(picking 348) The SUPRA safe lock key box explained and decoded (if lucky) - thanks West Coast Picks
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2017
- That's a wonderful toy to play with, the SUPRA key box safe lock that 'West Coast Picks' sent to me. It's safe type locks with three wheels and false gates. If the combination meets some requirements it can be decoded. In this video I explain the way this locks works, show the method to decode it and how to change the combination. Hope you have fun.
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Great explanation
I tried what I learned from this on the SUPRA portable version of this lock (key lockbox with a padlock bar and letter-combo dial). I was able to decode it thanks to you👍
Very cool. ☺ I knew you would love figuring it out. I didn't want to spoil it for you so I never took it apart on camera lol.
I like longer videos cause I can watch them while I make dinner pick locks or make challenge locks. Very well done video and nice decoding ☺
Thanks Harley; that was very nice of you to let me reveal the secrets of the lock - what an awesome gesture :-) Great lock to play with. Now my 8 year old has taken possession of it for now to secure his "valuables" in it - great fun for the whole family.
This is the best video on the explanation and demonstration of decoding combo locks I've ever seen! Nicely done Potti314! Thank you for the video!
Thank you for the nice feedback. Cheers :-)
Thanks Ive been looking for this video. I have thrown these locks out before due to losing combos. This video proves they are basically unpickable but is pretty interesting and I might give it a try.
some great info. interesting video. thanks for sharing
Cheers and thanks for watching.
This is an excellent video and very well explained, Thanks for the lesson and thanks for helping me pick mine!
Thank you very much for the motivating feedback - great to read that my video was helpful. How long did it take until you got yours open?
Took around 10 mins after I saw your video. Thanks!
Something Amazing!
This is the best toy for locksmith safe students.
I'm not joking about that !!!)
Really very very interesting choice of lock 🔒
Limbs....! I need one like this lock 🔒!
Thx for your work Master 👍
Great demo and explanation :-) very fun video to watch, thank you :-)
Thanks for watching buddy - you know how much I love these puzzles :-)
Nice explanaition Mr Potti!👍Nice lock safe, it was good of Mr Harley to send it to you.✌🙃
Harley is very nice to send me such a cool tool - he knows what I like ;-) Thanks for watching.
I was able to decode a lock because of you. Thank you!
Great job.
Great video Michael, really enjoyed it.
Thank you - appreciate you watching mate. Glad you liked it.
Great video. Very educated. Thank you Sir!
Very welcome - thank you.
A nice and fun video full of cool information. Great job! :)
Thank you - glad you liked it.
Awesome video! Helped me get into my boiler room and turn the heat back on.
Thanks for the feedback.
Nice job! Was able to get a lock box open I'd forgotten the combo to!!
Glad I could help.
You are the man! I watched your video twice to make sure I had everything down correctly. One of those locks was a attached in my house when I bought it and I fooled around with it a little bit but never got too involved with it because I never got the code and I could never get in it. I applied everything that you said in your video it took me slightly longer than you probably about 10 minutes, but it worked! I had no idea what the combination was I followed your instructions, and I got in! Thank you so much! I was even able to figure out how to change the combination on my own
Very cool - thanks for letting us participate on your success :-) Very interesting real life application of a decoding method - hope it was a great feeling when you could depress the button finally. Cheers :-)
@@Potti314 it sure was! Thanks again
great job my friend and great info😎😎😎😊👍
Thank you :-)
Dude, you're awesome. I wasn't able to decode the combination but the rest of your demonstration worked wonders for me. Make another video of the way I did it if you please, I'm not going to make one. Here is what I did to open mine:
I shined a flashlight inside the lock from the back screw holes, since I saw how it's made from your video, I used a strong but tiny awl and opened the two latches on top of the black backing, you may need two. Then I opened the top. I moved the key that was inside along with the screw heads I cut off to the bottom of the box. I kept the black cover inside the lock open as I shook the inside parts loose while turning the dial and they eventually all fell inside freeing the lock so I could open it. Remember to shake the parts loose while keeping the front of the lock facing up so the parts falls inside the cavity. Now, thanks to your video, there was no surprises or guess work as how to put it back together. I didn't find the combination but I made my own... Mine is a series S5, the only difference from yours is the black cover inside doesn't come off, it is inged at the bottom. It would have been much easier if mine was made like yours because the black lid could just come off. Thanks a lot for a real nice thorough video.
