Ideas to film while Airstream is in the sick bay. I am sure there are tech tips you could cover. How about some tent camping or cabin/yurt camping at public and private campgrounds? Friends spent six weeks touring Oregon while they had work done on their Airstream and stayed in cabins and yurts in various state parks, national parks, and private parks. Rent a 20 foot camper van or the like for a week as a comparison to the Airstream. Rent an Airstream at an Airstream Park for the week. Of course you will do the Airstream Awards again.
Thanks so much for watching and the great ideas! We're filing them all away. We actually checked into renting a Class C for my sister - Wowza are those expensive! We like the Yurt idea. We've often talked about that.
Sorry to hear about this. At least it’ll be fixed the right way. Take the Amtrak down to Florida and use your DVC points! We’ve taken that train and love the roomette. We also enjoyed the videos you made.
Thanks for watching! Great idea - we have already booked the Silver Meteor to Florida for Christmas. We may also do the California Zephyr before our Subbatical is over. The roomettes are great.
I have a suggestion for what to do for videos while your airstream gets fixed. I would love to see a video on how you plan trips; things like where to go, what to see, what route to take, softare/apps used, etc. I'd also like to see more "Cooking With Cindy". Oh and maybe what all you do to get a video up and loaded, the cameras, editing software, whatever. Like the travel by train idea, too!
I recognized that tractor immediately. Been there many times in our 2023 Classic. They finally fixed out door problem the last time after 4 visits. Stayed in the same motel too.
Thanks for watching! We've been to Jackson Center many times but only for service twice - both times for the frame cracking. We will look forward to going again and just hanging out at the Terraport...
Glad to see they have the same chairs in the waiting room chairs. Are they going to fish plate your frame, or totally replace it? Might be time to find a 23FB. My 22 Int has been parked for a couple years. I call it my Sparestream.
Thanks for watching! Aside from welding the frame back together they will do additional reinforcements. I'm not sure if its fish plate welds or if they bolt on segments. The Luv Sub is the first, only, and last Airstream we will ever own regardless of her frame issues so a 23FB is not in the works. If ever the worst happened and she was totaled, we would get a 20 Caravel - the layout is very similar to ours.
@@LuvSubbin I watch your videos every week. I camped 9 weeks last year. I thought I loved my 22 INT until I got my 25 RB. It is more to tow, but way more nice to stay in.. I hope you get your Sub Back by next year, I took mine to Jackson Center on Dec 10th. They called me in July to tell me to come and get it... I had the same issue, out riggers were busted..
Thanks for watching! We certainly hope so. We're not the first with this problem so they should be pretty good at it by now. We want at least another 22 years out of it...
Thanks for watching! It is a design flaw limited to the 22' Airstreams in the 2002 - 2004/5 model years. They tried a different frame design and it obviously did not work. This is not a problem with other Airstreams.
So sorry you’re having frame issues! 😢 Your positive attitude is wonderful and I know you will find creative ways to continue your videos. I’ll be watching!
Thanks for watching and your continued support of our channel during this unfortunate time. We'll hopefully figure out a way to make things interesting...
This summer my wife and I got an Airstream 19CB Bambi and we’ve been enjoying and learning things on your videos. We. live in Skaneateles NY and have often camped in Vermont. One of our favorite NY State campgrounds is Glimmerglass State Park on the North end of Otesgo Lake above Cooperstown the Home of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Besides being the baseball capital of America, This would be a great place for you to visit and/or camp because of museums, breweries, Hyde Hall, Glimmerglass Opera House and numerous restaurants. One place right up your alley for eating would be a greenhouse restaurant called “Origins”. Check Cooperstown out! It would be a great stop from Vermont on your next trip out from Vermont.
Thanks so much for watching and the awesome recommendations. We've heard about Glimmerglass and how wonderful it is. We'll be staying closer to home in 2025 we maybe we'll have to visit. We've been to the Baseball HoF and loved it. It was about 20 years ago and I had to go and see Curt Schilling's bloody sock (we're Red Sox fans). I'll add "Origins" to our spreadsheet of places to go...
Rich & Cindy - Sorry to hear that your Airstream is sick. She is in good hands with the team at Jackson Center. Will you still attend the Florida RV Super Show in January? Hopefully we will see you there. We will be looking forward to seeing how you guys get creative with your videos over the next few weeks. Take care and have fun. …Zephyr
Hi guys! Yes, the folks at Jackson Center are the best and we know they will do a good job. We told them we're planning on getting another 22 years out of the trailer... We are considering going to the Florida RV Super Show by flying down and staying in a hotel. We may see you there...
Enjoyed the shots from Bandana's & downtown Sedalia. We went to those places as well and even rode our bikes on the Katy trail to downtown. Hopefully you will keep it going since, as your biggest fan, I live vicariously through you all. Just some ideas 1) Cooking video(s) featuring Cindy's favorite recipes 2) Videos on Rich's sports car (I am sure you give it the same kind of tlc as your airstream 3) Road trips in Vermont 4) York, PA preview (we are trying decide whether we should make the long trip from Texas) 5) More science experiments 6) Of course expect to see the annual Luv Sub awards...Maybe this helps and just ideas from your self-proclaimed biggest fan!
Thanks guys as always and it was great seeing you in Sedalia. You've given us some great ideas. Who knows? Maybe when we look back on our UA-cam life 5 years from know this will be looked upon as an "opportunity" versus a "problem". See you down the road again soon...
