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Well, let's be honest. Graham Stephan became famous by claiming to teach people his story on how he became a millionaire by doing real estate business (and by using shameless clickbait thumbnails). Only a lot later (couple years in fact) he revealed that most of his income was in fact from youtube and if it wasn't for youtube he'd never even become a millionaire in the first place. It's definitely not as shady as selling people overpriced courses directly but you could easily call that being a fake guru approach. That said I did like many of his videos later on (when they stopped being about him humbly bragging about how surprisingly easy it was for him to become a real estate millionaire) and I sometimes watch a video or two from his channel these days as well.
Im not a fan of Graham. His channel is for teeny boppers. Also a lot of youtubers have commented Graham takes content from lessor known finance youtubers and then waits a few days and comes out of with a similar video just paraphrasing the other youtubers stuff. Basically stealing content.
Finally, someone who said it the way it is. The "gurus" couldn't say it because they're "biased," even the "good ones." It's appreciated that you point all aspects out, thank you.
whenever I see Robert Kiyosaki pop again I always think to myself "what is he known for OTHER than a book about how his friend's dad was rich, and his own poor"? And ehh..... is there anything?
"A new class action lawsuit alleges that several well-known finance UA-camrs, including Graham Stephan, Andrei Jikh, Jaspreet Singh and others, should be held responsible for promoting now-disgraced cryptocurrency exchange FTX." - TechCrunch: Mar 16, 2023
I worked for an MNC as a language and communications trainer for over a decade and here is my experience. Give an audience something for free. 98% will ignore suggestions/ training skills. The 2% who pick it up are either naturally hungry about gaining new skills or are in a crisis and attaining these skills is critical to getting out of the crisis. Now add a currency value to an external training with lower skills, lower experience and people see it as ‘valuable’. The interest or conversion rate increases and more people pay attention though those dropping out or losing interest after sometime hovers around the 80% mark. The ones again that really pick it up are the ones in some crisis. Many gurus can sustain a business because they seek some currency for the advice they share. This makes their advice ‘valuable’. Second they prey on crisis, real and imagined. Like if I said walk in the morning it’s good for health vs if you don’t walk starting tomorrow you will die in 2 years. Chances are the second statement translates into more action.
10:56 I mean, Graham HAS been pushing shit like FTX hard, and omg the clickbait. I know clickbait is not illegal, but holy hell there's only so many times I can see a shocked face thumbnail with a quote like "IS THIS THE END???" only for him to go "basically just keep buying and holding in index funds, it'll pass" 14 minutes later
Scammers are always riding on the coat tails of real experts. They tweek the truth just enough to take advantage of others for profit. You see it in business, online, in churches and other workplaces. Always good to be open minded but somewhat skeptical.
I mean, that first line doesn’t necessarily make them a scammer. Somebody needs to consolidate experts in order to achieve a goal, such as creating a new technology or maintaining critical infrastructure. Without such organization and consolidation from these “scammers”, we wouldn’t live in the world we live in today, technologically.
@@dahleno2014 Agreed. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants. We are learning from the experts and building on their knowledge as a society. We don't have to start from scratch each time to make it valid.
To be fair using Ads to promote your product is how people usually get sales I'd say its a pretty normal thing. You just need to make sure the product is good first.
The people making the ads claim that they made money from using the information in the courses they are promoting in their advertisements. The real reason they got all that money is from selling the courses.
@@Nexil_ the product in this case is a get rich quick scheme, if any of them really worked you could make so much more by doing that instead of selling a program.
@@monkey_d_taha4967 the importance can’t be understated is the same as saying no matter how little you mention something, it’s not infrequent enough. It’s a common error.
@@albeit1 Not if you state it as a restriction. It's another way to express: "You can't afford to understate it". If you take the language too literally, then yes, it is an error. But it shouldn't ring any bells if you're native speaker.
@@monkey_d_taha4967 it’s also expressed as “it’s impossible to overstate the importance of this”. No matter how hard you try, it’s still not emphasizing it enough.
