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  • @NeonShores
    @NeonShores 9 місяців тому +66

    When it comes to Hasselblad the brain says X2D but heart says 907X.
    Wallet says neither.

    • @IIIM-or1bq
      @IIIM-or1bq 21 день тому +1

      Ahahahaha, spot on.

  • @Renzsu
    @Renzsu 9 місяців тому +17

    One of the things that surprised me was how capable these older Hasselblad lenses still are on modern digital backs. Makes me feel good about picking one up recently (with the purpose of perhaps adding a digital back in a few years).

  • @SavedbybGrace
    @SavedbybGrace 8 місяців тому +4

    Nice balanced review BTW. No bias one way or another, just demonstrating that each unit is a tool fit for a purpose, whatever purpose fits an individual's method. And good advice too. Like everything, don't go beyond your means for material stuff. It's pretty, but not worth any level of stress to acquire. The reason I'm not driving a 911.

  • @smith507
    @smith507 9 місяців тому +5

    Yes! This was the comparison I was looking for when the Hassy was announced; on paper, these two would like to be compared but once in actual use they are different enough so it's great when someone that has access to both pieces does this kind of videos.
    Thanks Benj.

  • @911turbojk
    @911turbojk 9 місяців тому +6

    Oh my god ! thank you so much for doing this video , I really enjoyed the episode ! truly amazing production too ! thank you!

  • @jamie.dop_
    @jamie.dop_ 9 місяців тому +8

    Man this is what I'm talking about!! Great work lads. Both cameras are beautiful and the video was shot very nicely too. Onto the next video! Bring it on. J :)

  • @helloabwatson
    @helloabwatson 23 дні тому +1

    After watching this, I'm very happy I own a Leica M Monochrom, with the 50mm Summilux. Great video, and image samples.

  • @cw7422
    @cw7422 9 місяців тому +1

    I sold my Leica CL and 5 lenses and my Fuji X100V and bought a Leica Q2. I love it.

  • @antonyb
    @antonyb 9 місяців тому +4

    What camera do you use to video yourself?

  • @sanfordlavine1760
    @sanfordlavine1760 9 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful images. I believe you could use any camera and get great results. I’m fortunate to have the resources to own the Leica 11P and the Hasselblad X2D 100C. I use the Leica for travel and the Hasselblad for landscape. They are excellent tools and add to my enjoyment of photography.

  • @lackoliver55
    @lackoliver55 9 місяців тому +4

    Incredible photos as always. Those "product" shots on the stump, dang, beautiful lighting and rendition.

  • @davidatkinson7356
    @davidatkinson7356 3 місяці тому +1

    Remember Sam Haskins quote “People look at your photographs and say you must have a very good camera. They never say that was a good meal you must have a good stove.” Well yes, Sam had a point, but when I got a Leica I realised what the fuss was about. The thought that had gone into it was noticeable because it wasn’t noticeable and the tactile experience of precision engineering was delightful. One day I will fool around with a ‘blad just to test this.

  • @Hafizkamsadi
    @Hafizkamsadi 6 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely beautiful images. Thank you for the comparison - the shots with the Hassy has such amazing texture and depth! Love it! Are the images shown straight RAW or edited? Would love to know the presets used.

  • @DerStiglitz
    @DerStiglitz 3 місяці тому +1

    I am a long time user of various Leica digital cameras and I have loved the 907 hasselblad from the coin of its introduction. I bought a camera body with a 45mm lens two years ago and was incredibly impressed with the picture quality and build of the camera. However, I found it so inconvenient to use in real life that I sold the kit after only a month. I was extremely disappointed. The camera is very uncomfortable and slow. I didn't plan to use autofocus knowing in advance that it doesn't work well. But manual focus on the wires - that doesn't work for me either.
    If I were a collector, I'd put it on a shelf and admire it.

  • @SavedbybGrace
    @SavedbybGrace 8 місяців тому

    Difficult to decide between the M11P & the 907X. Both absolutely stellar!!! I’ve given up!!! Leica in the camera bag & Blad on the way 😊

  • @hunterhart1
    @hunterhart1 9 місяців тому

    8:13 is wild that you caught the leaf shutter engaging as you were taking a photo

  • @contemporaryartist6542
    @contemporaryartist6542 9 місяців тому

    Thank you! Monochrom v Hasselblad probably fairer. Beautiful photographs.

