From what i can tell Ni is - Change my situation Ne is - Adapt to my situation Si is - Endure this situation Se is - React to this situation. would this be accurate?
@@phillyjam2018 adapting would be changing yourself to better survive. Enduring would be staying the same but pushing through suffering. they are opposites
I like this description;cause it seems so comedically unprofessional of elemental mastery,which is fitting for NTPs since you compare it to their intellect and how unusual they can seem to others
My Ti function is always informing other people strongly because my mindset is *If I'm wrong I want to know I'm wrong, and I want to know it clearly expressed in verbal coherent logic so I will express my information, implicitly challenging the world to explain to me why I'm wrong and until the world convinces me I'm not going to stop informing the world*
@@someoneRando_ it's fair. You haven't seen the whole game and your idea of fairness is warped. I'm not trying to prove it to you, I'm just telling you why you're wrong.
@@someoneRando_ fair is everyone knowing exactly what they were getting into ahead of time. Well, what are you talking about? I don't remember that. I know you don't, so it doesn't feel fair.
33:55 That's a great finding there, C.S. Joseph. And the most dangerous thing about it is that we can convince people for the wrong ideas through logic.
This lecture is so cool, thank you so much! Interestingly that I'm an ESFJ and almost all of my close friends have always been from the same quadra. Probably because we always strive to learn from each other
I'm an INTP with an INTP Dad, an ISFJ mother, and ENTP brother. I've always felt there was much more in common between the 4 of us than with my other two siblings: ENFP sister and ISFP brother.
Duals are your ultimate partner but only once you have reached self mastery. Before you’ve done your shadow work and faced your fears, you’ll trigger each other. Your golden pair is good while you are young and helps you work on your shadow, but you will eventually outgrow each other or hold each other back. It all depends on what stage of life you are in for which pairing is best.
I love how you use D&D and Avatar to categorize the types into MMORPG style archetypes. If I knew anything about game development I would totally make a big old CSJ Four Sides of the Mind video game.
I actually thought the same the first time I saw a CS Joseph video. I actually want to become a game developer and I would gladly participate in a project like this, we just need an starter type to start this project.
ENTP here. Quick question. Based on what you said, I'd assume that if an ENTP developed their ISFJ subconscious first, they'd be at a higher risk of believing in the wrong thing because they're so focused on their duty to current logic that they aren't willing to test it. While those that develop their INTJ shadow first are at a higher risk of believing in nothing because they are so critical of all rational that they don't bother putting their faith into anything. Thoughts?
I love crusaders! I didn’t know the xNTP and xSFJ types were related, but all of my best and longest friendships are with one of these 4. I’m an ENFJ. I love the Ti/Ne of the xNTPs for knowledge and insight. I love the comfort of the Fe/Si. xSFJs can kind of give my Fe hero a break and finally let me chill
My partner showed me your videos. He believes that I'm a INTP, and that my parents are of a ISFJ/ESFJ type relationship. We do have different ideas and faith in the wrong systems while having a self-righteous ego. In worse cases, our home can turn into a war-zone. I was so happy to leave and talk to them less now. P.S. They did try to "protect" me from Harry Potter :/
Such an awesome lecture with so much bitter truth in it. As a Crusader myself I can totally relate - I've frequently had problems with verifying my beliefs. Thanks, Chase.
Ooooh I love this lecture so far. Yes, I can remember as a kid an adult told me that life isn't fair and I responded "that's bc people like YOU make it unfair." I was recently reflecting on the fact that I've always found my INTJ to be very innocent and very moral and that this in large part is due to his pure Fi child, which I am very drawn to (my own morals are a bit lacking/questionable haha). Protecting the innocent and fairness being of utmost importance to this quadra is dead-accurate. I'd never seen my ISFJ mom and my ESFJ grandma go demon mode until their little kids/grandkids were threatened. Animal and child abuse trigger me to a level others often find extreme (offensive even--as I find far too many people would rather not hear the "icky" realities of this world--as if not knowing makes them not true or something) and I rail against these atrocities and always will. Even more minor examples of bullies in the workplace trying to take advantage of newer/milder employees will not be happening on my watch as I find it incredibly distasteful. Very nice lecture. Oh! I just remembered a few months ago we had a work meeting and some people were trying to get extra perks not available to the rest of the team and my ENTP boss got super triggered. My ESFP manager told me after the meeting he thought our boss was nervous and I was like nah dude, he was super pissed but holding it together. People were like why was he so rude in the meeting? Duh, you guys--people were trying to make things unfair. One thing I really appreciate about our boss is that he treats everyone equal bc in his mind (and in mine)--they are. He's all about meritocracy; which is just fantastic (for me; some of the other people literally hate him). These are the same people who stand around socializing instead of doing their work or coasting by on other people's efforts. Oh fuck yeah, all those fad diets that I tried bc I read a book and/or did shoddy research and thought it was going to make me live forever/cure all my health problems. Sigh
Haha interesting hypothesis except....I didn't have a cozy upbringing. There's clearly a lot of info I didn't provide--my SFJs trashed harmonious social and family relationships (which are everything to these types) in order to do the actual right thing by vulnerable people in their care--and far too many people are unwilling to do so, imo. I'm actually very curious to understand how a "cozy upbringing" causes one to care about human and animal atrocities, sentient beings suffering, and about abuses of power--the only things humans SHOULD care about. As in, we're so cozy that now we can afford to care about someone besides ourself? I don't find that to be how people actually behave bc unfortunately, the world would be a lot less fucked up if it were. Do feel free to elaborate on this idea.
If you're Alpha Quadra then: Open your mind to NEW systems and opinions Reverify everything with new information income Direct your critisism on improving others without losing them (learn how to not be an asshole 24/7) And of course it concerns not only Alpha Quadra, but that's the most important especially for them
Watching this rn and I have to say you are so right about ENTP and INFJ are here to teach each other. My bf is an ENTP and I’m an INFJ and he taught me A LOT especially to be more forgiving and loving someone for their flaws and I teach him just overall to be a better person.
When you mentioned the hypocrisy of two alpha quadra types arguing with each other I was reminded of that meme of a blonde woman yelling at a white cat.
You're the only preacher I've shouted "yes!" to while pacing back and forth and nodding so hard😀 (INTP female here) . Thank you, Joseph. I will try not to be hypocritical no more!
Omg u nailed it, from childhood I've had a hard time accepting reality and being happy in it. I really don't know how to be truly content in this world. Thank you so much for this lecture, extremely eye opening, motivating and useful for me.
Thank you for all the content you put out. I appreciate how it's not sugar-coated. This particular video reminded me of a quote from the video game Destiny: 'Embrace the chaos of battle and victory is yours'
As an INTJ with low memory recall, seeing your ability to recall knowledge that you have read/studied is admirable. What would be the equivalent of an INTJ using their Se?
This is eerily accurate. Being an INTP living with a ESFJ mom and an ISFJ sister can be hard sometimes, there's always a conflict every once in a while.
@@pkk1652 that makes three of us. I love my mother like nothing else in the world, just like she loves me, but sometimes she's just too much to handle. Exactly a few minutes ago, in fact, she fucking explained to me that there's an app (strike one) to make money quickly with the stock market (strike two) that she saw on the internet (strike three for the "oh god don't fucking do this, it's a bad idea" bingo or whatever it is, i'm not good at sports). I love her but damn, my life would be way easier if only she had a higher Ti.
