I wouldn't touch it, or even swap the engine. Just touch up the bumpers. It's a "track car", and that is a nice selling point. Maybe swap the turbo for a variable geometry turbo, rebuild the transmission with upgraded parts to handle the boost, and replace the rear bumper for a steel unit.
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@@MikeB85 I think replacing the turbo for a variable geometry turbo should be the first thing to do. It would improve the driving experience making it more drivable, not having that switch boost effect.
@Guus van de Velde my exact thought. There’s a TON of slipping going on there. Otherwise there would’ve been black smoke coming from the rear and Wizard would be installing new tires soon after
Watching Hoovie play-acting the head thrown back in his amateur way is always good for a laugh ... In a Tesla in ludicrous mode, Hoovies head would detach from his body and continue talking from the back seats (if he could film that) ...
They're talking about changing the turbo, not the engine. The turbo on that car now is not the one that originally came with that engine, it was upgraded for racing purposes.
That 911 is far and away the nicest/coolest car you’ve had on this channel. Unless you’re going to restore it to OEM spec then leave it as is! It’s a beautiful machine that just needs a little TLC. I’m sure you’ve worked hard for all that you’ve achieved, but you’re still a very, very lucky man! No jealousy here though. Just appreciation for all the content you share with us
100% leave it looking as is, Just fix the mechanicals. I never disagree with Hoovie but changing the body work and spoiler is wrong that car looks perfect as is
Can’t call it’s priceless when the price tag is right there! lol. Can you imagine the other income he gets from Tyler with basically gifting the wizard his very own UA-cam channel? Plus all the guest spots. Wizard is doing allllright these days. I wish he would open a chain of shops and make all his employees come train with him. I would have my entire family use the wizard shops, nation wide.
I personally love the whale tail spoiler. It's iconic to me. Looking back at older Porsches growing up, the ones with whale tails are the ones I remember most. Very exotic looking, and sporty, and I've only seen Porsche do it. It curves in just the right way with the hips of the car.
I believe it is a "tea tray" spoiler, far more common than a true "whale tail". One cannot be too pedantic about the 911. ;) (I wouldn't know except that a previous owner installed a tea tray on my '82 SC.)
But this car wasn't a Turbo, in fact, the Turbos weren't even for sale back in '74, they didn't appear until '76 and they had a completely different tail. This particular tail wasn't even available until '78 and it's not considered a whale tail, the '76 and '77s were whale tails. It doesn't suit the car, IMO.
OK, you have a lovely Porsche hot rod. That's a good thing. I dunno about changing the bodywork much ... Ratty and outlaw is what makes it works. I'd sure do whatever it takes to make the interior max comfy if you are going drive it much.
Another vote for leave it as is, I think you’re gonna take all the character out of it. Fix the transmission, sort the fuel injection, throw some classic Recaro recliners in it, drive it. It looks awesome with the RSR-look bumpers and whale tail and everything, just drive it! Also, laggy old school boost suits that car, why would you want a nice linear modern power band?! Buy a 991 turbo if you want that.
@ian trofimov I don’t disagree, but there’s something about the character of a car from a certain era for me. If you refine out too many flaws then you end up with a completely different car. Sometimes worse is better. I mean look at his reaction when it hits boost, it’s exciting, even if it’s technically worse. Not every car has to be perfect, it’s all about the experience.
@ian trofimov yes lag can suck but it can also bring the drama and violence that makes a car scary fun and is very characteristic of these older turbo cars. imo there are 2 laggy setups and one sucks but the other is fun. the one thats fun is when you stab the peddle the first time and lags but then all hell breaks loose and when you shift gears at high rpm you are still in full boost each time you shift the lag that sucks is when you shift gears and boost falls off each time and it needs to build back up every shift.this lag really makes high power cars slower. most prefer a lenear no lag setup for obvious reasons but some love the drama of a little lag. as you stated we have technology that can remove lag like variable vein turbos/correct piping sizing and turbo desig that make big power without the lag like ball bearing turbos and sizing turbine and compressor housngs right for your apllication/electronic boost control/even blow off valves help response as without one the air goes back into the comp wheel between shifts slowing its rpm but these older turbo cars were laggy thus some people dont want to remove that cars character
I’ve been watching your Car Issues show on MotorTrend, Tyler. I’m gonna be honest with you buddy, I just watch it for your personality. I think that your UA-cam videos are far more entertaining and far more well done than Car Issues. It just feels like some other network car show and doesn’t have the same flair that your UA-cam show does. Much love Hoovie.
Yeah, the network shows try to be much more mainstream and appeal to a wider audience, so they will rarely be anywhere near as good as real, genuine UA-cam content from creators who we specifically watch because we enjoy their quirkiness.
I’m really starting to love orange now because of this car. Leave it the way it is, it’s perfect, from the lowered stance, the wheels, and the outlaw accessories. Just fix the tranny and leave the engine alone. You got a hell of a cool 911. Love it.
@bruh meme ahhh i dunno, BBS are fine but maybe the rims should be an inch or two smaller? These don't really go with the time period of the car. In the same way i don't like seeing 20 inch rims on restomoded muscle cars..
Try double-clutch when shifting gears. When you upshift, let rev drop a little while in neutral, then clutch in and engage next gear. On downshift, rev match while in neutral, then clutch in and slot in lower gear. That's how you drive cars without synchros or with damaged ones.
