perhaps in slightly better condition. We actually live on a dirt road...
@@LuvSubbin maybe you should live in your camper instead. 😉
Our well in Arizona is 700 feet deep, but there are wells twice that deep in the area..
It's funny to me how MANY folks are interested in this land. I was WILLED some land from my G pa. He paid nearly nothing out of the Army in the 50's. Again, you get what you pay for. You can't expect not to have to put work into property like that to make it comfortable to live. To each their own.
@@ichi_go Nothing will make that land comfortable to live or safe.
People are stupid. They think this place is uninhabitable, but they are excited about going to Mars.
I have lived in worse places than that NM parcel.
I just hope Musk builds a big enough space ship to take them all there.
@@locomotives9217 `Them'? Let's hope Musk saves a seat for himself!
Now I am afraid my lot on Mars might have been a scam.
lmao yeah, we can totally terraform mars, but places like these or Australia is simply too hard somehow
I would go to the county assessors office and have them map it out and to check for any documents on water rights. I live in New Mexico and most of these properties have water rights or mineral rights attached to them. You might have a gold mine and don't realize it.
Thanks for watching! We will be back someday (and not on the 4th of July) and will do some more research just for the fun of it. Like you say, you never know...
Y'all have no business being out of the city.
you can own land without owning the mineral or owner rights.
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@@survivortechharold6575 yeah, and thats no fun for somebody else to go diggin up your abode for minerals!! or what ever.
Reminds me of a Chevy Chase movie. All they need is Aunt Edna strapped to the top of their truck....
I don't think these two will make it out here in New Mexico.
Thanks for watching. We'll stick to Vermont...
Luv Subbin good.
@@LuvSubbin Perfect!
Great place for a toxic dump!
@@LuvSubbin Thanks for uploading, Vermont is beautiful but very different. I'll make it up there for a New England fall one of these days. Airstreams are wonderful, you may also enjoy the similarly designed Spartan trailers. Irony, I have a friend with a few acres around the same area, purchased much the same way. ✌
Cement "structure" is abandoned concrete water tank to hold water that was hauled in or maybe used to be windmill there. You'll definitely aren't rural and you don't understand what you are looking at. May not be squatters. They probably bought a plot or plots off previous owners. This is not Suburbia
Yeah a lot of people are into the living "off the grid" movement in the middle of desert. Even those people have youtube channels & many have rain water catchment or haul water. It dont rain often, but when it does.....2-3 inches can come in 30-min to an hour.
Wow, the memories!
My parents bought a lot during that same time frame. We moved from Indiana to Belen. My father was told he couldn't use the prints he had made to build our home on their lot. He was told a contractor of their choosing would have to be hired. We spent seven years in Belen. Never build on the land. Devastating!
My mom worked many jobs, we rented an Adobe home from the Tabet family. One of the jobs my mom had was at the Speed Queen laundromat owned by R Tabet. I wish I could tell you we made a good life there. Worst years of my life. The Belen people are good and caring. We just couldn't stay.
Thank you, thanks so much!
Wow, the memories!
Trex8ET
Amazing story. Thanks for sharing it.
Valencia county: one of the most corrupt places in the states. D.C.has got nothing on Valencia county.
Anytime ''they'' tell u a contractor of ther choosing would have to be hired==BIG RED FLAG...nother words ther going to screw u some more/as in hire their okie relative to build [only thing okie ever built was outhouse]
My heart aches for you. Really
Welcome to NM, one of the most corrupt states in the Union. 3rd richest state (oil, minerals and investment) and #2 in poverty. Hmmm...why is that?
Two things of note from a SE NM oil hand... the roads shown in the video are in very good condition and finding a tree that size with no visible water means that water SHOULD be pretty shallow, so when you finally decide to homestead on your dream land, the water well won't be TOO expensive! Hah, fun video!
I know some people who drilled a well in that area and hit water at only 150ft and another at 200ft. Where I have land in Arizona, wells are generally atleast 400ft
Steve: First practical, non-condescending comment I've seen here. Good-o!
Expect 400 feet of well casing, pump may higher in well to start but the depth of casing must be as deep as possible. Still may run dry quickly.
I agree my Homestead in Arizona has County Roads that are much much worse than these roads. I kind of like it it keeps the riffraff from coming out there
My great grandfather almost bought land where the Wilshire District is in Los Angeles for an orange grove. However he didn't want to pay the extra nickel an acre tax and bought land in Covina east of L.A. I sure wish he had bought the Wilshire District.
