Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash IS NOT EVEN CLOSE...
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![[RE-RE-UPLOAD] GOKU BLACK VS REVERSE-FLASH: DEATH BATTLE! - REACTION MASHUP DRAGON BALL Z VS DC [AR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0vvEkCQ-rq4/mqdefault.jpg)
Fun fact; they actually got the guy who did the original "It’s me Barry" meme to voice Reverse Flash!
Edit: 1.6K likes! Let’s go!
Really?
@@thedotgiver2820yah check the credits
That’s amazing
And can I just say he did an AMAZING job.
Yeah, Toriyama is not good as consistency now that I think about it.
Nux: "There's no way he'd figure out the ring!"
Reverse Flash: Comes from a world where power rings are very common, thus probably his first thought would be "Maybe that ring is the key!"
Also, wouldn’t RF have won when he disintegrated black along with the ring.
Barry's best friend is Hal Jordan, wielder of a Power Ring, so it's the easiest reference for Thawne to take.
plus Thawne has all the time in the world to analyze Goku Black 😂 this was not close at all
@@Dr.Osterman These guys could read every book in a library in a second if they wanted to.
And reverse flash thinks just as if not slightly faster than Barry who learned every single move in chess in two seconds, learned how to build a apartment complex in under 10 minutes, and sees a suoer computer the way we see dial up internet, thawne could go over hundreds of possibilities in like a second
I think Reverse Flash is Petty enough to steal anything off him. With enough times of "dying" you would eventually hit the point where you gotta try something like that. And stealing the ring off him isn't that hard to do if he is that broken of speeds. The Time BS is insane!
Yeah and even more than just being petty Reverse Flash is a DC level genius, having recreated the Flash's powers from almost nothing on his own. Goku Black, like death battles mentioned, got his power through shortcuts. No matter what Reverse flash would figure something out faster.
It could've also been because at 26:41 when they're in the speedforce thingy Goku Black shows it off and stuff because it was glowing
+ there was a situation where reverse flash had to do something similar, not a ring dieectly but locating a paradox item.
there are entire organizations of people powered by super rings, it isnt that uncommon in dc
It wouldnt even be much of a struggle to do, literally as soon as he makes contact with the ring he could just vibrate it to phase it through the hand thats wearing it alltogether, like scooping it out of a pool of water
"He wants to be syndrome so badly" I mean to be fair, he was Syndrome before Syndrome was created. If anything Syndrome wants to be Reverse Flash.
and who WOULDENT want to be reverse flash
@@voltran7677 ME! I prefer a life of happiness
If Doctor Manhattan can't permanently get rid of reverse flash what the hell is Goku black going to do
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Interesting fact, if I remember correctly Doctor Manhattan’s merger with the DCU made him significantly weaker. He still has all the powers he had in his original universe, but as part of a multiverse, any being powerful enough to threaten a multiverse could harm him. I think Imaginary Axis has a video on it.
Simple he wasn't
Could Dr Manhattan beat Zen-o?
@UnluckyLilly Dr. Manhattan isn't nerf. It's like saying Unicorn is nerfed, for transformers being a part of marvel. The reality is that Dr. Manhattan and Unicorn are now part of verses in which characters are in their level or even above when they normally were the the top dog in their own verses and don't have experience fighting people in their level.
Considering they'd essentially be killing eachother infinitely _until_ one of them figures out a counter, *and* that Reverse Flash is faster, *and* he's smarter when it comes to time travel, *and* he comes from a franchise where power rings are commonplace (think of the Lanterns), it's much more plausible to say he'd destroy the time ring first, than Goku Black figuring out anything about Thawne's living paradox powers.
Not only that but he's also more powerful and it's arguable to say that even if Goku black or zamasu had hakai that probably wouldn't have worked because I'm pretty sure he has resisted time erasure before. Also reverse-flash has wider range of combat experience.
It should also be noted that Super Speed and impressive intelligence combined makes for an extremely scary combination, doubly so with something that comes with the Flash's powerset most don't mention. Reaction time. Thawn had the capability to react to anything he sees or senses even at his maximum speed. This means his mind is able to comprehend and work at speeds beyond anything a normal person could even comprehend. He could have come up with hundreds of not thousands of possible plans of attack, counter attack, and escape options all within the same time it would take Black to use Instant Transmission. It's basically the prep time argument for Bats taken to the extreme. When nano-seconds are like hours to you, you can really mull over your options and figure out what to do. It was only a matter of time until Thawn was like "Huh...that ring of his has the infinity symbol on it. Long shot, but maybe it's fueling his paradox powers. Eh, even if it doesn't, seems pretty petty to steal it. Right up my alley. Let's try that."
@@Keith_Normanhakai doesn't effect a target whose Ki is higher than the user's Current Ki. it would never work on R.flash
Also goku never uses hakai, only once against zamasu and never again.
@@PalewhaleN7The thing is, Goku isnt Black. Though yeah I still know that Reverse Flash dogwalks Black I just wanna point out how Black is way more likely to use Hakai than Goku because as the video says, “He’s not afraid to take shortcuts.”
@@ImBadATMm goku black doesn't know hakai tho? He got goku's body,not his experience, so no kamehameha or kaioken, plus He never used it either, even after fusing
Nux getting mad about powers being stronger than he thought they were with only a surface-level understanding is very Nux.
He says ki lasers, body fusions, and powered up forms are cool. But God forbid a superhero use super speed in more creative ways than just running.
The difference between these two is that one has a time ring, and the other is the time ring
yup, thawnes paradox powers arent equipped, he just is one
@@DarthZ01It's also a Paradox that not anybody can just undo
Barry needs to not hate him to destroy the paradox. Goku Black isn't one to use talk no jutsu lol.
Nux wants to emphasize the low points of characters that are in comics but seems to forget that goku got hurt by a small rock lightly tossed by krillin.
Otaku gonna otaku
yeah but that was after a fight or sum right? and he had no chi or energy to protect him
@@ronaldorobertson4697 Nope, they were just hanging by a river and since Goku wasn't prepared for it, it was just before the cell games but I don't think its in the manga, it harmed him though, its a matter of what you think is cannon or not. Its consistent with how a laser managed to nearly kill Goku via it being fired behind him in resurrection F. The Z fighters aren't innately durable, at least its implied to be the case and though never explicitly stated its related to utilizing their Ki to make the capable of withstanding harm.
Worth noting though that only an anti-fan would argue their durability is THAT bad, similarly to how many DC characters fail to do things that they're clearly capable of in order to make the content of the shows, comics, etc. interesting. Nux has a really hard time rationalizing that stated feats are meaningful regardless of medium. He'll speak from one side of his mouth about the Goku/Beerus clash nearly destroying universe 7 as an effect of their battle, then, when a race between two Flashes, arguably some of the most insanely powerful characters in fiction due to the hacks and reality breaking speed they can access are not to be taken seriously.
In some cases deathbattle is crazy bad about taking outlier feats and applying them, in this case, they HEAVILY downplayed Reverse Flash in order to make the match interesting.
There isn't a character in super below maybe angels and Zeno that could even possibly even threaten Reverse Flash. This matchup was spite incarnate.