Yes sometimes as an INTP I think I would be tyrant and this is hypocrisy as you said. That's why sometimes I think I don't want to fight a tyrant after putting myself in his shoes. The Quran mentioned a tyrant many times. despite that I have a sort of a strange sympathy towards him and he was that person who had been torturing the people of Moses peace be upon him and eventually drowned and assigned be tortured. To be honest this is why I tend to not give enough attention and suck to wealthy people and people of authority. Actually sometimes I feel sympathy towards those in the higher positions and I would like to just give them sufficient chances. I don't prefer to have that secure position in which I might transgress and hurt others without being reminded. Everything needs balance every movement, every march, every decision, and every say.
Oh man, can't wait to make that deep dive into the human psyche!^^ I already watched all your "Who are the ..." and "What is the virtue and vice of ..." videos, read all books of Kevin Mitnick and started reading Robert Green. I only had good experiences with your teachings so far (except for telling an ESTP about it) and it is so incredibly usefull. Please keep up the good work and pump out those kinds of videos like a shotgun!
9:00 "where faith and truth combine to create justice" 10:40 protecting and coming to the aid of the innocents. Fi user seem more innocents than Fe users. 13:00 hard time accepting to be happy 14:45 SFJs earthbenders, trying to be the immovable objects 15:15 NTPs are waterbenders. Can become as cold and had as ice. 16:50 covert contract the most 17:45 Robert A. Glover = ENTP 18:20 indirect = yin, redirect people's force back at them (Bruce Lee) 19:20 put their faith into a system. Justice is a system. 21:45 conflict on definitions of justice etc 25:20 the icy sword of truth is causing their opponent to slow down and realize they shouldn't be so ignorant. 30:40 Hitler became a tyrant even though he was against tyranny. 31:30 icy sword does permanent damage 36:00 sometimes the INTP doesn't put their faith in anything. But you need faith in order to persevere. 37:30 can backstab people for the sake of justice. 41:00 need to have critical thinking toward everything so they don't put their faith into the wrong thing.
Do you compare (hmm, is this the right word) Ne with 'yin' (ie dark) because it is the function that 'explores outwards' and which, like any exploration of this kind, takes place into 'chaos' (which by the way is symbolized by the feminine)?
Si is all about survival. It is literally your survival instincts and is related to homeostasis, procreation, fight, flight, freeze response, and using the past to protect you from future danger. Se is the other side of the Si instincts where it takes those internal stimuli and it takes action. It finds and seeks out food, it finds and seeks out shelter, it finds and seeks out friends, it finds and seeks out information, it finds and seeks out mates.
Every time i hear the Alpha Quadra is the best at persevering i always think how Repunzel from tangled (which i think is a ESFJ) was trapped in a tower for so long and how she always for 18 years.
I'm wondering if any other INTP's found some parts of this video inaccurate? Esp. the part about falling prey to, & having fate in institutions & systems? I think that is the opposite of what we do. We are always questioning everything & making sure these systems & beliefs hold up to a sound logical framework. That's why we are often misunderstood & hated because we challenge current dogma. So that part had me really confused. As well as the part about betraying loved ones for justice & the means to an end logic....Is it just me?
Sarah Campbell I don’t want to be mean but I liked chase when I first got into cognitive functions and type. He was great for quickly learning the basics. But the more you learn and comprehend the theory, the more you realize chase’s erroneous application of the theory. Do you watch Meghan levota, or Eric Thor? Or Talking with famous people? There are channels with much better accuracy in explaining type.
Interesting that you said that alpha quadra are all about protecting and coming to the aid of the innocent, valued even to the extent of being sexually attracted to adults who maintain their innocence such as Fi users. Even as a young child I was like this. I remember I was always playacting (alone by myself) at saving the vulnerable handsome prince as a young child. My SFP sister was all into muscly footballers and rockers and thought I went for "weedy" guys. But I now know what this was all about. I always knew I liked really sensitive guys, especially lyricists, singers, etc. who spill their hearts and feelings.
I just realised I made myself sound bi. I'm 100% per cent romantically attracted to males. And selective at that. I was just quoting Chase when I said adults. Oh the joys of making yourself misunderstood online. 😣
And I've always believed I was the font of all wisdom and knowledge (INTP).. not anymore after this lecture.. brilliant, and absolutely correct... rubbish input = rubbish output (though due to Ti, logically consistent, rubbish) ;]
This pretty much describes my arrogant , lazy and stuck in his comfort zone ENTP brother . I tried to help him but he didn't want his ideas to be challenged so we ended up fighting and I door slammed him into oblivion anyways the production value of your videos is getting better video after video , nice job!
I've learnt in my short life that if they don't listen to you, make a habbit out of pointing where they were incorrect at every silent minute with a face that has no emotion then leave. The truth defends itself and doesn't need a loud preacher -my infp nut brain
What you said in the end was very true for me until my early 20´s, i blindly believed the political and religious systems i grew up with and even arrogantly thought that i´m open minded and willing to listen and debate, while the truth was that i only liked to show them that i´m right (i´m ESFJ) It only changed when the systems i was so loyal to turned against me the moment i needed it to support me with something that it didn´t see as mainstream, i was hurt and betrayed but it opened my mind to the fact that my ideas need to be challenged in order to prevent me from falling into the wrong beliefs Everything you said was very true for me, except the part about selling my own kids, my son can commit any crime he wants and i will still protect him, and also other family member and good friends, morality is not my first priority when it comes to the people i love Thank you for the lecture! i really enjoyed listening to it
After 32:28 weaknesses part is very important!! After watching your cognitive functions video series and learning about Dr. John Bebe's cognitive functions attitudes theory when I started to type people and understand them specially how my own type functions based on cognitive functions , I always felt lke that your cognitive functions explanations are limiting to a certain content and not covers the whole picture even though your explanations were pretty consistent and systematic and type explanations are not the full depth picture. As a example when you told that Ti is the truth based on True False logical analysis in first video series, you didn't tell how also inaccurate data and information can damage the truth of Ti and even cause to create a lot of wrong illogical believes after analysing subjectively if they put their belief into a wrong system. I always felt that before because since I was a child I had those types of subjectively analysed illogical believes because I was so immatured and I used to put my belief into wrong sources of data and information and I even analysed a lot of pessimistic potential possibilities shown through Ne and created dozens of illogical may be even exteme believes sometimes. Now I can apply directly these knowledge to decode wrong illogical believes ,frameworks about how the world works that I used to think after true false analysis of wrong inputs. You are right man !! Don't care about the hate comments, this kind of criticism is great. 😆👌
37:20 wow I really feel the diffrence between crusader and infps... that kind of pushing really isn't how I live it's kinda amazing to hear it happens! :o
Lol. I remember my mom telling me that the world is unfair when I was a child and me immediately snapping back with "The world is fair. People make it unfair."
I am an INTP that was married to an unfaithful ISFJ for 20 years. As a Christian I was hoping for God to restore my marriage. One of the ways I grew was in trying to give space for a change I had to strip the idea of covert contracts from my mind knowing I was not going to get what I deserved and had to do the right things because they were right and expect to reap what I sowed from God and not the other person; that life is fair, but I might not be able to follow the math.