Yeah he would be millionaire
Burt Reynolds….. in “ The End “. I swear to god I thought there was a lake there. LoL 😂
I learned through working and traveling in 35 nations that you look for the positive aspects of where you travel to, after first reading about it. Complaints based on your lack of knowledge is not becoming.
So, how much do you want for your 2 acres? I could definitely make something of it.
How - well 20K, electric to property another 10K.
30k for well in Pie Town!!! 12k in Port Charlotte
I am the proud owner of 1 acre here. Grandma bought it in the 1960's. I pay $5 taxes every year to Valencia County. I can drive to about a quarter mile of the property then have to hike. Good place to hide out.
I hate when people leave junk in nature!
Thanks for watching and so true!
That's because it's new and all that's made now is junk. I've found 150 year old piles of trash in the desert that were pretty interesting.
@@LuvSubbin imagine scuba diving in a 35 foot dive & finding so much junk ! we all brought some bacteria to our live aboard, then they promised to always carry plastic bags to that site to give divers to use, bottles & cans were the bulk of it , cheers 🇦🇮🇺🇸
Scam? Squatters? Charging cow? Guns shots that you have to explain aren't aimed at you? You definitely are like babes in the woods. I'm currently in Alabama but own 30 acres in that area and am anxious to move. Looks and sounds like heaven to me. I hope that I can get my cult to come with me.
Nice, Future cult applicant at your service
Have fun drilling a well
Cult ? Right I have 3 college girls that will go with me haha
My own cult
It would be a good destination vacation spot. Have you ever thought about renting to help pay the taxes? There is plenty to eat. Rattlesnakes and beef 10:53
Thanks for watching! The property taxes are $5.00 per year so we're not really worried about try to offset that... 😀
The “squatters” could be legitimate off-gridders. There are people buying plots that have gone back to the state due to lack of tax payments, and some will try to buy adjacent acreage to expand. There is water, you’ll need to dig a well. I’m sorry your family was taken by that grifter, but it would be a neat place to park and explore the area. Petroglyphs and old ruins are in every direction. New Mexico has a rich history.
There is definitely water. Both my neighbors had wells. I hauled mine in but it's definitely down there.
I think I found paradise. I will be heading that way eventually. I wonder if they allow living in an RV on your own property without a structure present. Some place don't.
Iol reminds me of our Lots we bought..they never got developed but we did go camping..there once.
Hi I also bought 6 lots in this area back in early 2000's .if your have an acre you can drill a well , septic and go solar for which NM is know for .
What they paid for that Airstream could build out there. I grew up in the desert and loved it.
That cost a small fortune!!
@@vlonevlone2319 Agree - well 20K
Hello. I'm looking for land in NM. I basically want several acres that I can prop up a shack, outhouse, deer blind and live on it without any to very minor restrictions. Any advice. I want to live an isolated life.
Always check the zoning laws so you do not look like the fools in the video or the comenters that generalize all land and clearly do not have a clue. No matter what state your land is in you need to know your zoning laws.
Your land
Is... a gift from God. It's beautiful.
Is... a gift from your family member... you paid absolutely nothing for it.
Is... a commodity that you can liquidate for cash. Work with a local realtor. Or contact a couple of Land Wholesalers and see who will give you more
I inherited 2 square inches in Alaska. Have the deed. Hopefully it’s underneath the Hilton in Anchorage.
Nice video. Lots of people would consider your "worthless land" to be paradise. I would rather stay out there than the parking lot with electricity you stayed at. But we are all different, aren't we? I'm glad you held on to it.
Thanks for watching and the nice comment. It is beautiful with the mountains.
The problem is WATER. Without water life is not susstainable.
@@faithrada, You truck it in. I was raised on the Mexican border that looked just like that. There is always a contractor or two that will do it
I was raised on a ranch in an adobe hacienda. The land that looked just like that. I am like you Chris it looks like peace and quiet to me. However, she who must be obeyed does not feel the same way.
@@uppitywhiteman6797 Haha! Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue, eh? Yeah, my warden too.
Interesting… we stopped at Loves in Belen during our trip from Las Cruces to Santa Fe. Small world. :-)
Any update in 2022?
Greetings from NM. It’s actually pronounced Beh-lehn (Spanish for Bethlehem, which is actually Beit-Lechem in Hebrew, which means house of bread) the Be is pronounced like bet the len is pronounced like lend. However, most of the locals pronounce it as buh-len. The gunshots you heard are very common in that area, as many people go out there to practice shooting, sight in rifles, or just have some fun shooting at targets, bottles or whatever. The trash, unfortunately, is also very common because the local landfills are very restrictive on what they’ll accept. And as far as the “squatters” and “branch davidians,” haha, but no, that compound looking place, is probably the local rancher that owns most of that land. He’s a nice old guy that just likes to live simple.