@@dr.mr.fuzzyhat4798 ok- but that doesn't make sense because if you're strong as someone like Goku, just because you're not prepared or not realizing some like a damn rock being thrown on your head doesn't mean that magically you being not focused means your strength is gone- that is like saying if I punched the rock in the back while he wasn't paying attention, I would beat him because he clearly didn't see it coming so clearly his strength is weaker. That is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard from a db fan. AND I LIKE DRAGON BALL! but that has to be the dumbest excuse for Goku or anyone in dragon ball. If you want to bash on comic book characters because of their weakest moments then don't throw a fit when comic book fans do the same to anime characters. Cope ya hypocrite
@@thenerd0fthehour7 Bro, did you read my whole comment ? I agree that its crazy to take that rock thing at straight face value.
Nux....bro
...the reason why people are upset with you is not because you don't take statements seriously. It's because you only take ANIME seriously. It essentially becomes a Western hate video for no reason. Even if it is an arc you hate, you will still ride for dragonball or the anime regardless. It's supposed to be fun, and you make it one-sided for no reason. If we put the doctor against goku black, the doctor would know it's the time ring in literal seconds because he knows alot of quote "timey wimey bs"
Pretty much.
dakarai Patterson nux isnt really a real anime fan since he hated fire force,dr.stone,tokyo revengers,reincarnated as pig..his more a fake anime fan.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 nah
@@akatsukigajou1639
Nah. Get your no true Scotsman ass outta here.
To be fair, DC and Marvel have both jumped the shark several dozen times over. The inane hoops they jump through to preserve the status quo will result in heroes and villains alike having feats and powersets that utterly break tension and suspension of disbelief. That being said, that criticism should be levied at the writing of the comics, not at a hypothetical fight.
Personally, I ascrible to Stan Lee's statement on A vs B questions: The winner is whoever the writer decides wins. Which is true regardless of the "sense" it makes. Using sense loosely since, at this point, we are talking about two characters who, by the rules of their own worlds, should not even exist anymore.
According to the Wiki, nothing mentions the Time Ring being unable to be taken off, so Thawne apparently could legitimately remove it.
Kind of makes you wonder if Goku was an intelligent fighter instead of a brute force fighter how many deaths could have been avoided.
Goku is a genius fighter, not a brute force fighter
@@TheRealSlickGoku Which version, Z or Super? Either way, you are correct that Goku is a fighting genius, but when it comes to specific numbers he does fall flat a good amount.
Goku is a genius fighter however even with the world at stake he still wants a fair fight but most importantly this would require experience and IQ to go with the battle IQ for him to take off the ring
@@TheRealSlickGoku I would say Goku is a genius at learning fighting skills not so much strategizing how to use them best. He's the type of guy to wait for Cell to get stronger rather then just obliterate him before hand. Even if Goku notices a ring for example is giving his opponent a power and knows his power set can remove it. He won't becouse that means it would be a less fun fight and Goku can't hit harder when the last attack didn't work.
Reverse Flash to Goku Black: You merely adopted the bullshit time anomaly I am the bullshit time anomaly
“You have a time ring, but I am THE time ring”
One of the biggest factors when it comes to destroying the Time Ring I feel like they should have emphasised further is that R.Flash comes from a universe where powered rings are somewhat common (The Lanterns). Combined with his intelligence and just how fast he is, I feel like it would probably be likely to happen.
Didn't think of that but yeah Reverse Flash would think maybe I should remove the guys jewelry just in case.
That's a good point, also Legion of Superheroes flight rings. Plus if the battle went on long enough due to both being unable to kill one and other eventually he'd just start trying different things to see if it did anything.
I mean that's one way of thinking about it or the fact that his brain is literal supercomputer and sees the world as slow motion which he would probably figure out that he has a device that's keeping him from being destroyed permanently but but yeah they do deal with power rings every day and like they said without the power ring Goku black stood no chance
@@Keith_Norman Sure, but he probably wouldn't think of that right off the bat given Thawne is a living paradox himself and doesn't require any tech to be so. Could just be an innate power. But through a mix of time, intelligence, experience and his speed he'd figure it out sooner or later.
The ring can't be destroyed, they exist for so long as a timeline they are related to exists.
I genuinely love when he watches these deathbattles and he just get filled with copium.😂
Nux when Goku and Berus's fight was stated to be able to destroy the universe: " See! Goku would destroy everyone! They literally said that he could destroy the universe!"
Nux when Flash and Kid Flash race almost destroyed the multiverse "But you can't take that seriusly! It's just a joke, they are obviously not being serius."
I'm fine with the bias, but the blatant hypocrisy is something else, honestly...
It's the cherry picking that bugs me. Like how can you say that a feet isn't valid because it seems to powerful?@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
Destroying an entire multiverse is a better feat than destroying a one universe
@@yarc9especially because the dc universes are much larger than dragonball ones.
a single dc universe is as big as millions of dc universes. so the dc multiverse is already infinitely bigger than the dragon ball multiverse.
Yeah that's what we are saying. The point is that it's annoying when Nux keeps denying that some feats are valid and says that others are just because he likes that character better@@yarc9
I'll be honest, Thawne's motivation is so comically loony that it actually comes back around to being legitimately terrifying when you see just how far he'll go for a goal that most of us normal people can't even take seriously. It sounds goofy as hell... until you realize that there's no one left alive to laugh at it. It's kind of like how Bill Cipher looking like just a little triangle in a top hat ends up making it all the more horrifying when you realize what a sick bastard he actually is.
having had a stalker, Thawns motivation isn't even that outlandish. my stalker, who i had a protective order against, showed up at my house, i held him at gunpoint until the cops could get him, he posted bail and came back to my house the next fucking day and just rang the doorbell like we'd be happy to see him.
It's honestly realistic. Some people are just cracked.
@@lastmanstanding7155I wouldn't say so, yes he's a weird stalker; But also his paradox is based on Barry hating him. He wants to interact with Barry, and he could only do that if Barry hates him.
When Barry fully forgave him, Barry was then able to ground him; And then reset his timeline.
Yeah I mean it was obvious Nux was just biased af against DC, but I don't get how can anyone pretend like Thawne's motivation is nonsensical. It's absurd of course, but there are absurd people existing. Reverse Flash is basically if Stan from Eminem's song became a supervillain, that's kinda the point.
People get so hyper fixated on someone, they treat them as they're an aspect of their lives, so if that someone just rejects them, they feel as if a whole part of their self being got obliterated. It's a pretty terrifying thing to think about honestly
The Negative Speed Force actually makes sense because it's not so much that Thawne is using a completely different power set, but rather he's drawing the Speed Force away from the things around him. So if you put Thawne in a universe or timeline where no new Speed Force energy is being generated, his powers would slowly but surely run out because Thawne can't create Speed Force energy himself.
But it works like the speed force that connects throughout time and space so theoretically he would still have speed force
@@Keith_Norman Yes, but there are theoretical limits to the Speed Force. Case in point? Every true speedster in DC draws power from the Speed Force, so the more speedsters there are, the less Speed Force there is to go around. Too many people like Thawne, who draw power from the Speed Force and don't generate more of it, and eventually the Speed Force will just run out, and the relative amount of available Speed Force is what determines how fast each speedster can move.