At first when you said that this quadra is all about fairness I disagreed.My mother is an isfj and growing up she treated me very differently from my istp brother (im infp). My parents endowed my brother with more privileges growing up and saw him as responsible. My mom always looked at me in a different light and it was hard for her to put trust in me, part of that was my fault and part of it was hers. So I was confused how my mom could see fairness in treating her children very differently but it is because of how different of people me and my brother are. My mom didnt base her judgments off of "I let one kid do this so its only fair to let the other one" she decided what was fair based upon us as individuals and how she remembers us through her Si. When I was younger I absolutely hated that my mom didnt judge me in the present and would bring up things I did 4+ years ago to prove to me why I was still irresponsible, but because my brother had this perfectly clean slate my mom saw him as super responsible. It ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy and my mom pushed me in my early teenage years to do everything I could to break her limits she put on me.
loved the aquarius (fixed air sign) reference for NTPs. I have had a long-standing hypothesis that moon in aquarius is basically the INTP, based on multiple cases I came across, and also the descriptions match up. There should be a study mapping these types to the astrological moon signs which shows the type of the mind (psyche)
@@mathemagicalmonk2084 Im a Taurus some of the charicteristics match some dont but it basically describes a sensor, Si dom (Im ENTP). I could ignore all of the stuff that doesn't match me. Thats called confirmation bias. But if i actually look at how accurate it is. MInimal. Besides what correlation would the relative position of stars have with the personality of certain people born into months that we invented and assigned to constellations. Why do we need this explaination when we can already explain personality through genetic and envirmental factors.
@Mathemagicalmonk I personally think it's a natal chart combination that correlates (as opposed to just one placement - Leo Moon ENTP here, 2x Gemini 1H and an abundance of Pisces placements) - but I tend to "sense" this better than I'm able to explain in words. Would be good to chat to someone who is also noticing patterns.
I was talking to my ESFJ brother about the icy sword and he admitted that he said it very bitter whenever he wanted to tell the truth. He asked me the solution how to not use icy sword? (he found fire sword more interesting) Btw he is affilative and probably it's hard for him.
These are my thoughts for pertaining to all in my Quadra, if there is an error, show me!: I am a Crusader, therefore I must put my faith in the right thing. I must put my faith in Reason, for Reason constitutes understanding the order of things. Reason dictates that faith should only refer to a strong allegiance and not to a disposition without evidence, as evidence is the best indication of truth; the pursuit of which underlies all reason. Therefore science is the best way of applying reason to the universe around us, as science entails the rigorous scrutiny of evidence in pursuit of what is most likely true. Therefore it is best to place your faith (faith being strong allegiance) in that for which there is evidence. Otherwise you commit an injustice to yourself and others for not being able to evaluate and understand the fabric of nature, of which you, everything, and everyone are a part; If you are disharmonious with the universe, you cannot make it a just place to inhabit. - INTP
Just remember you can't personally scrutinise ALL the evidence, and so at some point you are putting faith in people to be as rigorous as is necessary, without evidence that they are.
Jessie I am willing to tentatively accept the findings of science as our best approximation of existential reality. I don’t think it’s reasonable to call that faith, which can be maintained in spite of evidence to the contrary. How many people still don’t accept Evolutionary Theory in spite of the evidence? How many people still believe in a God despite no evidence at all? I am willing to hypothesize that the above problems are overwhelmingly faith oriented in nature. Which is to say evidence independent of belief; which is not how I intend to operate. I am skeptical meaning my beliefs will change should the evidence change, i’m not pretending to know things that I do not know or make declarative statements about the universe just because it makes me feel good.
I believe faith is a great tool not a simple decoration. So i have faith in the unknown and faith in the known of whom i have convicted myself to become a pure seeker of truth. My faith carries me onward evidence is also simply useful as stepping stones. You will get arrogant if your faith is so brittle and shortsighted as evidence, it needs to break. At the end evidence is also a set of subjective measurments destined to decompose and that doesn't sound like the attributes of Truth to me. Put your Faith directly in Truth science is a tool. Not perfect by a longshot. One of many to come i wouldn't put my faith in Humanity but in what is eternally there in lies truth. INTP in crime here
I once wondered why if I do wrong, I don't beg for forgiveness. I'm not arrogant. I am honest with myself. Is this because I was built for an alpha quadra? I am waiting for justice to judge my behavior.
Uhm...Your description of the Alpha quadra as "Crusaders" sounds more in keeping with Beta quadra, which is focused around the combination of prescriptive "Laws" (Ti) and "Force" (Se). Alpha quadra prioritizes descriptive Ti "Laws" in tandem with Ne "Ideas".
@@CSJoseph What are you basing this on? No offense, but it sounds like you're just making up your own tabletop RPG that happens to borrow some terminology from Socionics.
Kimani White That’s exactly what he is doing. That’s why he cannot give you any sources for his arbitrary taxonomy. You just have to take his theories with a grain a salt. Chew the meat, spit the bones. 50% of his work is pretty much made up. The rest is of pretty good value.
I can verify all the information he is talking about, I’m an intp and my recent relationship ended very badly, my partner was an esfj and we never tried to understand each other it was more about battling about what is right and feelings and a lot of the time it was interrelationship battles that ended the whole thing. We are both ignorant and this video kicked me in the ass and slapped me in the face
Haha this is how I really depend to say that someone with this quadra is able to stop the stupidity while theyre thinking about it. The typically picture moment for me when Theres a musically background clip when they gon be ringing at they elderly house and it‘s all questionable till its -„o-kay“
@35:50 - 35:57 My writings for the past year or more has been about the concept of nothing and attempting to pull everything from it... "The Collapse into Nothing", "The Nihilist", "The Nile", "The Flow of Nihil". I can barely believe you said that. On top of that you speak of water and my metaphor around the concept of nothing has been the flow of nothing or the Nile river in Egypt. Nile - Nihilism. Crazy, absolutely crazy. I have been essentially attempting to build my own belief system out of nothing.
This is so confusing, how can I know if I am an INTJ or an ENTP who is INTJ focused ?Its hard to believe in something and then you realise that it might not be true.
Hmmm... I am an ENTP, my best friends are INTP and ESFJ, my copartner in the company were ESFJ, and my longest relationship was with other ENTP... I love templars in my life, too. Otherwise, great video!
Whoa...INTP here...my mother nicknamed me Dragon Mouth and later in life my handle/avatar became BlueFlame! I’ve had to burn it all down and reset many times...be a true scientist and always test, research verify...then continually be willing to do it all over again. It’s not logical to trust your ego or someone else’s!
Just watched your video a 2nd time and noticed that you mention Bruce Lee is a crusader type. Don't suppose you have any other videos breaking down Bruce Lee's personality? I assumed he would have had Se in his ego because of his advanced physical abilities and precision. Although I guess Si is very good for endurance so could also be beneficial for someone who wanted to master martial arts.
Do you have any idea why is it so hard for me to put my thoughts into words? Is this a Ti thing? When i am supposed to be wordy, so i should have all the words available to describe my thoughts yet its hard, like, i just know in my mind, but cant put it into words.
