That last topic was great! Beaing able to back off and save from a bigger mistake saves lots of time, also learning how to pull out of many mistakes saves alot of time, as this teknique isn't perfect some are better than others at knowing how to control the teetering on the edge of a roll over, and pull out if it. That has increased my skill dramatically. Also having top equipment is a must to hang in the top 5 in sportsman in my region. I turned 40 this year and just ran my first 40+ e-buggy class I qualified 6th out of the 9 of us but in sportsman ebuggy I would have been 3rd out of 36 based on qualifying times. Sorry for the long meassage, my name is Jason also and I have a rc racing channel that I don't get time to do as much as I would like with my channel but, I race serpent buggies and truggies and love the cars! Really enjoying your videos
My thoughts are consistency is king. No matter what your level, if you are driving at a speed beyond your capabilities to keep the vehicle on your desired line, then your average lap times will be higher. Obviously, there are many opportunities to push your luck and it may be worth the cost to improve your position, but the consequence of taking these risks is mistakes and crashes that only slow you down more than whatever time you may have gained.
Can't afford mistakes if you want to compete for wins... if that pace you can run consistently isn't fast enough to compete you gotta put in the work to get faster and bring down the lap average.
I think it's easier in learning to be fast. Learning how to be fast with the addition of consistency is the next step in the evolution to one's racing. We can focus solely on avoiding crashes in order to be consistent but I feel you will never get close to those who are pro's. I feel you'll never see the limits of your driving and how far you can push if you're not aiming to be fast, first.
In my opinion and experience it is a combination of both. I recently ran a 4wd stock buggy main with 97%+ consistency, but finished 7th out of 13. I do not know when and where to push it to make up time. I do see some local fast guys turning hot laps, but failing to podium consistently. In there case, consistency > speed. I say this because their driving skills already bring them above the pack, and their competitiveness (speed) brings them down in to the pack.
Really good stuff there... consistency is a big key but if you're giving up too much time every lap the faster drivers can afford to make mistakes. The really good drivers are not only fast but consistent as well! With this video I wanted to get you thinking about both and I'd say you definitely have it in mind... 97% is really good. To get better results try to keep that consistency and bring down that average lap time!
Im about 16 years into racing, the majority was in 1/8 nitro offroad. At the time with long mains i learned playing it safe worked for me as making it through a 30-45min race was as much of a challenge as racing others. I can drive at 80% for a long long time. Now racing electric i have got myself stuck in a bubble of playing it too safe. Its a little more difficult to capitalize on others breaking or mechanical failures in 6min races. Currently trying to force myself to risk it more😊
I think riding the line between consistency and speed is the key. Push just enough to force that mistake, then capitalize and roll out. Practice the track, figure out where you can push and shave tenths or pull it back and get through the section. Also, winning starts before you get to the track. A meticulously prepared car will perform well and inspire confidence to push where you can. Oh, and lots of wheel time. Just my $.02.
All great stuff man! That's a winning formula for sure. When you look at a track to pick out spots to push vs. spots to have a little more caution and consistency? And if you do what might be something that makes you back off a little bit or be cautious?
@@TheRacinJason I always have issues in rhythm sections or whoops regardless of track surface, so I always back it off there. However, here in Colorado we have very sandy, loose soil which is super fun but degrades quickly. My home tracks develop holes in the same places even throughout a race, so learning the line where the grip is instead of where the speed is helps me be consistent 🤙 already putting some of the video into practice, love the channel and thanks for the interaction
Facts! I've looked at lap times & there are many faster guys, but they end up crashing & I get the pass. I also notice that when I overdrive I always end up performing worse..
All good n fine to run consistently in heats then start in top 4 then in first 1-3 turns u get taken out by people. Getting rear ended, spun out and tipped over is no fun, hard to come back from when racing is so tight already.
That's really tough. One problem I think RC "racing" has is 75% of it is practice and qualifying. Drivers need more practice racing and getting ran over at the start should be policed. I've definitely been there! Track designs with tight 180's as a first turn are brutal, another way to help this would be to space the starting grid better. A lot of time those things are out of your control, one of the best things for me was qualifying better and having a more positive attitude and approach to the start! Car control is your friend at the start to stay clean. Stick with it Jeremy! What are you racing?
