I'm a real safecracker. Been doing it for 35 years. Such a sad thing to see someone destroy a nice piece of history. All for show. For a real safecracker it could have been opened by a technique called manipulation or at least with a 1/'8" hole. Then a tiny repair and you could still use it. This is one of those "hold my beer" moments.
If I had 35 years of safecracking experience, well sure I would have just opened the door. As I said in the video, local locksmith wanted $250 to unlock the safe. Safe in that condition with a combo is not worth much more than $250 around here. It didn't make financial sense to pay to have it opened. I repaired and painted the safe and now use it as an end table in my house. Also sold the rings for almost $900.
well congrats you just destroyed a$300 safe!! How do I know this cause I had one exactly like that one and sold it for that price. in good working condition it worth about $600-$700 retail. you should have waited and pay a lock smith to open it with much less damage
@@MAXREZNIK just because he bought it for 65 doesn't mean thats what its worth. reread my comment, i sold one exactly like that one for $300, its not a common safe.
@@thomasloanwolf to him it’s worth $65 though cuz thats what he paid for it, if you wanna get nitpicky tho a million views on a video with 5 mid rolls is worth at least a few grand so this is arguably the most profitable outcome
so sad to see that safe damaged so badly. the Locksmith would have opened it with only a 1/4 inch to 5/16 hole and repair would have been silly easy. I have worked for 27 years as a locksmith / safe tech. this seriously hurts to watch.
Just got done telling him the same thing lol. One locksmith to the other!! Gotta love the ones that try to break into them and hit the tear gas lmao. Too bad to ruin a nice antique safe. He could have had it with a new working combination!!
One man's trash is another man's treasure. This is pretty mild by UA-cam standards, considering I have seen people destroy perfectly good and brand new airplanes, supercars, and high-end electronics. This thing was scrap metal to all but like 15 people in the world.
Where would that hole be at roughly? and how would you repair it? I have a cast iron Cincinnati safe and lock Co. Safe. I am looking to repair one that was broken into years ago and I am trying to see what I will need to Replace.
@@zragevii4705 I'll have to go thru my storage to find my books. I'll let you know. Also any locksmith that deals in safes would be a better deal. Unfortunately some safes are labor intensive and usually the charges are per hour and any supplies used.
I have never seen a man more accomplished with his hands on the tools. There were times that I thought "will this work, hmmm". I was in construction for 10 yrs., and loved it. I really loved your video. You kept my attention, and your voice is easy to listen too.
Sometimes the safe is more valuable than the contents. Case in point I had a friend that destroyed a safe to see whats inside only to find out at a later date the safe was valued at 50,000 dollars as it was quite a old valuable collectible.
We received a safe like this, my youngest son oened it from the bottom, without damaging the lock and facade. The safe is back to function and looks as new.
Now that the safe is completely trashed. I would have paid the $250 bucks. Could have sold the safe for at least $500.00. you've got a boat anchor now. Thanks for the show though👍😊
Great ability to be able to the heart beat uncovering what could be in there. Also the concept for furniture or a conversation piece. You will profit i am confident. Onward 🌈
As a locksmith, going through the front door on that particular safe would have been much easier, and also give you access to any other compartments you may have missed on the other side of that dividing wall. The fire retarding material used within the safe walls is called, "gypsum". Though it's thicker, and lacks the paper, it's very similar to drywall.
As an apprentice I assisted my employer with opening several safes. We did one in that was left in a house that had been used as the town office while the town hall was being built in the 1800's. We struggled with it for some time until realizing there was a 4th wheel...
@@johnb4183 usually the dial gets taken off and a small hole is drilled into the dial pack. Then a scope is inserted so you can view the gates in the wheels as you line them up. Once all the gates are lined up in the proper spot, the fence drops in and voila. Its a little more involved than that, and it all hinges on finding the right spot to drill so you don't trip the relocker.