My uncle had an 88 930 turbo and that thing was insane. His was basically mint and had a bunch of period correct modifications to further increase power. I didn't think he'd ever get rid of it but after years of it being worth around $50K the air cooled market did what it did and he sold it for $150K
@@erikz1337 CCW's are a legendary, fantastic wheel. I agree with you. At least with this color scheme. A black or silver 911 with wide Fuchs looks pretty tasty. Tyler's gonna have $100k in this thing pretty quickly.
Your friendship w the car wizard brings me joy. Really enjoy you two. Oh and get it as back to stock as possible w whatever mods you’ll enjoy. Definitively “unrace car “ it!
"Double clutch" and that trans will not crunch. The syncros are toast in 1-3. Doing this means they don't need to "wind up" or down. I had to do it on a K27 turbo 1979 930 I drove for awhile. It still hauled ass.
Exactly. I was cringing a little asking him to double clutch it in my head. Spent a lot of my life driving big rigs and they aren’t synchronized at all
That thing is making me smile from the couch, I can only imagine how addictive that is. Absolutely insane, never sell it! Reminds me of a 1995 993 I drove once at 17…horrible clutch, batshit crazy at the rear and one of the best days of my life! Made even better by the fact I couldn’t believe the old guy let me drive it 😁
There's a reason the 930 Turbo was called The Widowmaker. LOL. That turbo is like an on/off switch. Imagine that thing kicking in when you're in a curve on a racetrack. Impossible to keep the back end behind you in that case. And Leonard's absolutely right -- you couldn't take a pristine, all-original '74 Carrera and do *anything* with it, other than keep it all original. But because this one was modified back in the day, you can do anything you want to with this car. A glorious opportunity!! I can't wait to see it when it's done!
The K-jet has a frequency valve which can reduce the head pressure on the fuel distributor, allowing the flapper to move more easily, thereby enriching the mixture. The frequency valve is also connected to a pressure switch. Setting the fuel mixture there won't necessarily fix the problem. You really need to check the control pressure at the warm up regulator first!! Lean out a turbo car too much, and you melt pistons.
Turbo engines on a NA gearbox usually drive like that due to lower ratio gearset and shorter final drive in a NA car. Turbo gearboxes have longer ratios to take advantage of the on boost powerband.
@@waynepantry7023 What? He's just pointing it out because Hoovie is talking about changing all of the components of the turbo, instead of looking at what the issue really is. There's no way Porsche designed what I was seeing for a power band in this video, that's insane. At the same time, you don't want to take ALLL of that old school, boost lag danger out of the thing by throwing in a brand new twin scroll or something of the sort... At least in my opinion. I think this was worth mentioning for sure, since his tranny is on the fritz already, he might just throw a turbo tranny in there and then not have to incur the cost of upgrading the rest. He can just work on freshening the engine and turbo up a bit, while getting the driveability he wanted out of a longer gear set. No need to be a child, Watson. He just saw you over there breathing out your mouth, and thought you could use an explanation.
If it was me, i would keep it has it is, fixing the minor issues, keeping the petina, and enjoying it, otherwise it might be a garage queen. Nice work Hoovie.
I have a uncle in Santa Barbra with a blue 70's 911 SC Targa. I got to ride in it as a teen. I used to have a 76' Porsche 914/4 back in the 90's. My 914 mechanic took me for a spin in an orange 911 Carrera that looked just like this one. I'm very excited to see how this rebuild turns out. I completely agree with the Boosted guy on changing the bumpers. Although I wouldn't change the engine or turbo if It were mine. The transmission needs some love. Thanks.
Back in 1987 I purchased a 1970 911 for 5k. It was like yours built for the track. It had a racing suspension and a roll bar. Racing seats and a 1974 2.7 engine that was massaged to produce 220 WHP in a 2300 lbs car. I kept that car since then. I was 16 years old when I bought it. Today is back to stock form and I must say that I am glad I stated that process 20 years ago, so it wasn’t that expensive to restore. However, I still have that 2.7 engine, but now it’s in a 1976 911. However, I would love to have that 3.0 turbo you have.
Keep the configuration as-is. Engine, ridiculous tail, melty bumper. EFI convert it to get the fuel mix under control. Modernizing the turbo is tempting, but that comedy lag and then stab is absolutely fantastic and EFI is the only way you're ever going to get that to be anything but temperamental.
Hoovie, I just gotta say that is one of the most gorgeous 911s I have seen and your plan is perfect. The wheels are perfect. The original bumpers will be perfect. A modern turbo and intercooler, perfect. Sell your other porsches, even Apollo before you sell this one. If you do, you will regret it.
Having owned more than a dozen Porsches, I would suggest keeping the original paint (only repairing and repainting any small areas with damage), rebuilding the trans, removing the front part of the roll cage and fitting comfortable, stock sport seats.
Definitely keep that turbo engine, it's a riot. Just do what needs to be done to get it comfortably road worthy, don't need it in pristine show car condition.
Porsche guy saying he can take 2k rpm off with a new exhaust and some tuning? It doesn't work like that unless the exhaust he has is incredibly restricted
Way back when those cars were new on the lot, one was "borrowed" for a test drive from a dealership in the Charlotte, NC area. Later that evening/night it became the focus of a two state high speed chase in which I, as a small town LEO, took part.... Along with SC State Troopers in 5.0 Mustangs and Sheriff's Deputies in Chevy Cameros. My department, at the time, was equipped with Ford Crown Victoria "Interceptors" which were left far behind by all the other vehicles mentioned above....So we said screw it and broke off from the "Tail End Charlie Position" and returned to our duties in town......And the 911 easilly smoked all the Mustangs and Comeros. We never did find out what happened to that Porsche but I strongly suspect it became a drug runner's favorite car on the I-95 "Cocaine Corridor" of the era.