Very true. As an INTP I often times work with an ISFJ and ESFJ who are best friends. We constantly disagree on the best way to do things. They end up teaming up and trying to get the boss to change the situation while I remain completely apathetic. I’ve heard them tell each other that they hate working on those days when it’s just us three. It’s a difficult obstacle but I rationalize it as agreeing to disagree.
Who are the Alpha Quadra? They are those fantastic human beings I admire and melt all over with. They are those whom I'd go to the edge of the Earth with, trust unquestionably, follow their advice, heed their word and fear their judgement/disappointment the most. I'd die for my ESFJ sister, follow every book/film recommendation of INTP friend, absorb every word of my ESFJ work mentor and completely go out of my mind with that enticing ENTP I had a hopeless crush with last year. I do not know how I can possibly give back on every single good thing you've done for me guys, so PLEASE just ask and I'll move the mountains for you - if only you ever ask. Forever yours, your loving INTJ
Epiphany: I was telling my INTJ awhile back how my ESFJ grandma is similar to me in that she's always for the underdog. Now I get it. Haha and I was always her favorite bc socially I AM the underdog.
i dont know if im right or not but the most common problem with intps is critical thinking to the point that you dont start or do anything! pls make it clear sir
46 years of observations consistently show these types together as friends and or married partners as predominantly choleric people the esfj isfj are attracted to predominantly phlegmatic people INTP entp Isfj is melancholy dominant but choleric secondary Entp is sanguine dominant and phlegmatic secondary
I find that I have this insatiable paranoia from stressful situations and from anticipating a blowout fight with someone. Is there a reason for that involving this quadra specifically and what do you suggest one does to learn to fix that?
In the Enneagram the ENTPs most common tritype is 783, the most masculine of all tritypes, shared by ESTPs. The INTPs most common tritype is 594 the most effeminate tritype. This explains why my ENTP brother was a star high school QB while as an INTP I cheered him on from the library.
Is there a video or a blog post which explains all the archetypes? Ardent, Rogue, etc.? I'm very interested what is the meaning or the essence of each.
and two painters is cool! It's the same as two dancers! One doesn't fully rely on the other they both know what they're doing with themselves and what the other does and it creates this vibe of amazing energy between the two, the closer the dancers, the more energy you notice. And the more they're conscious of what they're pulling as a duo, as a shared experience, the more it seems syncronized and just magical but then, depending on their gratitude levels they'd either be happy or expect more next time because they didn't get to experience the other dancer's view as much as they wanted or something. I seem kinda too optimistic about the whole Se-Se matching and Si-Si match too but that's because I feel like you're creating a new obstacle for humans, anyone can learn to appreciate anyone. Don't use the truth card because it's becoming a secebo effect for a perfectly good thing. True, there are some hardships with same functions encounters but instead of preaching looking for a better match and "not recommending" going in any relationship for a simple thing, I find it better to appreciate that camaradery exists and that people should learn how to use it I know your Te critic is screaming "Why do you want another hardship when more compatible partners can literary make you a better person whereas conflict will arise with those least compatible matches!? I swear these people can't be smart for a SECOND in their lives" that's your opinion and my Te is perfectly fine with it, however Fi is just not digesting this AT ALL have a good day! :)
wow according to you I'm very very Alpha quadra. Focus on fairness, innocence, truth, I thought those first two were Fi. I've been confused of whether I was INTP or INFP in MBTI, all descriptions of Fi and Ti I could relate, though in Socionics I had known that I was INTP/INTj/LII.
Lol is Siri in alpha quadra? At least sounds like a dependable Si user. Come to think of it, Siri is pretty Si/Ne - all about loyalty and providing options in an attempt to satisfy the user's desires.
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From what i can tell
Ni is - Change my situation
Ne is - Adapt to my situation
Si is - Endure this situation
Se is - React to this situation.
would this be accurate?
absolutely
Are they not perceiving functions therefore about gathering/processing information?
Like
Ni - process metaphysical info
Ne - gather metaphysical info
Si - process physical info
Se - gather physical info
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Wouldn't adapting and enduring kinda be the same thing? Or kinda similar to changing ur situation?
@@phillyjam2018 adapting would be changing yourself to better survive. Enduring would be staying the same but pushing through suffering. they are opposites
My entire family is in this quadra
No wonder why we are always fighting
This made me bust out laughing
NTPs, The Mud Benders
I like this description;cause it seems so comedically unprofessional of elemental mastery,which is fitting for NTPs since you compare it to their intellect and how unusual they can seem to others
like the ones from ATLA😭
My Ti function is always informing other people strongly because my mindset is *If I'm wrong I want to know I'm wrong, and I want to know it clearly expressed in verbal coherent logic so I will express my information, implicitly challenging the world to explain to me why I'm wrong and until the world convinces me I'm not going to stop informing the world*
What's your type
@@smallworld5769 uP
@@smallworld5769i act the same as OP and i am an intp
Is it just my setting or can you hear Chase's recent videos really low, even having sound on full?
its low yes
@@CSJoseph still great lecture as always ;)
Every few minutes, I hear my speakers blast, "HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR BLOOD FLOW?" Of course, that gets me thinking about my blood flow.
Yes, the Masterclass ads kept blasting out at me at full volume and I had to turn them down. 🤯
@@markrittman2437 Yeah, it starts blasting something about how Bloomberg promises to destroy the country if we can just get Trump out of the way.
If life isn't fair for anyone, than life is actually fair.
Life is unfair, but different people experience more or less unfairness. So no. It isn't fair.
@@someoneRando_ it's fair. You haven't seen the whole game and your idea of fairness is warped. I'm not trying to prove it to you, I'm just telling you why you're wrong.
@@theyetti90 I really don't know what game you refer to. You have children dying in wars. I won't call that fair. How do you define fair?
@@someoneRando_ fair is everyone knowing exactly what they were getting into ahead of time.
Well, what are you talking about? I don't remember that.
I know you don't, so it doesn't feel fair.
@@theyetti90 Under that definition, life is unfair. It's impossible to guarantee everyone knows what's coming before it happens
33:55
That's a great finding there, C.S. Joseph.
And the most dangerous thing about it is that we can convince people for the wrong ideas through logic.
I particularly like your temperament in this video.
Can't wait for the other three episodes. This series will be a hit
Shreyas
What does that mean?
@@danielfisher898 he was calmer, grounded and seemed more humble than usual
This lecture is so cool, thank you so much! Interestingly that I'm an ESFJ and almost all of my close friends have always been from the same quadra. Probably because we always strive to learn from each other
Camaraderie is great
I'm an INTP with an INTP Dad, an ISFJ mother, and ENTP brother. I've always felt there was much more in common between the 4 of us than with my other two siblings: ENFP sister and ISFP brother.
Duals are your ultimate partner but only once you have reached self mastery. Before you’ve done your shadow work and faced your fears, you’ll trigger each other. Your golden pair is good while you are young and helps you work on your shadow, but you will eventually outgrow each other or hold each other back. It all depends on what stage of life you are in for which pairing is best.