Great video and great points. As a business influencer and as someone shown in this video, I'll say firsthand that theres a very fine line that I need to walk between providing information people want, and teaching the skills that people need. So where is the line? The laws and required legalities around marketing are definitely an inarguable line. Beyond that, you have merchant processors, and their corresponding blacklist, that will shutdown products/services that get too many disputes, thats another good line. Beyond that, it probably comes down to personal preference. I'd argue that 'cultlike' tactics within an online teachers community are pretty dangerous and should be considered as a red flag, although there are extremely famous 'gurus' (ie. tony robbins, andrew tate) who exude these tactics and have a generally good public opinion and positive reviews. So how to *really* separate good from bad? Free content: I'm a big believer that providing freely available content, and LOTS of it, is a pretty good activity for anyone in the teaching industry. Just like (arguably) the first teacher, Socrates, would give free information out by basically teaching for free in the Athens town plaza to get his students, I believe free content is at least a show of good intentions; that the teacher is actively engaged with the community, and not a flash in the pan. That said, theres definitely folks out there producing lots of content, that have no success or track record in the industry they're talking about. Verifiable success / track record in industry: If Warren Buffet provides a stock tip, obviously thats good to follow, even if he doesnt put out free content, because his track record is unparalleled. Your success is obvious to me at least, as I'm a megafan/customer of soylent (I think you should bring in more personal experience shares on your videos btw). Most of the most successful marketers/traders/investors are completely unknown though, and unwilling to teach. The claim Tony Robbins makes about 'manifesting' his success cant necessarily be backed up (how do you get proof of manifestation?!) just as Tai Lopez's claim that he bought his lamborghini because he read a lot of books. As someone with a venture-backed startup myself, I see the same sorts of misdirection is unfortunately just as, if not more, common amongst startups raising exponentially higher sums of money than the $1000 or whatnot people pay for online courses. Aggressive marketing: Just as ecom products need to offer and present a normal product (lets say protein shakes) in a very unique and appealing fashion, with unique benefits in order to make D2C customer acquisition work at scale, so do information marketers need to present their information in a unique and appealing fashion. "Im in my garage with my lamborghini..." , "I bought this multi-million dollar house with internet residuals , "Im a 24yearold multimillionaire from shorting stocks" , etc., are all examples of this that speak to what folks really want from education, in a more appealing fashion. The college pitch "goto school for 4-10 years and earn a comfortable, consistent salary as long as you put up with a command-and-control work environment...with dental benefits", although the standard, is not a very appealing pitch anymore, if even a trustworthy one. Personally, I believe we are undergoing an absolute revolution with how people are learning, and we are just at the infancy stages of it. I agree that specialized courses into a topic are the most important. Ad data analysis, proper split-testing methodology, D2C tiktok advertising, copywriting, branding, building an engaged community, etc are all examples of what I find to be useful skills, yet the majority of folks that desire to get into a particular industry such as starting an 1m/m ecom store or whatever, are not seeking out courses on these topics. They learn these parts through experience, after they've been motivated down the ecom/affiliate path. Hence the majority of activity in the market for teachers/info is focused at a higher level (ie. make money with stocks! crypto! real estate! ecom!) rather than the specific skills. This is similar to college with majors (finance! accounting! marketing!) rather than marketing the individual classes (ie. 'Valuation disputes and advocacy' .... yawn) I believe that some sort of standard needs to emerge for whom folks are learning from, and what they are earning, and from what job position/title. That would allow correlations to be drawn between what courses a person completed, and the corresponding teachers they learned from, with a verifiable measure of success (income or something). This sort of data could also help inform folks as to what course/path they should take next professionally. I find blockcerts as an interesting development in this space, as well as edu platforms that are direct feeders into specific jobs in specific companies, such as what Coursera does for Google/Nvidia/etc.
one line i've always drawn is at criticism. If a guru only talks about all the opportunity and talks as if things could never go wrong they are a fake guru. Also if they cant criticize and be skeptical, unless being skeptical of that thing is something they can use to their benefit. major red flag.
John, great channel and great show as always. I started following a lot of these fake gurus a few years ago, but realized they were all shysters, because all their videos do is tell you what they are going to tell you, once you pay the money. Also, the thumbnails for the videos are a complete giveaway. Whenever you see a thumbnail with the UA-camr posing in what is obviously a fake expression of fear, anger or concern, you know it's b*******. It is simply clickbait, to get you to click. I think the best strategy for all of these guys is to watch, but then do your own research to make sure it's not all BS...
My simple rule to detect fake gurus is this. Verify their track record, did they become successful and make money outside of what they are selling? Their course/book whatever should be a tiny % of their income, otherwise people who buy it are likely the suckers
I really don't understand why you only have 257k subscribers, this is top notch content!! Even if I'm not in the mood for watching something that makes me thing, when I get a suggestion from your channel I still watch the video
Ray Dalio is genuine and want's to truly give back to humanity what he learned in life. And I saw his video on economics and it is brilliant and simple it's almost a work of art.
When he said: "Online courses is one of the most powerful ways to learn new skills...", I was thinking: "Damn, looks like Skillshare sponsored this vid". Nope, LMAO...
I really liked this video. I think there are many talented people who would make excellent online instructors but are afraid to start because they don't want to be labeled a "fake guru". There's a stigma against making money online with courses. But I also think there is a huge market for it; I've paid for several excellent online courses myself. I'll send this to anyone who has doubts.
"Selling information" on vague aspirational topics (self help, get rich) is a good smell test, especially if you consider the price charged. Just wish more people understood this. Tai Lopez should not be relevant.
Yes!!! I knew that book by Kiyosaki was just straight garbage! I read about three or four chapters but couldn't stomach it ! I run a business now. It's legitimately very hard. I only listen to people who have actually done something extremely, technically difficult
@@jordanp8151 no, they definitely did not. Please don’t make up lies lol. I watch all of grahams videos so Ik he didn’t. As for meet Kevin idk, but Graham is an honest person.
I really want to be a guru due to the amount of passion i have to teach, but for the past 7 years i have not published one thing until i make sure that i am actually successful on my own with my own business experiments only then i think i can teach my journey with reasonable expectations and price, i believe we should always give more than what we promise to gain trust and respect.
There is a difference between an investor and an entrepreneur. And there are huge differences from where you start or under which circumstances you are living. Everybody talks about the shiny stuff, the winners, but nobody counts all the corpses from the different fallouts and black swans. My own dad made a fortune in his life but he also inherited one and mom… she worked hard and married the right guy and stood by him. My most valuable lesson from him: don’t listen to anybody when it comes to your finances except for education when you are still young without anything to lose.