We are on our way to Jackson Center to pick up our Pivot. She’s been there for almost 3 weeks ( the dreaded FES) as well as a new shower surround and other warranty work. Hope they resolve your issues as well as they have always resolved ours 🤞🏼 We are headed back to California and have chosen to avoid 70 as well thanks to all the Addicts warnings.
Thanks for watching! We agree that we owe a level of "Thanks" to the Airstream Addicts page for universally agreeing that I-70 is to be avoided. We have great confidence in Jackson Center and will look forward to being back on the road soon. Safe travels.
If I can say so... I may have found your channel because of our shared love of Airstreams, but I don't even tune in "because" of the vessel you travel in. I simply enjoy your travel experiences and "quirky" (in a good way) style. Just keep producing and we will keep watching.
Thanks so much for watching and the super nice comment! We have so much fun making our videos and we're glad you enjoy our style. We'll keep them coming and maybe this will be an "opportunity" instead of a "bummer" from a UA-cam perspective.
We love watching you both and are glad you got your rig to Jackson Center safely. I know that was a tough drive. We live in St Louis and went to Bandanas tonight and shared your video with our server. They loved it.
Thanks Camp Fire Rob! We'll get her fixed and out on the road again as soon as we can.
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So I was thinking about your cracked frame and I know I’ve heard about it a few times on airstreams, but I was wondering about how the weight distribution is set up. On the video, I stopped it and saw the front of your trailer distribution set up. I was excited to see that you use an equalizer, but I feel that you have that set up lower than it should be for that trailer and your truck. It looks like you have old weight distribution parts, still connected to your trailer and possibly the equalizer bars were set up to go underneath that. Maybe if you deleted or dismantled the old distribution set up and reset your equalizer hitch higher it might not put as much stress on your trailer and thus cause failure of the frame.
Thanks for watching! Actually, we have used the Equal-i-zer OnTarget measuring device to check whether our hitch is set up properly. It uses laser measurements with the weight distribution off and then again with the WD applied. Equal-i-zer says the result should be between 75% and 92% with being as close to 100% as possible. Mine came out to 92%. I sent the results to Equal-i-zer and they confirmed that it was set up correctly. As an aside, the old hitch parts were a Reece system. It was never set up properly by the dealership because our propane tanks got in the way of the attachment point resulting in the chains never being perpendicular to the ground. When the previous crack happened in 2015, it was with the Reece system so I am not sure if the hitch is a contributing factor.
Thanks for watching! We are sure it's not the truck. This is a common issue with this model/year Airstream. We have two other friends in our Club with the same model and theirs cracked as well. Our first crack occurred on the other side in 2015. At the time, we had a different truck and a different. hitch.
We are very sorry to hear about your trailer. We really like your practical approach to Airstreamering, particularly for us folks that have a smaller unit and will miss your updates. We are relatively new to Airstreaming and your channel. We know that you have been at it for a while and would love to hear your story- how did you get into this lifestyle and how has your travel evolved over the years? What are some of the highlights from your past travels?
Thanks so much for watching and the super nice comments on our channel. We have too much fun with UA-cam so we won't be stopping - just pivoting for a while. Thanks for the content suggestions.
So sorry for the unexpected experience, but we're looking forward to your journey through the repair. Maureen and I enjoyed visiting with you in Sedalia, and we also enjoyed a dinner at Bandanas Bar-B-Q! The service abd meal were both excellent. J&M #24784
Thanks for watching and hanging out with us in Sedalia. It was a great time and we have already registered for York. I'm sure there will be some great places to visit there as well.
Thanks for watching! We're bouncing around a number of topics so hopefully it won't come down to me fixing a dishwasher 😀 C and I hope you have a great holiday season as well...
Wow a frame crack 😮 you say “this is common with THIS type of Airstream. What type is that? The year? The model? I have a 2022 23’ Globetrotter and am not excited to think that a frame crack is inevitable 😢
Thanks for watching! You have no worries. Airstream tried something very different with our trailers. The frame was less rugged, we have no belly pan, and the floor is PSB. As near as I can tell, the problem exists only with the 22' trailers in the 2002 - 2004/5 ish time period.
Thanks guys! We were bummed to but Jackson Center will do a good job fixing her up. Have fun in the UK - we did some narrow boating on the Avon Kennett Canal in 2013 and loved it.
Thanks for watching! The Airstream Techs went back a couple of times so we knew it had to be good. Jackson Center will get her all fixed up and we'll be on the road soon (we hope).
Thanks for watching! Yup. Total bummer. That's life. We're going to do what needs to be done by the best folks possible (Jackson Center) and then get back on the road.
This was such a mix of emotions! Happy you were at Sedalia and got to experience the beautiful town with all the sights and sounds. Sad you have to leave the Luv Sub. 🥲 What an exhausting several days for you guys. We are glad you are home safely.... but OMG, we will miss you out here. We will be in Arizona for 4 months, you could come where it is warm and we could adventure together? -Best regards friends! - Jim & Michelle
Thanks guys! Yes, we were exhausted. Every bump we hit I envisioned something really bad happening. We saw that you will be attending that content creator campout in Florida. We may still go to the Tampa RV Show (and stay in a hotel) so maybe we will still be able to catch up. Safe travels...
Sorry to hear about the frame issue. Is this model year prone to frame issues? Will you please describe what needs to be done to fix it an what other improvements you can get done to make it even better? Will any of the costs be covered with insurance? Are there policies for covering this kind of problem? I'll still check "every Tuesday" for news from Vermont!