Thanks for watching! I was bummed that I pronounced it wrong but will certainly do better next time. Also, I appreciate the additional information from a local.
2:19 - Yup , That's a FAIL!! , lol , nice to share the video , thx!
@@LuvSubbin it's easier to think of it as Bay Lane. Then, try to say the b as a b and a v at the same time. There! you sound like a real chicano! nice video!
Bullshit about the landfills, what are you dumping toxic waste? The land fills will let you dump just about everything except metal or fluids. Take the metal to the scrap yard. There's no excuse to dump shit on peoples property. Drop it off in the land fill or scrapyard. Or dump it on your own fucking land. I'm fucking tired of people dumping shit on my land. Fuck off with your excuses for dumping shit on private property.
Looks like where you might meet Jessie and Walter White!
Belen hahaha, keep saying it It's the oddest saying I've ever heard. It's Ba-lynn
Lol
I kept correcting them, too
@JubalFPV LOL buzzer, wrong. No it's not Ba-lynn. It's Be (as in bed minus the D) Len (as in Lenny). Be-Len. Belen, NM. You're welcome.
Much greener than I expected. That area with the tree is a dead giveaway that there is water close. I'd love to terraform the area to make the most of any precipitation.
My family also has 4 acres there in the Rio Grande Estates. I’ve been wondering about it and wanted to see it up close, Satellite view only gets me so close. It might be nice to be out there with that Mountain View every day.?
Thanks for watching and we're glad our video gave you a glimpse of what your land looks like. We agree, the mountains are beautiful. It's just too bad that this was never developed.
Luv Subbin well it definitely would be an off grid earth bag tiny home situation to start with. Lol.
I am a seventy three year old male. I was in college when Horizon and Falls land developement company were all jailed for the scam deals that you guys were part of. Thank you did not make all your retirement plans were not all based upon you land. I know several who were.
Good luck to you!!!!
Wayne D. Woody
4:36 - it's sad, but stuff gets dumped out there , on all sides of Albq, or they come out to ur neighbor hood and pare - taa!!
That concrete structure is a water trough, land scams still going on in Arizona, there are some areas in Colorado that look exactly like that high desert for sale
Thanks for watching and the additional information on what that concrete thing was.
@@LuvSubbin When I saw that trough would have been when I would have started to look for a surface storage tank not far away out of rock or concrete. Beside that structure would have been a water well windmill, or at least the base. Probably a rock or plate over the well. String the well to see how deep and if water. That trough was probably on a gravity system so I would have looked upgrade from the trough for the well. Water is valuable and if your lot could have a well it could be very valuable, even with not very many people around. Those cows are getting water somewhere.
sad thing is, there's some company outta New jersey still doing the same thing
Had to snicker! My property is 1/4 of an acre outside of Taos. I "won" mine at our county fair in about 1968. I was putting my name in the box for the poodle! I went out there to the property a few years ago to see what I had. When I checked at the Court House to find where it was, she said "Oh, you're one of those!". After much searching, I did find where it is. Your road is much better than mine was! I was afraid if my car fell in the gulley down the middle, I may never be found again. LOLOL And I had some neighbors, in buses, houses made from sticks, metal houses, etc. Very few out there. No water, electricity or sewer. No city, county or state ordinances. The area looked alot like your's, but didn't have any dead cows around. ;0) I love telling people I have land in Taos, New Mexico! I have come across several other people that have land out there too.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your story. Bummed you didn't win the poodle...LOL
We had 1/4 acre property in Los Taos Ranchos Estates that my aunt won at the county Fair in the 60's. My grandparents put it in their name as she was a minor. They later gave it to my folks. We went out to NM from California in 1968 and found out property on top of a Mesa. Locals said had to drill 1000' for a well, lol. We stayed the night at local postmaster's property in our camper and she told my parents to carry us kids at night, don't let them on the ground because of all the rattlesnakes! 🐍 $6/yr taxes. Only went there once. When my parents died I stopped paying the taxes and let property go. What a memory!
I checked that area out for land it cheap but didn't find much work
@@desertdweller4316 I was looking at the same estates almost buy one
I have .5 acres outside of Taos in Tres Piedras subdivision. I'm going to try and visit this summer. From the looks of Google maps coordinates, its not too far from highway 64, but navigating through the trees to get to the center seems daunting. I'm wondering if I can camp on it or if the rattlesnakes and other wildlife might run me away. I reckon lots of folks might have bought up property since the pandemic. Maybe the land will develop in the coming years.