With the serial number, you can get the combination list. These safes had a list of about 100 combinations that were used when they were manufactured The lists may even be online. Rather than wreck it Most people would not know how to change the combination and would not pay for it, so it most likely has the original factory combination
Next time please wear a hepa filtered mask. Old stuff tends to be made with asbestos materials for their thermal insulating properties sometimes its mixed with cement. Good Vid!
Those safes were good for small operations and would deter thieves because they took a while to get into, most don't want to spend much time inside a house or business they are burgling. You coulkd wheel it out but hoisting it into a trunk would take some effort. I had that same safe on a radio site in Korea, we kept the morphine and code books in it. One day we were told the combination should be changed so I took the panel off the rear of the 2-1/2 " thick door and found instructions on haw to change the combo. back in the civilian world we had that safes big brother in the front office for petty cash and Orisene (used for gold plating) and petty cash. The owner mentioned that the combo was known to former employees and sb changed, I told him I had done so in the army and he asked me to do it again. i reset the combo and explained to him how to change it so he could set his own combo. I told him to be very sure everything was tight when he finished and to be doubly sure he wrote the new combo down and that it worked BEFORE locking the safe. Funny thing is a few years later my old landlord told me to take anything I wanted as they were selling the house and he told be the combo to the safe in the cellar. That safe had been in his dads business since the early 1900's.40+ years later I have that old Hall safe in the corner of my dining room, it holds that corner of the house down quite well and it also doubles as a stand for my laser printer.. i keep some papers in there and have a record of the combo.
That's so true. Even a cheap $99 gun safe can be very difficult for most amateur burglars and you can bolt them into a corner where they're virtually impossible to break open without power tools. In my area we don't have thieves who are that ambitious. They're always hit and run taking only those things that are easy to steal.
This should have been a 5 minuet video, locksmith in safe contents in and out in less 5 mins made a pigs ear of that safe, just dragging the vid out for as long as he can.
The Property Crimes unit was charged with the responsibility of opening safes that were found and locked. Usually a locksmith was contracted. I only observed two opened. The first was filled with dirty water and the second had a 1958 ticket to a Chicago White Sox ball game.
It's unfortunate that you had to cut open a very well made fireproof safe like this. I think if you try to manipulate the dial with the right tools you can at least have a 50/50chance to open it . It might take a whole week , but in my opinion it's worth the try . Because well made classic safes could increase in value just like classic cars . Btw I'm a professional locksmith and just subscribed to your interesting channel.
Yeah without knowing much about the locks themselves its hard to know what your working with. I had fun shooting the videos and figuring out how these old safes work. I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
WOW! So weird to watch a person destroy a safe the hard way. I cut a hole next to the lock and got in that way. Welded the front back and used the bolts on the back of the door to replace the lock, less than fifty for a safe I used for 30 years.
I have that exact same safe. My dad accidentally put the combination inside the safe so we wouldn't lose it and we forgot it LOL. We called a locksmith he charged us $45. It's so heavy nobody's going to steal it unless they have a loader tractor or a tow truck
Nice score ,hope you can make some good cash on the rings. I worked with a old timer he was a engineer when he was in the army in World War II. He said they found a big safe ,it took him all day to get it open. Only to find nothing inside.
Thanks Joe! I actually did pretty good on the rings, took them to a shop and was offered $395 I think. Took them home and used a gold testing kit, was actually $800 worth of gold. I sold them to my aunt who is a jeweler and she just paid me the actual melt value.
I can not believe that this old safe was destroyed like this. Things are not make like this any longer, so if everyone destroys them. They will all at some point just disappear, and the next generations will never get to know what was done back in the time of all of their grandparents. I bet that if you would have opened it by a locksmith, that you could have had the combo changed, and sold it for about 500 easy. An you only called one locksmith, that something that you should have called more then one. I had a safe that I could not get open, and I called three or four and the price of opening had a wide range.