The term "alpha male" definately does not come from the naming of this quadra.
true
@@peterwiggett8197 :(
Alpha quadra my favorite tho. Alpha quadra is similiar to youtube channels smosh and funhaus. - Gamma
Lool, yes I was going to be flattered with this title but turns out it's not really what it seems lol.
Jared Vaughan 😂😂😂
You wanted to pass by and say you have the best personality types channel. And I've seen most of them, during more than 5 years. Cheers!
thanks bro, I wish more saw it that way.
@@CSJoseph You definitely do. Thanks for not hiding the ball and being direct.
@@jean-luckreitner5389 i would call that sincerity.
@@CSJoseph I agree that you have the best content. I love how ruthless and truthful you deliver your message.
I love how you use D&D and Avatar to categorize the types into MMORPG style archetypes. If I knew anything about game development I would totally make a big old CSJ Four Sides of the Mind video game.
I actually thought the same the first time I saw a CS Joseph video. I actually want to become a game developer and I would gladly participate in a project like this, we just need an starter type to start this project.
@@lwyz8a Well I (entp) have experience with board game design, so I might be useful in such a project. (aka, I'm up for considering joining in.)
Such an amazing idea lol
I like this idea, going to school for video game design too so I might try to make this a reality 🤔
Make a text based game (is easy)… just need to learn php.
ENTP here. Quick question. Based on what you said, I'd assume that if an ENTP developed their ISFJ subconscious first, they'd be at a higher risk of believing in the wrong thing because they're so focused on their duty to current logic that they aren't willing to test it. While those that develop their INTJ shadow first are at a higher risk of believing in nothing because they are so critical of all rational that they don't bother putting their faith into anything. Thoughts?
Yep
I love crusaders! I didn’t know the xNTP and xSFJ types were related, but all of my best and longest friendships are with one of these 4. I’m an ENFJ. I love the Ti/Ne of the xNTPs for knowledge and insight. I love the comfort of the Fe/Si. xSFJs can kind of give my Fe hero a break and finally let me chill
My partner showed me your videos. He believes that I'm a INTP, and that my parents are of a ISFJ/ESFJ type relationship. We do have different ideas and faith in the wrong systems while having a self-righteous ego. In worse cases, our home can turn into a war-zone. I was so happy to leave and talk to them less now.
P.S. They did try to "protect" me from Harry Potter :/
It's not a C.S Joseph video until he rants about someone's stupidity 😆
Such an awesome lecture with so much bitter truth in it. As a Crusader myself I can totally relate - I've frequently had problems with verifying my beliefs. Thanks, Chase.
Ooooh I love this lecture so far. Yes, I can remember as a kid an adult told me that life isn't fair and I responded "that's bc people like YOU make it unfair." I was recently reflecting on the fact that I've always found my INTJ to be very innocent and very moral and that this in large part is due to his pure Fi child, which I am very drawn to (my own morals are a bit lacking/questionable haha). Protecting the innocent and fairness being of utmost importance to this quadra is dead-accurate. I'd never seen my ISFJ mom and my ESFJ grandma go demon mode until their little kids/grandkids were threatened. Animal and child abuse trigger me to a level others often find extreme (offensive even--as I find far too many people would rather not hear the "icky" realities of this world--as if not knowing makes them not true or something) and I rail against these atrocities and always will. Even more minor examples of bullies in the workplace trying to take advantage of newer/milder employees will not be happening on my watch as I find it incredibly distasteful. Very nice lecture. Oh! I just remembered a few months ago we had a work meeting and some people were trying to get extra perks not available to the rest of the team and my ENTP boss got super triggered. My ESFP manager told me after the meeting he thought our boss was nervous and I was like nah dude, he was super pissed but holding it together. People were like why was he so rude in the meeting? Duh, you guys--people were trying to make things unfair. One thing I really appreciate about our boss is that he treats everyone equal bc in his mind (and in mine)--they are. He's all about meritocracy; which is just fantastic (for me; some of the other people literally hate him). These are the same people who stand around socializing instead of doing their work or coasting by on other people's efforts. Oh fuck yeah, all those fad diets that I tried bc I read a book and/or did shoddy research and thought it was going to make me live forever/cure all my health problems. Sigh
@CescaKhan L I'm an INTP. I'm looking forward to the rest of these lectures.
Haha interesting hypothesis except....I didn't have a cozy upbringing. There's clearly a lot of info I didn't provide--my SFJs trashed harmonious social and family relationships (which are everything to these types) in order to do the actual right thing by vulnerable people in their care--and far too many people are unwilling to do so, imo. I'm actually very curious to understand how a "cozy upbringing" causes one to care about human and animal atrocities, sentient beings suffering, and about abuses of power--the only things humans SHOULD care about. As in, we're so cozy that now we can afford to care about someone besides ourself? I don't find that to be how people actually behave bc unfortunately, the world would be a lot less fucked up if it were. Do feel free to elaborate on this idea.
How does it feel to work under a boss who has the same Quadra as you?
"ISFJ can endure the most, ENTP with aspirational Si can endure as much if not more" :D
Depends but they have the potential
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Wouldn't Si endurance drain ENTPs kinda like how Fe drains INTPs?
If you're Alpha Quadra then:
Open your mind
to NEW systems and opinions
Reverify everything with new information income
Direct your critisism on improving others without losing them (learn how to not be an asshole 24/7)
And of course it concerns not only Alpha Quadra, but that's the most important especially for them
Watching this rn and I have to say you are so right about ENTP and INFJ are here to teach each other. My bf is an ENTP and I’m an INFJ and he taught me A LOT especially to be more forgiving and loving someone for their flaws and I teach him just overall to be a better person.
When you mentioned the hypocrisy of two alpha quadra types arguing with each other I was reminded of that meme of a blonde woman yelling at a white cat.
Any one else think the alpha quadra was NFJ/STP?
yeah if you think about the colloquial use of alpha ntp/sfj peeps are anything but that
When are you going to do other quadras? I can’t wait!
soon :)
You're the only preacher I've shouted "yes!" to while pacing back and forth and nodding so hard😀 (INTP female here) . Thank you, Joseph. I will try not to be hypocritical no more!
This quadra method using cognitive axis is the most natural for me to use to type!! I was using it to type. I now got a name for it!
I feel like crusaders tend to accept people as who they are the most compared to other quadra. Wdyt?
Omg u nailed it, from childhood I've had a hard time accepting reality and being happy in it. I really don't know how to be truly content in this world.
Thank you so much for this lecture, extremely eye opening, motivating and useful for me.
I feel like I am, or need to be, in a crisis. I look around for what's wrong, when everything seems perfect.
Fantastic video here
Thank you for all the content you put out. I appreciate how it's not sugar-coated.
This particular video reminded me of a quote from the video game Destiny: 'Embrace the chaos of battle and victory is yours'
As an INTJ with low memory recall, seeing your ability to recall knowledge that you have read/studied is admirable. What would be the equivalent of an INTJ using their Se?
observing the recall? yes but only in that context
This is eerily accurate. Being an INTP living with a ESFJ mom and an ISFJ sister can be hard sometimes, there's always a conflict every once in a while.
Feel you, also INTP, have ESFJ mother. It's hell...
Time for a fucking crusade then.
