Hasselblad X2D or Leica M11?
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Hasselblad X2D or Leica M11? Which one is on your letter for Santa?
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00:00 intro
00:31 Photo reporter or Astronaut?
01:19 work horse vs. always with you
01:51 TA factor
03:05 metaphor about sensors
05:36 enlarger DSLR vs usual form factor
06:53 which one would you pick
07:38 outro
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For street work nothing beats. Leica M or a Q. For anything else “except sport of course” Hasselblad. I’m a Leica shooter for decades but with the introduction of the X2D I see myself switching from Canon ecosystem to Hasselblad. The X2D is a Fascinating camera that matches in style and quality that of a Leica M. The perfect combo in my opinion.
PS: I still shoot the M9!
"The X2D is a Fascinating camera that matches in style and quality that of a Leica M". Just perfect the way you said it. I hear many experienced photographers like you saying you would have both a Leica M and this Hasselblad. It is still too big for my personal use, but I see a lot of value in it, too. Thanks. Tom
Another good review. I looked at both. The X2D offered more of what I thought was important. The images are marvelous.
Nice video. I picked up the m11 before the announcement of the X2D, but I have no regrets. The lowlight performance of the m11 is actually very good. I have no problem pushing it to 12800. Size is the most important factor to me and Leica wins that with no debate.
Nice to know it is performing good with high ISO, too, I am waiting for the M11 Monochrom to be announced! Thanks for sharing your experience, cheers. Tom
My x2d is coming Tuesday. I’m excited to compare it with my m11 and see what my M lenses look like on the hasselblad
Oh, wow, both those beautiful toys!
That is great news. I have the xcd 45p awaiting my x2d which is coming in another 2 weeks(apparently), I also have an HX-M mount adapter
Any thoughts on comparing these two cameras?
@@ckrug32 I am looking to sell the X2D just doesn’t fit my flow. Love the M11 but recently got an SL2S
Hello... Can leica M lenses be used on the Hasselblad X2D camera? What adapter should I buy?
I’m leaning Hasselblad. I prefer the 4:3 image ratio and increased image quality.
Of course the smaller M11 with the rangefinder shooting experience is tempting too.
Hello... Can leica M lenses be used on the Hasselblad X2D camera? What adapter should I buy?
Hi, I am not familiar with adapters to the X2d but I am quite sure they made a few for the Leica M to X1d. You might give it a try, any choice you find is your best best. They don't look expensive so maybe it's worth a shot :) 7artisans, Novoflex, K&F concept. cheers
I've tried both. The X2D has a fasgter focusing speed and the new XCD 38V/55V/90V lens. Plus a separate manual/auomatic focus switching ring. Compared to the M11, the experience is much better especially when it comes to street shooting.
I thought so, what about the pics? Are they as stunning as we all imagine? Thanks. Tom
I have m10 with the Leica APO 50 and am now thinking to get the x2d as a 2nd camera although with the 80/1.9 glass. And then I will sell the m10 and get the m11 mono which is amazing and for b&w digital there is nothing that comes close. The m camera, as you mentioned, I can take everywhere. It’s a different process which suits my personal projects and lets me ‚meditate’. It may sound silly, but it’s how I feel when I’m shooting with M. And the hasselblad for color is stunning. Here the M seems almost flat in comparison. The hasselblad is simply magical in this regard. I considered getting the noctilux 75, but the price is similar as the x2d with the 80/1.9. It seems like the decision is easy
having both you are probably covered for whatever needs you might have: compact and lightweight, although still with plenty of resolution and possibilities, or full size and IBIS. Keep me posted if you get it, I was in contact with the company but didn't get my hands on one, yet. thanks
Are you going to the meeting in Dublin this year?
Unfortunately I am not, are you gonna be there?
i HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE. I think the Leica SL-2 with its L mount and 47mp sensor
allows you to auto focus with L mount alliance lenses and use M mount lenses
via adapters including Techart, Leica, Voigtlander, Shoten, Leica, TT Artisan, etc.
The Sl-2 has a 5.7mp evf for perfect manual focus. It also has IBIS. Many zoom lenses
are available.
that is a perfect camera, it can only be better when it gets a BSI sensor in the near future (SL3?)