Did you get any information from the land office that was closed?
Thanks for watching. No, we didn't get any information. We're pretty happy with just being out there with the beautiful mountains.
" to my niece, this will all be yours someday" 🤣🤣🤣
Im used to eat at that diner when I worked for the Newspaper farther down the hill. Welcome to Belen , ya the land you inherited is bad and well water very deep.
Most of the well-digging now on that type of land and for all of southern Arizona starts at around $50,000 and up. A Chinese company bought a huge farm in SE Arizona and owns all of the water rights for the entire region. They have sunk quite a few $1,000,000 dollar wells, so as to be deeper than all surrounding towns. It is an outrage that communist foreigners have been allowed to do this, leaving American families with dry wells.
Someone mentioned drilling a well and solar. Solar would work but to drill it well will cost over $20K. Water is very far down. I lived in Belen and was thinking of buying because it was cheap and I was sick of renting. I worked at Lowe's in Los Lunas (10 miles North) where I talked with a driller. He gave me that price.
Thank you for that info..👍
Your info is over a year ago or more. Today it would start at around $50,000. I checked this for some desert land, too. The communist Chinese (of the CCP) own most all of the water rights in SE Arizona now through buying a huge farm. The few Americans who will be able to survive there are out of luck.
I bought an acre in Belen NM ( Rio Grande Estates) last year don't know what it looks
There’s a similar one in far South east AZ. Called “Cochise college park”. It was advertised as “within shouting distance of the Grand Canyon!” But in reality? It’s all worthless desert land with no services and the Grand Canyon is a 7 hour drive away.
In the early 70s Horizon land company was doing swamp sales in Florida.
Thanks for watching and yes, Horizon was the same company that sold my parent's this land.
I believe my dad bought into the Florida land. He went down there and then never spoke about it again.
GOOD NEWS -- IT WAS ALL WATER FRONT-- NOT DRY HOT DUSTY BARREN LAND.
i remember when someone tried to sell us a 5 acre "ranchette". It was a barren piece of desert.
I grew up in belen and graduated high school there. I went in the Navy and since then most of my friends have passed on and the place is infested with tweekers cooking meth there. You dont want to try to live there. Its just a frustration and anticlimatic. Shake the dust off and leave. You made it out and didnt loose any more there than a nights sleep.
Thanks for watching and thanks for being the only person from New Mexico not to point out how badly I mispronounced Belen!
I lived in Belen in the 1990's, it wasn't that bad...
Exactly. I would never approach some weird encampment in the desert.
we looked at several lots there in rio grande estates outside belen. we lived for many years in a very similar situation up in taos county at 8000 feet above sea level (tres piedras estates), and were looking for super cheap off-grid land with a longer growing season. we found it beautiful, but discovered there were several potential projects planned that would ruin the remote life for us; solar farms, casinos, etc. i miss new mexico something fierce, particularly northern nm.
It pronunce Be Len (Belen)NM like eye lens
Have fun in land of Enchantment nice people and delicious green chile
Exactly
Best correct pronunciation. Hope you learned. Blessings
OMG the way you guys say Belen and Manzano. I was rolling on the floor😂
Thanks for watching. We did our best. 😄
FYI: Penny's Diner is owned by a company that contracts with the Union Pacific Railroad to provide restaurants for their through freight train crews. You will find them in many towns where the crews rest away from their home terminal.
Thanks for watching and the additional information - I did not know that.
Enjoy your videos you'll make a good team
However, Belen is BNSF territory, not UP.
It’s amazing to fly over that country. There’s all kinds of subdivisions out in the middle of nowhere. People have been trashing New Mexico for years.
New messco been trashing people for years…
FIFY
Belen in Spanish is Bethlehem in English.
I once had a delivery to make in Belen. I drove all over town, not countryside trying to find the street. Never could find so I parked and called customer next morning. I was actually delivering equipment to make the street I had been trying to find
There were Horizon developments that were genuine and played out well. One is called Paradise Hills and I own one of the first houses that went up around a golf course. Horizon properties in Rio Rancho are worth quite a bit now.
💯True. I still think that land might be worth something in the future
But the golf course is dead. What’s next?
@@gdfitzgibbon Which one? Paradise Hills Golf Course is doing OK. The course in Rio Rancho - not so much. The way things are going here, it'll be a housing development soon enough.
How much is it worth today? Two acres would be a great spot to put a automated Camp ground.
Thanks for watching. The assessed value is $167 for the 2 acres but most say that is overpriced.