MAN YOU ARE FOR REAL . VERY REAL . I HAVE SEEN A BUNCH OF YOUR VIDEO TODAY AND YOU I THINK COME IN THE TOP MOST VALUE PUMPING PEOPLE ONLINE GIVING KNOWLEDGE AND ADVICE. GENEUINELY, THANK YOU FOR DOING UA-cam MAN. (SIR 🙏)
I will say at the beginning Tai Lopez 67 steps was amazing for me. Completely changed my life and changed my mindset. But after that. The rest of his “courses” seemed scammy and grabs for money.
It's very interesting to me that you never voiced the words ethics or morals. You present a solid logical reasoning framework. I think Ayn Rand would approve.
Ethics and morals have no place in the world of finance..............or have you not noticed? The game, is to aim to be precieved as moral, yet operate as ruthlessly as possible. A fundraiser to help raise money to provide chemotherapy for cancer stricken children..................no, it's another way to add a few more Mercedes to their collection of over 100 automobiles. None. Not a one. Not a single millionaire, or billionaire, have ever become successful worrying themselves about what is wrong or right. Here's their metric.............doesn't make profit=bad, makes profit=good.
Thank you for provided your insight into this topic. I am constantly bombarded with information about the next big things. It's all about doing your due diligent and making a informed decision that might benefit you and won't break your bank. Thanks again!
Great video on an important topic! This hits hard because one of my former close buddies has built a million-dollar empire promoting garbage and funding others to promote. I'm almost a bit jealous seeing how well he's doing, he's a guest on national news networks discussing the economy, special guest with motivational speakers (Dani Johnson features him regularly) spends much of his time flying around Europe and living the good life. Three years ago we were discussing a business opportunity where I was going to help his team build something of a business incubator with a match and rank system to pair investors with investment opportunity that meet their investment criteria. He bailed to move into crypto promotional scams. Tried talking him out of it and he's since cut all ties. This is someone I've been friends with for almost twenty years. Sad what folks will do just to "get ahead"
Idea-- UA-cam financial 'gurus' should donate the money they received from FTX to charity or to a fund that should be established to reimburse defrauded FTX customers
Depending on a guru is a sign mental laziness. And every form of laziness comes at a price. There's a knowledge for the wise, even from the lips of a child. Listen with care and learn to think through issues.
I watched Graham last time probably few years ago. He has some good advices but they are focused on NA mostly. Nobody from Europe and especially poor parts of Europe can apply that. Imagine earning 300-400$ per month, you can't even buy decent food nonetheless invest or do anything else.
Graham has also promoted scammy coins like doge coin. I feel like he should stick with what he knows which is real estate. When these gurus have a false sense of confidence after making a lot of money doing one thing or being a faking grifter they attempt to become a jack of all trades. That’s when you need to stop listening to them. One person can be good at 1 or very few things, but when they start giving “expert advice” on multiple things for example: forex, crypto, index funds, real estate, taxes, running a business etc. They are a scammer. No one is capable of things like that. A CEO or actually successful guru whatever you want to call them will pay for people’s expertise in certain areas and be an expertise in the few they actually know. No one is wildly successful nor making tons of money being an expert in 10 different things it’s not possible that is what we call a scammer.
@@LowValueMan hee what are you talking about yes he did talk about crypto but he also always tell you to be aware, careful and that it COULD be a good investment
Ethics. If you don’t invest with ethics don’t call your self good. Not the quantity of gains from the return, but the quality that investment brings to society. When you sacrifice ethics for profits someone ALWAYS gets hurt.
Interesting video- I find false business guru's fascinating and find it sad that so many fall for their snake oil. It's also ironic that I immediately get a silly advert by some actresss pretending she got rich by drop shipping!
as I was watching the video the first name that popped into my mind was graham Stephen but then I got to the end of the video... I don't know who to trust anymore!
Last year my buddies and I met a drunk couple at a casino that wouldn’t stop giving us advice on stocks….that day turned out to me the highest my portfolio ever reached in value. I’ve lost OVER 90% of what I had then. So yeah I should have done what Kennedy did in 1929
If finance was really as easy as these gurus say, I'm quite shocked why people at big banks and hedge funds go through years of studying at academia. It's so easy lmao
@@gidd you know a lot of self-made hedge fund founders that came from nothing? Lol what. Obviously there are many paths for people of low means to become self made but I would say the hedge fund route is the least likely.
I think online courses is everyone’s next university. In 10 years, NO ONE will be attending college campuses no more. Or if so, veeery few. Online is where it’s at. Great video!
I'm a university professor and I can tell you last year maybe 10% still attended classes in person. It pains me to say it but 10 years may be too conservative an estimate.
I miss those days where you can sit beside a person in a class and see them physically and interact with them beside academics during breaks and the black board. Online classes sucks in terms of quality and experience of learning. And in my opinion, physical classrooms will still exist like how physical books exist in spite of ebooks and computer. It is just not some people's cup of tea as a learning platform.
Online courses are good if you want to learn a skill, but that's about it. University with college campuses offers much more. Being in an academic environment and being able to interact and engage in discussions with other students and lecturers provide tremendous benefits. Not only it deepen your knowledge in your area of expertise, it also helps develop your interpersonal skills and networking, and can also provide boost in morale and motivation in your academic pursuit. So yeah, I don't think university going anywhere anytime soon.