@@Brutalyte616 I mean I guess that makes sense however thawn doesn't use the speed force and none of the other speed force users it have never showed signs of being slow and if they have it's mostly due to Rider inconsistency or plot but you are theoretically correct because there should be a lot more speedsters in the multiverse
@@Keith_Norman True. Whilethe extreme end of it has never been shown, Thawne himself has commented before that Barry can't move as fast as he wants when Thawne is around draining the Speed Force away, and since Barry is the thing that produces the Speed Force, you can imagine how other speedsters would be affected.
No, I'm pretty sure Thawne generates negative speed force just by existing.
Edit: I just double checked and yeah, Negative Speed force is generated by Thawne. It's eats away at the Speed Force, but that has no effect on how much negative speed force is available for Thawne to use.
Fun fact: This was the episode that ended Dragon Ball's 5 in a row-winning streak to then start the relatively short losing streak until Frieza Vs Megatron. I only remember that specific information cause back when this episode came out, the whole Reverse Flash "Oh, was that important?" became a big meme for a bit and that was the funniest joke to come from that meme
That screenshot also made a ton of new profile pictures
Actually 4 in a row winning streak.
Counting back from this battle
Broly: Hulk vs. Broly
Roshi: Master Roshi vs. Jiraiya
18: Android 18 vs. Captain Marvel
Satan: Hercule Satan vs. Dan Hibiki
The win streak starts after Goku vs. Superman 2
Reverse flash is actually pretty consistently op on comic defiantly the recent comic
Perks of being the villain instead of the hero. The writers don't need to downplay your power to make the plot work 90% of the time.
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets and flashes defense he can't go full out on his villians because they would be overly dead and usually all the times flash gets fucked up is when he's just learning his powers. Yes he is inconsistent but not the degree that just gets shot by bullets but also can destroy the multiverse nux is being very hyperbolic with that statement lol. But yes perks is reverse flash is flashes most powerful villian so he's consistently op and when he's not theirs usually a reason behind it
Honestly, Flash in comics isn't nearly as inconsistent as everyone makes him out to be. Like I constantly see feats of Deathstroke tripping Barry with a pole (when the context was literally that Barry's powers were nullified and therefore shouldn't be used as a feat for Slade or an anti-feat for Barry), when Catwoman beaten three Flashes at the same time (Poison Ivy was controlling the Flahses and she couldn't control their speed, so it was just three fellas against one athletic ninja, guess who wins), when Batman punched Reverse Flash (the only reason this happened was because as Eobard was monologuing and phasing, Bruce, the world's smartest detective, deduced that unless his feats were solid, he'd just fall through the floor while phasing, so he stabbed him through the foot to land two punches. Know what happened after that? Reverse Flash curbstomped him.) etc.
@@cngotham4111 That's also just the DC universe. Everyone holds back, even Batman and he's a normal guy. But even **he** if going all out would causally kill and injure people that he doesn't want to. So they are just from a very dangerous neighborhood where most people know their strength because the inverse would be bad.
@@tananatana4011 Yep, plus as people love to point out...sometimes a writer is just a fan of a character and gets too invested in who they like. Its why Slade suddenly becomes an untouchable god during Identity Crisis. No one who knows comics is trying to argue that isn't far and above anything Slade was doing consistently at that time.
Tbh I think it would be pretty easy to tell if his ring was giving him his time powers, I mean its a ring with a literal infinity symbol on it, especially for a dude considered a genius.
and a dude who is used to all the lanterns having magic rings
Fr, r.f basically has the power to save/load until he finds the weak spot/opening. Dude is basically a soulsborne character
It also glows when used so yeah, pretty obvious
Except, he would. Think of it like this, who would win a fight, a person who is immortal? Or a person who is immortal as long as he wears the right underwear. They will keep fighting and try every possible thing possible to eachother. Similar, these two will keep coming back ajd keep trying every possible thing they can to each other. O e of those will eventually end with the ring off.
and flash knows about the lanterns, so he already gets the concept of super rings.
and his paradox powers let him detect time manipulation so he could sense the ring.
@@DarthZ01 even if he couldn't detect the ring, at a certain point you just have to start trying random things, "what if i kill him and cut off his head, no... what if i kill him and shove his right arm up an elephants ass, no." two immortal time travelers fighting for all of time forever are going to eventually find out the others weakness if they have one.
@@DarthZ01fr, some people have said it multiple times in the comments, but reverse flash has a super super computer level mental speed, so 1 second is hours, days, hell maybe even months. He would basically come up with thousands to hundred thousands of plans to anything from either running away to try and kill g.b.
And he is well versed in the fact that there's like a dozen magic ring factions in his universe, so he would DEFINITELY be like -
"Ok, TO HELL WITH THIS, IM JUST GOING TO TAKE A THING FROM HIM 1 BY 1 UNTIL I FIND HIS PARADOX POWERS AND KILL HIM ONCE AN FOR ALL". Or something like that, process of elimination basically
I honestly think you stated it the best 👌
Nux: reverse flash will get shot by a regular person but then will be able to recreate the multiverse.
Me: goku is supposed to be powerful but a rock hurts him. Boba fett is supposed to be dangerous yet got defeated by essentially an comedy skit. Every fictional character at one point has a moment in the story that makes no sense, but remember: the story comes first. You have to compare them directly, and eobard just had better speed, and he did not need a ring to survive
Not to mention Goku as a child was literally bullet proof, but in super some dude shows up to with a gun and shoots Goku and it damages his skin.
This needs more likes
@@Madness_78and when that laser killed Goku in Resurrection F
@@hsalfesrever3554 Now that I think about it, Toriyama is surprisingly inconsistent when comes to power scaling and setting limits on characters.
@@hsalfesrever3554 goku di dnot die in rnf what you smoking and whis said no metter who you are fi you drop grard any oen cna hrut you
I always get a kick out of how Nux has a massive problem with how DC characters are generally stronger than he is willing to admit and is relegated to dismissing their feats by calling them “random” and “inconsistent”.
Nux is an Otaku. If it is not anime, it does not matter. Dude, he literally said toon force is bs, but then saitama, who is a gag character, feats matter
@@dakaraipatterson2986 saitama isn't a gag character anymore
@@dakaraipatterson2986 saitama is not really a gag karackter nor is wade wilson.
@@jachincambronero6519 he never was
@@jachincambronero6519 He is a gag character, its his entire thing to be stronger than his opponent to such a degree that he can defeat them in one punch. He has more similarities with characters like the Roadrunner since like Saitama, reality will morph in order for Roadrunner to come out on top (example for Saitama being that Tatsumaki being unable to lift him despite him just standing still, is his weight just that high? Then why doesn't he fall through the floor?)
You can't readily dismiss feats without context Nux. Some high end comic feats are meant to be taken metaphorical, like Superman lifting the universe Atlas was holding up, but thats clear if you read it. Moments like Barry and Reverse Flash tearing apart the multiverse isn't poetic or a metaphor, sometimes cool crazy feat is meant to be taken as cool crazy feat, why not just accept that?
Three words. Bias and favoritism.