Considering to sell my Leica S system and by this X2D. This camera is awesome!
Please, let me know if you do it how you are enjoying the switch. It looks like an awesome camera system!
Just found your page and have subscribed! Can I ask how the M11 performs when you're shooting while moving at 60mp without IBIS?
I shoot street and am getting closer to a Leica but as I mainly shoot in London, it's rare that I can go faster than 1/500 while keeping at F8, and I shoot while walking - I'm curious to know if it's possible to get a sharp image at 60mp without IBIS. I saw another video where a guy said you have to shoot a stop faster than with his M10.
On a similar note, if you turn the pixels down to 36, does it help that issue (if it is an issue)?
I also guess a Q3 with IBIS & 60MP can't be too far off now too!
Hi, you can see it this way: even the Q2 (which has the OIS, not IBIS) when you set the stabilization on auto, it kicks in at below 1/60th of a second. Meaning if you have steady hands you won’t need it for faster shutter speed. London (and Vancouver, too) is shady for the most parts due to the tall buildings so I understand what you mean. I go down very often to f/5.6 for street photography to avoid motion blur BUT with the M11 you can help yourself with the ISO; it has a BSI sensor and it will help you avoiding noise / image degradation to a certain extent. Q3 will be a very interesting tool, too, when announced.
To shoot while walking I assume you stop for a second when you press the shutter release, am I right? If so, you won’t have any problem :) Cheers. Tom
@@OneLensOnly thank you, very clear!
Are you facebook Hasselblad group or you saw my comments on other YT video? Because I asked the same thing and I want to know too! But is the X2D too big to use as daily camera if you can only have one? For M if you didnt get the new 0.3m focal distance, you can't shoot even the simple casual food plate photo when you hangout while the X2D able to do many more thibgs right? But is X2D a fun experience camera because it is just like other DSLR / Mirrorless experience right?
Haha, really? I’m in no FB group but people start receiving the camera, in a few days we’ll get full reviews I’m sure. Cheers. Tom
The X2D can function very nicely as an everyday camera. There is exceptional quality with the new XCD 38mm lens or the 55mm lens. The other XCD lenses are compatible as well, although with the manual focus ring in the same manner as the new lenses. The camera is easy to hold one handed, although many might prefer to dangle from the neck or look at other camera strap options. I've used for at least five days out on the street, and for a day at an automotive museum that takes some of their cars out for demonstration runs. I've had the camera and the two new lenses for about two weeks, and the older X1D II for two years, the 907 / CFV and a 500 C/M for about a year. I am very happy with the Hasselblad experience and their Phocus software. The present time, no other software fully supports the camera and new lenses that I know of to date. Sometimes, Lightroom identifies the older lenses. DXO and other software can'e recognize the 907, let alone the X2D. Even MacOS can't display the RAW file from the camera.
just as a curiosity, what file extension do the Hasselblad RAW files have? Thanks. Tom
@@OneLensOnly Out of the camera, it is still 3fr. And when processed in Phocus, "3F" aka fff.
@@KenHutchins thanks
The pixel density in the camera matrix is the same. These cameras are very different. Both in terms of shooting technology and image format. And in size too. Otherwise, they have the same matrix (only the size is a little larger), And about a color, sometimes it’s more beautiful with the Hassel, but with Leica you can achieve a natural color, because you determine the color, not the camera automation
My choice would be the Hasselblad X2D because of the better picture quality. It also has PDAF autofocus and the IBIS image stabilization is better with 5-axis 7-speed stabilization. Hasselblad takes this IMHO.