I can believe it. Even the lowly early NA cars are far quicker than they have any right to be. Those Porsche engineers totally nailed it. The balance of those cars is unbelievably good. When the turbo models first arrived they were just ridiculous, there was no keeping up with a well driven 930, even the big fast exotics got left behind when the roads got twisty. And well, Porsches reputation in motorsport speaks for itself. They've won pretty much everything that's worth winning multiple times, and continue to do so.
@Martin I, and other LEOs of that time, also thought "Chop Shop Bound" or even that it was destined for an overseas possibly Middle Eastern port of call.
@@theParticleGod Why make sure you're going to have to get into a chase, when you only have the possibility in another car? It's not like there aren't other options that a drug runner could afford to soup up to leave stock police cars in the dust.
From those of us who will never own or even such a car and can only dream, much envy and yet appreciation for you sharing it with us Hoovie. You are an exceptional entertainer. You also illustrate how a person like you can make the right kind of friends who can do what you can't and together can make great things happen. I've been fortunate in that regard with my "tank" and retro 1909 Hardley Davidson motorized bike (a ton of friends' talent and volunteer work). We built these from scratch (sort of on the bike). Humble but still satisfying for an ordinary person.
I don't know why you want to re-do it when it's all together and driving fine as it is. I could see maybe adding some kind of ducting or cooling to address the melting bumper, and also I think it would be a good idea to modernize the turbo so that the boost comes on earlier and smoother. Also I have to say I did prefer the 5 spokes you had on in the intro, they suit it much better. Those new ones look too bling on it.
I had an 84 930 from Canada with the long gears and watching your face when the boost hit brought back a ton of good memories. Love these old air-cooled Porsches!
OMG. I've driven turbos before and the boost was awesome, but I've never seen it kick in like it does in your Porche. I've heard it's crazy sudden, but ... holy cow ... that's crazy! 😳
Air cooled Porsches have always been my all time favorite cars. Absolutely beautiful styling. I would’ve definitely kept the aftermarket wheels. It gives it a much faster and aggressive look.
I agree on the wheels. Keep the period correct ones but PLEASE put the others back on. Fix: Trans, engine drivability issues, wiring, touch up the bumpers, and dress up the interior.
Every day a 911 gets put back onto its Fuchs rims is a good day. Seeing how relatively shoddy the interior looks, I would probably de-race the car too. If it were me, I probably wouldn't go for Pascha seats but rather for those cool, late 70s/early 80s leather + plaid cloth seats they had back then. They kinda looked like the plaid seats you'd get in early Golf GTIs.
Leave the bumpers and whale tail, they look great, especially with the Fuchs wheels. Not sure why you'd change those...Color is awesome, and the paint does not look bad a t all ! Just do the wiring and trans and better seats and drive it and enjoy !
In a vacuum or on a more recent 911, the newer wheels look far better to my eye. However, in context the period-correct look superior . Nice. David the Wizard is a gem on every level.
You might want to try double-clutching during shifts, it'll likely help with the grinding. Push the clutch pedal in- shift to Neutral- release clutch pedal- push the clutch in- then shift to your next gear. I used to have an old fox body LX 5.0 Mustang that had a bad 2nd gear synchro and double-clutching definitely helped. I'd probably try to avoid downshifting if you can.
Leave the body alone! That was the "love at first site moment!" I agree with so many of the comments. Fix the broken stuff and interior and enjoy it! We are going to ❤ to see the car done! ENJOY!
I'm only a couple minutes in and you started the car... And that idle is the perfect low pitch for my subwoofer to completely shake the floor of my house. It sounds amazing.
YES YES YES! I haven’t started the video, but yes save it. That thing is amazing and one of my absolute fav cars on the channel. Keep it orange though! That paint is 🔥!
Of course things are working out, they’re Porsches. 😄(I’ve been driving mine for 14 years) I have the same quite valuable sport seats in my 924S…I got them for free from a parts car. 😎 Very much approve of the Fuchs
I work at a porsche dealership, honestly I'd recommend a porsche classic certified dealership, they do restorations of classic porsches, that'll probably be your best bet at finding parts, since porsche has a supply of original parts and if they don't have one they will make it.
The boost is comedy gold, the period correct wheels are great. Nice that you got your "buy a bunch of car repairs, have your screws turned for free" punch card cashed in 🤣 I'd keep it mostly the way it is, don't go crazy with paint or erasing patina. Ceramic coat that patina.
Keep the IROC style bumpers, impact bumpers (bleh). turbo updates are great, brother has a 930 with the upgrades and the powerband is a bit lower RPM but still feels awesome on boost. $20k is a good price if it doesn't creep up...in the P-car world it always creeps up :D I love narrow body P-cars with extra power...I'm a 914 guy making a 230hp narrow body and the Porsche tax is real!!!
I want to thank you Tyler for sharing this and hope you read this. Its always been my dream to own a 70s carerra mainly a 73 but I wouldn't be picky at this point but being on a pension of under 700 a month yeah that dream is going to die with me. Just no hope in that coming true. I guess if there is one just one miracle I could ask for that would be it but miracles seem to be in short supply but taking me along for a ride in this video was enough to make me tear up in happiness so thank you for sharing this truly meant alot to me. God bless you Tyler and the hooptie fleet and your family. Thank you
You could try double clutching it to sync up the gears till you get the transmission rebuilt or replaced. Looks and sounds like a cool car with a great factory engine swap to make a lesser version up to the car most can't afford.