What I find most humorous is the way most people think about people like Graham Stephan or "real estate professionals" as many a realtor will call themselves. Real estate professionals are sales people. Period. End of story. I would say 99% of them know absolutely nothing about construction, have never pounded a nail while framing a wall, never did any plumbing or electrical work and couldnt tell you a thing about the concrete used for the foundation or how to finish it or the sheetrock needed to complete a rehab. But they're a 'professional' because they had to pass a test to get their real estate license. Much the same way a truck driver is a professional because they also had to pass tests to get their license(s).
I think what is implied in "real estate professionals" is more that they know the market and what distinguishes a good property deal from a bad one - not that they have any clue on how to construct a home.
I'm 22 , currently these fake gurus still make no sense to me, maybe because i took an advice seriously way back 4 years ago ( Charlie Munger's ) but still I don't do investing because i Don't have a penny to do so. A simple advice: Instead of paying 1000 dollars to some fake courses, you can lose them. why not invest those 1000 bucks as your first investment, maybe you lose 1000 but you'll learn your own taste of knowledge out of that failure. Cause either way you'll lose 1000 by spending on some fake courses. Learn by mistakes and chose your learning areas wisely people.
Still no concrete answer to the question after the whole video. I think teachers or gurus are like different flavours of chips. Only after taste testing and figuring out their truth, you can know if what they are saying is for you or not. And nobody spends too much in taste testing, just try out the freebies. See if their freebie stuff works for you or not first.
This is a very unique video that I wasn’t expecting to see on your channel. It is so well done and I something a lot of people don’t think when starting their own businesses (where to look to learn). Thanks for another great video.
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Well, let's be honest. Graham Stephan became famous by claiming to teach people his story on how he became a millionaire by doing real estate business (and by using shameless clickbait thumbnails). Only a lot later (couple years in fact) he revealed that most of his income was in fact from youtube and if it wasn't for youtube he'd never even become a millionaire in the first place. It's definitely not as shady as selling people overpriced courses directly but you could easily call that being a fake guru approach.
That said I did like many of his videos later on (when they stopped being about him humbly bragging about how surprisingly easy it was for him to become a real estate millionaire) and I sometimes watch a video or two from his channel these days as well.
He got rich off UA-cam and advertising. He didn’t provide any good real estate info.
Im not a fan of Graham. His channel is for teeny boppers. Also a lot of youtubers have commented Graham takes content from lessor known finance youtubers and then waits a few days and comes out of with a similar video just paraphrasing the other youtubers stuff. Basically stealing content.
He was a millionaire before he did UA-cam. Was selling as a realtor
He for his first 4 property’s bc of his income from real estate sells
@@TartarianTopG he wasn’t a millionaire. His 2 homes were not paid off. He was paying a mortgage on them
They sure do blast ads. Thanks for exposing fake gurus! I'll get more into reading and doing !
We need more people like coffezilla and this channel, keep it up!
Would you become a sellout if a certain priject in nft wi offer you 100k?
Finally, someone who said it the way it is. The "gurus" couldn't say it because they're "biased," even the "good ones." It's appreciated that you point all aspects out, thank you.
whenever I see Robert Kiyosaki pop again I always think to myself "what is he known for OTHER than a book about how his friend's dad was rich, and his own poor"? And ehh..... is there anything?
And that book was fiction with some sketchy business advice (apart from accrue assests and reduce liabilities- which is the most basic accounting!)
This has not aged well for Graham Stephan
"A new class action lawsuit alleges that several well-known finance UA-camrs, including Graham Stephan, Andrei Jikh, Jaspreet Singh and others, should be held responsible for promoting now-disgraced cryptocurrency exchange FTX."
- TechCrunch: Mar 16, 2023
I worked for an MNC as a language and communications trainer for over a decade and here is my experience. Give an audience something for free. 98% will ignore suggestions/ training skills. The 2% who pick it up are either naturally hungry about gaining new skills or are in a crisis and attaining these skills is critical to getting out of the crisis. Now add a currency value to an external training with lower skills, lower experience and people see it as ‘valuable’. The interest or conversion rate increases and more people pay attention though those dropping out or losing interest after sometime hovers around the 80% mark. The ones again that really pick it up are the ones in some crisis. Many gurus can sustain a business because they seek some currency for the advice they share. This makes their advice ‘valuable’. Second they prey on crisis, real and imagined. Like if I said walk in the morning it’s good for health vs if you don’t walk starting tomorrow you will die in 2 years. Chances are the second statement translates into more action.
Wow 👌
Yes but what's your solution to the problem you've outlined here? Don't charge for teaching someone a skill because they are "in a crisis"?
But this does not say anything about whether the information a 'guru' says is true .
Thank you for this really appreciate the genuine people in the comment section wanting to help and make people think differently
10:56 I mean, Graham HAS been pushing shit like FTX hard, and omg the clickbait. I know clickbait is not illegal, but holy hell there's only so many times I can see a shocked face thumbnail with a quote like "IS THIS THE END???" only for him to go "basically just keep buying and holding in index funds, it'll pass" 14 minutes later
Scammers are always riding on the coat tails of real experts. They tweek the truth just enough to take advantage of others for profit. You see it in business, online, in churches and other workplaces. Always good to be open minded but somewhat skeptical.