There's a ton of undeveloped "subdivisions" all around Albuquerque. My favorite kind of land!!! It does feel like the wild west!
What did u ever do with the property.. Just wondering.. There is a lot of land for sale in Belen now. The new subdivision is called Calle de Oro (in Spanish, " Street of Gold"). Good and funny video.
Thanks for watching. We still have it. We plan on keeping it unless a ridiculous offer is made through no effort on our part.
Oh man, thank you so much for sharing. I couldn't stop laughing!
You're from Vermont? It's just as rural as Vermont. You don't realize how far out Vermont is because of the trees.
It would be a great place for a painter's studio!
I grew up in Maine.
Thanks for watching! Yes, we're from rural Vermont and live on a dirt road. It makes me laugh when so many of the comments are that we should go back to our big city...
Lots of land scams out west. There was a bunch in northern Arizona where I bought my land. Just walked away from it after all of the government regulations just to build anything.
What county was it located in? Was it in a subdivision?
are those the guadalupe mountains in southern new mexico?
Thanks for watching! Those are the Manzano Mountains. Very beautiful...
@@LuvSubbin im hoping to move back to new mexico someday i lived there as a child
I once got ahold of a self-published book by an ex-journalist who bought some desert land in California at a tax auction. He built a little cabin out of wood pallets and used some car batteries for electricity. He made occasional runs to Blythe, Arizona, for groceries. He used the cabin to read books and enjoy the peace and quiet. Summers there were too hot for him, however. I bet the stargazing was fantastic.
Lucky for him it's bone dry, or he'd be big game mosquito hunting in his pallet palace.
Blythe is in California, Dense.
@@KD-nk3ht I stand corrected! California it is!
Oh yes, all idyllic-sounding, until 99% of Americans try to live without air-conditioning and die off. Put your phones down.
@@davidb2206 All "Americans" and all non-"Americans" lived without a/c for millenia - until the advent of a/c, i.e. almost all of human history. Billions of individuals worldwide still do. Put down your crack pipe and your dildo, and try anew.
I wonder if that was the same company that did the big land scam east of El Paso Time frame is right.
Interesting... I'll have to do some research.
WOW YOU OWN THAT LAND, THAT'S AWESOME
It's an "Estate "
Hi... did you find your land/property? In 1994 my grandma left me 5 acres in Alamosa Colorado. I have been driving to Colorado once a year since then.. checking the property paying my taxes etc.
I spent some time in that area two years ago. “Gunshots” literally EVERYONE CARRIES out there .
The cows typically in my area were longhorns. Impressive.
Everyone does pack heat in NM .
@@takinittotheheatandthestreet good for NM...we are screwed in California. That is why I am moving to Arizona
NM is like eastern Oregon Land land land and livestock we are not in a city that's why? Lolo oh my people might be landlocked.. this guy's is soooo mad u can tell never been to NM rural lolol. More livestock and land than people
I think its actually pretty cool. That's yours to park your camper and see the sky etc. cool video!
Don't worry. If your luck is like mine, right after you pass on the plans to build a Disney/Vegas resort will go through and the dreaded New Mexico Land {now a spooky place indeed} will be worth $2mil/acre.
Our family has made a pact to continue to pass this land on to generations of our family until it is finally worth something...
Had to Laugh at the People that got Scammed buying Ground in the Red Desert in WY. Saw a ad for some of the Land on You Tube. Laughed at the Clowns that were trying to sell it. Cheers
Hello from Belen,New Mexico! My ex stills lives in the foothills about 20-30 miles north of your property. His is in the Valley Improvement Association "development" land in the foothills,bordering on the National Forest Land.... That property is selling( if you can find it) for $500-1000 acre now. The land in the valley is about $200 acre...VIA went bust in the mid 90's ,but did create two developments that are quite large now. Meadowbrook Estates (400-500 homes)and Rio Communities,now a city of a few thousand homes.... both are near the river. I lived out there ,totally off grid with my ex for 10 years( 97-07). I just returned to Valencia county in May and today i went out to the west of Camino Del Llano and saw the Corazon RV park and Penny's Diner for the 1st time... unfortunately you can't dine in right now and that is the best part! ps there is no religious compound out there.. About 5-6 hundred homes are spread out on that stretch from the railroad tracks south of Rio Grande Estates to Los Lunas. Several are micro farms... i think that is what you saw.. PPS i am a transplanted Baltimore Native,here since 1982.... and the culture shock was about like yours LOL
Thanks for watching and for sharing your story. We loved the view of the mountains. Hopefully the pandemic will end and people can dine at Penny's because it was awesome!