I gotta say, I liked the other wheels more, something about them just screamed "badass". Also, I like the body as-is, just upgrade the interior and make it more comfortable.
I personally love this Porsche 911, and the car may need some work but it’s nowhere near a ratty car by any means. You have to finish this build and keep it.
I wouldn't touch it, or even swap the engine. Just touch up the bumpers. It's a "track car", and that is a nice selling point. Maybe swap the turbo for a variable geometry turbo, rebuild the transmission with upgraded parts to handle the boost, and replace the rear bumper for a steel unit.
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Agreed 100%
@@MikeB85 I think replacing the turbo for a variable geometry turbo should be the first thing to do. It would improve the driving experience making it more drivable, not having that switch boost effect.
That’s a plan!
I m not really knowledgeable on this stuff but wouldn’t variable geometry turbos take away from its thrill factor
This car is insane, i love it! Keep it the way it is, just fix the bumpers, transmission, etc
Don't you know hoovie is a car fipper now lol
It’s the et cetera that’ll get you.
Leave it don’t screw it up!
Watching that tach jump as the turbo came on line was worth it
@Guus van de Velde my exact thought. There’s a TON of slipping going on there. Otherwise there would’ve been black smoke coming from the rear and Wizard would be installing new tires soon after
It's actually called a tach pump not jump
Watching Hoovie play-acting the head thrown back in his amateur way is always good for a laugh ... In a Tesla in ludicrous mode, Hoovies head would detach from his body and continue talking from the back seats (if he could film that) ...
@@Jester-Riddle Teslas are soulless though
Boy you ain’t lying
Do transmition, comfort seats and wiring ONLY.. car looks 100% excellent and nice.
Exactly! Nothing wrong with that tail - it tells the story of how the car got there!
That lag, lag, “power hits you in the face like a 2x4” is part of the reason the 930 earned that “Widow maker” nickname. Enjoy it, shiny side up. Lol
DONT CHANGE THE ENGINE!!!!! Just get it paint corrected and ceramic coated or clear wrapped for protection and have fun with it!!!
They're talking about changing the turbo, not the engine. The turbo on that car now is not the one that originally came with that engine, it was upgraded for racing purposes.
Classic cars like this deserve a nice layer of wax, new age ceramic paint protection doesn't suit classic cars
annnnnnnd a transmission lol.
Fix the turbo. The one that is on there makes the car practically undriveable.
Did you watch the video ?
That 911 is far and away the nicest/coolest car you’ve had on this channel.
Unless you’re going to restore it to OEM spec then leave it as is! It’s a beautiful machine that just needs a little TLC.
I’m sure you’ve worked hard for all that you’ve achieved, but you’re still a very, very lucky man! No jealousy here though. Just appreciation for all the content you share with us
coolest, yes!
You are so right. The Murcie though... except for that interior. But yeah, old Porches are something special.
Definitely the coolest of Hoovies' cars -- but hell yes, I'm jealous. I'll never own a car like that and it really makes me sad. I hope he gets piles.
100% leave it looking as is, Just fix the mechanicals. I never disagree with Hoovie but changing the body work and spoiler is wrong that car looks perfect as is
Car Wizard's laugh when he tells Hoovie he's spent 80k this year with him...priceless!
I thought that number seemed LOW. HA
Who else was surprised that it was "only" 80k?
Can’t call it’s priceless when the price tag is right there! lol. Can you imagine the other income he gets from Tyler with basically gifting the wizard his very own UA-cam channel? Plus all the guest spots. Wizard is doing allllright these days. I wish he would open a chain of shops and make all his employees come train with him. I would have my entire family use the wizard shops, nation wide.
@@tipsofme I scratch your back, you scratch my back.
I noticed the wizard was gazing adoringly at Hoovie. I understood once he said $80k in one year.
Wizard: "Eh, this one is free"
Hoovie: "Really? Thank you!"
Wizard: "You're welcome. You'll be back with it soon enough anyway'"
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"This one is on the house." Man, that's what I'm talking about. You guys keep crushing it. Awesome. Peace out.
I personally love the whale tail spoiler. It's iconic to me. Looking back at older Porsches growing up, the ones with whale tails are the ones I remember most. Very exotic looking, and sporty, and I've only seen Porsche do it. It curves in just the right way with the hips of the car.
The turbo cars need them for the intercooler!
Same. I say keep the whale tale.
I believe it is a "tea tray" spoiler, far more common than a true "whale tail". One cannot be too pedantic about the 911. ;) (I wouldn't know except that a previous owner installed a tea tray on my '82 SC.)
@@curtaustin8119 good call! I didn't realize the difference. It looks like true whale tails were only on pre intercooled 930s
But this car wasn't a Turbo, in fact, the Turbos weren't even for sale back in '74, they didn't appear until '76 and they had a completely different tail. This particular tail wasn't even available until '78 and it's not considered a whale tail, the '76 and '77s were whale tails. It doesn't suit the car, IMO.
Keep the body the way it is! Don't try to make it look more stock. It's different and that's what makes it awesome!
OK, you have a lovely Porsche hot rod. That's a good thing. I dunno about changing the bodywork much ... Ratty and outlaw is what makes it works.
I'd sure do whatever it takes to make the interior max comfy if you are going drive it much.
Another vote for leave it as is, I think you’re gonna take all the character out of it. Fix the transmission, sort the fuel injection, throw some classic Recaro recliners in it, drive it. It looks awesome with the RSR-look bumpers and whale tail and everything, just drive it! Also, laggy old school boost suits that car, why would you want a nice linear modern power band?! Buy a 991 turbo if you want that.