I mean, that first line doesn’t necessarily make them a scammer. Somebody needs to consolidate experts in order to achieve a goal, such as creating a new technology or maintaining critical infrastructure. Without such organization and consolidation from these “scammers”, we wouldn’t live in the world we live in today, technologically.
This is such a well edited video... without saying anything lol. What a waste of time.
@@dahleno2014 Agreed. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants. We are learning from the experts and building on their knowledge as a society. We don't have to start from scratch each time to make it valid.
To be fair using Ads to promote your product is how people usually get sales I'd say its a pretty normal thing. You just need to make sure the product is good first.
Did you not watch the whole thing?
The people making the ads claim that they made money from using the information in the courses they are promoting in their advertisements. The real reason they got all that money is from selling the courses.
Why make a good product when more money on ads?
@@EliteSniperTV Regardless of if the product is good you need to advertise your product it doesn't matter how good it is if nobody sees it
@@Nexil_ the product in this case is a get rich quick scheme, if any of them really worked you could make so much more by doing that instead of selling a program.
“The importance of reading can’t be understated.”
I would argue the opposite. It’s so important that it’s impossible to overstate how important it is.
That's not the opposite. He said it as a restriction whereas you said it as a possibility.
Both are right. There's no argument lol.
@@monkey_d_taha4967 the importance can’t be understated is the same as saying no matter how little you mention something, it’s not infrequent enough.
It’s a common error.
Perfect
@@albeit1 Not if you state it as a restriction. It's another way to express: "You can't afford to understate it".
If you take the language too literally, then yes, it is an error. But it shouldn't ring any bells if you're native speaker.
@@monkey_d_taha4967 it’s also expressed as “it’s impossible to overstate the importance of this”. No matter how hard you try, it’s still not emphasizing it enough.
The irony in getting an ad thats literally a "guru" with a whiteboard behind him halfway through this video 🤣
It’s shows you that people will do anything for revenue.
I don't think he can choose who the ads are from lol
@@jayo3074 no he cant im just saying youtubes algorithm is a mf for that one lmao
Great video and great points. As a business influencer and as someone shown in this video, I'll say firsthand that theres a very fine line that I need to walk between providing information people want, and teaching the skills that people need.
So where is the line? The laws and required legalities around marketing are definitely an inarguable line. Beyond that, you have merchant processors, and their corresponding blacklist, that will shutdown products/services that get too many disputes, thats another good line. Beyond that, it probably comes down to personal preference. I'd argue that 'cultlike' tactics within an online teachers community are pretty dangerous and should be considered as a red flag, although there are extremely famous 'gurus' (ie. tony robbins, andrew tate) who exude these tactics and have a generally good public opinion and positive reviews.
So how to *really* separate good from bad?
Free content: I'm a big believer that providing freely available content, and LOTS of it, is a pretty good activity for anyone in the teaching industry. Just like (arguably) the first teacher, Socrates, would give free information out by basically teaching for free in the Athens town plaza to get his students, I believe free content is at least a show of good intentions; that the teacher is actively engaged with the community, and not a flash in the pan. That said, theres definitely folks out there producing lots of content, that have no success or track record in the industry they're talking about.
Verifiable success / track record in industry: If Warren Buffet provides a stock tip, obviously thats good to follow, even if he doesnt put out free content, because his track record is unparalleled. Your success is obvious to me at least, as I'm a megafan/customer of soylent (I think you should bring in more personal experience shares on your videos btw). Most of the most successful marketers/traders/investors are completely unknown though, and unwilling to teach. The claim Tony Robbins makes about 'manifesting' his success cant necessarily be backed up (how do you get proof of manifestation?!) just as Tai Lopez's claim that he bought his lamborghini because he read a lot of books. As someone with a venture-backed startup myself, I see the same sorts of misdirection is unfortunately just as, if not more, common amongst startups raising exponentially higher sums of money than the $1000 or whatnot people pay for online courses.
Aggressive marketing: Just as ecom products need to offer and present a normal product (lets say protein shakes) in a very unique and appealing fashion, with unique benefits in order to make D2C customer acquisition work at scale, so do information marketers need to present their information in a unique and appealing fashion. "Im in my garage with my lamborghini..." , "I bought this multi-million dollar house with internet residuals , "Im a 24yearold multimillionaire from shorting stocks" , etc., are all examples of this that speak to what folks really want from education, in a more appealing fashion. The college pitch "goto school for 4-10 years and earn a comfortable, consistent salary as long as you put up with a command-and-control work environment...with dental benefits", although the standard, is not a very appealing pitch anymore, if even a trustworthy one.
Personally, I believe we are undergoing an absolute revolution with how people are learning, and we are just at the infancy stages of it. I agree that specialized courses into a topic are the most important. Ad data analysis, proper split-testing methodology, D2C tiktok advertising, copywriting, branding, building an engaged community, etc are all examples of what I find to be useful skills, yet the majority of folks that desire to get into a particular industry such as starting an 1m/m ecom store or whatever, are not seeking out courses on these topics. They learn these parts through experience, after they've been motivated down the ecom/affiliate path. Hence the majority of activity in the market for teachers/info is focused at a higher level (ie. make money with stocks! crypto! real estate! ecom!) rather than the specific skills. This is similar to college with majors (finance! accounting! marketing!) rather than marketing the individual classes (ie. 'Valuation disputes and advocacy' .... yawn)
I believe that some sort of standard needs to emerge for whom folks are learning from, and what they are earning, and from what job position/title. That would allow correlations to be drawn between what courses a person completed, and the corresponding teachers they learned from, with a verifiable measure of success (income or something). This sort of data could also help inform folks as to what course/path they should take next professionally. I find blockcerts as an interesting development in this space, as well as edu platforms that are direct feeders into specific jobs in specific companies, such as what Coursera does for Google/Nvidia/etc.