  • @blazerbarrel2
    @blazerbarrel2 3 місяці тому +2

    Hasselblad hands down the best !

  • @kubowich
    @kubowich 9 місяців тому +1

    god damn ! those images make me want to sell all my Leica gear and dive into the Hassy world. Stunning.

  • @hridevarora5836
    @hridevarora5836 9 місяців тому +4

    Well there's fuji x100vi then there's leica q3 why not have hasselblad to produce/create something like it in medium format

    • @lackoliver55
      @lackoliver55 9 місяців тому +1

      There's always the Phase One XC fixed lens 15mm Medium Format camera if you have $63,000 burning a whole in your pocket.

  • @stevenstannard
    @stevenstannard 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this wonderful comparison. I would be curious to know and see how the files from both cameras (raw and jpg) look straight out of camera and if there is a difference in post-processing efforts needed. Might you consider that for a follow-up video?

  • @LensForgotten
    @LensForgotten 6 місяців тому

    Great matchup, long overdue.... Thanks for the video gents. I used to have GFX, but found it too big and bulky. The hassey is better sized.

  • @wisruteb
    @wisruteb 9 місяців тому +1

    Two very different cameras based on my own experience with the 907X 50C and M10R. One will slow you down because it is a slow camera while the other one will be as fast as you can be.
    The 907X series is best when you have time on your side, and your surrounding is relatively calm. Leica M can be more versatile in more situations provide that you have the right skills to zone focus, or a good MF skill.

    • @Hying910
      @Hying910 8 місяців тому

      i think both of them gives u a slow shooting experience.

  • @jamestulk4169
    @jamestulk4169 9 місяців тому +50

    A camera is a tool for making photographs, right? Well, not really. Calling a Leica or Hasselblad a photographic tool is like calling a Porsche a means of transportation or a Rolex an instrument for telling time. Any of these can fulfil a functional role, and do it well, but in the end they are lifestyle accessories. By all means indulge yourself if you have the means, but don’t expect it to transform your life.

    • @Alexframesrj
      @Alexframesrj 9 місяців тому

      Exactly 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @Old-School-Liberal
      @Old-School-Liberal 9 місяців тому +5

      I hate that saying “a camera is just a tool” when you get to Leica and Hasselblad they are instruments like Steinway. Sony,Canon and Nikon etc… are tools. Leica and Hasselblad are like Porsche and other luxury cars. Honda,Toyota and Nissan cars are just transportation.

    • @ol8122
      @ol8122 9 місяців тому +7

      I agree with your last sentiment, but disagree with the idea of these being lifestyle accessories. Absolutely there are hobbyists who have no need for these cameras that buy them mainly due to their design and price tag to suit their perceived image. But a lifestyle accessory is not defined by price to me. I think more can be said so for Hasselblad’s line of digital Medium Format cameras. It all depends on the photographer’s needs for their work. These are tools that help you create something. You can’t really compare them to a Rolex or a Porsche that have no output.

    • @michaelacedeno
      @michaelacedeno 9 місяців тому +4

      Saying a Porsche isn’t a tool just means your not using it as intended since their race cars are very much tools for the drivers in the cockpits.
      If you aren’t at the point where you can understand that they can be tools it’s totally okay but that doesn’t mean they aren’t tools to someone else.

    • @NeilRaja
      @NeilRaja 9 місяців тому +4

      I would disagree, there is a definite quality to both of these systems, from the optics to the menus, they are designed for purpose. Like Ben said, they make you want to pick them up and shoot. I carry my Leica M10 with me everywhere, whereas my Sony sits in a draw until I need it. I have a Hassy 503 and it’s my go to whenever shooting film largely because of how I shoot when using it. Yes they are objects of desire but the usability of them is beautiful.