@ian trofimov I don’t disagree, but there’s something about the character of a car from a certain era for me. If you refine out too many flaws then you end up with a completely different car. Sometimes worse is better. I mean look at his reaction when it hits boost, it’s exciting, even if it’s technically worse. Not every car has to be perfect, it’s all about the experience.
@@StringTheoryBen going backwards into a ditch is certainly an experience.
yeah, those black and orange Recaros would be the bomb diggity.
COMPLETELY agree!! leave the Car as it is Exterior Wise . just upgrade the interior and Driveline and he's set!
@ian trofimov yes lag can suck but it can also bring the drama and violence that makes a car scary fun and is very characteristic of these older turbo cars.
imo there are 2 laggy setups and one sucks but the other is fun.
the one thats fun is when you stab the peddle the first time and lags but then all hell breaks loose and when you shift gears at high rpm you are still in full boost each time you shift
the lag that sucks is when you shift gears and boost falls off each time and it needs to build back up every shift.this lag really makes high power cars slower.
most prefer a lenear no lag setup for obvious reasons but some love the drama of a little lag.
as you stated we have technology that can remove lag like variable vein turbos/correct piping sizing and turbo desig that make big power without the lag like ball bearing turbos and sizing turbine and compressor housngs right for your apllication/electronic boost control/even blow off valves help response as without one the air goes back into the comp wheel between shifts slowing its rpm but these older turbo cars were laggy thus some people dont want to remove that cars character
That is a fantastic looking car (p.s. I am not biased at all :D ).
Hey Jeff is here! Love your work mate, can't wait to see the alferarri fire up.
Cousin to "Harry", with a lot more grunt.
Love you’re work Jeff. That Alferrari is going to be sooo cool.
Onya cobber!
Seems like working on Hoovies cars is better than investing in Bitcoin.
Do NOT replace that engine. That’s awesome!
👍 agreed DO NOT REPLACE THAT ENGINE
Was this turbo called the "Widowmaker " ? Just wondering.
It’s lovely how it smokes the tires every time boost comes in.
@@george40nelson4 yes it was..unpredictable and dangerous especially in the wet&cold.
@@duncandonovan5270 don't drive in the wet and cold.....or just don't floor it
I’ve been watching your Car Issues show on MotorTrend, Tyler. I’m gonna be honest with you buddy, I just watch it for your personality. I think that your UA-cam videos are far more entertaining and far more well done than Car Issues. It just feels like some other network car show and doesn’t have the same flair that your UA-cam show does. Much love Hoovie.
Yeah, the network shows try to be much more mainstream and appeal to a wider audience, so they will rarely be anywhere near as good as real, genuine UA-cam content from creators who we specifically watch because we enjoy their quirkiness.
It's called a script, and you're right.
I’m really starting to love orange now because of this car. Leave it the way it is, it’s perfect, from the lowered stance, the wheels, and the outlaw accessories. Just fix the tranny and leave the engine alone. You got a hell of a cool 911. Love it.
@bruh meme ahhh i dunno, BBS are fine but maybe the rims should be an inch or two smaller? These don't really go with the time period of the car. In the same way i don't like seeing 20 inch rims on restomoded muscle cars..
@bruh meme well duh..?
It is a great looking car.
Try double-clutch when shifting gears. When you upshift, let rev drop a little while in neutral, then clutch in and engage next gear. On downshift, rev match while in neutral, then clutch in and slot in lower gear. That's how you drive cars without synchros or with damaged ones.
100% true. Old trucks without synchros taught you this quickly.
This is the only 930 test drive on UA-cam that actually shows the turbo effect properly.
That "hammer hit" turbo leap was the reason those T930's killed so many drivers. Dangerous but what a machine.
My uncle had an 88 930 turbo and that thing was insane. His was basically mint and had a bunch of period correct modifications to further increase power. I didn't think he'd ever get rid of it but after years of it being worth around $50K the air cooled market did what it did and he sold it for $150K
@@EdwardM104 The Porsche Smell should be a car interior spray.
@@EdwardM104 the air cooled porshes were good buys for a while. Run great on hot days.
Only car I've ever driven that truly scared me. Only worse fright I had on wheels was my heavily modified kawasaki H2. I sold it after 1 ride.
@@buckykattguitar those kawasakis are scary af. What about the stingrays.... uncontrollable.
Such a great car - and replacing the wheels has been such a leap. This little project looks so full of promise. Thanks.
Those are CCW forged wheels he replaced. The Fuchs replicas are a downgrade technology wise, unless he spent money on AWS Forged Fuchs repros.
I liked the old wheels better, Fuchs wheels look too oversized
@@erikz1337 CCW's are a legendary, fantastic wheel. I agree with you. At least with this color scheme. A black or silver 911 with wide Fuchs looks pretty tasty. Tyler's gonna have $100k in this thing pretty quickly.
@@CS-Loc old wheels were Fikse FM10
@@j.reddout My bad. They look similar. Fiske's are amazing wheels too.
The way the boost hits looks so fun 😍. In my opinion, just leave it and do a little touch up so you can continue enjoying it like the 348.
Still though Lennard will make this "orange" really awesome..
Your friendship w the car wizard brings me joy. Really enjoy you two. Oh and get it as back to stock as possible w whatever mods you’ll enjoy. Definitively “unrace car “ it!
One cannot stop falling in love with the widowmaker!
yes!
Keep the 3.0 Turbo! Maybe replace the turbo with a modern unit that spools faster.