Graham Stephan is the only person I've ever seen that's looks like a man and a toddler at the same time.
And he is definitely 🏳️🌈🌈
There is no line. It's all one big shapeless, quivering mass of flesh and narcissism.
I find it amusing (ironic?) that whenever I watch a video like this the YT advertising algorithm inserts ads for passive income.
one line i've always drawn is at criticism. If a guru only talks about all the opportunity and talks as if things could never go wrong they are a fake guru. Also if they cant criticize and be skeptical, unless being skeptical of that thing is something they can use to their benefit. major red flag.
Waiting for Graham Stephan to react to this video. Great video 👍
John, great channel and great show as always.
I started following a lot of these fake gurus a few years ago, but realized they were all shysters, because all their videos do is tell you what they are going to tell you, once you pay the money.
Also, the thumbnails for the videos are a complete giveaway. Whenever you see a thumbnail with the UA-camr posing in what is obviously a fake expression of fear, anger or concern, you know it's b*******. It is simply clickbait, to get you to click.
I think the best strategy for all of these guys is to watch, but then do your own research to make sure it's not all BS...
You could describe the thumbnail of this very video in the way you describe giveaway thumbnails.....and yet you found this video useful.....
@@johncreech Yep, sometimes the headline trumps the thumbnail.
My simple rule to detect fake gurus is this. Verify their track record, did they become successful and make money outside of what they are selling? Their course/book whatever should be a tiny % of their income, otherwise people who buy it are likely the suckers
Jikh and stephan are downgraded for me due to ftx and blockfi
I really don't understand why you only have 257k subscribers, this is top notch content!! Even if I'm not in the mood for watching something that makes me thing, when I get a suggestion from your channel I still watch the video
Ray Dalio is genuine and want's to truly give back to humanity what he learned in life.
And I saw his video on economics and it is brilliant and simple it's almost a work of art.
When he said: "Online courses is one of the most powerful ways to learn new skills...", I was thinking: "Damn, looks like Skillshare sponsored this vid". Nope, LMAO...
Udemy is pretty good so far
I really liked this video. I think there are many talented people who would make excellent online instructors but are afraid to start because they don't want to be labeled a "fake guru". There's a stigma against making money online with courses. But I also think there is a huge market for it; I've paid for several excellent online courses myself. I'll send this to anyone who has doubts.
Send brooo
@@BrockMolden hes just trynna pawn off his shit scam course to u
On Phil Knight, I'll quote the Joker. "When you're good at something, never give it away for free."
after watching a Grahams video advice about something my head is like a balloon without any usable information to work with.
great video, thanks John!
I used to construction. Once all the workers started talking stocks everyday I knew it was time to take some profits.
"Selling information" on vague aspirational topics (self help, get rich) is a good smell test, especially if you consider the price charged. Just wish more people understood this. Tai Lopez should not be relevant.
This video is 10 years or more too late, sadly casualties are higher than ever before.
Liked/subbed amazing short video.
John Coogan with exceptional content as always !
Yes!!! I knew that book by Kiyosaki was just straight garbage! I read about three or four chapters but couldn't stomach it !
I run a business now. It's legitimately very hard. I only listen to people who have actually done something extremely, technically difficult
This is a promotional video for Graham Stephen
One of your best videos yet.
Thanks for exposing these fake gurus. Most of them have no ideas, but take people’s money for nonsense courses.
Think pointing out Graham was a safe bet, UA-camrs like Meet Kevin walk that line a lot closer
Pretty sure Graham and Kevin both pumped a shady crypto project about a year ago
@@jordanp8151 no. Lol
@@jordanp8151 no, they definitely did not. Please don’t make up lies lol. I watch all of grahams videos so Ik he didn’t. As for meet Kevin idk, but Graham is an honest person.
@@lorenebonsu146 did you watch the video in my reply above?
@@WookieSenshi yes they did pump fluki inu
I really want to be a guru due to the amount of passion i have to teach, but for the past 7 years i have not published one thing until i make sure that i am actually successful on my own with my own business experiments only then i think i can teach my journey with reasonable expectations and price, i believe we should always give more than what we promise to gain trust and respect.
Good man!
There is a difference between an investor and an entrepreneur. And there are huge differences from where you start or under which circumstances you are living. Everybody talks about the shiny stuff, the winners, but nobody counts all the corpses from the different fallouts and black swans. My own dad made a fortune in his life but he also inherited one and mom… she worked hard and married the right guy and stood by him. My most valuable lesson from him: don’t listen to anybody when it comes to your finances except for education when you are still young without anything to lose.
"For every winner, there are dozens of losers; odds are you're one of them."
MAN YOU ARE FOR REAL . VERY REAL . I HAVE SEEN A BUNCH OF YOUR VIDEO TODAY AND YOU I THINK COME IN THE TOP MOST VALUE PUMPING PEOPLE ONLINE GIVING KNOWLEDGE AND ADVICE.