I think the problem that you have is that comics arent necessarily sequential. I agree that powerscaling is really hard to do with characters who have been around for decades, but you cant take all of the low end trash that they get beaten by as the hero at their prime. Like, The Flash gets beaten by some teenagers. Yeah. When he was just getting used to his own powers. Superman gets rocjed by Solomon Grundy. Beacuse he's constantly holding back. That doesn't mean that they're not still capable of their top tier feats. They're just not going all out or there are some other factors that prevent them from using their full powerset. Like, if The Flash ran back in time every time something bad happened, then that pretty much ends every story before it begins. There is no story if he does that.
Yeah, I hate that he keeps bitching about it and tries to act like we're the bad guys for tearing him a new one in the comments
I think it's how inconsistent they apply them. Take Batman there are literally two versions of him existing at the same time. There's the Batman we mostly get that is a normal guy at his peak who even though he's the worlds greatest detective he's still human. Then there is the Meta human Batman who can sense things Superman can't, deduce where incomparable entities are in a room, deduce when and where a random time traveler will appear, deduce the exact magic words a magic user needs to escape a magical dimensions, hack emotion into a terminator, hack a planet with a living god like computer, survive space and reentry into earth in a basic Batsuit, hide from Superman when Superman is making an effort to look for him, the feats keep going. Death Battle tends to take all that when it comes to Batman and go no it's not in character to he's just a human. Then a speech bubble that hasn't really shown or proven anything and there like yes that's 100% canon. I can definitely see Nux's frustration and yes I'm still salty about Batman vs Ironman not because Batman lost but how. Batman smash puny Ironman really! Tony gets prep time but Batman goes Smash! Even if the winner was obvious they couldn't at least pretend it was Batman who was fighting Tony?
Yeah a lot of people who really love anime and they go up against someone from comics do this a lot or someone scaling comic characters and they say that lobo is just as strong as Superman even though that's not true because Superman is holding back the same with Spider-Man too and then you kind of have the reverse end where everyone just kind of goes for feats which definitely aren't consistent
All I see here is "Is it bullsh*t most of the time? Yes. Was it written by the official writers? Yes? Then cry about it xD" Also the point about DC characters always being able to perform their best feats is ABSOLUTE bs take. In reality, comic writers simply lost ability to write consistently due to amount of comics written over the years, and number of different writers. Leaving it up to people's opinion as to how strong the actual character is...
Solomon Grundy is intentionally inconsistent. Every time he resurrects, he is vastly different.
One's drunk with power and the other's high on speed. This won't end well.
Why are you mad and call it over exaggeration when they use multiverse feats for DC characters but it’s not when they do it for anime characters? Doesn’t seem fair Nux.
Otaku day is a very dangerous day
One thing I think they should have mentioned but just didnt was the fact that when it comes to items that allow time travel such as the time ring, Reverse flash has a kind of sense for them and can lock onto them to let him know what is causing the ability to time travel so more than likely he will know that the ring is important.
And not to mention. even without that in play, Reverse flash is such a petty man that he would eventually yoink it just because he would assume it had sentimental value.
@MiudmonDice, it was me Goku Black! I made it so you were beat by Goku so that you would steal his body!
Y'also have to take into account the fact that in Thawne's universe, there's an entire spectrum of ring-based mcguffin shenanigans and as a result he'd probably snag the ring, just in case.
Well they did mention that they said that he was an expert on time whimy bullshit they should have went on a more in-depth analysis so
It also helps that the Time Ring literally glows green when it's being used. Thawne doesn't even need that, he's more than capable of perceiving that glaring sign.
Nux is so hypocritical that it's hilarious. Dragon Ball has its fair share nonsensical bullshit feats.
Even if the ring couldn't be removed by normal means, Reverse Flash could vibrate it off by phasing it through Black's finger. Also these universe and multiverse feats aren't even statements, they were actually happening in the story. Thawne actually reversed the destruction of the universe and Barry and Wally nearly tore apart the multiverse. Real feats, not just statements.
I don't understand why he can't understand that with how much he boasts about being analytical with everything
i’m not saying black would win but i don’t think rf could take the ring off that way. the ring prevents change to the wearers physical form, that’s why rf can’t kill him, and rf vibrating his finger like that would constitute as change.
@@kelbigehe doesnt touch black, he vibrates through his hand and just grabs the ring, as if blacks hand wasnt even there and he was just grabbing the ring out of the air.
also r flash could have just ran to the point black got the ring and steal it before he ever put it on, but theres no way for black to go back to when rf got his paradox powers because that moment was erased from time.
actually i was just doing some further research and i don’t think anybody knows what that ring does exactly. i’m definitely not sure anymore so o well.
btw i don’t know a whole lot about rf but u can’t go through something like that without touching it. he may be vibrating his molecules but wat he’s going through is not so basically he’s dematerializing and put himself back together on the other side. however i don’t believe that’s his power it’s the speed force and time travel.
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So I guess Goku getting oneshot by a dinky laser shot from a nobody is his max durability then.
Nux saying cringe is ironic given his whiny demeanor whenever DC is brought up.
Ik bc he's just mad that Black lost 😂
Fine with calling others cringe but calls it childish when others call him cringe for his attitude
Reverse-flashes motivation isn’t really stupid, he is just a toxic fanboy that wants Barry to be obsessed with him. And since he is unhinged, he does so by making Barry hate him with all his soul.
In weeb terms, he's a yandere and a tsundere combined.
yeah😅 that’s not really stupid.
right guys…………………………………………………………………
it was me barry, i went back in time to create yandere simulator. then i installed it on every computer you ever used so people would think you played it all the time.
32:00 its also cringe when nux said taking those statements every time to heart hurts or whatever when in the comics you could actually see holes made in the multiverse when barry and wally race "destroyed the multiverse" these arent just statements, Nux, youre just that biased
This deserves more likes
I see people complain about comic feats a lot because they say it’s one line dropped in a random comic that makes them op. But that’s not true. In the comics there’s always a story that builds up to epic moments. The Wally west moment is from when he learned that by linking speed with everyone on earth they could make him faster. So when every human on earth ran together it made flash faster than teleportation. The story is really well done. But anime fans complain about all of that even though anime characters be out here pulling random crap from no where too.
Both these characters understandably seem overpowered to an extreme fault, but it's important to remember that in their respective worlds, the story comes first- wiz death battle
This arguably one of the best Death Battles
Yah amazing battle but Goku black analysis is the worst
@@enriquechiles Would there be a difference? Reverse Flash still wins
@@deshawnwilliams6939i think he mesns it just wasnt paced very well.
@@enriquechilesi dont think theres anyone who can scale db cosmology correctly
@@senpai5175what about Divine?
With the scaling stuff, that's just how comics are, otherwise there'd be no drama or story. And besides, mainline Flash usually does beat his foes really fast, and if he doesn't, it's because they're either A)as fast as him, B)are intelligent enough to plan around his impossible speed, or C)have a weapon, power, or tool that allows them to deal with him, like Captain Cold's ray gun that drops stuff near absolute zero.
i think u nailed the main conflict between anime and comic fans
not to mention nux's "you have to take their best and their weakest" is a retarded as fuck argument. you go from "once this character farted and it caused an explosion that destroyed the moon, that is a force of 1 bakillion pinto beans worth of toot. " and you change it to "this character fated so hard it destroyed the moon at a force of 1 bakillion beans worth of gas, oh and also he once stubbed his toe and it made him cry." it adds nothing to the conversation.