Thanks for watching! Airstream tried a different frame design with our model Airstream. The design was less rugged, we have no belly pan, and the floor was PSB. The problem is limited to the 22' model in the 2002 - 2004/5 ish model years. They will weld it back together and add reinforcements. We'll show what that looks like when we get it back. We are very happy with how Airstream is treating us.
How about a series of installments profiling the RVs you look at for a replacement? Seriously, a second frame crack? That's too many! If you're thinking 'trains' - consider a ride on the Rocky Mountaineer, or the Trans-Canada.... good luck with the sub's repair!
Thanks for watching and the suggestions. Yes, Airstream tried something different with our frame on the 22's in 2002 - 2004/5 and that obviously didn't work. We are looking at some Amtrak trains and those Canadian ones have always been on our list.
Thanks for watching! Things started shifting on the inside which is a sure sign that the floor and frame were flexing excessively. First the wall behind my dinette shifted but I chalked that off to a rough stretch of road on I-91. When the fridge came off the wall, that's when I started looking closer and noticed the crack (It's right over the fridge). Note our Airstream does not have a belly plan so the frame is easy to see. Actually, from a towing perspective you would never notice anything was wrong.
Sorry to hear about the frame failure. Our 2022 Airstream Basecamp 20x is going to Jackson Center for its 4th warranty work appointment in three years. Disappointing but JC is more expedient than the dealer. Untelated, but we are planning a fly/train national park trip next fall for our 40th anniversary. Empire Builder from Glacier National Park to Chicago, then home to western NY.
Thanks for watching! Yes, the frame is a bummer but when we add up all the joy this Airstream has given us over the years, we are still WAY on the positive side of things. We are also planning on some train travel. We're looking at the California Zephyr...
Thanks for watching! Just before sitting down to answer UA-cam comments we registered for York. We will be there and doing the Vendor/Exhibitor Chairs again. See you then!
Thanks for watching! Funny - as UA-camrs that is something we are very bad at. We thought about asking Airstream - or even another brand - to loan us a unit to test while ours is in the shop. It just doesn't feel right to us to ask but if someone offers...
Sorry about your frame experience. Thanks for sharing it. I would like to see some videos like ‘Top 10 Americana ‘ sites you have visited, and perhaps your ‘Top 10 Road trips of all time’, or best and worst routes you have taken, and best and worst weather trips. I know with your experiences and great video experiences; you will come up with some really terrific videos
Thanks so much for watching and the great ideas for some future content. We especially like the Top 10 Americana sites. Maybe we can hit a few more before the Sub gets back on the road...
I wonder what improvements could be made. Technically a frame needs a certain amount of flex. What could be improved to prevent this from occuring in the future?
Thanks for watching as always. As I understand it, they will realign the frame and then weld it back together. They then apply some reinforcing braces at the weak point. I'll document the fix when we pick it up.
So sorry to hear about your Airstream troubles. Let us hope they can fix the problem sooner than Jan! In the meantime…SHOW US ALL THE BLOOPERS PLEASE!!!
Thanks for watching! We hope they can get to it sooner rather than later as well. They say they only have a limited number of folks qualified to do that kind of work. And maybe we can work some Bloopers in.
Your Airstream is 17 miles from me. I live in Sidney Ohio , which is the county seat for Shelby County in which Jackson Center is located. I have toured the plant there a couple of times. The frame cacking is a serious issue. The frame is probably supplied by others. So how was your Sky line? Did you notice they put cinnamon in the chili? I wondered why you went north to Lima Ohio when you said you live in Alabama. I want to go to Vermont next fall. Take care.
Thanks for watching! We live in Vermont so we headed north. The Skyline chili was delicious and we could taste the spices. Cindy makes her own and it was very close. We used to live in Toledo so our normal chili love was Tony Packo's...
Aww hate to hear about your Sub, but glad you’re getting it fixed! I’d love to see more videos of Cindy cooking (though may have to wait for the airstream fix).
Thanks for watching! You are correct. Airstream tried a different design for a few years and models that included smaller frame steel, no belly pan, and PSB floors. Obviously it didn't work...
So sorry to hear of your troubles. One crack in the past and now a second?! Why? For ideas on your off time, I’d be interested to see how you plan your trips.
Thanks for watching! Airstream tried a different frame design for the 22' model in 2002 - 2004/5. It used less strong materials, had no belly pan, and the floor was PSB. Obviously, that didn't work. Jackson Center has done enough of them so they are they folks to fix it and get us back on the road.
What i did with our Airstream was i started backing off a little with the weight distribution hitch just a little bit to get the frame not to be under that much stress but still felt really good towing. It was just a fine line. I'm not saying that that's the reason for your issue but it's just something to think about.
Thanks for watching! Nope. We are certainly bummed that the frame has issues but hopefully this will be the last fix. We have always said that this trailer will be sold by the Executor of our Estate. We will never sell it...
Thanks for watching! The content we come up with may be a little dopey but we have too much fun making our videos to just stop. Hopefully our subscribers will stick around...
Thanks for watching! As I understand it, they'll jack everything up to realign the frame and then weld it back together. They then affix a number of reinforcing braces. I may not be totally accurate but I'll document the fix once we pick it up.
Thanks Craig! That's a great idea. We've been thinking of visiting the Von Trapp Lodge (Yes, the Sound of Music Trapps) and their brewery in Stowe, VT.