Have you folks been paying your county property taxes?
@@evelynwaugh4053 I am sure he is still paying them, he lives there.. I know there is a lot of abandoned land out there
@ I moved to New Mexico 38 years ago, just to get out of Maryland. I have moved around the Abq area since. Belen is still rural...
that concrete box is normally built for animals to get water in the desert they do that alot in texas from watch i have seen on youtube! ranch and land owners build them and most even pipe a faucet or make a homemade well beside it to fill them! I love how you said they were suppose to find water some were here well looking at the green bushy probably under your feet a few feet maybe a few hundred lol
Thanks for watching and for letting me know about the structure.
Interesting. If you had the land since 1968 and haven't paid any of the property tax, you could have lost the title to your land at a tax auction. I became curious about whether you still have clear title, but that was never shown in the video. I expect it is very likely it is no longer your land (if it ever was). The NM counties have tax auctions periodically and land with unpaid taxes is sold to the highest bidder.
Thanks for watching! We have paid taxes every year since 1968 - present. In fact, when my dad died we paid a lawyer in New Mexico to transfer the deed for $600.00. For land worth $167...
Do you really think they’d go thru all of this if the land was not theirs? I co-pay taxes and please be respectful of my parents will and intent for us to keep this land in the family
@@LuvSubbin That is good, maybe it will worth something with inflation.
@7:00 minutes that’s an old cement water trough for cattle. 🙄
That mess of driftwood and dead cow is probably from a flash flood during monsoons. Common site in desert. I’ve lived in Arizona since 1970. Happens in a lot of areas that are barren.
What are you going to do with your land?? Great boondocking spot!
Thanks for watching! We're going to keep it and all siblings have written it into our Wills to be given to my niece. It's not bad boondocking but the sage brush makes it difficult to get off the road (though the traffic is zero).
This is too funny. I lived in Los Lunas, NM 1982-2014. My. dear friend and neighbor, Georgia Sinister was County Treasurer and hired me as a temporary to help process all this $5.00 property tax payments during property tax season. Stacks and stacks and stacks of $5.00 payments, six of us processing for weeks. I realized it was a scam because my father had gotten involved in some swamp land in Florida, Lehigh Acres. His sunshine retirement dream, northern Indiana winters can be brutal. My brother and I inherited that and paid taxes which were more, $300(Floria boom) which crashed 2007. I left or escaped NM finally, I missed Water falling from sky desperately for my last 15 years there, lol. Years of droughts, fire danger, endless perfect beautiful blue skies was like eating too much chocolate. But the native born folks there absolutely love their gorgeous state and most do not need to travel anywhere else for enjoyment. And their history goes back to before the pilgrims landed. They are good people, hard working, real cowboys, caring family folks, kind, generous, and love their culture and overall happy. New Mexico is not like Texas or Arizona. As the saying goes Arizona blows and Texas sucks, oops that is about the wind, lol.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. We very much enjoyed our stay in New Mexico. Funny, the tax bill actually comes out to $4.73 but they tack on $0.27 "Misc. Fee" to round things up to an even $5.00.
He missed out. 150k people live in Lehigh Acres, FL.
lol "Georgia Sinister" that's a great name. Like a good friend of mine, Pete Bludgen.
Diana Lesueur, your invitation to this land of enchantment will never expire.
One of my favorites places to eat! Cinnamon rolls to die for!!!!!
I actually live in the rio grand estates we love the space but when the wind comes blowing it's not so fun we get 50 to 60 mph with sand blowing like you've neaver seen we bought are land a little over a year ago nothing grows out here the wind eather kills it or the sun bakes it how ever it is a very quiet open space with awesome views you just have to be very tough to handle it we knew what we were getting into so it works for us we off grid using solar which works awesome out here good luck with your land
I lived in New Mexico for 4 years. The wind is unbelievable. We moved in in early March and it did not stop blowing until mid June. All the trees had foliage on the lee side of the trees only. Interestingly enough when we moved there, the song by Kansas, "Dust in the Wind" started to be played by radio stations. When I hear the song I reminisce about living through 4 months of non stop wind.
Thanks for watching. Like you say, the views are awesome. Thankfully we avoided much of the wind...
Thanks for watching! Being there in July maybe we missed the wind...
This is one of the reasons for the hacienda-style building. With all the walls built around a main square, it keeps the wind away. The other reason in the old days, those walls were protection from the Apaches.
@@wannabetowasabe I lived in Albuq. for a decade and never noticed much of a wind issue.