  • @cinematik9726
    @cinematik9726 9 місяців тому

    I own both but haven’t been able to take the Hassy out yet. Likely selling my M11 and switching to a Q3. It’s beautiful and I enjoy it but I need AF for fast moving NYC streets

  • @314LA
    @314LA 8 місяців тому +1

    I would like to hear your opinion on comparing the colors on the M11 and 907x

    • @felixbrandau4751
      @felixbrandau4751 8 місяців тому

      Same for me

    • @rf8221
      @rf8221 7 місяців тому

      Color approach is very different for both. Hasselblad tries to go for the most natural to the eye, where as Leica goes for a certain "look" or style. I have both so I can make a direct comparison. Leica also for some reason went with a heavy magenta tint for the M11, it doesn't look bad, but it's certainly a look.

    • @314LA
      @314LA 4 місяці тому

      @@rf8221 Yes, I like green on hassell. It's deep color..But sometimes x2d makes its own color, which is very different from the real one. Look at 6:42. M11 is getting closer to reality.

  • @-grey
    @-grey 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful photos and awesome mood.
    Now I feel like I should get into printing so I can justify a Hassleblad. Thanks for this. 😂

  • @antonpaisov
    @antonpaisov 9 місяців тому

    Benj, this is exactly what I was googling today lol (though X2D, but it's too specific), thank you!

    • @antonpaisov
      @antonpaisov 9 місяців тому

      Great video, exactly what I needed.
      I grew up mostly shooting 120 film (my first camera was Pentacon sixTL + Kiev 88 later), and always loved that medium format look, but growing older portability takes priority.
      I currently own film: Fuji GA645i and Leica MP, Leica M2 with 35/2 kob and same summilux 50/1.4 as you have, and in digital it's GFX50ii with 55mm and with Mitakon 65, as well as X100F.
      I find that I really rarely reach out to my digital cameras, but there is a need/desire from time to time, and leaning towards selling my digital Fujies, so thinking of getting some digital Leica body (as the most logical choice), however also considered a digital Hasselblad.
      And before getting MP I was considering just going for 907X + something like 500CX as a complimentary film body, but I realised once again, that from medium format film, Zeiss lenses is simply not what I like (I'm much more of a Mamiya guy).
      Now the dilemma returned, but after watching your video I do think that some kind of digital Leica body is all I need, thank you!

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video.
    I shoot with a Leica M6 35mm film ranagefinder with:
    21mm f/1.4 Summilux
    35mm f/1.4 Zeiss Distagon ZM
    90mm f/2 Summicron
    I also shoot with a Mamiya RB67 medium format film SLR with:
    50mm f/4.5 Mamiya
    90mm f/4.5 Mamiya
    180mm f/4.5 Mamiya
    Your video has inspired me to shoot the two together to compare image quality.

  • @longdoo1
    @longdoo1 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for your words. I don't own the expensive things, too. Will looking to buy one when the price goes down.

  • @tombube49
    @tombube49 2 місяці тому +1

    I got a Hasselblad 500cm from my grandpa. So in want to buy the 907x, although i see that de X2D is the better buy. Hm perhaps I can buy a second hand X1D in addition. The lenses are the most expensive part

    • @ChrisM-yq2pq
      @ChrisM-yq2pq Місяць тому

      That’s what I got x1d. It’s fine

  • @tomislavstanich9379
    @tomislavstanich9379 9 місяців тому

    My assumption is that the sensor size of both camera systems are quite more similar: Medium Format Sensors, compared to the LEICA M.

  • @malcolmmacgregor6222
    @malcolmmacgregor6222 5 місяців тому +1

    I use the Hasselblad X2D which is a much better camera than the 907x, for outdoor photography and landscapes. The main reason being it has a viewfinder, unlike the 907x. The 907x forces the photographer to use the LCD screen for composition and focusing which is suboptimal due to the vagaries of weather such as bright light or rain. So 907x is a non starter for outdoor work. No doubt it is a beautiful camera. The M11 is a great camera but does a different job in my view. My main camera is the X2D and will stick with that. Many thanks for the interesting review and comparisons.