Thanks for watching! Airstream made a design change to the frame for the 22' model around 2002 - 2004/5. They used weaker framing, no belly pan, and PSB floors. Obviously, that didn't work and they haven't used that design since.
Thanks for watching! Yes, we've done some train content and it has done well. We just booked a Roomette on the Silver Meteor down to Florida and am looking into the California Zephyr.
Thanks for watching! Yes, a welding shop could fix this but the Airstream factory also adds a number of reinforcements at just the right place. They certainly have experience fixing 22's with cracked frames versus a local shop that would be doing it for the first time...
Hello you two- we’re sorry for your inconvenience with the LuvSub at the moment. Listen, you guys are so very talented and you always provide wonderful content - so we can’t give you a 2/3 month vacation 😮 Both of you have great technical talent and you can do videos sharing that knowledge. Some thoughts on future content could include: what is in store for your 2025 travel plans…..share what equipment you use to produce your videos…..Airstream history…..your 5 favorite trips (in no specific order - no need to nail that ranking down…..equipment you have tried that turned out in a bust 😊…..a short list of things you would like to try (equipment etc)…..how you handle laundry on the road…..and let us in on how your holidays go! 😊 I know we’ll see more of you very soon - so a big thank you to you in advance! 😉 Al and Cathy in Michigan (25 ft Flying Cloud). ☁️
Hi guys! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment on some future videos. Some of them we have been bouncing around (Airstream history) and some we have already filmed but never released (laundry on the road). We have too much fun making our videos to stop so thank you again for the help.
You all can easily fill the time w/out the Sub by sharing “trip prep” ideas as well as recipes you love while traveling. Sorry about your bad luck. Curious - have you ever thought about trading in the Luv Sub and starting anew?
Thanks for watching and the idea on trip planning and some recipes. No, we will never sell the Sub. Cindy and I joke that the Sub will eventually be sold by the Executor of our Estate. We've had too many great memories and it is just too much a part of our lives to get something else...
Thanks for watching! We looked into renting one of those "See America" Class C's for my sister. Holy guacamole are they expensive! We could probably afford a week and that's probably not worth it... Thanks for the thought though...
I am not a fan of Skyline chili. I really enjoy all of the places y’all eat, so maybe do some reviews of hole in the wall places and some Cindy recreation dishes. I hate the sub is down for a bit. We are headed to Cheaha State Park near Anniston, Al for a few days to enjoy fall. Safe travels
Thanks for watching! One of the things we are thinking of is touring some of the RV suppliers (Zip Dee, Dexter) and maybe also some RV brands. There is a new company called Storyteller that manufactures in Birmingham and they invited us to visit. One of the co-owners has an undergrad from Auburn and a grad degree from the Crimson Tide...
Thanks for watching! Was it that obvious that we were exhausted? 😀 Well, we absolutely were. We worked our butts off at the International Rally and then all the tow days and stress - we are only now catching up.
Just popping in to say I voted for Trump today. It feels good. I don't think I could bare 4 years of that cackling idiot. O and I flipped the light switch on my way out the door. Real mature I know, but it made me happy. 😊
Ideas to film while Airstream is in the sick bay. I am sure there are tech tips you could cover. How about some tent camping or cabin/yurt camping at public and private campgrounds? Friends spent six weeks touring Oregon while they had work done on their Airstream and stayed in cabins and yurts in various state parks, national parks, and private parks. Rent a 20 foot camper van or the like for a week as a comparison to the Airstream. Rent an Airstream at an Airstream Park for the week. Of course you will do the Airstream Awards again.
Thanks so much for watching and the great ideas! We're filing them all away. We actually checked into renting a Class C for my sister - Wowza are those expensive! We like the Yurt idea. We've often talked about that.
Sorry to hear about this. At least it’ll be fixed the right way. Take the Amtrak down to Florida and use your DVC points! We’ve taken that train and love the roomette. We also enjoyed the videos you made.
Thanks for watching! Great idea - we have already booked the Silver Meteor to Florida for Christmas. We may also do the California Zephyr before our Subbatical is over. The roomettes are great.
I have a suggestion for what to do for videos while your airstream gets fixed.
I would love to see a video on how you plan trips; things like where to go, what to see, what route to take, softare/apps used, etc.
I'd also like to see more "Cooking With Cindy".
Oh and maybe what all you do to get a video up and loaded, the cameras, editing software, whatever.
Like the travel by train idea, too!
Thanks so much for watching and the super good ideas! I think you are going to see a number of them in the future...
I recognized that tractor immediately. Been there many times in our 2023 Classic. They finally fixed out door problem the last time after 4 visits. Stayed in the same motel too.
Thanks for watching! We've been to Jackson Center many times but only for service twice - both times for the frame cracking. We will look forward to going again and just hanging out at the Terraport...
Glad to see they have the same chairs in the waiting room chairs. Are they going to fish plate your frame, or totally replace it? Might be time to find a 23FB. My 22 Int has been parked for a couple years. I call it my Sparestream.
Thanks for watching! Aside from welding the frame back together they will do additional reinforcements. I'm not sure if its fish plate welds or if they bolt on segments. The Luv Sub is the first, only, and last Airstream we will ever own regardless of her frame issues so a 23FB is not in the works. If ever the worst happened and she was totaled, we would get a 20 Caravel - the layout is very similar to ours.