Driftwood? Stump dumping more likely.
The movie "Tremors" was filmed near Lone Pine, CA.
Thanks for watching. What a great movie that was...
I have watched all of them....but the first was the best with Reba, the two of them had the best chemistry!
My wife’s parents bought land inn Leigh High Acres Florida. Turned out to be under water most of the year! Great Video! Thanks for Posting.
The prices have been goin up for many of those lots in the past year in Lehigh.
I live in Northern New Mexico and many pieces of land around me were sold to people out of state. They own arroyos, cliffs, but nothing build-able. The laws have since changed, so their wonderful bargain land, unless they bough multiple plots, is now totally unusable - Like they say "Let the buyer beware"!
2003 Newmar mountain air how do I find the fuse for the running lights
Thanks for watching but you got me on that one...
It's not bad and quite typical of today's prices of similar properties within the state. I would build a nice cob house. Something small and self sustaining with native adobe, stone and wood. It could very well be a nice little get-away for you guys. Wish ya'll the best.
Thanks for watching and the nice comment. We often talk about how we could do something to make it work.
I own an acre there too and plan to build a cob house or Earthship. Nice to hear other people want to live sustainability and off grid too.
We bought 5 acres at the south end of the Florida Mtns south of Deming. It has a tremendous view to the north, west and south, with the Florida's starting their steep climb about 2 miles east. If it weren't for some low hills about 50 miles away we probably could see the Chiricahua Mtns a 100 miles away. It has a unlivable house, a well and electricity to it. We planned on building an earthen type house for our retirement. Then, a magnesium mine is planned about 4 miles away at the base of the Florida's and the preferred Rt. 11 reroute is a couple of hundred yards to east.
I think Tremors was filmed in the Alabama Hills. Near Lone Pine CA
1970-1972 I went to high school and lived nearby in Rio Grande valley on edge of this vast expanse. My buddies and I would ride motorcycles all around out there. I was young and didn’t understand why they had scraped a vast grid of roads in middle of nowhere. Those roads scarred an otherwise pristine landscape that went from the valley all the way to the mountains. There are several ancient Pueblo ruins and a few springs out there. The area is nearly as big as the whole city of Albuquerque, and you can easily imagine from this land what the Albuquerque landscape was like before the city boomed over the prairie in the 50s and 60s. I’ve moved and worked all around the world since then, but I occasionally return to the area. Unfortunately those lands eventually became a vast dump as you can partially see in the video. There also use to be a beautiful remote campground at foot of the mountains that became completely trashed out as the rest of those once beautiful lands have become. To me it’s depressing to see what has happened in such a short time.
Yeah, exactly what you said in your post is what happened to Nevada. Nevada was absolutely pristine until the late 1980’s. That’s when half of California moved in, destroying our state
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. It is really beautiful and it is indeed sad that it is just a wasteland no with no useful purpose.
Thanks for watching!
It's a libtard state, what do you expect
Said the kid riding a motorcycle on the pristine yadda ya
7:12 That cow looked like it was thirsty....
My Grandfather bought a similar plot in the 50s in the middle of AZ. Google maps shows all the lots subdivided and my Dad and I were able to locate it. We pay $12 a year in property tax, and my Dad gets offers to buy it, for about $75. Not sure what my Grandfather paid but I will probably inherit it :-)
Where is it? We are looking for a lot. County and parcel #.....
Land west of Painted Desert. Price doubled since Covid. So has housing.
Driftwood?
Man that looks like where jackrabbits wear canteens.
Thanks for watching and yes, there's not much out there...
I have a piece of property in California City that's the exact same arrangement.......was supposed to be the next Palm Springs!!!! LOL!😬
Thanks for watching and sharing your story.
Not every address has an easement of full access to the main roads. When your neighbors buy the land next to yours, they have to sign off authorizing you to drive through their land to get to the exit and entrance of your place.
A terrible position to be in. To be avoided. Life is too short for that kind of ongoing hassle and stress.
Its so entertaining seeing people from back east in New Mexico.
@ i didn't like how they tried to make New Mexico look bad and they cant even say the name of the town correctly that only has 5 letters in it. Talk about dumb. If their family got scammed that is not all of NMs fault. Also they would be smart to do homework. If so they would know that town is rough and has a high crime rate. But no it was a goal of theirs to make anyone selling land in NM to look like a scam. Smh. Please let them take thier salty asses back to new england.