@@NikkiNexo777 a crash probably cost 5 seconds... sometimes more sometimes less. But for the sake of argument if it cost 5 seconds, someone that's a second faster than the super consistent driver can crash once every 5 laps... so you've gotta be both. But the more technical and challenging a track is the more consistency becomes important, because mistakes are more frequent! They're both important for sure. Smooth is fast! Mistakes are killers
@@TheRacinJason you must race somewhere great, I have club level raced and watched major races here on youtube, and 5 seconds is very optimistic. I think you mean 5 positions LOL. Where I race you got the guy who would rather be working on his car, the ADD kid, the fat guy who is slower than a three legged turtle or one of the racers wives who is afraid to go out onto the track.
I heard you say you live in the northwest. Your terrain looks like mine. I'm in south west Washington. Just moved and I am building a new track. I've made a few before.
@TheRacinJason I just became the new Camp host at Rock Creek Horse camp. I've got a good little area as a back yard. It looks like they Bodo's the ground a couple years ago so the ground is really good. I'm gonna be posting a video pretty soon of the new track.
It depends on the level of competition. Club racing, the car that wrecks least usually wins the proper racing lines don't matter much, its just a good place to get in a tangle with other people trying the line. Stay on your wheels and out of the wrecks When the marshals recognize your car from the bottom, you finish last. You have to watch out for the idiot who just sends it. As you move into the big local trophy races, you have to start adding speed and trying to find shorter ways around the track, but again only if you won't get in trouble. You also have to start learning to read the track and figure out where it is going, so you can stay away from Mr. Just Send It
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finishing the race is most important. Followed by consistency (lap after lap, no major mistakes). Then speed (no small mistakes, blown corners. etc)
Have to finish for sure! Definitely agree with your breakdown
Speed is very important. However, I think it's wise to first find consistency.
That last topic was great! Beaing able to back off and save from a bigger mistake saves lots of time, also learning how to pull out of many mistakes saves alot of time, as this teknique isn't perfect some are better than others at knowing how to control the teetering on the edge of a roll over, and pull out if it. That has increased my skill dramatically. Also having top equipment is a must to hang in the top 5 in sportsman in my region. I turned 40 this year and just ran my first 40+ e-buggy class I qualified 6th out of the 9 of us but in sportsman ebuggy I would have been 3rd out of 36 based on qualifying times. Sorry for the long meassage, my name is Jason also and I have a rc racing channel that I don't get time to do as much as I would like with my channel but, I race serpent buggies and truggies and love the cars! Really enjoying your videos
Appreciate you sharing! Gotta be fast and consistent. Track position is huge in RC, especially at the start of the race before things get spread out!
My thoughts are consistency is king. No matter what your level, if you are driving at a speed beyond your capabilities to keep the vehicle on your desired line, then your average lap times will be higher. Obviously, there are many opportunities to push your luck and it may be worth the cost to improve your position, but the consequence of taking these risks is mistakes and crashes that only slow you down more than whatever time you may have gained.
Can't afford mistakes if you want to compete for wins... if that pace you can run consistently isn't fast enough to compete you gotta put in the work to get faster and bring down the lap average.
I think it's easier in learning to be fast. Learning how to be fast with the addition of consistency is the next step in the evolution to one's racing. We can focus solely on avoiding crashes in order to be consistent but I feel you will never get close to those who are pro's. I feel you'll never see the limits of your driving and how far you can push if you're not aiming to be fast, first.
In my opinion and experience it is a combination of both. I recently ran a 4wd stock buggy main with 97%+ consistency, but finished 7th out of 13. I do not know when and where to push it to make up time.
I do see some local fast guys turning hot laps, but failing to podium consistently. In there case, consistency > speed. I say this because their driving skills already bring them above the pack, and their competitiveness (speed) brings them down in to the pack.
Really good stuff there... consistency is a big key but if you're giving up too much time every lap the faster drivers can afford to make mistakes. The really good drivers are not only fast but consistent as well! With this video I wanted to get you thinking about both and I'd say you definitely have it in mind... 97% is really good. To get better results try to keep that consistency and bring down that average lap time!
Im about 16 years into racing, the majority was in 1/8 nitro offroad. At the time with long mains i learned playing it safe worked for me as making it through a 30-45min race was as much of a challenge as racing others. I can drive at 80% for a long long time. Now racing electric i have got myself stuck in a bubble of playing it too safe. Its a little more difficult to capitalize on others breaking or mechanical failures in 6min races. Currently trying to force myself to risk it more😊
Survival in a long race can definitely get you some spots. 6 min is a sprint and you have to be on your game for sure!