@@LuvSubbin I watch your videos every week. I camped 9 weeks last year. I thought I loved my 22 INT until I got my 25 RB. It is more to tow, but way more nice to stay in.. I hope you get your Sub Back by next year, I took mine to Jackson Center on Dec 10th. They called me in July to tell me to come and get it... I had the same issue, out riggers were busted..
thanks for taking us along on your trips
Thanks for watching! We have fun with our UA-cam channel and am super happy that we can take folks along for the good (and occasional not so good).
Will they be able to repair it in such a way that it will not crack again?
Thanks for watching! We certainly hope so. We're not the first with this problem so they should be pretty good at it by now. We want at least another 22 years out of it...
Any ideas/thoughts on the cause for frame cracking?
Thanks for watching! It is a design flaw limited to the 22' Airstreams in the 2002 - 2004/5 model years. They tried a different frame design and it obviously did not work. This is not a problem with other Airstreams.
So sorry you’re having frame issues! 😢
Your positive attitude is wonderful and I know you will find creative ways to continue your videos. I’ll be watching!
Thanks for watching and your continued support of our channel during this unfortunate time. We'll hopefully figure out a way to make things interesting...
This summer my wife and I got an Airstream 19CB Bambi and we’ve been enjoying and learning things on your videos. We. live in Skaneateles NY and have often camped in Vermont. One of our favorite NY State campgrounds is Glimmerglass State Park on the North end of Otesgo Lake above Cooperstown the Home of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Besides being the baseball capital of America, This would be a great place for you to visit and/or camp because of museums, breweries, Hyde Hall, Glimmerglass Opera House and numerous restaurants. One place right up your alley for eating would be a greenhouse restaurant called “Origins”. Check Cooperstown out! It would be a great stop from Vermont on your next trip out from Vermont.
Thanks so much for watching and the awesome recommendations. We've heard about Glimmerglass and how wonderful it is. We'll be staying closer to home in 2025 we maybe we'll have to visit. We've been to the Baseball HoF and loved it. It was about 20 years ago and I had to go and see Curt Schilling's bloody sock (we're Red Sox fans). I'll add "Origins" to our spreadsheet of places to go...
Rich & Cindy - Sorry to hear that your Airstream is sick. She is in good hands with the team at Jackson Center. Will you still attend the Florida RV Super Show in January? Hopefully we will see you there.
We will be looking forward to seeing how you guys get creative with your videos over the next few weeks. Take care and have fun. …Zephyr
Hi guys! Yes, the folks at Jackson Center are the best and we know they will do a good job. We told them we're planning on getting another 22 years out of the trailer... We are considering going to the Florida RV Super Show by flying down and staying in a hotel. We may see you there...
@ be sure to let us know of your plans. We would love to get together with you both then.
Sorry to hear about the Crack frame always seems to be issue,s with rv,s but it,s good they can fix it !!
Thanks for watching! Yes, it's a real bummer but that's life... Jackson Center is the best place to take it and we know they will do a wonderful job.
Enjoyed the shots from Bandana's & downtown Sedalia. We went to those places as well and even rode our bikes on the Katy trail to downtown. Hopefully you will keep it going since, as your biggest fan, I live vicariously through you all. Just some ideas 1) Cooking video(s) featuring Cindy's favorite recipes 2) Videos on Rich's sports car (I am sure you give it the same kind of tlc as your airstream 3) Road trips in Vermont 4) York, PA preview (we are trying decide whether we should make the long trip from Texas) 5) More science experiments 6) Of course expect to see the annual Luv Sub awards...Maybe this helps and just ideas from your self-proclaimed biggest fan!
Thanks guys as always and it was great seeing you in Sedalia. You've given us some great ideas. Who knows? Maybe when we look back on our UA-cam life 5 years from know this will be looked upon as an "opportunity" versus a "problem". See you down the road again soon...
We are on our way to Jackson Center to pick up our Pivot. She’s been there for almost 3 weeks ( the dreaded FES) as well as a new shower surround and other warranty work. Hope they resolve your issues as well as they have always resolved ours 🤞🏼
We are headed back to California and have chosen to avoid 70 as well thanks to all the Addicts warnings.
Thanks for watching! We agree that we owe a level of "Thanks" to the Airstream Addicts page for universally agreeing that I-70 is to be avoided. We have great confidence in Jackson Center and will look forward to being back on the road soon. Safe travels.
If I can say so... I may have found your channel because of our shared love of Airstreams, but I don't even tune in "because" of the vessel you travel in. I simply enjoy your travel experiences and "quirky" (in a good way) style. Just keep producing and we will keep watching.
Thanks so much for watching and the super nice comment! We have so much fun making our videos and we're glad you enjoy our style. We'll keep them coming and maybe this will be an "opportunity" instead of a "bummer" from a UA-cam perspective.
We love watching you both and are glad you got your rig to Jackson Center safely. I know that was a tough drive. We live in St Louis and went to Bandanas tonight and shared your video with our server. They loved it.
Thanks for watching! Your comment "made our day" to hear that you shared our video with your server.
Sorry to hear about the Luv Sub. Hope repairs work out. Looking forward to the next adventure.
Thanks Camp Fire Rob! We'll get her fixed and out on the road again as soon as we can.
So I was thinking about your cracked frame and I know I’ve heard about it a few times on airstreams, but I was wondering about how the weight distribution is set up. On the video, I stopped it and saw the front of your trailer distribution set up. I was excited to see that you use an equalizer, but I feel that you have that set up lower than it should be for that trailer and your truck. It looks like you have old weight distribution parts, still connected to your trailer and possibly the equalizer bars were set up to go underneath that. Maybe if you deleted or dismantled the old distribution set up and reset your equalizer hitch higher it might not put as much stress on your trailer and thus cause failure of the frame.