@@pkk1652 that makes three of us. I love my mother like nothing else in the world, just like she loves me, but sometimes she's just too much to handle. Exactly a few minutes ago, in fact, she fucking explained to me that there's an app (strike one) to make money quickly with the stock market (strike two) that she saw on the internet (strike three for the "oh god don't fucking do this, it's a bad idea" bingo or whatever it is, i'm not good at sports). I love her but damn, my life would be way easier if only she had a higher Ti.
Finally, a public extension of the csj theory. Thank you. Hope you will keep it up. :)
Yes sometimes as an INTP I think I would be tyrant and this is hypocrisy as you said. That's why sometimes I think I don't want to fight a tyrant after putting myself in his shoes. The Quran mentioned a tyrant many times. despite that I have a sort of a strange sympathy towards him and he was that person who had been torturing the people of Moses peace be upon him and eventually drowned and assigned be tortured. To be honest this is why I tend to not give enough attention and suck to wealthy people and people of authority. Actually sometimes I feel sympathy towards those in the higher positions and I would like to just give them sufficient chances. I don't prefer to have that secure position in which I might transgress and hurt others without being reminded. Everything needs balance every movement, every march, every decision, and every say.
Oh man, can't wait to make that deep dive into the human psyche!^^ I already watched all your "Who are the ..." and "What is the virtue and vice of ..." videos, read all books of Kevin Mitnick and started reading Robert Green. I only had good experiences with your teachings so far (except for telling an ESTP about it) and it is so incredibly usefull. Please keep up the good work and pump out those kinds of videos like a shotgun!
9:00 "where faith and truth combine to create justice"
10:40 protecting and coming to the aid of the innocents. Fi user seem more innocents than Fe users.
13:00 hard time accepting to be happy
14:45 SFJs earthbenders, trying to be the immovable objects
15:15 NTPs are waterbenders. Can become as cold and had as ice.
16:50 covert contract the most
17:45 Robert A. Glover = ENTP
18:20 indirect = yin, redirect people's force back at them (Bruce Lee)
19:20 put their faith into a system. Justice is a system.
21:45 conflict on definitions of justice etc
25:20 the icy sword of truth is causing their opponent to slow down and realize they shouldn't be so ignorant.
30:40 Hitler became a tyrant even though he was against tyranny.
31:30 icy sword does permanent damage
36:00 sometimes the INTP doesn't put their faith in anything. But you need faith in order to persevere.
37:30 can backstab people for the sake of justice.
41:00 need to have critical thinking toward everything so they don't put their faith into the wrong thing.
Do you compare (hmm, is this the right word) Ne with 'yin' (ie dark) because it is the function that 'explores outwards' and which, like any exploration of this kind, takes place into 'chaos' (which by the way is symbolized by the feminine)?
Yes
Si is all about survival. It is literally your survival instincts and is related to homeostasis, procreation, fight, flight, freeze response, and using the past to protect you from future danger. Se is the other side of the Si instincts where it takes those internal stimuli and it takes action. It finds and seeks out food, it finds and seeks out shelter, it finds and seeks out friends, it finds and seeks out information, it finds and seeks out mates.
Every time i hear the Alpha Quadra is the best at persevering i always think how Repunzel from tangled (which i think is a ESFJ) was trapped in a tower for so long and how she always for 18 years.
So chill on this one after going ballistic on the gamma quadrant I see.
I'm wondering if any other INTP's found some parts of this video inaccurate? Esp. the part about falling prey to, & having fate in institutions & systems? I think that is the opposite of what we do. We are always questioning everything & making sure these systems & beliefs hold up to a sound logical framework. That's why we are often misunderstood & hated because we challenge current dogma. So that part had me really confused. As well as the part about betraying loved ones for justice & the means to an end logic....Is it just me?
its the concrete vs. the abstract. NTPs often put their faith into the wrong things. Doesn't have to be a dogma, it can be a system or a software.
@@CSJoseph interesting because I put my faith in no system because I think they're inherently flawed...is that just my apathy?
@@sarahcampbell2498 not even in science?
Sarah Campbell I don’t want to be mean but I liked chase when I first got into cognitive functions and type. He was great for quickly learning the basics. But the more you learn and comprehend the theory, the more you realize chase’s erroneous application of the theory. Do you watch Meghan levota, or Eric Thor? Or Talking with famous people? There are channels with much better accuracy in explaining type.
bam! you had me at "liberty", didn't even have to mention fiat currency or the FDA. I love you, man.
Interesting that you said that alpha quadra are all about protecting and coming to the aid of the innocent, valued even to the extent of being sexually attracted to adults who maintain their innocence such as Fi users. Even as a young child I was like this. I remember I was always playacting (alone by myself) at saving the vulnerable handsome prince as a young child.
My SFP sister was all into muscly footballers and rockers and thought I went for "weedy" guys. But I now know what this was all about. I always knew I liked really sensitive guys, especially lyricists, singers, etc. who spill their hearts and feelings.
I just realised I made myself sound bi. I'm 100% per cent romantically attracted to males. And selective at that. I was just quoting Chase when I said adults. Oh the joys of making yourself misunderstood online. 😣
Your ESFJ?
I think ESFJ and ENTP women are attracted to these guys.
ISFJs and INTPs are attracted to popular guys with high status I think
And I've always believed I was the font of all wisdom and knowledge (INTP).. not anymore after this lecture.. brilliant, and absolutely correct... rubbish input = rubbish output (though due to Ti, logically consistent, rubbish) ;]
This pretty much describes my arrogant , lazy and stuck in his comfort zone ENTP brother . I tried to help him but he didn't want his ideas to be challenged so we ended up fighting and I door slammed him into oblivion
anyways the production value of your videos is getting better video after video , nice job!
Ouch.
I've learnt in my short life that if they don't listen to you, make a habbit out of pointing where they were incorrect at every silent minute with a face that has no emotion then leave. The truth defends itself and doesn't need a loud preacher
-my infp nut brain
Cool to see some new content, I'm pretty excited for the lectures on cognitive focus
I know it's too late now, but I feel like it would be better to have the Crusaders and Templars switch names! Has anyone else brought that up before?
This is an AWESOME lecture, thanks Chase!
Have been looking forward to the Quadras - thank you!
Awesome to see you talk Quadras, Chase. Keep it up big guy!
What you said in the end was very true for me until my early 20´s, i blindly believed the political and religious systems i grew up with and even arrogantly thought that i´m open minded and willing to listen and debate, while the truth was that i only liked to show them that i´m right (i´m ESFJ)
It only changed when the systems i was so loyal to turned against me the moment i needed it to support me with something that it didn´t see as mainstream, i was hurt and betrayed but it opened my mind to the fact that my ideas need to be challenged in order to prevent me from falling into the wrong beliefs
Everything you said was very true for me, except the part about selling my own kids, my son can commit any crime he wants and i will still protect him, and also other family member and good friends, morality is not my first priority when it comes to the people i love
Thank you for the lecture! i really enjoyed listening to it
After 32:28 weaknesses part is very important!!
After watching your cognitive functions video series and learning about Dr. John Bebe's cognitive functions attitudes theory when I started to type people and understand them specially how my own type functions based on cognitive functions , I always felt lke that your cognitive functions explanations are limiting to a certain content and not covers the whole picture even though your explanations were pretty consistent and systematic and type explanations are not the full depth picture.