  • @KillerTacos54
    @KillerTacos54 9 місяців тому

    Fantastic video as always

  • @AngelaWardBrown
    @AngelaWardBrown 9 місяців тому

    Loving all these videos. So nice to get concrete information, and see someone using the camera similarly to how I will. Stupid Q - The leather bag in one of the images is a beaut - can I ask where it came from?
    Also, I have ordered the 907x, and am now dithering about lenses while I await release - I am thinking of getting the 45mm 3.5, and the Mitakon you mentioned (I shoot weddings and food, but will have an HC macro to use for food). The 65mm looks beautiful but I not sure my budget will stretch to it .... Thanks!

  • @mahdimanesh4221
    @mahdimanesh4221 9 місяців тому

    Looking forward to your image samples on the digital back on the 500cm. The samples shown here are actually looking quite good to me - not as sharp as with the new V lenses but probably good enough 😊

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому +1

      Stopped down they’re still pretty good!

    • @mahdimanesh4221
      @mahdimanesh4221 9 місяців тому

      @@benjhaischnice! I mean I don’t need clinical sharpness anyways. I just wish they would have a similar raw compressed option to have less data 😅 the 500 series and the digital back seem to be excellent

  • @mistermaroon
    @mistermaroon 9 місяців тому +1

    Loved the comparisons!
    I was distracted by the strap on your Leica. What brand is it and what’s the length of the strap?

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому +1

      benjhais.ch/clever and I’m not sure of the length but I’ll check :)

  • @arylgg
    @arylgg 9 місяців тому

    As an owner of Hasselblad 500 series cameras twice, I kick myself for selling these beautiful cameras and really want a 907c ever since the original special edition yet I haven't made the investment. The original 50mp was exceeded by Sony and 100mp without ibis is guaranteed to show diminished resolution at the slow shutter speeds I like to use. That Sony has lenses now that are world class and bodies that are small, their imaging chain makes images I can't get with either Hasselblad or Leica. I will continue to admire both H and L for making beautiful cameras.

  • @damienphotographe
    @damienphotographe 9 місяців тому

    buy used and you're good, after the -30% price drop 1st year they keep value very well

  • @AlwaysinmyHeartAustralia
    @AlwaysinmyHeartAustralia 9 місяців тому

    Which is better to manual focus with? Also so many camera reviewers on UA-cam and hardly any let you hear a proper shutter sound, or give their opinion on the 'feedback' of firing a frame. Cameras are getting too quiet as a default. I'd love a modern digital camera that has a shutter experience of the old film Olympus OM-1 :)

    • @MKETSHOW117
      @MKETSHOW117 8 місяців тому

      The Leica is manual focus only, so obviously it's best at it.

  • @caneestudio
    @caneestudio 7 місяців тому

    Image quality between both of them?

  • @jeremydanielw
    @jeremydanielw 9 місяців тому +1

    What kind of sticker is that over the Leica logo?!

    • @paulwhm
      @paulwhm 8 місяців тому

      Wanna know too!

  • @cammackey
    @cammackey 9 місяців тому +1

    Benj giving me gas and making me wanna chase waterfalls

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому +4

      Don’t go. Stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to.

  • @felixbrandau4751
    @felixbrandau4751 8 місяців тому

    The photo show is really cool. It’s hard to transport image quality via UA-cam. The hundred percent crop ❤

  • @TheBrotographer
    @TheBrotographer 9 місяців тому

    Is that the M11 or the M11-P? Looks like it said M11 but I see the screw and I'm so confused!

    • @j5daniel182
      @j5daniel182 9 місяців тому

      Same!!! The screw looks bigger than the P tho!

  • @emielkeultjes
    @emielkeultjes 9 місяців тому +4

    I want those on my coffee table as well 😁

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 5 місяців тому

    I’m X2D, M11 and Sony A7RV shooter

  • @tomislavstanich9379
    @tomislavstanich9379 9 місяців тому

    it would be more adequate to compare LEICA S20 or S3 with Hasselblad 907 cfv 100C.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      Those Leicas are far too long in the tooth at this point

  • @theday2learn
    @theday2learn 2 місяці тому

    If you could only have 1 as your do it all camera would you go M11 or the Hasselblad?