@@kelbige It's not the main conflict between anime and comic fans. It's the main conflict between the Flash fans who fully embrace this and everyone else who thinks it's stupid that the Flash only loses because the writer wants something to happen. The Flash is just way too OP and because the Flash is OP so is the Reverse Flash.
@@1ProAssassin yea I feel like people really underestimate the power of planning. I mean Barry and Co. really do win a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like I remember just recently in nightwings comic wally was just casually dubbing all over the city. He would even check in on dick periodically while also stopping crime in his own city. (I think it said every hour) so yea. When the dudes get beat they are usually going up against something that equals them in power somehow or they are facing something in a situation that negates their ability in some form. (Think mind control or time force shenanigans) or they are facing a foe who is smart enough to have planned for Flash in some way given the situation. There are ways to beat flash. But generally most of the Flash's are smart, experienced, and know how to cover their weaknesses and that's before their speed abilities make them OP.
Nux probably doesn’t know this but when the lyrics “IT WAS MEEE” and Quicksilver dies it’s a reference to Quicksilver vs Flash Death Battle and Reverse Flash is the reason why Quicksilver dies in that fight
Damn I didn't even realize that lol that's funny asf
@@tananatana4011 yeah back then when that fight concluded everybody was confused on why there’s a random statue on that specific tree but now we know why
10:18 the time ring doesn’t make black immune to paradox’s, it makes him a walking time paradox
Source?
@@brodyratliff7441He’s still alive in the future even though his past is altered and he’s killed in the past, that’s due to time ring, just read the Dragon Ball wiki
Anyways, RF claps GB
@@particlephysics_leeThe wiki isn't always totally accurate tho. You could also just chalk that up to Dragon Ball working on multiverse theory logic (in the multiple timelines sense, not the literal Dragon Ball multiverse sense). In DBZ, when they killed infant Cell in the present, Fully-grown Cell from Trunk's future timeline wasn't affected either.
@@Gabriel-oq8gs Do I need to give you 2 segments of the DBS anime to show that Goku Black said it himself?
Japanese original: No matter what happens in the past world, it has no effect on my present self
US Dub: “Not even what a God of Destruction did in the past can stop me now” (referring to Beerus Hakai-ed his past self)
@@Gabriel-oq8gs ua-cam.com/video/YKiFHS8-e6A/v-deo.htmlsi=IopO7F97BGWLRpnu
This was definitely one of the best Death Battles even if they gave Goku Black a ability he doesn't have
which ability was that?
wdym?
Was it the going through the speedforce?
Do you mean the Time Ring being used to go backwards in time despite it not working like that in canon?
It was the whole "he can't be killed as long as he has the Time Ring on" which isn't true, when Future Trunks went to the past he had split the timeline so in 1 version of that timeline Zamasu wasn't erased from existence and went on to become Goku Black while in the timeline we follow Zamasu is killed by Beerus, they are different timelines and have nothing to do with the Time Ring
Close? It wasn't even fair. You never put a non-speedster against a speedster.
Nux: He became the universe
Me: That was his fusion not him on his own.
And that fusion only happened because that other Zamasu was Immortal.
3:18 True, but Goku isn’t exactly a stranger to that type of bullshit.
For example, he got scratched by a bullet, and hurt by a rock.
It’s about as stupid as when powerful superheroes struggle with weak criminals.
18:20 Goku Black’s body is mortal.
31:04 It’s not a statement. He actually did it.
32:08 Probably because Dragon Ball’s statements are apparently completely fine for you, but nothing else is.
The problem with taking people at their lowest is when its for a person you like for example when goku got bodied by laser from a nobody. You gotta be equal if you want that.
Exactly biased as hell
17:40 problem is, Goku has fallen to shit that shouldn’t have worked like a heart virus or a laser. Doesn’t matter if his guard was down, its the exact same shit. Hate to say it
Considering Hal Jordan (the best friend of Eobard's arch nemesis) is one of the many people in DC that derives power from a ring, you'd have a really hard time justifying Black's Time Ring _not_ being the very first thing Thawne thinks to get rid of.
Eobard’s also aware of the entire Green Lantern Corps; back in the 80s he didn’t kill one that had come to Earth because he know the entire Corps would be after him.
Even if you stick to only post-Crisis on Infinite Earths, his past self’s corpse also got reanimated by a black ring during Blackest Night and he was promptly resurrected by the white light shortly afterwards. Dude knows how strong rings can be.
Plus the time ring glows and Thawne could sense time anomalies... or Thawne would just get rid of it out of sheer pettiness.
People are upset at you trying to discount the Multiversal threatening and tearing apart feats because you're being hilariously hypocritical, accepting the shockwave feat for Dragon Ball characters when you can make the exact same dumb argument against that feat.
nux ima be honest im tired of the bitching, if reverse flash having super universal feats is such an issue, than its the same for goku black. you cant have an issue with one character having these feats and be perfectly fine with another one.
like youre literally disappointed that a FLASH character was faster? you really expected ANY character in fiction to outspeed a flash? the guys who outran the concept of reality itself, casually jog through time and multiverse barriers, can beat instant teleportation and themselves in races.
youre gonna sigh because one of them was deemed faster?
The flash loses to random idiots because he doesn't want to hurt low level criminals, he's more of a personal hero and will lose if it helps him convince the criminals they don't need to break the law
Yeah Nux, its a case of misremembering some key details about Zamasu and Goku Black. The Zamasu who inhabits Goku's body was the one from the main timeline of DB and wished only for the body possession and nothing else, as the time ring he stole effectively made him Immortal already. The alternate Zamasu from Trunk's Timeline is the one who wished for immortality using the Super Dragon Balls, and in regards to the Universal merge feat which was anime only; I don't believe that was a conscious decision, but rather a result of the corruption of Alt. Zamasu's Immortality wish.
Alt Zamasu was an immortal being who could never die and become a spirit, but then he fused with Goku Black, a body that wasn't blessed with immortality to become a fusion which in itself is paradoxical because fused beings were never supposed to exist in the first place. When Trunk's finally sliced Fused Zamasu in half and "Killed" Zamasu, the wish had to work overtime because something that should've been impossible has been done. Zamasu is effectively dead, but where is his soul supposed to go? it cant leave the living realm because he's "immortal" and he can't go to Other World because he's "Immortal" and isnt supposed to Die. He has to go somewhere but the Wish can't return him back to his body/bodies because they have been disintegrated. So the wish just... put him everywhere. He's just omnipresent now with nothing but the total annihilation of the timeline he exists able to erase him once and for all. Not like the Manga version is any better logic wise.
Yeah, and mainly it's present Zamasu versus R.Flash. In my opinion it would've been different if it was either Future Zamasu or Future Zamasu and Goku black/P.Zamasu but since it's a 1v1 that's already out of the picture. Leaving Future Zamasu versus R.Flash meaning an Immortal genocidal god versus a literal walking paradox. Instead of two walking paradoxes fighting till the end of time one wearing a time ring making him a walking paradox while the other is a self made paradox.