Might be interesting to find out if that old concrete had asbestos in it for the fire retardant... a little late now but just for your future health, it would be good to know. Good luck.
That was my first thought too. As if anyone could go out and buy a safe with unknown contents, obviously cheap items planted like some of those videos from a lost property suitcase or locker, should we tell him the combination?
Put a light inside and with a mirror you should be able to see to unlock the door from the inside. Set a new combo and after repairing the wall you'll have secure storage for your booze and or handguns.
Thanks for watching, I ended up opening the safe again and was able to figure out the combo and put it back together as well. Now I have a working safe again! ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
It is sad that such a beautiful old safe had to be destroyed when a call to a competent locksmith could have had it opened within an hour with no damage. The treasure would have been the same, and a good, usable safe would have been preserved. This makes me sad.
While I did cut into the safe, I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
No... gee do your homework. The stuff is gypsum. Mix powder w water and pour between walls. The gypsum vaporizes as steam to keep paper below 350 F char point. Just like modern gyprock.
Hmm, I don't think so. Cut the safe, find nothing, then give a cut (pause), and then find the rings ??? I find it very strange. I'm sorry about the safe, it had the biggest price. approx. CZK 50,000. Next time call the locksmith ... :-))) Hello Česká republika
My grandfather was a safecracker & knew how to open those old safes without drilling or locksmiths very quickly.lol He could have opened & closed it leaving the safe in perfect condition.lol I expect there are still a few of those old timers alive somewhere.
The safe I did was from 1873 and had a 5.5" layer of concrete with no wood inside. We knew there was $20k in cash inside so when cutting the inside layer just score it with the grinder until it turns blue and use a chisel to break the score line so you don't burn up money. Got be careful when you know something is in there. The 100 plus old coins we sold online but a little fire wouldn't have hurt them.
You should have gone in from the back. I did a safe years ago. asked a lock company about inside dimensions and they told me the size. I used that size to cut through back and inside steel plate. I was able to remove contents, take rear plate off the door, remove lock and with that figure out the combination. Repaired cuts, placed new concrete in wall and then placed a larger plate over rear hole to seal it. Painted it, door was open now so repaired and replaced lock, Figured out combination both to left and right. Now I have a good safe to store collectibles.
Yeah, after this first safe, that's probably the way I'd cut into it it in the future. The reason I didn't with this safe was there was an additional horizontal support on the back that wasn't there on the sides. Sides seemed like much easier cutting.
The hospital had a large safe they had us remove from a office. No one knew the combination. I picked it in about 5 minutes. They put new locks in nursery and I picked one in 45 seconds. The store I also worked at had a double key cut lock in the back room I picked in a couple of minutes. I probably was a locksmith or safe cracker in a past life.
You better take a piece of the 'cement' inside that safe to be tested for asbestos. If it contains asbestos, you should have that whole workshop professionally cleaned of all the dust.
Nonsense. Although asbestos should not be inhaled it would take years of exposure to maybe damage lungs and body and even that some have never been harmed from years of exposure. My dad worked with asbestos in the 60's and 70's for nearly two decades and just passed at 102. Never had any health problems and smoked his entire life and saw a doctor three times during his lifetime.
Their is a video on you tube on how to get into that kind of straight tail piece lock with no damage using a magnetic dial ring indicator a longer handle connected to the front left wheel with a Bungie cord and he was able to decode the lock with no damage. So because the new owner of the safe doesn't know how to do it the skilled way. Or pay a safe technician the safe becomes unsafe by cutting it up. Not the best choice in my opinion.
If you will remove the round plate on back of your safe door there should be two screws holding it on pull it off turn your dial till it stops on one way or the other you should be able to turn your handle and open the door you have to do all of that from the inside of the safe
I also saw where a guy opened a safe with a few magnets. He said only 3 are needed because 3 deadbolts are usually what locks it. Once you get in, you haven't destroyed it and sell or use it.