GENEUINELY, THANK YOU FOR DOING UA-cam MAN. (SIR 🙏)
I will say at the beginning Tai Lopez 67 steps was amazing for me. Completely changed my life and changed my mindset. But after that. The rest of his “courses” seemed scammy and grabs for money.
It’s interesting to me how a regular viewer can’t instantly determine if the person they are watching is full of 💩
a decent amount of fake gurus start off pretty tame and then ramp it up over time.
This channel is underrated
The best part is that during this video I received an ad on a course om how to make money being a motivational speaker.
If everybody knows about an opportunity it's not an opportunity.
When you don't pay, you pay no attention.
It's very interesting to me that you never voiced the words ethics or morals. You present a solid logical reasoning framework. I think Ayn Rand would approve.
He provided a metric to measure lack of ethics in some folks financial advice. So his framework does include ethics, apart from the math.
Ethics and morals have no place in the world of finance..............or have you not noticed? The game, is to aim to be precieved as moral, yet operate as ruthlessly as possible. A fundraiser to help raise money to provide chemotherapy for cancer stricken children..................no, it's another way to add a few more Mercedes to their collection of over 100 automobiles. None. Not a one. Not a single millionaire, or billionaire, have ever become successful worrying themselves about what is wrong or right. Here's their metric.............doesn't make profit=bad, makes profit=good.
Thank you for provided your insight into this topic. I am constantly bombarded with information about the next big things. It's all about doing your due diligent and making a informed decision that might benefit you and won't break your bank. Thanks again!
Great video on an important topic! This hits hard because one of my former close buddies has built a million-dollar empire promoting garbage and funding others to promote. I'm almost a bit jealous seeing how well he's doing, he's a guest on national news networks discussing the economy, special guest with motivational speakers (Dani Johnson features him regularly) spends much of his time flying around Europe and living the good life.
Three years ago we were discussing a business opportunity where I was going to help his team build something of a business incubator with a match and rank system to pair investors with investment opportunity that meet their investment criteria. He bailed to move into crypto promotional scams. Tried talking him out of it and he's since cut all ties. This is someone I've been friends with for almost twenty years.
Sad what folks will do just to "get ahead"
The part in this video about Graham Stephan aged like milk.
Idea-- UA-cam financial 'gurus' should donate the money they received from FTX to charity or to a fund that should be established to reimburse defrauded FTX customers
thank you kindly john for another great video.
Can we start a thread with classes that people have found to be actually worth the money? Classes that delivered on their promise.
Depending on a guru is a sign mental laziness. And every form of laziness comes at a price.
There's a knowledge for the wise, even from the lips of a child.
Listen with care and learn to think through issues.
KNAWLEGE
I watched Graham last time probably few years ago. He has some good advices but they are focused on NA mostly. Nobody from Europe and especially poor parts of Europe can apply that. Imagine earning 300-400$ per month, you can't even buy decent food nonetheless invest or do anything else.
that's a really good point. Advice is very region and circumstance specific.
I actually disagree, I live in central Europe and the stock market and crypto videos have been really usefull
Since graham built his wealth via real estate it really is targeted towards Americans or first world countries.
Graham has also promoted scammy coins like doge coin. I feel like he should stick with what he knows which is real estate. When these gurus have a false sense of confidence after making a lot of money doing one thing or being a faking grifter they attempt to become a jack of all trades. That’s when you need to stop listening to them. One person can be good at 1 or very few things, but when they start giving “expert advice” on multiple things for example: forex, crypto, index funds, real estate, taxes, running a business etc. They are a scammer. No one is capable of things like that. A CEO or actually successful guru whatever you want to call them will pay for people’s expertise in certain areas and be an expertise in the few they actually know. No one is wildly successful nor making tons of money being an expert in 10 different things it’s not possible that is what we call a scammer.
@@LowValueMan hee what are you talking about yes he did talk about crypto but he also always tell you to be aware, careful and that it COULD be a good investment
He promoted FTX. He’s a terrible example. But you made a great video!
I think he got paid to promote that FTX scammer Graham Stephan.
Stop being afraid of houdini has landed me a really good job, computer related jobs is the future you guys
The ironic thing was that the ad I got during this video was for someone shilling a real-estate scheme.
naturally
Just bought John Coogan's new course, so informative. Can't wait to make some bookoo bucks
hahaha
first time seeing a video of yours and your voice is absolutely fantastic. booming, fills up a room, smooth and deep.
John, thank you so much for introducing "Stop Being Afraid of Houdini".. It is exactly my team needed now with unreal engine 5...
John you're a wealth of knowledge and make very good videos... I'm really surprised you don't have more subscribers
Ethics. If you don’t invest with ethics don’t call your self good. Not the quantity of gains from the return, but the quality that investment brings to society. When you sacrifice ethics for profits someone ALWAYS gets hurt.
life is getting harder without the "like dislike- ratio
The Coogan Effect - I see a John Coogan video, I click.
Interesting video- I find false business guru's fascinating and find it sad that so many fall for their snake oil. It's also ironic that I immediately get a silly advert by some actresss pretending she got rich by drop shipping!
Hahaha and at the end of this video I get a scam ad 😂😂
This makes a lot of sense !!!