Great that you had success with your lock and thanks a lot for sharing your story :-)
@@Potti314 The pleasure is all mine. I just looked at your videos and I just had to subscribe...
Thank you for sharing your alternate technique.
Due to the specific unknown combination that had been set previously, I was able to discover only the third letter of the combo. Unfortunately, the technique shared in the video was not allowing me to discover the first and second letter of the combo.
Your alternate solution worked perfectly and I was able to get the box open with two small screwdrivers in about 5 minutes.
Kudos to you!
I love it buddy, great vid again. Great explanation of the mechanism, picking and gutting. I will gut one dial padlock I have to see whats inside. Can´t pick it yet, so... it´s tiiiiiime to guuuut it ;o))))
Thanks for sharing Michael, a pleasure to view ;-))
Cheers!
Yes, gut it by all means - we need to take things apart and hold it in our hands to get an understanding of the mechanism as good as possible - and it's great fun :-)
very impressive nice pick and explanation! i'm trying to get into combination locks very cool video mr. 314!
Thank you. I love combination lock - they are so much fun. Here is all I have about them ua-cam.com/play/PLuSaKS-pr3L81psh-vAVyp7R6Te1n5M37.html Cheers :-)
thank you so very much! holy awesome!
Thanks for this video! I have a lock outside of my home that is just like this. Likely hasn't been opened in twenty years. What's in the box? Treasure? Lizards? Now I can find out! 😁
Haha, good luck with opening in. Hope you'll find something interesting.
Awesome video! Do you have a recommendation for a similar lock that is better than this one. I’m having a hard time finding one that isn’t easy to break into. The space inside doesn’t need to be large but I’d prefer as secure as physically possible. I love the strong design of this one, but I don’t even know much about picking locks and I noticed the much too large gate when I got mine in.
Edit. Sorry I posted that before the last minute was over. I see I just need to make a better combination that harder to decrypt.
What a great comprehensive video explaining an interesting lock. I really enjoyed it!
P.S. Your locks are on the way ;-)
Thank you - makes me happy to read that you had fun watching. Looking forward to receiving the package :-)
I was able to open mine after viewing this video! (And fooling around with it for a few hours). The key point for me was that when you have found the first letter, and you press on the opener, the bottom of the dial pops out a little bit, as mentioned in the video. That's because the opener is pressing against the wheels for the 2nd and 3rd letters, which are farther away from the dial, and not against the wheel for the 1st letter.
Thanks, potti314!
Thanks for the feedback - happy that you got your open. Cheers :-)
This tip about the dial popping out is what helped me decode mine. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry for the long video. Nonetheless I hope you find it interesting. Thanks a lot to WCP for this interesting lock.
Nice description of what's inside and how you decoded it....I don't see how you could have made the video any shorter....just right !
Potti314 It wasn't too long and I don't think that you could have made it any shorter because of the method by which you decoded it. Btw, this was a great educational video for me as I have never seen this method explained so well yet. Thank you for the opportunity to learn about decoding combo locks! I hope that I can get one of mine open using this method. Great video Potti314!
Thank you - happy you had fun watching. Also thanks for the feedback about the video length.
Thank you - glad you found it interesting all the way to the end. Good luck with your locks - search for flaws and explore the options - that's the fun :-)
The combination was kinda obvious when i saw the 3 wheels ahah, great video mate :)
Haha, for me it was obvious after I found the combination - before I didn't think of any possible code. But then it hit me like a lightning and I laughed out loud :-)
Thank you for a great video!
Which type of key box safe would you choose if you are to store your house key in?
Sorry, I have no good overview of the different models.
Well I have learnt 2things from this video.....
1/My ability to retain information is very very poor
2/ If I need a lock decoding I will post it to you
😉😘😘😂😂
Super work as always and thanks for taking the time to make a very informative video😎😎😎😍😍😍👍
Thanks for watching mate, happy that you had fun. Haha, yes if you come across a cool combo lock, let me know ;-) Now sure what you mean with (1) - please let me know if you have suggestion on how to improve my "explanatory" video to make them more comprehensible.
Potti314 Lots of information,my small brain can't compute that much in one go😂😂
An other way to open this lock, heat the lock, and when the plastic wheels are molten, it opens!
Good idea to melt the plastic wheels. But that stinks ;-)
@@Potti314 I don't understand why they use plastic parts in security products. Nonsense!
Well, it's cheaper.