As a example when you told that Ti is the truth based on True False logical analysis in first video series, you didn't tell how also inaccurate data and information can damage the truth of Ti and even cause to create a lot of wrong illogical believes after analysing subjectively if they put their belief into a wrong system.
I always felt that before because since I was a child I had those types of subjectively analysed illogical believes because I was so immatured and I used to put my belief into wrong sources of data and information and I even analysed a lot of pessimistic potential possibilities shown through Ne and created dozens of illogical may be even exteme believes sometimes.
Now I can apply directly these knowledge to decode wrong illogical believes ,frameworks about how the world works that I used to think after true false analysis of wrong inputs.
You are right man !!
Don't care about the hate comments, this kind of criticism is great. 😆👌
37:20
wow I really feel the diffrence between crusader and infps...
that kind of pushing really isn't how I live it's kinda amazing to hear it happens! :o
Lol. I remember my mom telling me that the world is unfair when I was a child and me immediately snapping back with "The world is fair. People make it unfair."
I am an INTP that was married to an unfaithful ISFJ for 20 years. As a Christian I was hoping for God to restore my marriage. One of the ways I grew was in trying to give space for a change I had to strip the idea of covert contracts from my mind knowing I was not going to get what I deserved and had to do the right things because they were right and expect to reap what I sowed from God and not the other person; that life is fair, but I might not be able to follow the math.
At first when you said that this quadra is all about fairness I disagreed.My mother is an isfj and growing up she treated me very differently from my istp brother (im infp). My parents endowed my brother with more privileges growing up and saw him as responsible. My mom always looked at me in a different light and it was hard for her to put trust in me, part of that was my fault and part of it was hers. So I was confused how my mom could see fairness in treating her children very differently but it is because of how different of people me and my brother are. My mom didnt base her judgments off of "I let one kid do this so its only fair to let the other one" she decided what was fair based upon us as individuals and how she remembers us through her Si. When I was younger I absolutely hated that my mom didnt judge me in the present and would bring up things I did 4+ years ago to prove to me why I was still irresponsible, but because my brother had this perfectly clean slate my mom saw him as super responsible. It ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy and my mom pushed me in my early teenage years to do everything I could to break her limits she put on me.
loved the aquarius (fixed air sign) reference for NTPs. I have had a long-standing hypothesis that moon in aquarius is basically the INTP, based on multiple cases I came across, and also the descriptions match up. There should be a study mapping these types to the astrological moon signs which shows the type of the mind (psyche)
Mathemagicalmonk Wait astrology?
Prometheus yes I have been noticing correlations. But of course, I don’t have any explanations. Just curiously persistent correlations.
@@mathemagicalmonk2084 Im a Taurus some of the charicteristics match some dont but it basically describes a sensor, Si dom (Im ENTP). I could ignore all of the stuff that doesn't match me. Thats called confirmation bias. But if i actually look at how accurate it is. MInimal. Besides what correlation would the relative position of stars have with the personality of certain people born into months that we invented and assigned to constellations. Why do we need this explaination when we can already explain personality through genetic and envirmental factors.
I never said it was a water sign, I said it was the water bearer.
@Mathemagicalmonk I personally think it's a natal chart combination that correlates (as opposed to just one placement - Leo Moon ENTP here, 2x Gemini 1H and an abundance of Pisces placements) - but I tend to "sense" this better than I'm able to explain in words. Would be good to chat to someone who is also noticing patterns.
12:50 no wonder i got this feeling something bad is going to happen when my life started looking up...
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I was talking to my ESFJ brother about the icy sword and he admitted that he said it very bitter whenever he wanted to tell the truth. He asked me the solution how to not use icy sword? (he found fire sword more interesting) Btw he is affilative and probably it's hard for him.
our truth telling is cold as ice
Be careful with fire
But sometimes not so much
I am designing a mmorpg with classes as mbti types, and yes somehow I had the NTP's and SFJ's as the earth element...
How's it going?
These are my thoughts for pertaining to all in my Quadra, if there is an error, show me!:
I am a Crusader, therefore I must put my faith in the right thing.
I must put my faith in Reason, for Reason constitutes understanding the order of things.
Reason dictates that faith should only refer to a strong allegiance and not to a disposition without evidence, as evidence is the best indication of truth; the pursuit of which underlies all reason.
Therefore science is the best way of applying reason to the universe around us, as science entails the rigorous scrutiny of evidence in pursuit of what is most likely true.
Therefore it is best to place your faith (faith being strong allegiance) in that for which there is evidence. Otherwise you commit an injustice to yourself and others for not being able to evaluate and understand the fabric of nature, of which you, everything, and everyone are a part; If you are disharmonious with the universe, you cannot make it a just place to inhabit.
- INTP
BLΛCK SΛMPLE Such an INTP thing to say, but so fucking true. ENTP here that’s basically all NTPs philosophy.
You will need fire for the water to remain the form of formlessness
Just remember you can't personally scrutinise ALL the evidence, and so at some point you are putting faith in people to be as rigorous as is necessary, without evidence that they are.
Jessie
I am willing to tentatively accept the findings of science as our best approximation of existential reality.
I don’t think it’s reasonable to call that faith, which can be maintained in spite of evidence to the contrary.
How many people still don’t accept Evolutionary Theory in spite of the evidence?
How many people still believe in a God despite no evidence at all?
I am willing to hypothesize that the above problems are overwhelmingly faith oriented in nature. Which is to say evidence independent of belief; which is not how I intend to operate.
I am skeptical meaning my beliefs will change should the evidence change, i’m not pretending to know things that I do not know or make declarative statements about the universe just because it makes me feel good.
I believe faith is a great tool not a simple decoration.
So i have faith in the unknown and faith in the known of whom i have convicted myself to become a pure seeker of truth. My faith carries me onward evidence is also simply useful as stepping stones. You will get arrogant if your faith is so brittle and shortsighted as evidence, it needs to break. At the end evidence is also a set of subjective measurments destined to decompose and that doesn't sound like the attributes of Truth to me. Put your Faith directly in Truth science is a tool. Not perfect by a longshot. One of many to come i wouldn't put my faith in Humanity but in what is eternally there in lies truth.
INTP in crime here
god I never felt more scared to be proud of my critical thinking
you were screaming and I just ... _AM I REALLY CRITICAL ENOUGH?_
What's the best way for any person of these four types to master any skill (programming, cooking, piloting, math, etc.)?
Self Discipline
I once wondered why if I do wrong, I don't beg for forgiveness. I'm not arrogant. I am honest with myself. Is this because I was built for an alpha quadra? I am waiting for justice to judge my behavior.
I think your channel and what you're trying to teach us is an example of what you said in 33:55
BTW I appreciate your work 👍🏻
Uhm...Your description of the Alpha quadra as "Crusaders" sounds more in keeping with Beta quadra, which is focused around the combination of prescriptive "Laws" (Ti) and "Force" (Se). Alpha quadra prioritizes descriptive Ti "Laws" in tandem with Ne "Ideas".
No, beta quadra is searching for righteousness and thus are the templars.
@@CSJoseph
What are you basing this on?