I think riding the line between consistency and speed is the key. Push just enough to force that mistake, then capitalize and roll out. Practice the track, figure out where you can push and shave tenths or pull it back and get through the section. Also, winning starts before you get to the track. A meticulously prepared car will perform well and inspire confidence to push where you can. Oh, and lots of wheel time. Just my $.02.
All great stuff man! That's a winning formula for sure. When you look at a track to pick out spots to push vs. spots to have a little more caution and consistency? And if you do what might be something that makes you back off a little bit or be cautious?
@@TheRacinJason I always have issues in rhythm sections or whoops regardless of track surface, so I always back it off there. However, here in Colorado we have very sandy, loose soil which is super fun but degrades quickly. My home tracks develop holes in the same places even throughout a race, so learning the line where the grip is instead of where the speed is helps me be consistent 🤙 already putting some of the video into practice, love the channel and thanks for the interaction
Awesome Wyatt! What do you struggle with in the jump stuff?
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Facts! I've looked at lap times & there are many faster guys, but they end up crashing & I get the pass. I also notice that when I overdrive I always end up performing worse..
Smooth is fast for sure! I posted a video with most of an A Main that I was consistent and fast. Couldn't catch the top 4 guys
All good n fine to run consistently in heats then start in top 4 then in first 1-3 turns u get taken out by people. Getting rear ended, spun out and tipped over is no fun, hard to come back from when racing is so tight already.
That's really tough. One problem I think RC "racing" has is 75% of it is practice and qualifying. Drivers need more practice racing and getting ran over at the start should be policed. I've definitely been there! Track designs with tight 180's as a first turn are brutal, another way to help this would be to space the starting grid better.
A lot of time those things are out of your control, one of the best things for me was qualifying better and having a more positive attitude and approach to the start! Car control is your friend at the start to stay clean.
Stick with it Jeremy!
What are you racing?
@@TheRacinJason ebuggy etruggy and i agree on all those fronts
Consistency wins races. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Definitley agree! But how slow is too slow?
@@TheRacinJason Good question. What do you think?
@@NikkiNexo777 a crash probably cost 5 seconds... sometimes more sometimes less. But for the sake of argument if it cost 5 seconds, someone that's a second faster than the super consistent driver can crash once every 5 laps... so you've gotta be both. But the more technical and challenging a track is the more consistency becomes important, because mistakes are more frequent!
They're both important for sure. Smooth is fast! Mistakes are killers
@@TheRacinJason you must race somewhere great, I have club level raced and watched major races here on youtube, and 5 seconds is very optimistic. I think you mean 5 positions LOL. Where I race you got the guy who would rather be working on his car, the ADD kid, the fat guy who is slower than a three legged turtle or one of the racers wives who is afraid to go out onto the track.
@@jasonrhodes9726 I think we've all gotten those corner Marshall's. But 5 seconds was just the example... even more reason not to crash though.
No risk… no nothing! As is life 🥇
Risk it for the biscuit!
I heard you say you live in the northwest. Your terrain looks like mine. I'm in south west Washington. Just moved and I am building a new track. I've made a few before.
Yep! Hopefully you have less rocks in your soil than we do. We're about 30 min east of Seattle
@TheRacinJason I just became the new Camp host at Rock Creek Horse camp. I've got a good little area as a back yard. It looks like they Bodo's the ground a couple years ago so the ground is really good. I'm gonna be posting a video pretty soon of the new track.
@@TheRacinJason I am in yacolt, wa.
Very cool! Send me a link when it's up
@@nickkestie can't say I've heard of that town but if I'm down that way I'll have to come check out the track!
It depends on the level of competition. Club racing, the car that wrecks least usually wins the proper racing lines don't matter much, its just a good place to get in a tangle with other people trying the line. Stay on your wheels and out of the wrecks When the marshals recognize your car from the bottom, you finish last. You have to watch out for the idiot who just sends it.
As you move into the big local trophy races, you have to start adding speed and trying to find shorter ways around the track, but again only if you won't get in trouble. You also have to start learning to read the track and figure out where it is going, so you can stay away from Mr. Just Send It
We're lucky to have some strong club racing here with around 30 entries in both 1/8 buggy classes. Also a good travel series but those are long days
@@TheRacinJason The only thing I haven't seen is a car get someone on the driver's stand, but I am hoping.
Consistency wins races!
I would say consistency
Consistency is super important! The really fast guys are both fast and consistent. Can't afford mistakes
Consistency
Consistency definitely gets you up towards the front! Not crashing is huge to saving time over other cars that are pushing the limits too far