Good advice John. 9:50 - 9:59 - We've to see their track record at implementing & success of their own advice in the corresponding field
as I was watching the video the first name that popped into my mind was graham Stephen but then I got to the end of the video... I don't know who to trust anymore!
guru means one who dispels darkness, the guru is our own consciousness.
Last year my buddies and I met a drunk couple at a casino that wouldn’t stop giving us advice on stocks….that day turned out to me the highest my portfolio ever reached in value. I’ve lost OVER 90% of what I had then. So yeah I should have done what Kennedy did in 1929
Why did you take their advice?
Or are you being sarcastic?
I'm happy with what you said about Graham Stephan; I trust uncle Graham
Oh god bless you, been waiting for this for a while haha :D
I really enjoy hearing your voice and also your content information is great :)
Havent subbed but I continue to come back for more
Very good video. Thanks for helping to inform people about spotting fakes and charlatans.
The explanation was beautiful
If finance was really as easy as these gurus say, I'm quite shocked why people at big banks and hedge funds go through years of studying at academia. It's so easy lmao
Because they're employees and need certificates
Look at the ones who own/start the fund
some of them are dropouts
@@gidd yes but those people have the money/connections to do that.
@@Roberts1171 I personally know alot of successful people who didn't do university and came from nothing
@@gidd you know a lot of self-made hedge fund founders that came from nothing? Lol what. Obviously there are many paths for people of low means to become self made but I would say the hedge fund route is the least likely.
Next things you know: you're assessing the value vs reality of John Coogan. the cycle never ends.
i feel like the entire video is set up for answering the question in the title but it just never does
There is no line. There are only those who get caught and those who are clever enough to not get caught.
Graham is a good man.
I think online courses is everyone’s next university.
In 10 years, NO ONE will be attending college campuses no more. Or if so, veeery few.
Online is where it’s at. Great video!
I'm a university professor and I can tell you last year maybe 10% still attended classes in person. It pains me to say it but 10 years may be too conservative an estimate.
Hmm, I thought that ten years ago, but I was wrong. I hope you are right.
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I miss those days where you can sit beside a person in a class and see them physically and interact with them beside academics during breaks and the black board. Online classes sucks in terms of quality and experience of learning. And in my opinion, physical classrooms will still exist like how physical books exist in spite of ebooks and computer. It is just not some people's cup of tea as a learning platform.
Online courses are good if you want to learn a skill, but that's about it. University with college campuses offers much more. Being in an academic environment and being able to interact and engage in discussions with other students and lecturers provide tremendous benefits. Not only it deepen your knowledge in your area of expertise, it also helps develop your interpersonal skills and networking, and can also provide boost in morale and motivation in your academic pursuit.
So yeah, I don't think university going anywhere anytime soon.
i like how many examples and counterexamples were mentioned
It's good advice for when you're starting a new job as well. If someone's making a promise that it would change your life be very weary
As a Houdini artist I was not expecting to go in to this seeing a course from one of my friends LOL
If the goal is to get more money, everyone is a fake guru when they have more money than you.
Thought we were gonna get hit with a course pitch at the end lol. Good vid
thanks for the Phil Knight mention. will look into the book
This Video is going to blow up
The greatest depression of our time is the one where Google, Amazon, and Apple go bankrupt.
Awesome thumbnail! 👍
How's mine?
Hey Graham, it’s guys here, good to know I’m not a fake guru😎
Wow you are learning houdini, good to hear buddy, i am on the same path ❤️
What I find most humorous is the way most people think about people like Graham Stephan or "real estate professionals" as many a realtor will call themselves. Real estate professionals are sales people. Period. End of story. I would say 99% of them know absolutely nothing about construction, have never pounded a nail while framing a wall, never did any plumbing or electrical work and couldnt tell you a thing about the concrete used for the foundation or how to finish it or the sheetrock needed to complete a rehab.
But they're a 'professional' because they had to pass a test to get their real estate license. Much the same way a truck driver is a professional because they also had to pass tests to get their license(s).
i mean nobody is claiming hes out there building homes..
Huh 😂
There is a thing call specialization, look it up
I think what is implied in "real estate professionals" is more that they know the market and what distinguishes a good property deal from a bad one - not that they have any clue on how to construct a home.
that's a lot of words devoted to a pretty dumb take. befitting of the username I suppose
400 dollars is not a reasonable price for a online course. 10 - 29.99 is a reasonable price
I'm 22 , currently these fake gurus still make no sense to me, maybe because i took an advice seriously way back 4 years ago ( Charlie Munger's ) but still I don't do investing because i Don't have a penny to do so.
A simple advice: Instead of paying 1000 dollars to some fake courses, you can lose them. why not invest those 1000 bucks as your first investment, maybe you lose 1000 but you'll learn your own taste of knowledge out of that failure. Cause either way you'll lose 1000 by spending on some fake courses. Learn by mistakes and chose your learning areas wisely people.
Still no concrete answer to the question after the whole video.
I think teachers or gurus are like different flavours of chips. Only after taste testing and figuring out their truth, you can know if what they are saying is for you or not. And nobody spends too much in taste testing, just try out the freebies. See if their freebie stuff works for you or not first.
The thing is even the "legit" ones can be a fake guru at some point...all it takes is a slip up if people lose a lot of money as a result
This is a very unique video that I wasn’t expecting to see on your channel. It is so well done and I something a lot of people don’t think when starting their own businesses (where to look to learn). Thanks for another great video.