Half the fun and the danger was how these spooled 😂
The car is beautiful as is! Paint correction, ceramic wax and done with the body... bumpers, turbo correct, transmission, tune and it's my dream 911.
"Double clutch" and that trans will not crunch. The syncros are toast in 1-3. Doing this means they don't need to "wind up" or down. I had to do it on a K27 turbo 1979 930 I drove for awhile. It still hauled ass.
Exactly. I was cringing a little asking him to double clutch it in my head. Spent a lot of my life driving big rigs and they aren’t synchronized at all
You’re granny shifting not double clutching like ya should
@@RyCorp77 now me and the mad scientist are gonna have to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried!
I was thinking the same thing. STOP Grinding that gear,,,, and just double clutch it.
@@chillywilly521 It's a pain and slow, but slowing the syncros down will work. CDL drivers have to do this since thoses trans do not have syncros.
Grew up in the 80s and always loved the big spoilers on these. I’d keep it if it were mine, but it yours…have fun with this project.
That thing is making me smile from the couch, I can only imagine how addictive that is. Absolutely insane, never sell it! Reminds me of a 1995 993 I drove once at 17…horrible clutch, batshit crazy at the rear and one of the best days of my life! Made even better by the fact I couldn’t believe the old guy let me drive it 😁
the wizard laugh when he told Tyler he has spent over $80,000 in his shop this year was priceless!
Tyler probably makes 800k with wizards expertise
The Fuchs look perfect...I love how it breaks the tires loose on boost
Old tires
needs LSD :)
Happy to see Tyler came to his senses and decided to keep the Turbo engine! That thing is insane! It's worth every cent to make it better! 😁
There's a reason the 930 Turbo was called The Widowmaker. LOL. That turbo is like an on/off switch. Imagine that thing kicking in when you're in a curve on a racetrack. Impossible to keep the back end behind you in that case.
And Leonard's absolutely right -- you couldn't take a pristine, all-original '74 Carrera and do *anything* with it, other than keep it all original. But because this one was modified back in the day, you can do anything you want to with this car. A glorious opportunity!! I can't wait to see it when it's done!
:)
The K-jet has a frequency valve which can reduce the head pressure on the fuel distributor, allowing the flapper to move more easily, thereby enriching the mixture. The frequency valve is also connected to a pressure switch. Setting the fuel mixture there won't necessarily fix the problem. You really need to check the control pressure at the warm up regulator first!!
Lean out a turbo car too much, and you melt pistons.
Turbo engines on a NA gearbox usually drive like that due to lower ratio gearset and shorter final drive in a NA car. Turbo gearboxes have longer ratios to take advantage of the on boost powerband.
So swapping to the turbo transmission would give hoovie all the drivability he is looking for without having to touch the engine or turbo
@@waynepantry7023 What? He's just pointing it out because Hoovie is talking about changing all of the components of the turbo, instead of looking at what the issue really is.
There's no way Porsche designed what I was seeing for a power band in this video, that's insane. At the same time, you don't want to take ALLL of that old school, boost lag danger out of the thing by throwing in a brand new twin scroll or something of the sort... At least in my opinion.
I think this was worth mentioning for sure, since his tranny is on the fritz already, he might just throw a turbo tranny in there and then not have to incur the cost of upgrading the rest. He can just work on freshening the engine and turbo up a bit, while getting the driveability he wanted out of a longer gear set.
No need to be a child, Watson. He just saw you over there breathing out your mouth, and thought you could use an explanation.
That boost is crazy no wonder the gearbox is screwed, that's freaking brilliant. Don't change a thing...... Except maybe the gearbox.
If it was me, i would keep it has it is, fixing the minor issues, keeping the petina, and enjoying it, otherwise it might be a garage queen. Nice work Hoovie.
I have a uncle in Santa Barbra with a blue 70's 911 SC Targa. I got to ride in it as a teen. I used to have a 76' Porsche 914/4 back in the 90's. My 914 mechanic took me for a spin in an orange 911 Carrera that looked just like this one. I'm very excited to see how this rebuild turns out. I completely agree with the Boosted guy on changing the bumpers. Although I wouldn't change the engine or turbo if It were mine. The transmission needs some love. Thanks.
neat
Back in 1987 I purchased a 1970 911 for 5k. It was like yours built for the track. It had a racing suspension and a roll bar. Racing seats and a 1974 2.7 engine that was massaged to produce 220 WHP in a 2300 lbs car. I kept that car since then. I was 16 years old when I bought it. Today is back to stock form and I must say that I am glad I stated that process 20 years ago, so it wasn’t that expensive to restore. However, I still have that 2.7 engine, but now it’s in a 1976 911. However, I would love to have that 3.0 turbo you have.
nice
Keep the configuration as-is. Engine, ridiculous tail, melty bumper. EFI convert it to get the fuel mix under control. Modernizing the turbo is tempting, but that comedy lag and then stab is absolutely fantastic and EFI is the only way you're ever going to get that to be anything but temperamental.
The comedy lag is fun only in a straight line. They nick named these widow makers.
Most deaths happened on exit ramps iirc...
replace the fugly melty plastic bumpers with good old fashioned chromed steel, bringing it to European specs.
@@alk3myst Yep, hit that boost in a turn and it's swapping ends.
Wizard is such a gentleman. He's so knowledgeable and really does add enormous depth to the channel.
That boost is insane when it hits, lovely sound of the engine.
This could be the best (meaning smartest) Hoovies Garage episode ever!