@@veggieandfriends7220 right, and the other thing about it as pointed in the black boxes in the analysis, R. Flash is capable of annihilating Timelines too so even if it was Alt. Zamasu vs R. Flash, Eobard would still be able to defeat Zamasu.
@@g2akashi yep..
He forgets that chinese cartoon characters spill the beans about their powers in the middle of a battle, also rv can detect time anomalíes and he faces lanterns on a daily basis.
r u saying Chinese as an an insult or do u really not know that dragon ball is Japanese
@@kelbige it's a Japanese story based off a Chinese story.
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets Throw a stone at a shelf of early manga, chances are it hits something inspired by that same Chinese story. (Funnily enough Japan has a history of taking things from China and labeling it theirs after minor changes.)
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbasketsIt’s Japanese media stop nitpicking. I can’t stand you Comic neckbeards
The Negative Speed Force is just the oppositely charged speed force, like protons and electrons, the actual opposite of Both is the Slow Force which makes everything Slow
That's a thing?
@@Luigicat11YEP, the villain The Turtle has it >.>
CORRECTION it is called the STILL Force
The Still Force is a cosmic force based around entropy and inertia. Connection to the Still Force allows whoever taps into it to negate motion, bearing the potential to induce and accelerate the force of entropy. At full power, the Still Force can stop the universe from expanding.
@@durk5331 it was me Barry, I use my power of the still force to stop the progression of your favorite anime, depressing you, making you just a millisecond slower to stop me from killing your wife.
I mean, Reverse flash is a DC Villain. He is no stranger to to people using magic rings to do insane things.
If it weren't for all the different Lantern groups, he probably wouldn't have thought the ring was important.
Nux Prepare for probably the bloodiest death battle you have ever seen.
Fun fact! Reverse Flash is a paradox so he can't be permanently killed or erased
yes he can reverse flash is not god there is noting god cant do and the is no lim tot the wish the super balsl cant give you meanign he can be erased
dude he died in the movie did you nto wathc it he gun shot to the ehad sia dhe was dieing soon after he did die so try again
@@ssjgotenks2009he will always comeback no mattet what if they do make a killing blow he will just go back to a point of time
@@ssjgotenks2009Nice, let's also use Zamasu witg Goku's body or immortality then.
Since you're going for movie version of RF, let's also downplay Zamasu lol.
Dr. Manhattan willed him away, and he came back; Dr. Manhattan would make Zeno look like a chump.
@@ssjgotenks2009He will always come back. Even Dr Manhatten couldn't get rid of him.
Not Nux questioning why the Reverse flash was able to figure out that he needed to take the ring...
When the Reverse Flash literally fought green lanterns..... who he took rings off of......
The ring would of been his top first things he would think of to take off of someone who won't die.
The Goke Black arc was literaly "Hey u wanna see Future Trunks again? Alright here is Future Trunks" - i aint complaining but it is what it is
I hated that arc, it made me go back and rewatch Z and go "wait what year did trunks travel back from?"... Current Kid trunks is as old as Future trunks was when he went back in time.
"...then The Flash will casually destroy the multiverse and rebuilt it or some shit like that."
Should we tell him? Some body should tell him. I wanna tell him.
Whenever you start dealing with either The Flash or Superman, everything goes out the window. What are numbers? When is time? How does reality even?
All the top level justice league members do this shit on a daily basis. Wonder woman speed is absolutely ridiculous. Hell aquaman in water is almost as fast as flash is running on the ground
There's also Hal Jordan; Dude outwilled Will itself lol.
@@boxtupos7718 Absolutly. Supes and Flash are just the easiest to point to for me.
"Empty threats to a living paradox" goes so hard.
No one tell Nux that if you used anti feats for both characters, DC characters would still win 8/10 times. Like let's not pretend it's just DC who have anti feats and that Dragon Ball is totally secure from this, hell how many times I've seen that one picture of Goku getting shot through the chest by a blast or flung by an index finger as "definitive proof that Superman destroys him"... which he DOES, but not because of anti-feats, it's really silly to powerscale like that.
Also, if you're from a DC multiverse, destroying someone's ring as you suspect it might be a source of power isn't that outrageous at all... you know, since there is an entire multigalactic corp FILLED WITH THOSE MFS?
I forget how biased Nux is until he talks about comic book characters compared to Goku... There are many feats to Goku that are downright ridiculous, but you never speak on those. Only when Goku loses is when the issue occurs. Instead of crying about your favorite character losing and making excuses, try to actually think about how they lost and see if your opinion on it is even reasonable, like this comment.
Reverse Flash is literally the worse to have as an enemy... XD
The really terrifying thing about Reverse Flash is that he is ABSOLUTELY petty enough to do all the things you see him claim credit for in the "It was me Barry" memes.
Why can’t they take those statements at face value? The Dragon Ball franchise literally makes the same bonkers statements and we take them at face value. That’s just double standards.
Except nothing backs it up, they’re just statements that are routinely debunked by its own series. DC’s can be backed up because you literally see it happen as it’s being described. Dragon Ball doesn’t get those feats.
@@skeety7883 Yeah, DC’s feats were the ones I was talking about. Nux just kinda scoffs anytime they mention the dc universal or multiversal stuff.
Nux scoffs at anything that goes against anime
Is Nux, he's a whiny cry baby, his opinion doesn't really matter
Nux when a character he likes is OP: "Wow, so cool!"
Nux when a character he doesn't like Is OP: "What a poorly written and stupid character."
The reason Zamasu didn't merge with reality is because that was his merged version that pulled that feat off. That guy was on par with even Vegeto, which explains why he was just casually causing existence to go runny around the edges.
To be honest I'm not exactly sure Goku Black even COULD counter Thawne's living paradox status so really the rest of his feats don't actually matter because at the end of the day one of these people has an ITEM that makes them immune to time shenanigans and the other one just IS naturally immune.
Remember when goku negated time stop by "being stronger than time itself"? Yeah totally not bullsit right Nux?
Goku had more raw power than Hit and that's how he was able to break through the time stop. Same thing happened when Vegito got turned into candy. Still dumb anime logic, but it isn't "I'm stronger than time itself!" levels of dumb. Even Zeno doesn't have that kind of power.
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets sounds like Bleach logic that way.
Aizen negating "Death in 2 stings" by simply having more raw power... then again it might have been Kyoka Suigetsu making her think Aizen tanked her ability when she actually stung air (would be understandable that he can't actually bullshit her ability and used his to make it seem like he did)
@@Akaritomi haven't seen Bleach, so I'm just gonna take your word for it.
Reverse Flash is the guy on the playground who always makes up new rules to make him win the imaginary fight. He had a full conversation and carried out an Evil Plan, _without a frontal cortex_
This Death Battle was great
If the ring is connected to the particles he tracks, Reverse Flash can detect them so he absolutely could figure out the ring had some weird connect to tachyons/time.
Goku Black's Death is one of DB's Best Deaths They've ever made.