@@danieldixon4568 Their goal was to see land that they inherited and had never seen before. That land could have been in any state, and it would still be awful. It was a scam, that is a fact. It was sold in 1968 as a residential community for future building. Clearly, that was never the intent then, now and the future. Btw, these two have lived around the world, including out West and the South. On another note, if you come to New England, I'm sure you will know exactly how to pronounce 'Worchester' and 'Peabody' -
@@kathyc1315 well they must not know netflix and facebook and NBC studios have moved in near there and property value is going up and people are developing in the area. My family is originally from Pennsylvania and West Virginia and I went to college in Michigan. I know how it goes.....these 2 wouldn't make it a year here.....and its quite offensive how they portrayed New Mexico. If you get scammed its your own fault and scams happen everywhere not just in NM.
They want to come out from the east coast to meet Indians and be cowboys 🤠 You are born into the culture east coast total different life style Don't come to change the lifestyle of the southwest keep your politics,religion beliefs, in the east coast .
I moved from downtown Chicago to rural New Mexico 13 years ago and would never leave! If you can work out living here it is paradise!
Thanks for watching! We don't disagree. We loved our time in New Mexico.
I am from Illinois. Give some advice on living there.
@@jamesfrederick99 do not buy any land without first seeing it in person and find out if it is feasible to have enough water and electricity to live there. If you have to haul/collect water or use solar energy that is a easier said than done. If you can work out power and water and can live in a place that does not really offer any stimulations other than the ones you create, you might enjoy it.
I just bought some land outside of Deming, NM. It was once a development that went belly up in the 90's. I checked out the property and there are other people living in the area, but it has no utilities.
For certain your $5/yrr l2 acres of NM land is a lot lot nicer as in immensely more beautiful spot to plop your rig than that $37 a night scam. Be thankful.
But first, you would have to carve a road out to your land. The cost of that plus maintenance would probably cover your tie-down fees for a 5 years.
@@BuzzyStreet people don't buy landlocked 12 acre that's inaccessible. We all have vehicles built to boondock. We always pull off the road to boondock. Road is unnecessary because if it is landlocked then would need to fight for access
Reminds me of the beginning of the movie Casino. Lot of holes dug in the desert. Make sure you dig the hole first in case someone comes up and you could be digging holes all day.
Yeah, I inherited some land in AZ like that. The location is fantastic--right in the middle of everything you'd want to do out there: Colorado River, gambling in nearby Nevada, Hoover Dam, Las Vegas, Old Route 66, Oatman, Lake Mohave, Davis Dam and Lake Havasu, all within a short drive... but the roads are all washed out. I got to my five acres once with my front wheel drive, but the new google earth photos show that rains have recently deepened the washes. Need 4WD for sure now. Water is only 750 feet down though... lol
Sounds fun
Thanks for watching and sharing your story of the land in Arizona. Yours sounds like it has a little more potential than ours...
Sounds like where I live! Best kept secret in my opinion...I love it here in Golden Valley Az .....SKAL! I hate desert dumping....we collect trash and take it to the dump......dumped boats also!
As a young just married couple we had a 15 ft Shasta. I hated my outside Engineers Job. We saw in New York Times this AD for vacation lots. We came so close to buying 2 lots. We still live in New Jersey where we have been since married in 1963. A close friend purchased the lots and has never seen them. I'm not going to break his bubble, but if its too good to be true, it cannot be good. Our home in North Jersey is pricing us out! $14,000 a year for a 1928 Colonial Cape. But where would 2 78 year old Seniors move and start back up. So sorry you experienced this, but at least you have health.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. Our family lived in Ft. Monmouth for many years and have very fond memories of New Jersey (especially Sandy Hook while it was still owned by the military). Hope all is well.
Salton sea is cheap and not far from towns. Also, the mother of all landscams, California city, have ever so slowly started to become a small community. If you live on a pension, it doesnt really matter where you live, asling as you keep collecting the pension. I agree, 14k is way too much, you should and could easily find something with taxes of 4k or less, almost anywhere, and spend that 10k a year on some nice trips for yourself.
Easiest way to try this out, would be to rent out your place, and dowsize to something much cheaper. Use a rental management company, they are totally worth it as soon as tenants have an "issue". And they always have issues. Then try it out for a year.
I felt the same way when walking to around through the Arizona desert. I wouldn't walk alone through the dirt for a long time
I see you were born at night. At least it wasn't last night.
Tremors was filmed in the Alabama Hills near Lone Pine, CA. I was there camping at the time.
In 1968 $2500 was nearly a years wages. That was expensive land.
Thanks for watching. My dad was a 1LT in the army at the time and that indeed was a lot of money.
Stumbled upon this entertaining video! Very fun! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and the nice comment.