:)))
Hoovie, I just gotta say that is one of the most gorgeous 911s I have seen and your plan is perfect. The wheels are perfect. The original bumpers will be perfect. A modern turbo and intercooler, perfect. Sell your other porsches, even Apollo before you sell this one. If you do, you will regret it.
Having owned more than a dozen Porsches, I would suggest keeping the original paint (only repairing and repainting any small areas with damage), rebuilding the trans, removing the front part of the roll cage and fitting comfortable, stock sport seats.
Definitely keep that turbo engine, it's a riot. Just do what needs to be done to get it comfortably road worthy, don't need it in pristine show car condition.
Porsche guy saying he can take 2k rpm off with a new exhaust and some tuning? It doesn't work like that unless the exhaust he has is incredibly restricted
Way back when those cars were new on the lot, one was "borrowed" for a test drive from a dealership in the Charlotte, NC area. Later that evening/night it became the focus of a two state high speed chase in which I, as a small town LEO, took part.... Along with SC State Troopers in 5.0 Mustangs and Sheriff's Deputies in Chevy Cameros. My department, at the time, was equipped with Ford Crown Victoria "Interceptors" which were left far behind by all the other vehicles mentioned above....So we said screw it and broke off from the "Tail End Charlie Position" and returned to our duties in town......And the 911 easilly smoked all the Mustangs and Comeros. We never did find out what happened to that Porsche but I strongly suspect it became a drug runner's favorite car on the I-95 "Cocaine Corridor" of the era.
I can believe it. Even the lowly early NA cars are far quicker than they have any right to be. Those Porsche engineers totally nailed it. The balance of those cars is unbelievably good. When the turbo models first arrived they were just ridiculous, there was no keeping up with a well driven 930, even the big fast exotics got left behind when the roads got twisty. And well, Porsches reputation in motorsport speaks for itself. They've won pretty much everything that's worth winning multiple times, and continue to do so.
@Martin if you're not planning to stop, it doesn't matter if the car is stolen.
@Martin I, and other LEOs of that time, also thought "Chop Shop Bound" or even that it was destined for an overseas possibly Middle Eastern port of call.
@@theParticleGod Why make sure you're going to have to get into a chase, when you only have the possibility in another car? It's not like there aren't other options that a drug runner could afford to soup up to leave stock police cars in the dust.
@@danielnelson4881 You'd run drugs without stolen plates?
That Porsche dude is so cool. I wish I was so chill like that.
he's not that cool
@@The911Den well he seems super chill and like he just wants to have a good time. Like a surfer Porsche guy.
@@jmorris023 you are very kind. I was just kidding. ❤️
Of all the cars that have been in your fleet, this is my favorite. Just seeing and hearing the boost come on is glorious.
It’s beautiful but I liked the other rims more but I understand you’re going with the time period correct rims!
From those of us who will never own or even such a car and can only dream, much envy and yet appreciation for you sharing it with us Hoovie. You are an exceptional entertainer. You also illustrate how a person like you can make the right kind of friends who can do what you can't and together can make great things happen. I've been fortunate in that regard with my "tank" and retro 1909 Hardley Davidson motorized bike (a ton of friends' talent and volunteer work). We built these from scratch (sort of on the bike). Humble but still satisfying for an ordinary person.
I don't know why you want to re-do it when it's all together and driving fine as it is. I could see maybe adding some kind of ducting or cooling to address the melting bumper, and also I think it would be a good idea to modernize the turbo so that the boost comes on earlier and smoother. Also I have to say I did prefer the 5 spokes you had on in the intro, they suit it much better. Those new ones look too bling on it.
Duuuuide..I'm in love.. you put those wheels on it and. It all just comes together!!
I think this is my favorite car in your whole fleet.
I had an 84 930 from Canada with the long gears and watching your face when the boost hit brought back a ton of good memories. Love these old air-cooled Porsches!
Dammit now I'm back in my 930 obsession phase almost. That thing rips.
My 930 never disappointed!!! ALWAYS an adrenaline rush!!!
Never change that engine and turbo combo. It's perfect. Maybe just some modern management.
OMG. I've driven turbos before and the boost was awesome, but I've never seen it kick in like it does in your Porche. I've heard it's crazy sudden, but ... holy cow ... that's crazy! 😳
That's because the old tires had no traction
That’s why the old one with that engine was called the widow maker
Thank god you put some Fuchs back on that car, looks 10x better, looking foward to the ducktail
Air cooled Porsches have always been my all time favorite cars. Absolutely beautiful styling.
I would’ve definitely kept the aftermarket wheels. It gives it a much faster and aggressive look.
I agree on the wheels. Keep the period correct ones but PLEASE put the others back on. Fix: Trans, engine drivability issues, wiring, touch up the bumpers, and dress up the interior.
Nah your dreaming, the period ones make it
My friend In high school had 1 of these i had a camero.. Man we had fun in that Porsche
DANG OL CAMERO
Every day a 911 gets put back onto its Fuchs rims is a good day.
Seeing how relatively shoddy the interior looks, I would probably de-race the car too. If it were me, I probably wouldn't go for Pascha seats but rather for those cool, late 70s/early 80s leather + plaid cloth seats they had back then. They kinda looked like the plaid seats you'd get in early Golf GTIs.
Leave the bumpers and whale tail, they look great, especially with the Fuchs wheels. Not sure why you'd change those...Color is awesome, and the paint does not look bad a t all ! Just do the wiring and trans and better seats and drive it and enjoy !
In a vacuum or on a more recent 911, the newer wheels look far better to my eye.