As I mentioned in the video, I did call local locksmith, was quoted $250 to open the safe, it wasn't worth it to me. I repaired the safe and use it as an end table, doesn't matter if it opens for my use.
My buddy and I found a large heavy safe next to a dumpster behind some strip stores that had closed. Luckily the safe door was left opened. Not familiar with safes I removed the back Plate and was able to figure out the combination. Great free safe.
Nice find! I actually did another video where I cut back into the safe to expose the lock. Like you, I was able to find the combo, repaired the safe, and now have a great cheap safe! ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
Worked in Law Enforcement, years ago received a call from an older gentlemen. He stated he was at work but his neighbor called him and stated he could see his 30 yr old son in the garage trying to break into his safe. This gentleman was concerned because he had guns in the safe and his son was suicidal. ( He wasn't, he was a heroin addict looking for cash.) The son used (attempted, he wasn't bright) an oxyacetylene torch to cut several holes in the safe. This gentleman had a collection of old flint lock rifles worth a decent amount, oh and his collect of vhs porn tapes on the top shelf. The tapes melted onto the guns and the stocks looked like charcoal. 😂
Fun to watch, man. Like you said, everyone’s a critic on the internet. The silver and gold were both great finds, but in today’s market, the real value is in those .22s! LOL
Get it hot enough and those .22s would have livened up your day. Someone around here tried cutting open a safe with torches. Not sure what was in it bur it didn't end well. They didn't find much of him.
No... they don't. Old fire safe for document storage. The gyprock between thin steel dead giveaway. Probably no relocker either. And likely 3 wheel lock. Easy for professional to open. Repair if required. And hand you a new combination and working safe. Dumb hillbilly!
Ouch sad to see the safe destroyed like that. I have found safe cracking videos on UA-cam and wonder if you would have had success trying that first. Glad you got some treasure from your auction win though.
Not being a professional lock picker, manipulating a safe is not something any joe blow off the street can do. While I did cut into the safe, I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
That was fun! Thanks! And breaking into the safe is WAY more fun than getting a locksmsith to open it. What's the fun in that? That's NOT a "collector" safe, or a vintage safe, or anything other than just your run of the mill older safe. Probably worth less than the gold you got from it. Good on ya!
@@chrisedwards356 yes sir you are correct. just sayin.... there is a massive difference from breathing some in to working in blast furnaces for 30 years in the 50's 60's 70's and 80's. my dad is 73 and healthy. genetics plays huge with cancer.
@@roofieandraggy16 You are correct! Genetics IS the determining factor on who gets cancer and who doesn't. Check your family tree to identify who died of cancer and what type to know your fate
Why the heck cut open the side instead of going through the door? Just saw the locksmith's comment and I agree with him. You would have preserved the boxes, etc. Plus, the safe could have been valuable especially to a collector.
The doors are usually the most dense and difficult to go through, especially with safes meant to be embedded in walls. Going at the side is generally easier.
These old safes have a one through 100 tumbler. NO NEED AT ALL FOR CUTTING OR GRINDING! The specs are the same for many years. All the brass is set at 45 degree angles--so all combinations fall at a"X" of 45 degrees. Simply enlarge or minimize a compass 360 degree to cover that 1 thru 100 tumbler--then you will see the only combinations possible. The rest is simple spinning with various left right till you get it open. Opened an ATM safe in a safe company's store in less than two minutes.
The joy of cracking the safe would have been a thousand times better than the destruction I sadly just watched. Refinement is lost and that is the death of a wonderful antique.
Well I have to disagree, I had a lot of fun breaking into the safe and then had a good time putting it back together. Without extensive training, the only way to break in would involve trying thousands of combinations and hoping you get close enough to get the tumblers to line up... Not the way I want to spend my time though.
I actually found an envelope with a combination inside, but when I finally figured out the combo, it didn't match up. This came out of a trinket type shop, so my guess is, an employee got pissed, changed the combo and locked the owners out. Just a guess though...