Thanks for watching! Actually, we have used the Equal-i-zer OnTarget measuring device to check whether our hitch is set up properly. It uses laser measurements with the weight distribution off and then again with the WD applied. Equal-i-zer says the result should be between 75% and 92% with being as close to 100% as possible. Mine came out to 92%. I sent the results to Equal-i-zer and they confirmed that it was set up correctly. As an aside, the old hitch parts were a Reece system. It was never set up properly by the dealership because our propane tanks got in the way of the attachment point resulting in the chains never being perpendicular to the ground. When the previous crack happened in 2015, it was with the Reece system so I am not sure if the hitch is a contributing factor.
You sure it’s not the tow vehicle?
Thanks for watching! We are sure it's not the truck. This is a common issue with this model/year Airstream. We have two other friends in our Club with the same model and theirs cracked as well. Our first crack occurred on the other side in 2015. At the time, we had a different truck and a different. hitch.
We are very sorry to hear about your trailer. We really like your practical approach to Airstreamering, particularly for us folks that have a smaller unit and will miss your updates. We are relatively new to Airstreaming and your channel. We know that you have been at it for a while and would love to hear your story- how did you get into this lifestyle and how has your travel evolved over the years? What are some of the highlights from your past travels?
Thanks so much for watching and the super nice comments on our channel. We have too much fun with UA-cam so we won't be stopping - just pivoting for a while. Thanks for the content suggestions.
So sorry for the unexpected experience, but we're looking forward to your journey through the repair. Maureen and I enjoyed visiting with you in Sedalia, and we also enjoyed a dinner at Bandanas Bar-B-Q! The service abd meal were both excellent. J&M #24784
Thanks for watching and hanging out with us in Sedalia. It was a great time and we have already registered for York. I'm sure there will be some great places to visit there as well.
You might have to post some home fix it videos- were gunna watch it - have a great Thanksgiving and Christmas 🍻
Thanks for watching! We're bouncing around a number of topics so hopefully it won't come down to me fixing a dishwasher 😀 C and I hope you have a great holiday season as well...
Wow a frame crack 😮 you say “this is common with THIS type of Airstream. What type is that? The year? The model? I have a 2022 23’ Globetrotter and am not excited to think that a frame crack is inevitable 😢
Thanks for watching! You have no worries. Airstream tried something very different with our trailers. The frame was less rugged, we have no belly pan, and the floor is PSB. As near as I can tell, the problem exists only with the 22' trailers in the 2002 - 2004/5 ish time period.
@@LuvSubbin, did the frame crack cause the refrigerator to come loose, or is that another problem?
So sorry to hear that guys. How did you become aware of the frame crack? Did it make a noise or just a visual find during a checklist procedure?
Thanks guys! We were bummed to but Jackson Center will do a good job fixing her up. Have fun in the UK - we did some narrow boating on the Avon Kennett Canal in 2013 and loved it.
Yes, Bandana’s in Sedalia was amazing! Sorry that you are needing repairs to your Airstream.
Thanks for watching! The Airstream Techs went back a couple of times so we knew it had to be good. Jackson Center will get her all fixed up and we'll be on the road soon (we hope).
Oh no! I’m so sorry😢
Thanks for watching! Yup. Total bummer. That's life. We're going to do what needs to be done by the best folks possible (Jackson Center) and then get back on the road.
This was such a mix of emotions! Happy you were at Sedalia and got to experience the beautiful town with all the sights and sounds. Sad you have to leave the Luv Sub. 🥲 What an exhausting several days for you guys. We are glad you are home safely.... but OMG, we will miss you out here. We will be in Arizona for 4 months, you could come where it is warm and we could adventure together? -Best regards friends! - Jim & Michelle
Thanks guys! Yes, we were exhausted. Every bump we hit I envisioned something really bad happening. We saw that you will be attending that content creator campout in Florida. We may still go to the Tampa RV Show (and stay in a hotel) so maybe we will still be able to catch up. Safe travels...
Sorry to hear about the frame issue. Is this model year prone to frame issues? Will you please describe what needs to be done to fix it an what other improvements you can get done to make it even better? Will any of the costs be covered with insurance? Are there policies for covering this kind of problem? I'll still check "every Tuesday" for news from Vermont!
Thanks for watching! Airstream tried a different frame design with our model Airstream. The design was less rugged, we have no belly pan, and the floor was PSB. The problem is limited to the 22' model in the 2002 - 2004/5 ish model years. They will weld it back together and add reinforcements. We'll show what that looks like when we get it back. We are very happy with how Airstream is treating us.
How about a series of installments profiling the RVs you look at for a replacement? Seriously, a second frame crack? That's too many!
If you're thinking 'trains' - consider a ride on the Rocky Mountaineer, or the Trans-Canada.... good luck with the sub's repair!
Thanks for watching and the suggestions. Yes, Airstream tried something different with our frame on the 22's in 2002 - 2004/5 and that obviously didn't work. We are looking at some Amtrak trains and those Canadian ones have always been on our list.
Just curious - how did you discover the cracked frame?