However, in context the period-correct look superior .
Nice.
David the Wizard is a gem on every level.
This is a gorgeous car, you really ought to keep this one permanently. What a classic Porsche vehicle.
I’d tune it so that the boost comes on earlier and smoother and call it done. Take it out to the track and break it like Apollo 😂🔥
This gets me excited to get my 930 finished. Mines actually on its way to paint now and yes…the prices are crazy.
You might want to try double-clutching during shifts, it'll likely help with the grinding. Push the clutch pedal in- shift to Neutral- release clutch pedal- push the clutch in- then shift to your next gear. I used to have an old fox body LX 5.0 Mustang that had a bad 2nd gear synchro and double-clutching definitely helped. I'd probably try to avoid downshifting if you can.
Its the synchronizers. "Double clutching" is a term from the movies to sound technical.
I asked for it, and I got it! MORE PORSCHE CONTENT!! Love xxx
keep asking!
This is a rebuild that will definitely not lose money, even without the UA-cam videos.
Someone in the comments mentioned to have Ammo NYC to restore the paint - I second that idea!
I’m sure Wizard was happy to do all of the work ;)
He's happy to have a friend like Tyler, all his insane cars and all the exposure he gets thanks to Tyler
Leave the body alone! That was the "love at first site moment!" I agree with so many of the comments. Fix the broken stuff and interior and enjoy it! We are going to ❤ to see the car done! ENJOY!
I'm only a couple minutes in and you started the car... And that idle is the perfect low pitch for my subwoofer to completely shake the floor of my house. It sounds amazing.
YES YES YES! I haven’t started the video, but yes save it. That thing is amazing and one of my absolute fav cars on the channel. Keep it orange though! That paint is 🔥!
That boost comes on so hard, I'd be scared to drive it.
That’s why they called it the widowmaker!
@@BeaudoinEric Stole the words out of my mouth.
Dangerous in the hands of someone like Tyler Hoover, the "burnout king", very easy to loose it when the turbo turns it into "crazy car".
@@gazzafloss Dude has more experience than you in these kinds of cars I'm sure....
@@PeugeotRocket maybe...
Of course things are working out, they’re Porsches. 😄(I’ve been driving mine for 14 years)
I have the same quite valuable sport seats in my 924S…I got them for free from a parts car. 😎
Very much approve of the Fuchs
That looks like a hell of a lot of fun to drive just as it is. Well, with a transmission.
You are on the right path with that Porsche guru! I’d love to have that fine specimen!
I work at a porsche dealership, honestly I'd recommend a porsche classic certified dealership, they do restorations of classic porsches, that'll probably be your best bet at finding parts, since porsche has a supply of original parts and if they don't have one they will make it.
The boost is comedy gold, the period correct wheels are great. Nice that you got your "buy a bunch of car repairs, have your screws turned for free" punch card cashed in 🤣 I'd keep it mostly the way it is, don't go crazy with paint or erasing patina. Ceramic coat that patina.
This was a really cool episode, loved seeing all the various mechanics and hearing about the future of this project!
call nyc ammo to detail your car instead of stripping it lol. love the videos though tyler, all the best to your projects and happyness.
I'm not a car guy, but that sounds amazing, crunching notwithstanding.
The Porsche dude seems like an awesome guy to have a beer with. I bet he has stories
lets have a beer
Keep the IROC style bumpers, impact bumpers (bleh). turbo updates are great, brother has a 930 with the upgrades and the powerband is a bit lower RPM but still feels awesome on boost.
$20k is a good price if it doesn't creep up...in the P-car world it always creeps up :D
I love narrow body P-cars with extra power...I'm a 914 guy making a 230hp narrow body and the Porsche tax is real!!!
Impact bumpers bring a lot more value than IROC bumpers these days, it's a classic timeless look now.
Now that you have an pretty 911, What you need next is an real Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth :)
The way the turbo kicks in is part of the character of these early 911s. They're meant to be wild.
You impressed me by knowing where the 5mm Allen went. You are the wizard.
20k is peanuts for that car restoration. Money well spend. I love seeing this car brings back memories of my moms 1988 911 carrera.
Wheels added 10k to the value of the car, beautiful.
Nooo, don't lose the (turbo) bumpers! It is so beautiful the way it is. You have my approval for a ducktail tho 😜
I love it the way it is, sort it out and leave it original and enjoy it!
I want to thank you Tyler for sharing this and hope you read this. Its always been my dream to own a 70s carerra mainly a 73 but I wouldn't be picky at this point but being on a pension of under 700 a month yeah that dream is going to die with me. Just no hope in that coming true. I guess if there is one just one miracle I could ask for that would be it but miracles seem to be in short supply but taking me along for a ride in this video was enough to make me tear up in happiness so thank you for sharing this truly meant alot to me. God bless you Tyler and the hooptie fleet and your family. Thank you
You could try double clutching it to sync up the gears till you get the transmission rebuilt or replaced. Looks and sounds like a cool car with a great factory engine swap to make a lesser version up to the car most can't afford.
I gotta say, I liked the other wheels more, something about them just screamed "badass".
Also, I like the body as-is, just upgrade the interior and make it more comfortable.
Car Wizard Black Friday Special: Get a free throttle adjustment when you spend $80k 🤣
they also charged the battery and cleaned the spark plugs!
I personally love this Porsche 911, and the car may need some work but it’s nowhere near a ratty car by any means. You have to finish this build and keep it.
Those wheels are a huge improvement!
Nailed it with the wheels, Hoovie! Excellent choice