Hardly. No way a high level dragon Ball characters going to be road hauled to death
@@RyuKaguya bro, he literally dragged his face across the entire planet multiple times at light speed. I don't care if you're a saiyan or a god, your face would be gone
@@RyuKaguyaExactly thank you, those thing do nothing against Dragon Ball characters. Reason why this video had been debunked many times. But hey like always they are biased for DC.
@@cortfun7775And ?? This is nothing to Black. And Light speed is nothing to Dragon Ball characters, they get worse and don't get hurt. That's why this battle have been debunked so many times all over the Internet. This shouldn't do anything to Goku Black. If anything that would be him to do it to Reverse Flash.
@@laxop3420 way to ignore the whole point of my comment. If Goku can get hurt by a rock and bleed from a bullet then Black's face can look like a fucking skeleton after getting his face dragged across the planet. Also he didn't actually die from that, he was still in Rose after all of that which means he was still alive and DB confirmed that this was intentional. And finally the fight is purely for entertainment, you can criticize things in the fight of course but nitpicking the death to that extent is well... nitpicking and you sound like a biased fanboy salty that a DB character lost. And even then I already showed why that would do damaged to him and that he didn't die from it
Also remember, if characters like the flash, superman, wonder woman, green lantern etc had consistent powers, THE STORY WOULD BE BORING AF. Barry and wally and the entire speed force family would literally never be hit by anything. The problem with anime fans is they are so biased to the culture that common sense is an impossible concept
Also its different points in careers and different universes. Additionally Barry holds back because he's friendly with most of his villians kinda like spiderman
@@cngotham4111 agreed. Superman has mental blocks which prevent him from achieving his potential. If he just unleashed every mental block in one comic, the other comics would be pointless
The issue with dc comics and comics in general is EVERYTHING IS CANON, half the official iterations of dragon ball characters are immediately discounted because they aren’t canon to the current story line. Not to mention half of the feats from the dc comics are one offs that never are shown again, hell of someone was petty enough they could just constantly demand the Superman in their death battle has to be the new gay one.
@@finnkedinn1573 1. If people are upset that everything is canon, get mad at the people making the comic. Not death battle. 2. See 1 but get mad at toriyama and the dragonball writers. 3. No death battle has done that. Can you show me one?
@@finnkedinn1573 Well technically not everything just everything that matters, for example the Elseworld stories which are explicitely non canon, alot of different versions of the characters are different universe versions from the main versions so they dont count, and Reboots make it so you cant attribute feats from say Golden Age to Post Crisis characters (with some exceptions because canonically some characters are uneffected by reboots) But NOW they fused them with their previous mainline iterations, meaning while Elseworld and Alt universe feats still arent counted towards them usually, reboot feats are.
I love watching this kid get upset, it honestly fills me with joy😌. It just copium al around lol
It’s the best part of DB reactions
Rings which grant powers are common in the DC universe,it makes sense to me that he figured it out.
I dont mind that the outcome was just "steal the ring" because I had no stakes in this fight.
But if you're going to use this excuse here why not do it with Green Lantern? The character who has been shown to have the ring stolen? It just feels like DC bias.
Because Batman did it lol; Doesn't help that Hal was kinda geeking over Batman. Batman kinda does impossible things.
The ring literally has a barrier that stops it from being taken; And GLs can easily just recall their rings if they were removed. Heck this barriers, protected GLs from retcons lol.
If you mean the GL vs Ben 10 DB while there are alot of things wrong with that fight, Hal Jordan has so much willpower he can use the Emotional spectrum powers without a ring. Although you wouldnt know that since they were very shallow with their explanations.
@lvlHive Yeah, honestly I figured Ben would lose that fight given DC powerscaling. But after Hal won they said "Diamondhead was durable but could he survive a planet exploding?" Among other pointless claims. Like- why bring that up? It's not his most durable alien and you didn't use Diamondhead. Really the explanations are why I don't like that fight because it felt like they were downplaying both fighters.
Edit: Also they didn't let Ben cook before pulling the Alien X card. Would have loved to see diversity in the picks.
@@PairOfHands3301 I also wish they used one of his teen versions. Honestly the entire video was a little scuffed and while i agree with the result for the most part i think they should redo the video like with Goku vs Superman, just update with better analysis and animation.
Im genuinely curious
Does Nux keep this "oh he was outside the universe bullshit" energy during the Granolah arc in Super? Because someone in DragonBall does something *very similar*
He's more likely to turn a blind eye to it than anything else. He seems to like to pretend that Dragon Ball doesn't have a lot of the same bullshit going on these days.
Besides the timey wimey stuff with the ring, only extra effect is sizing to wearers finger size. It can easily be taken on and off. It's just a very nicely fitting ring for whoever wears it 😅😅 Also Nux you have to remember when we saw alot of really big feats from zamasu, he was fused with him self who had a godly body and gave him access to abilities not afforded by Gokus Sayian body.
Also it was never shown or even said that the ring can’t be stolen, if that was the case Zamasu would have never gotten his hands on the ring itself, heck he would have never been able to kill his master to begin with.
My only problem is confusing statements with Feats, its one thing to say a character can do something but when they actually do it and you still call it a statement I have a problem
This is the same person who said a toon like popeye is all statements even though it's literally on the screen lol
also the fact hes super excited when goku black has a bs insane feat like turning into a universe, but the second r flash has a bs insane feat its "ugh comics do such stupid bs i hate their feats"
Ikr, his argument for Saitama winning was literally "his whole gimmick is that he can't lose" what kind of argument is that? Popeye's whole gimmick is ALSO that he can't lose, so what do we do now? We have to judge them based on their feats, and Reverse Flash is actually a very consistently OP supervillain, like I don't know where did Nux get this idea that he gets beaten by regular people, that almost never happens, and even if it did, what are we gonna pretend like Dragon Ball ALSO doesn0t have a shit ton of anti feats?
He's very obviously biased, but hey, at least he admits it and isn't like Ink Tank or whoever who just have no idea on how to judge feats, although he DOES have a pretty extensive lore knowledge, I'll give him that, but treating X as on the same caliber as like Manhattan or whatever, it's just like... stop
@tananatana4011 thank you. Everyone took ink tank for gospel, and I was confused. He made green lantern seem like he couldn't beat a dick Tracy villain. Smh people make me cringe with their biased attitudes
@@dakaraipatterson2986 I will admit that DB's actual reasoning as for why Hal won in that episode was absolutely TERRIBLE, some of the most important things they left out in the black squares, but the VERDICT itself is accurate.
Hal has straight up WILLED himself back into existence after getting deleted by being FAR more powerful beings than celestialsapiens have ever even been IMPLIED as being, not to mention how MASSIVELY faster Hal is, like we're talking quintillion times faster than light, and keep in mind Hal isn't even top 3 fastest JL members.
So when people think they're fucking geniuses with "oh the omnitrix reacted to the Big Bang but it couldn't react to Hal's scissors?" ... YES! That's correct.
Alien X has got to be like top 5 most overrated characters I've ever seen in terms of power level. I swear to god, 99% of people just say "he's a god" as if that's some sort of proof. Being a "god" doesn't mean anything in fiction. In Boys universe, Homelander is technically "a god" just in comparison to everyone else, he still gets his ass whooped by every Superman iteration out there effortlessly.