I was wondering the same thing 🤔
Thanks for watching! Things started shifting on the inside which is a sure sign that the floor and frame were flexing excessively. First the wall behind my dinette shifted but I chalked that off to a rough stretch of road on I-91. When the fridge came off the wall, that's when I started looking closer and noticed the crack (It's right over the fridge). Note our Airstream does not have a belly plan so the frame is easy to see. Actually, from a towing perspective you would never notice anything was wrong.
Thanks for watching! See the below answer for an explanation (I can't seem to copy/paste).
Sorry to hear about the frame failure.
Our 2022 Airstream Basecamp 20x is going to Jackson Center for its 4th warranty work appointment in three years. Disappointing but JC is more expedient than the dealer.
Untelated, but we are planning a fly/train national park trip next fall for our 40th anniversary. Empire Builder from Glacier National Park to Chicago, then home to western NY.
Thanks for watching! Yes, the frame is a bummer but when we add up all the joy this Airstream has given us over the years, we are still WAY on the positive side of things. We are also planning on some train travel. We're looking at the California Zephyr...
Sorry to hear of your travails. We hope to see you in York.
Thanks for watching! Just before sitting down to answer UA-cam comments we registered for York. We will be there and doing the Vendor/Exhibitor Chairs again. See you then!
Maybe the AS dealers can rent or lone you a as to try at thair location like a info murshel spend this winter in the snow bird spots
Thanks for watching! Funny - as UA-camrs that is something we are very bad at. We thought about asking Airstream - or even another brand - to loan us a unit to test while ours is in the shop. It just doesn't feel right to us to ask but if someone offers...
I love BBQ! Safe travels.
Thanks for watching! I've yet to find anyone (except vegetarians) that don't like BBQ...
Sorry about your frame experience. Thanks for sharing it. I would like to see some videos like ‘Top 10 Americana ‘ sites you have visited, and perhaps your ‘Top 10 Road trips of all time’, or best and worst routes you have taken, and best and worst weather trips. I know with your experiences and great video experiences; you will come up with some really terrific videos
Thanks so much for watching and the great ideas for some future content. We especially like the Top 10 Americana sites. Maybe we can hit a few more before the Sub gets back on the road...
I wonder what improvements could be made. Technically a frame needs a certain amount of flex. What could be improved to prevent this from occuring in the future?
Thanks for watching as always. As I understand it, they will realign the frame and then weld it back together. They then apply some reinforcing braces at the weak point. I'll document the fix when we pick it up.
So sorry to hear about your Airstream troubles. Let us hope they can fix the problem sooner than Jan! In the meantime…SHOW US ALL THE BLOOPERS PLEASE!!!
Thanks for watching! We hope they can get to it sooner rather than later as well. They say they only have a limited number of folks qualified to do that kind of work. And maybe we can work some Bloopers in.
Your Airstream is 17 miles from me. I live in Sidney Ohio , which is the county seat for Shelby County in which Jackson Center is located. I have toured the plant there a couple of times. The frame cacking is a serious issue. The frame is probably supplied by others. So how was your Sky line? Did you notice they put cinnamon in the chili? I wondered why you went north to Lima Ohio when you said you live in Alabama. I want to go to Vermont next fall. Take care.
Thanks for watching! We live in Vermont so we headed north. The Skyline chili was delicious and we could taste the spices. Cindy makes her own and it was very close. We used to live in Toledo so our normal chili love was Tony Packo's...
@@LuvSubbin My daughter went to U.T. I have been to Tony Packo's 2 times. Sorry I got your homestate wrong.
Aww hate to hear about your Sub, but glad you’re getting it fixed! I’d love to see more videos of Cindy cooking (though may have to wait for the airstream fix).
Thanks for watching! We're going to see how we can't work in some different content - to include some Cindy cooking videos.
Sounds like the frame is not up to the job. That kind of problem is found on all trailers that don't have adequate frames for travel.
Thanks for watching! You are correct. Airstream tried a different design for a few years and models that included smaller frame steel, no belly pan, and PSB floors. Obviously it didn't work...
So sorry to hear of your troubles. One crack in the past and now a second?! Why? For ideas on your off time, I’d be interested to see how you plan your trips.
Thanks for watching! Airstream tried a different frame design for the 22' model in 2002 - 2004/5. It used less strong materials, had no belly pan, and the floor was PSB. Obviously, that didn't work. Jackson Center has done enough of them so they are they folks to fix it and get us back on the road.
I hope it's not that bad.
Bad enough...
@@LuvSubbin oh no! At least it's where it should be. I bet you can't wait till Christmas! Are they replacing the frame?
What i did with our Airstream was i started backing off a little with the weight distribution hitch just a little bit to get the frame not to be under that much stress but still felt really good towing. It was just a fine line. I'm not saying that that's the reason for your issue but it's just something to think about.
Just take some that you normally wouldn’t do and make the great videos you always do. I’m sure they will be great.
Thanks for watching! Who knows? Maybe in a couple of years we will see this as the "Great Opportunity" versus the "Bummer" it seems now...
Maybe you could look at a new Airstreams and content could be comparisons between the old & new. They don’t make ‘em like they used to.
Thanks for watching and the ideas for content. We may try just that...
Two frame cracks on a 22 year old trailer. Might it be possible that a newer trailer is in your future?
Thanks for watching! Nope. We are certainly bummed that the frame has issues but hopefully this will be the last fix. We have always said that this trailer will be sold by the Executor of our Estate. We will never sell it...
So sorry, guys! Get a good few days rest and I’m sure you’ll come up with lots of ideas to keep the channel going for the next couple months.