These safes often had the combinations entered in the reverse rotation making it necessary to turn the dial in the opposite direction after dialing to the last zero. even if you dialed the combination correctly, instead of dialing past zero you would have to stop and reverse direction to retract the bolt.
Well, you have found yourself a new occupation: "Second Story Man". For sure, you have a knack for opening safes. Going in from the side. Never thought of that. Seems a zero sum game though: Cost of safe, time spent fooling about, and nothing to show for it. Ah, what the Hell, gotta learn somewhere. Good luck on your new profession. You'll be a rich man soon.
Not in my area, went to an estate sale recently, very similar safe except in much better condition (still had gold pinstriping) with the combo sold for $350.
Before you talk, check marketplace and auctions, safes aren’t that expensive. Look at my videos, they aren’t click bate, your comments expose that you have no idea what you are talking about!
Well I assumed that the door was the strongest point. I cut through the side because it was flat and had the largest surface area without the thicker support of the corners and edges. Back had an extra horizontal bar s as t the mid line, but you know all of this because you’ve done this before!
Try looking at my other videos!!!! You are an entitled idiot who feels that an internet connection gives you a voice! Just some words of advice that you can expand to anything you have an opinion on. Stick to what you have actually done before trying to claim to be an armchair expert! Any commentary I can have with you benefits no one because I might as well be talking to a bag of potatoes. That bag of potatoes would have just as much experience as you in breaking into a locked safe!
I actually cut into the safe again and repaired it as well. Jump to the 20 minute mark and you can see the working repaired safe: ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
You cannot feel the lever drop into the gates, or hear them. Thats only in the movies. there are three or four brass plates with slots, and all the plates are in a different place. Until all plates are lined up the lever will not drop into place. The plates revolve freely on a shaft and cannot be heard.
Unfortunately I believe that safe is one that has asbestos in the walls and door. Something that was used for fire proofing for many years in safe walls, & safe doors & security cabinets so many people don't even know.
Holy speaker warning batman!! I had to turn my sound almost all the way up to hear the voice talking in the beginning of the video, then the angle grinder kicks in after a few minutes and damn near blows my windows out lol
Need to be careful with old safes. Some made in the 1800's were booby trapped with cyanide capsules that would break if you attempted to drill or peel the safe. Some had sheets of glass in them that would break and jam the mechanism if drilling was attempted.
Having watched the video while also listening to what is being said in the video I have come to understand the following 1. The cost of picking the lock wasn’t worth it when you factor in you were repurposing the safe 2. The damage to the safe can be welded and painted and will not effect the new functionality of the safe 3. Safe is now a side table What I learned in the comments section people complain a lot about free content. Be an active participant in your life and change the video if you are unhappy with the content.
Elvis Presley was also condemned for buying friends and relatives new cadillacs, watches, and jewelry...everyone said he was just throwing away his money and he'll be broke in no time but, he gets the last laugh because he has made MORE money since he died than we'll make in 2 lifetimes... if it's his he can do whatever the hell he wants to with it !!!!!
@@sonacphotos most definitely a combination of asbestos and concrete or gypsum. They used asbestos in everything back then. Oven mitts, hair dryers, plaster, floor tiles, house siding, break pads and break linings... the list could go on forever. And don't think if its not super old its free of the shit, they only got really tough with it's use in the late 70s early 80s and as late as the early 90's. They still use it to an extent, they just don't call it asbestos.
I went through the side because the back had an extra horizontal steel support, but that would work too. Got another video coming up where I get the door open.
It's insane to me that you would spend so much of your time destroying a perfectly good antique safe! When you could have paid a locksmith $300, saved your time, and had a perfectly functional antique safe at the end!
I'm a real safecracker. Been doing it for 35 years. Such a sad thing to see someone destroy a nice piece of history. All for show.
For a real safecracker it could have been opened by a technique called manipulation or at least with a 1/'8" hole. Then a tiny repair and you could still use it. This is one of those "hold my beer" moments.