No offense, but it sounds like you're just making up your own tabletop RPG that happens to borrow some terminology from Socionics.
Kimani White That’s exactly what he is doing. That’s why he cannot give you any sources for his arbitrary taxonomy. You just have to take his theories with a grain a salt. Chew the meat, spit the bones. 50% of his work is pretty much made up. The rest is of pretty good value.
I can verify all the information he is talking about, I’m an intp and my recent relationship ended very badly, my partner was an esfj and we never tried to understand each other it was more about battling about what is right and feelings and a lot of the time it was interrelationship battles that ended the whole thing. We are both ignorant and this video kicked me in the ass and slapped me in the face
How do you tell an INTP from a ISFJ, i literally can't tell if the person i'm typing is Abstract vs Concrete and Affiliative vs Pragmatic.
Haha this is how I really depend to say that someone with this quadra is able to stop the stupidity while theyre thinking about it. The typically picture moment for me when Theres a musically background clip when they gon be ringing at they elderly house and it‘s all questionable till its -„o-kay“
@35:50 - 35:57
My writings for the past year or more has been about the concept of nothing and attempting to pull everything from it... "The Collapse into Nothing", "The Nihilist", "The Nile", "The Flow of Nihil". I can barely believe you said that.
On top of that you speak of water and my metaphor around the concept of nothing has been the flow of nothing or the Nile river in Egypt. Nile - Nihilism. Crazy, absolutely crazy.
I have been essentially attempting to build my own belief system out of nothing.
This is so confusing, how can I know if I am an INTJ or an ENTP who is INTJ focused ?Its hard to believe in something and then you realise that it might not be true.
"apparently siri wanted to join in on the video as well" -- this activated my siri
Hmmm... I am an ENTP, my best friends are INTP and ESFJ, my copartner in the company were ESFJ, and my longest relationship was with other ENTP... I love templars in my life, too. Otherwise, great video!
Whoa...INTP here...my mother nicknamed me Dragon Mouth and later in life my handle/avatar became BlueFlame! I’ve had to burn it all down and reset many times...be a true scientist and always test, research verify...then continually be willing to do it all over again. It’s not logical to trust your ego or someone else’s!
Just watched your video a 2nd time and noticed that you mention Bruce Lee is a crusader type. Don't suppose you have any other videos breaking down Bruce Lee's personality? I assumed he would have had Se in his ego because of his advanced physical abilities and precision. Although I guess Si is very good for endurance so could also be beneficial for someone who wanted to master martial arts.
"Life is fair" now that might have trigger the audience, so let me say it again.
The xNTP energy has never been stronger.
Do you have any idea why is it so hard for me to put my thoughts into words? Is this a Ti thing? When i am supposed to be wordy, so i should have all the words available to describe my thoughts yet its hard, like, i just know in my mind, but cant put it into words.
💖💖💖 I can't wait until you talk about my quadra!
Very true. As an INTP I often times work with an ISFJ and ESFJ who are best friends. We constantly disagree on the best way to do things. They end up teaming up and trying to get the boss to change the situation while I remain completely apathetic. I’ve heard them tell each other that they hate working on those days when it’s just us three. It’s a difficult obstacle but I rationalize it as agreeing to disagree.
Who are the Alpha Quadra? They are those fantastic human beings I admire and melt all over with. They are those whom I'd go to the edge of the Earth with, trust unquestionably, follow their advice, heed their word and fear their judgement/disappointment the most. I'd die for my ESFJ sister, follow every book/film recommendation of INTP friend, absorb every word of my ESFJ work mentor and completely go out of my mind with that enticing ENTP I had a hopeless crush with last year.
I do not know how I can possibly give back on every single good thing you've done for me guys, so PLEASE just ask and I'll move the mountains for you - if only you ever ask.
Forever yours, your loving INTJ
Excellent presentation, btw.
Which books should I read that explain quadras, and what parts of those books should I ignore?
Epiphany: I was telling my INTJ awhile back how my ESFJ grandma is similar to me in that she's always for the underdog. Now I get it. Haha and I was always her favorite bc socially I AM the underdog.
interesting maybe thats why my parents are always at each others' throats. 99% sure they are ISFJ/INTP.
i dont know if im right or not but the most common problem with intps is critical thinking to the point that you dont start or do anything! pls make it clear sir
My classes are full of xsfjs and xNTPs lol.
46 years of observations consistently show these types together as friends and or married partners as predominantly choleric people the esfj isfj are attracted to predominantly phlegmatic people INTP entp
Isfj is melancholy dominant but choleric secondary
Entp is sanguine dominant and phlegmatic secondary
Can you go more into depth on these observations Vern? I think that I have an idea of where you're coming from with this but not all the way.
I watched the Beta Quadra, before this.....and oh my gosh- he definitely used his ice sword. But it was very helpful, (ISTP)
Great job with this one 👌
I find that I have this insatiable paranoia from stressful situations and from anticipating a blowout fight with someone. Is there a reason for that involving this quadra specifically and what do you suggest one does to learn to fix that?
careful, this quadra may take your enemy's side.
In the Enneagram the ENTPs most common tritype is 783, the most masculine of all tritypes, shared by ESTPs. The INTPs most common tritype is 594 the most effeminate tritype. This explains why my ENTP brother was a star high school QB while as an INTP I cheered him on from the library.
Well that varies too. Shadow focused ENTPs are more likely to be type 8s, with myself as an example being an 873
Is there a video or a blog post which explains all the archetypes? Ardent, Rogue, etc.? I'm very interested what is the meaning or the essence of each.
season 3 explains the types. Playlist on this channel.
and two painters is cool! It's the same as two dancers! One doesn't fully rely on the other they both know what they're doing with themselves and what the other does and it creates this vibe of amazing energy between the two, the closer the dancers, the more energy you notice. And the more they're conscious of what they're pulling as a duo, as a shared experience, the more it seems syncronized and just magical
but then, depending on their gratitude levels they'd either be happy or expect more next time because they didn't get to experience the other dancer's view as much as they wanted or something.
I seem kinda too optimistic about the whole Se-Se matching and Si-Si match too but that's because I feel like you're creating a new obstacle for humans, anyone can learn to appreciate anyone. Don't use the truth card because it's becoming a secebo effect for a perfectly good thing. True, there are some hardships with same functions encounters but instead of preaching looking for a better match and "not recommending" going in any relationship for a simple thing, I find it better to appreciate that camaradery exists and that people should learn how to use it
I know your Te critic is screaming "Why do you want another hardship when more compatible partners can literary make you a better person whereas conflict will arise with those least compatible matches!? I swear these people can't be smart for a SECOND in their lives"
that's your opinion and my Te is perfectly fine with it, however Fi is just not digesting this AT ALL
have a good day! :)
Ti must use Bayesian thinking to avoid making error
wow according to you I'm very very Alpha quadra. Focus on fairness, innocence, truth, I thought those first two were Fi. I've been confused of whether I was INTP or INFP in MBTI, all descriptions of Fi and Ti I could relate, though in Socionics I had known that I was INTP/INTj/LII.
Lol is Siri in alpha quadra? At least sounds like a dependable Si user. Come to think of it, Siri is pretty Si/Ne - all about loyalty and providing options in an attempt to satisfy the user's desires.