Thanks for watching! The content we come up with may be a little dopey but we have too much fun making our videos to just stop. Hopefully our subscribers will stick around...
How will the Jackson Center crew fix the broken frame? That's a major repair ...
Thanks for watching! As I understand it, they'll jack everything up to realign the frame and then weld it back together. They then affix a number of reinforcing braces. I may not be totally accurate but I'll document the fix once we pick it up.
How about B&B trips throughout New England? Something White Christmas themed. 😊
Thanks Craig! That's a great idea. We've been thinking of visiting the Von Trapp Lodge (Yes, the Sound of Music Trapps) and their brewery in Stowe, VT.
oooooh thats a good one!!!!!!
For the $$$ you would think it would be built better.
Thanks for watching! Airstream made a design change to the frame for the 22' model around 2002 - 2004/5. They used weaker framing, no belly pan, and PSB floors. Obviously, that didn't work and they haven't used that design since.
Train trip would be nice.
Thanks for watching! Yes, we've done some train content and it has done well. We just booked a Roomette on the Silver Meteor down to Florida and am looking into the California Zephyr.
couldn’t a welding shop handle the task?
Thanks for watching! Yes, a welding shop could fix this but the Airstream factory also adds a number of reinforcements at just the right place. They certainly have experience fixing 22's with cracked frames versus a local shop that would be doing it for the first time...
Hello you two- we’re sorry for your inconvenience with the LuvSub at the moment.
Listen, you guys are so very talented and you always provide wonderful content - so we can’t give you a 2/3 month vacation 😮
Both of you have great technical talent and you can do videos sharing that knowledge. Some thoughts on future content could include: what is in store for your 2025 travel plans…..share what equipment you use to produce your videos…..Airstream history…..your 5 favorite trips (in no specific order - no need to nail that ranking down…..equipment you have tried that turned out in a bust 😊…..a short list of things you would like to try (equipment etc)…..how you handle laundry on the road…..and let us in on how your holidays go! 😊
I know we’ll see more of you very soon - so a big thank you to you in advance! 😉
Al and Cathy in Michigan (25 ft Flying Cloud). ☁️
Hi guys! Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment on some future videos. Some of them we have been bouncing around (Airstream history) and some we have already filmed but never released (laundry on the road). We have too much fun making our videos to stop so thank you again for the help.
You all can easily fill the time w/out the Sub by sharing “trip prep” ideas as well as recipes you love while traveling. Sorry about your bad luck. Curious - have you ever thought about trading in the Luv Sub and starting anew?
Thanks for watching and the idea on trip planning and some recipes. No, we will never sell the Sub. Cindy and I joke that the Sub will eventually be sold by the Executor of our Estate. We've had too many great memories and it is just too much a part of our lives to get something else...
We loved Bandanna’s BBQ!!!
Thanks guys! It was delicious. We're very much looking forward to your Sedalia video...
Ever Ben to the Henry ford that’s good for 4 videos
Thanks for watching! That's a good suggestion. We want to head out to Elkhart for some filming so we may do that.
Second! Oh no! 😮 I hope this is just a little drama! Betsy and I will be back in a few hours to see what happened.
So sorry to see it. We vote for a winter train trip!
Second is not bad. The drama is real but we will get her fixed and back out on the road soon.
We’ll give the Sub a hug on Friday!
Hi Craig! Seriously, get a picture. Another one of our friends got one last week. It might make for a fun collage someday.
Rent an RV, lets roll.
Thanks for watching! We looked into renting one of those "See America" Class C's for my sister. Holy guacamole are they expensive! We could probably afford a week and that's probably not worth it... Thanks for the thought though...
We are camping this weekend by telodo stop by
Thanks! Unfortunately, we're already back in Vermont. We do love Toledo (and Tony Packo's).
I am not a fan of Skyline chili. I really enjoy all of the places y’all eat, so maybe do some reviews of hole in the wall places and some Cindy recreation dishes. I hate the sub is down for a bit. We are headed to Cheaha State Park near Anniston, Al for a few days to enjoy fall. Safe travels
Thanks for watching! One of the things we are thinking of is touring some of the RV suppliers (Zip Dee, Dexter) and maybe also some RV brands. There is a new company called Storyteller that manufactures in Birmingham and they invited us to visit. One of the co-owners has an undergrad from Auburn and a grad degree from the Crimson Tide...
Opportunity beckons to circumnavigate 🇺🇸 by railroad on Amtrak. From sea to shining sea. All Aboard!
Thanks for watching! Our train videos have always done well. We are contemplating the California Zephyr during this downtime.
How’s it feel NOT sleeping in the Sub?
Thanks for watching! The Marriott was nice but nothing beats sleeping in the Sub (especially during a rainstorm).
I got some assume wheel chalks at sadalea mane a half a vid
Can I say 23 tradewind ?
You look so exhausted, maybe some self care and get all your check ups done while waiting to get back in your AS
Thanks for watching! Was it that obvious that we were exhausted? 😀 Well, we absolutely were. We worked our butts off at the International Rally and then all the tow days and stress - we are only now catching up.
Just popping in to say I voted for Trump today. It feels good. I don't think I could bare 4 years of that cackling idiot.
O and I flipped the light switch on my way out the door. Real mature I know, but it made me happy. 😊
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Poop! Everything is repairable.
Thanks Tina! That's what we said - poop (or something similar). Jackson Center is the best place to take it and they will get her on the road soon.
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