That was an absolutely fascinating video ... I had to watch it twice because I was learning so much! :D Well done making a see-through back-plate - and thank you for explaining things just as clearly! When you said you reset the combination the first time but you were frustrated that you couldn't get into it (because the false gates were not aligned), how did you manage to get into it? Very nice video and thank you for sharing. :D
Thank you for you kind words my friend. I think I didn't put it one the box but tried to decode it outside so I could open it up again from the other side.
I bought this house with this same lockbox. The previous owner could not remember the code. It is been 4 years now and I am really tired of looking at it and want to install a smart home lockbox.
I could not get decode it following this video. Too much outside noise and every catch feels the same. I found the first gate, but I cannot find the second and obviously third.
I just want to destroy it. I should be able to hammer my small crowbar into it to break the latch.
It's your lock, do whatever you want.
Since the last letter of the code is determined easily and the gates span two letters, that leaves 169 possible combinations that could be sequential tested. That could be a solution for those times the false gates do not line up.
True, the brute force method is always an option. But I find it hard to do it right every time and not mess up with one number.
great job. thanks for the explanation. I was surprised the true gate was so large I would've thought it would be just slightly larger than the bar. is it possible to line the false gates were none of the three line up together?
Thank you. Yes, the gates are really large - at least two full letters. There are 26 letters and 12 gates - so roughly for every second letter the false gates align. Due to tolerances I would say that always two gates align when having 3 wheels. But I cannot test it as my son has the box taken along to a little trip today.
Potti314 Lol he must really like that. lock up all his important things lol
Yes it is possible to line it so that the false gates do not align. In fact I just check my combination and the false gate line up. And it is not a surprise that the false gates line up since my luck is dictated by Murphy's Laws. So a change it so that it did not line up.
So I just want to thanks Potti314/Potti-π for this video, as I would never know to make sure that the false gates do not line up without watching Potti-π video.
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question. Would it be advantageous to take a file to some of the false gates, to "randomize" the feedback of the play? Would that damage the integrity of the lock in general or simply not effect the play enough increase the difficulty?
Guess the more variation in feedback you can introduce the better. For practical and cost related reasons this is not done commercially.
@@Potti314 Totally makes sense, thank you.
Due to the gates, I can figure out the last letter of the combination every time, with ease. But I can't figure out the 1st and 2nd letters.
Exactly. 1st and 2nd are possible depending if you are lucky with the false gates and they align.
Can I use this method on combo padlocks too?
Well, it depends on the internal mechanism. That's the fun - exploring and finding flaws in the design :-)
Just think of all the houses I can look around in.... lol j/k
Haha, maybe that's the true reason for these boxes - attracting guests. Don't miss to take alone a little present ;-)
I bought these because of this video, and now I have messed up recording a combo. 😢 Hopefully, I get lucky. If not, can they be drilled or something? It's stuck on the side of a house, and useless...
Hi this would be a lock for the captains quarters sort of my gatherings would say this locks a limited edition
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
My button won't push down,it would before but now it will only go halfway, what have i done?
Maybe the combination was altered by mistake and now one code wheel is off.
@@Potti314 Hey thanks for the response! I'll have another look at it, but it's at a friends right now. I'll let you know :)
I have the same lock but couldn’t figure it out. Can I send it to you?
As I mentioned there are combinations that cannot be decoded. You can try inserting a thin screwdriver in the back holes to open the internal cover and pull/shake out the wheels. I think shipping costs are too high compared to the benefits and the small likelihood of my chance opening it.
I just posted how I opened mine using that technique. It really works.
So only if somebody would made(design) it a bit better it would be very good lock? ;P
It's made from super shiny plastic or cast bronze/brass?
It's definitely metal, maybe coated aluminum - but not sure. Regarding the lock-mechanism is really not too bad but I think that a hammer and screwdriver would forcibly open it up. Nothing I would store my house key in.
@@Potti314 Nice video, I haven't opened mine yet, just reading comments. Locks are only for honest people as they can cut a hole in your door or wall. Someday you might mount this outside the home with a key in it in case your son comes home and no one is there to let him in. When it is mounted you don't know if anything is in it and even if there is a key you need to figure out which lock it opens. Maybe you put a combination on paper in it to another lock. It is better or as good as a hide-a-key.
How do you change the code?
Disassemble it and turn the code wheels.
@@Potti314 umm ok....
Something Amazing!
This is the best toy for locksmith safe students.
I'm not joking about that !!!)
Really very very interesting choice of lock 🔒
Limbs....! I need one like this lock 🔒!
Thx for your work Master 👍