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  2 місяці тому +2

      Do it *all*? Probably the Leica if I had to choose. But the Hasselblad’s 16-bit raw files are pretty magical. Tbh though if I’m looking for the most versatility, I’m not choosing either ;)

    • @theday2learn
      @theday2learn 2 місяці тому

      @@benjhaischI currently on a sony A1 and though I love Sony for their ability nail focus and just work in every situation. They tend to get a sterile feeling to them

  • @damienphotographe
    @damienphotographe 9 місяців тому

    the 907X is for me a fancy version of a GFX50s ii at twice the price, same sensor

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому +1

      This one is more comparable to the GFX100II but yes.

    • @j5daniel182
      @j5daniel182 9 місяців тому

      Leaf shutter!!

    • @ChrisM-yq2pq
      @ChrisM-yq2pq Місяць тому +1

      @@j5daniel182nobody understands how amazing leaf shutter is

  • @enshongmiranda
    @enshongmiranda 9 місяців тому

    The Hasselblad is cool but being electronic shutter only is a bit of a bummer.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      Only with non-Hasselblad lenses. None of these were with an electronic shutter

    • @enshongmiranda
      @enshongmiranda 9 місяців тому

      @@benjhaisch Yeah, that's why it's a bit of a bummer because it's a cool form factor to shoot with adapted vintage lenses. If they can also somehow make it a square sensor then by Jesus, take all my money. Haha.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      @@enshongmiranda I’ve done it for an upcoming video. Made a 44x44 sensor… not *ideal* but possible ;)

    • @ChrisM-yq2pq
      @ChrisM-yq2pq Місяць тому

      It’s only electric on non Hassy lenses xcd

  • @scotthenry3904
    @scotthenry3904 9 місяців тому

    The Hasselblad images look much sharper, better micro contrast and less nervous looking out of focus areas.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      They’re wildly sharp. It’s been the most impressive but out of this system so far

  • @j5daniel182
    @j5daniel182 9 місяців тому

    Where did you get that screw-like cover to replace your logo for your m11 ???
    If you only can have one- hassy 907 or the m11 ?
    Caveat- if you choose the m11, you cant use your leica lenses on your other cameras.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      I really don't use Leica lenses on my other cameras. I LOVE the 907X but it's hard to beat the M11 for it's overall versatility.

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      just like if I could only have an M6 or a 500CM, I'd chose an M6. If it was between an X2D and an M11 though... harder choice if that makes sense

    • @j5daniel182
      @j5daniel182 9 місяців тому

      @@benjhaisch haha ive reached a point wjete if my leica m1 and lenses magically turned into an X2D with lthe three F2.5 lenses, overnight ill be happy 😂

  • @josephguo6256
    @josephguo6256 7 місяців тому

    Hassel is always No.1, Alpa 9d no.2, Leica M3 No.3 then, Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Fuji, Panasonic, Sony etc.

    • @314LA
      @314LA 7 місяців тому

      Depends on your preferences. Sports photography (for example) requires Sony, Nikon, Canon, etc.))

  • @fjzingo
    @fjzingo 9 місяців тому

    Hasselblad is handmade in my hometown….damm I should get one…

  • @TheKoeslingsPhotography
    @TheKoeslingsPhotography 9 місяців тому

    Is that a sticker that you put on the Leica M11? It looks like the M11-P but I saw it is the M11!

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому

      👀

    • @shawnj8765
      @shawnj8765 9 місяців тому

      You take off the red dot and put this ''m11p style'' dot on. You can buy it online.

    • @TheKoeslingsPhotography
      @TheKoeslingsPhotography 9 місяців тому

      @@shawnj8765where do you buy them? I searched online and they don't sell them. Do I have to send it to leica?

    • @TheKoeslingsPhotography
      @TheKoeslingsPhotography 9 місяців тому

      @@benjhaischhow did you do it?! 😂

  • @arvidjohansson3120
    @arvidjohansson3120 9 місяців тому

    Would consider one of these cameras in the future. Sadly they don’t have any video features at all. Soo Fuji X100VI it will have to be

    • @Renzsu
      @Renzsu 9 місяців тому

      You can shoot video on the CFVii 50c digital back, not sure about this new one. But why would you want to.. no ibis, it seems like a huge hassle compared to a Fuji GFX.