Rant over, I know it's a very old episode, but goddamn, it still irritates me to this day that people thought Ben was snubbed of a win, and then some mfs will go as far as to say that Ben wins even WITHOUT X, like goddamn, can you be any more apparent?
When neither can die and both can use time infinitely to do whatever they want, it's all a matter of 'who can put the other down first'. Only Goku Black has any weakness that can be exploited between them both, so they could battle for eons but it would still come down to Eobard taking that ring off him at some point.
27:06
“You think you are the only one with bullshit powers on your side. You absolute buffoon!” Funniest moment of the video😂😂😂
Idk if Nux is still reacting to Death Battle videos, but if he is, I would LOVE to see him react to Vegita vs Thor, one of the best fights in the series history, plus feeds into his love of DragonBall.
His last reaction was to Galactus vs Unicron, which was the last episode before Rooster Teeth was shut down. So there currently aren't any *new* episodes to react to.
But he could go back and watch older ones (any he hasn't actually seen anyway), in which case, yes, I'd love a reaction to Thor vs Vegeta myself.
I do love the whole thing with nux: THE SHOCKWAVES CAN DESTROY DESTROY THE UNIVERSE! ,OH DC,THATS JUST BULLSHIT xD
"Wait, dont listen to him. He's Black"
- Nux Taku, 2024
DBZ has some of the worst "saying but not doing" feats as well. Like, every DBZ villain ever talks about how they can blow up the Earth or more with one finger, and there end goal is to destroy the everything, but then when they are forced to go all out against characters even stronger than they are, they just blow up some rocks, or maybe a mountain at most.
By your logic of how you want them to do things, as to not take characters words literally, Cell SAYS he can blow up the earth with one finger, and attempts to blow up the earth, but never does. At most he leaves a big crater in the ground when fighting his full strength against someone stronger than he is, and blows up a planet the size of a large boulder. We just have to assume how strong he is because he gave the Z fighters a hard time, and then we have to compare that to who the Z fighters had fought before then. Even on DBS, they SAY Goku and Beerus' punch was strong enough to shake and nearly destroy the universe, yet nothing happens other than them making some big waves in the ocean. Nothing makes sense on either side, manga or comic haha
Yeah the Time Ring only prevents you from being erased from time, it doesn’t protect you from being straight up killed.
Killed means removed from 1 instance in time tho, so he can still come back with the ring
@@particlephysics_lee that’s not how the ring works, it’s time travel capabilities are very limited and no it doesn’t protect you from being killed even if you try to use that weak justification.
@@Andrew-Bastin
If he’s killed, that means he is removed from 1 instance in time
Like if I killed you now, 10 seconds later you would have been dead for 10 seconds (which means your death is in the past). The ring protects you from erasures in time that means you can still come back
“Goku Black is the Zamasu of the same timeline in which he was killed by Beerus in the present, but because he was wearing the Time Ring in the anime, he was unaffected by changes in the past.” - Dragon Ball wiki
Anyways, RF still wins
@@particlephysics_lee again that’s not how the ring works, it doesn’t let you freely travel through time, there are strict limitations. Not to mention Beerus specifically used Hakai to erase Zamasu for the sole purpose of erasing Black from time which the ring protected him from, Black can be killed normally.
@@Andrew-Bastin Omg you misunderstood my point, I never mentioned about the limited Time Travelling, it’s true but unrelated
Can you like… READ the text
*but because he was wearing the Time Ring in the anime, he was unaffected by changes in the past.” - Dragon Ball wiki*
If you died in the PAST, you also died in the future, and that statement literally said that Black is unaffected by any changes to his PAST
If he’s killed 10 seconds ago, that is his change to his PAST, he should be dead in the future but because of the ring he’s somehow still alive
One of my favorite battles. Reverse Flash is one of my favorite dc villains. He’s so petty lol
Analysis might have been a bit iffy, but the fight animation is definitely some of DB’s best work. Some other ones I think Nux would like are Guts VS Dimitri, DIO VS Alucard, and All Might VS Might Guy.
regardless if the Analysis is wrong or iffy this was destined win for RF Dc comic characters are just ina different level
@@Bigtwinkissac209 Unless there Batman then DB nerf's any feat that seems beyond human.
I mean only one part of the analysis was a bit iffy and that's mostly Goku black cuz reverse flash is perfect but the fight was amazing
@@LegacyartistI mean he is kind of overhyped
@@Keith_Norman Not so much when he's a street level hero. However when he's with the Justice League especially in comics oh boy is he ever. Comic writers keep writing him like he's an all knowing psychic with near Captain America level physical abilities when he stands next to Superman. The DCAU did Batman in the Justice League right for the most part. However DB is based on feats and over hyped or not they ignore a lot of Batman's canon and I agree totally nonsense feats in ever fight he's been in.
I would suggest Alucard vs Dio, it's a good one.
Ryuko Matoi vs Shadow the Hedgehog is great as well.
For the record, this is Goku Black, as in the version of Zamasu that has Goku's body and not the immortal Zamasu or the fusion of Goku Black and Zamasu that became one with the universe.
That means that this version of Goku Black is tough, but still effectively mortal.
Zamasu definitely a hall of shame anime villain.
So one thing about the *merges with the universe* thing. That's technically a zamasu feat. It was because zamasu had wished himself immortal and in the fight zamasu and goku black merged permanently with the God earings.
Eobard Thawne, a genius in his own right and a speedster, a type of being known for thinking as fast as they can run, from a universe where power rings of all sorts are something he is plenty aware of.
Nux: Theres no way hed figure out the time ring
Just gotta say this about the teleportation, it’s not a plot whole. Any form of teleportation in any media/real life seems instance but it’s a process of transferring some type of energy from point A to B the flash is faster than the process
20:46 That's how it was in the CW Show. He hated the Flash so much that it broke time in every reality
The worst part is that they aren't all statements a lot of them were actually shown happening in the comic book.
Nux: they are not anime tho. That is the problem
@@dakaraipatterson2986 what Tenchi Muyo showed washu, tokami and tsunami were shown having to put the universe back together after tenshi essentially lost his mind and nearly destroyed the was the universe or a multiverse ?. This was when they learned the origin of washu it was in one of the Tenchi Muyo movie Z or something like that it also showed that being cut in half altered ryoko spaceship so that when it hatched again there was two of them despite ryuko been able to merge them back together the fact that at one point there had been two of them is probably why we got another version of it for attention Muyo GXP
The Flash and Reverse Flash destroy the universe on a regular baises so it's not a throw away line
"Remember that time you you missed your punches against vegeta? It was me Goku. I moved your every punch at speeds beyond your imagination so wouldn't hit your punches. "
Nux really went past full weeaboo into Otaku. I've never seen a man hate comics so much when manga has the same BS in it.
I mean Trunks is a literal paradox in the same way Thawne is by having Cell Kill him before he even went back in time to help the Z fighterz but DBZ is so much more consistent right?
It is because it has martial arts in it. That is legit the only thing I can think of.
A character in DC that has the power the wipe things from existence, couldnt wipe Reverse flash from the dc universe, Goku Black cant do shit
But man Nux never fails to be annoying and whiny, really helping the stereotypes with vtubers and anime nerds