We can absolutely open the poll! :) Thanks. Tom
If one does street photography - something I could never do - then I would imagine the Leica is better for concealment and discretion - however for regular photography - I am a wedding shooter - I use Hasselblad and have ordered the X2D and three new lenses - previously using the clunky funky Fujifilm GFX100 and three enormous lenses - also flash sync at 125x or below is too compromising - the Hass syncs upto 2000 - one lens? I love the 38mm 2.5 - equiv 24mm in 35mm format. With all that sid I do love the idea of a Leica M
I wish the photographer at my wedding had the Hasselblad :) Jokes aside, I do understand that as a workhorse it's killer. Never had the chance to try it yet but I would pick up that 38mm lens and eventually crop out of it, similarly to what I am doing now with the Q2. Did you get the X2D already or are you still awaiting for it? Thanks for your contribution. Tom
@@OneLensOnly Hey Tom - i had a Q2 and you can crop that within an inch of its life - the Fuji GFX100 can crop 100% and way beyond and is still sharp - my X2D arrives at the end of the month - when the 90mm is finally released- part of the appeal for me is the 1tb internal storage - 100mpx, flash sync at all useable speeds and the identical form factor of al three lenses - same filter thread and aperture and style - I love what you do - may success beat a path to your door - greetings from The Cotswolds - UK
thank you, Sir. Please, keep me posted when your new kit arrives shining so I can share the joy for it. Have a good one. Tom
if you could only choose between 1) Hasselblad X2D 100C or 2) Leica M11 which one would it be?
Good question: probably as a workhorse I'd go with Hasselblad, mainly because it is less limited (AF in primis). For my actual workflow, definitely Leica: more compact, I am more familiar with the system, glasses, it's "wearable" and other non objective reasons :)
When there is a difficult choice, often it is because neither is better than the other but rather they complement each other. If they were free I could not choose either. I would have both. They are nothing like each other. So one would be for basic use the leica, the Hasselblad for larger projects. If money mattered then it would be neither as they are both too expensive for the majority of consumers. The Xh2(s) is vastly more versatile tool for any number of photographic and video tasks.
They are both intriguing, aren’t they :) do you have / ever used the Fuji?
@@OneLensOnly I had the GFX 50s then the 100s with gf23(spends most time on my camera), gf45, gf63(least favourite rendering and focal length), gf110(superb skin rendering), gf45 100(ultra versatile for time saving on production when you don't want to have two bodies with long and wide primes).
@@anthonyrock5039 wow! You know one thing or two about Fuji :) I might be able to try the 50s ii next month, can't wait
@@OneLensOnly if you can, I would rather you experience the 100s. Even if you rent it. Couple this with the GF45mm or the GF23mm if you are into landscape or architecture. If you like portrait work then use the GF 110mm. The two bodies look the same but they are not internally. The 50sii has slower auto focus and less video capability it is not just a resolution difference. gf GF 80mm are OK but not as accurate in focus than the other GF lenses I owned.
@@anthonyrock5039 duly noted, thank you very much!
you are wearing a Leica society cap !!! I think I know where this is going
:) honestly, I wouldn’t know
Sorry but I think you are missing 80% of the point here. Image quality is only very little to do with the resolution itself, but much more about about color science, color depth, dynamic range and overall optics rendering.
All those very relevant aspects you mentioned, sir, are at a high level on both Leica and Hasselblad, that's the starting assumption :)
In my opinion the X2D will never be the camera for all. A camera is just a tool and every job needs its own tools. It will never be a sports- or BIF-camera. So my recommendation: If You only can have one camera for all than look at Canon Nikon Sony Fuji, ...
definitely, there are plenty of valid ones such as the Nikon Z9 that will please sports, wildlife photographers, wedding photographers, mostly anyone as a matter of fact :) but tools are less romantic
Huh.
You just made an argument against Sony, Nikon, and Canon.
@@williaminbody205 I had all of them of course :)
I agree.
For everything I have Sony
But I am looking for more soul in photos... and thinking of leica m11 or hasseblad X2D or 907...
Seriously???
Only an idiot would go for Leica instead of Hasselblad at that price point.
Please do not use the moon as the example. America never went to the moon.
alright, only for you (this is a very good one): cdn.hasselblad.com/f/77891/11656x8741/c8577db671/jianjun-wang-x2d-xcd38-1.jpg
I agree.
Otherwise Elon Mask used the american rocket which was used to take all them to the Moon instead of going to Russia and asking them to sell one to use the technology... as he said in the interview. So there is no rocket in the usa that he could use as prototype for building the rocket to Mars as he intended to do.
So do you believe this earth is flat too?
@@sengjariangrojkul1310 No. I do not believe the earth is flat because the earth is not flat. I believe America never landed humans on the moon because they never landed amyone there.
@@lewislane1143 did this mf just say “well they didn’t and my argument on why they didn’t is because they didn’t!”