  • @goldfinch2283
    @goldfinch2283 9 місяців тому +2

    Most of the people that dislike and criticise Leica or Hasselblad have most probably never used one of them. They are mostly “haters” and envious because they cannot afford one.

    • @tor2919
      @tor2919 8 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely. Well the thing to remember when it comes to haters is that they are their own curse. They’ll always be miserable filled with that bitterness that apparently compels them to spew on to everything they don’t understand.

  • @Dan_photo
    @Dan_photo 9 місяців тому

    Is that a blacked out M11?

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch  9 місяців тому +1

      👀

    • @Dan_photo
      @Dan_photo 9 місяців тому

      @@benjhaisch I need more details! Haha

  • @HouseofRen
    @HouseofRen 9 місяців тому

    you have a camera on your face. I say that because I also have a camera on my face. the meta are so small you would nearly completely miss it that its a camera

  • @SamMcGhee
    @SamMcGhee 9 місяців тому

    Get out’a here with this 🤤

  • @jeremiahlee6335
    @jeremiahlee6335 8 місяців тому

    Seems like the main point is you can afford to have both of them.

  • @joãoAlberto-k9x
    @joãoAlberto-k9x 3 місяці тому

    Leica.❤.
    Hasselblad.❤.

  • @Luxmastr
    @Luxmastr 9 місяців тому

    I'm not sure about getting a 907x 50c or a x1dii due to the lack of IBIS and the maximum shutter speed of 1/2000. I've heard that with those big megapixel sensors you are better off doing two or three times the intented shutter speed to get a nice sharp image. I imagine it will be problematic in bright conditions like in the video (snow an sun or sand and sun) if you only have 1/2000 (or 1/4000 with the new 100c) especially if the electrical shutter tends to bend elements in the picture. Whats your experience with limited shutter in bright conditions? Is 1/2000 in the 50c enough to get sharp photos (nature and portraits handheld?) and does the electrical shutter bend even with native lenses? Fyi - Colour Grade looks nice. Are there Presets with that look?

  • @johannesbasuki391
    @johannesbasuki391 7 місяців тому

    I have both Leica system and end of last year I bought Hasselblad X2D and 45P , and really disapointed with the later, I ordered 55, 28P ,38 and 90 V thru the dealer in Aussie, but there is none to deliver, the dealer also cannot promise of when. Finally I only keep the 55V order pay in full and cancel the rest. What is the point of good camera without lenses?? With Leica I can use any old lens or even from 3rd party , so many option.
    I tried to use Summilux 50 with adapter to X2D, the result is SHIT.
    Don't listen to the youtuber , but check the reality in the market.
    I am stuck, selling this used X2D you will loose a lot of money.
    To my opinion the best Leica M digital is up to Leica M10R , period

  • @pirapatjirakarnsiri9761
    @pirapatjirakarnsiri9761 5 місяців тому

    Hasselblad a bit better dynamic range

  • @FerroDuque
    @FerroDuque 8 місяців тому

    Al mismo precio, Hasselblad por supuesto. "Burro grande, ande o no ande"

  • @wayneyang9733
    @wayneyang9733 4 місяці тому

    Leica m11 looks better!

  • @shearcreatif
    @shearcreatif 3 місяці тому

    are you a dentist in real life?

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl 9 місяців тому

    I’m not allowed to watch this 😢

  • @goldenstasgs
    @goldenstasgs 13 днів тому

    Leica 35 mm has severe chromatic aberration on your photos even worse than canon rf 35 mm 1.8 for 400€

  • @klinkhamerphoto
    @klinkhamerphoto 6 місяців тому

    This is an advertisement

  • @connieandstewart
    @connieandstewart 9 місяців тому

    Nah you need a leica, stop lying to them ;)

  • @splootan
    @splootan 9 місяців тому +1

    Shoot film.