If I had 35 years of safecracking experience, well sure I would have just opened the door. As I said in the video, local locksmith wanted $250 to unlock the safe. Safe in that condition with a combo is not worth much more than $250 around here. It didn't make financial sense to pay to have it opened. I repaired and painted the safe and now use it as an end table in my house. Also sold the rings for almost $900.
@@hooterspfld I would like to see how the repairs look on that... that's a major repair to have to do.
@@zragevii4705 ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html cut to 19:45 if you don't want to watch it all.
Do you work in Arizona? I need help
That type should be a "fairly easy" to manipulate, with the dial intended for normal access.
Reminds me of when Geraldo Rivera opened Capone's vault.
well congrats you just destroyed a$300 safe!! How do I know this cause I had one exactly like that one and sold it for that price. in good working condition it worth about $600-$700 retail. you should have waited and pay a lock smith to open it with much less damage
Agree hate it when people destroy stuff when simple knewledge can save these objects
@@glennwall552 well said Glenn,
People don’t realise, that safe
Engineering is a trade, Just like any other….
If he bought it for $65, its a $65 safe…
@@MAXREZNIK just because he bought it for 65 doesn't mean thats what its worth. reread my comment, i sold one exactly like that one for $300, its not a common safe.
@@thomasloanwolf to him it’s worth $65 though cuz thats what he paid for it, if you wanna get nitpicky tho a million views on a video with 5 mid rolls is worth at least a few grand so this is arguably the most profitable outcome
so sad to see that safe damaged so badly. the Locksmith would have opened it with only a 1/4 inch to 5/16 hole and repair would have been silly easy. I have worked for 27 years as a locksmith / safe tech. this seriously hurts to watch.
Just got done telling him the same thing lol. One locksmith to the other!! Gotta love the ones that try to break into them and hit the tear gas lmao. Too bad to ruin a nice antique safe. He could have had it with a new working combination!!
i didn't watch it, rubbish
One man's trash is another man's treasure. This is pretty mild by UA-cam standards, considering I have seen people destroy perfectly good and brand new airplanes, supercars, and high-end electronics.
This thing was scrap metal to all but like 15 people in the world.
Where would that hole be at roughly? and how would you repair it? I have a cast iron Cincinnati safe and lock Co. Safe. I am looking to repair one that was broken into years ago and I am trying to see what I will need to Replace.
@@zragevii4705 I'll have to go thru my storage to find my books. I'll let you know. Also any locksmith that deals in safes would be a better deal. Unfortunately some safes are labor intensive and usually the charges are per hour and any supplies used.
could have just asked Lockpicking lawyer to open it in a second without inhaling asbestos!
It’s true. Great minds think alike!
I have never seen a man more accomplished with his hands on the tools. There were times that I thought "will this work, hmmm". I was in construction for 10 yrs., and loved it. I really loved your video. You kept my attention, and your voice is easy to listen too.
Wow, very kind words, thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
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Sometimes the safe is more valuable than the contents. Case in point I had a friend that destroyed a safe to see whats inside only to find out at a later date the safe was valued at 50,000 dollars as it was quite a old valuable collectible.
That’s poetry
My friend says that your friend doesn't exist.
@@BillOweninOttawa Yup and he cried BS🤣
We received a safe like this, my youngest son oened it from the bottom, without damaging the lock and facade. The safe is back to function and looks as new.
Nice, I ended up opening the safe again and was able to figure out the combo and put it back together as well. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
Now that the safe is completely trashed. I would have paid the $250 bucks. Could have sold the safe for at least $500.00. you've got a boat anchor now. Thanks for the show though👍😊
Great ability to be able to the heart beat uncovering what could be in there. Also the concept for furniture or a conversation piece. You will profit i am confident. Onward 🌈
As a locksmith, going through the front door on that particular safe would have been much easier, and also give you access to any other compartments you may have missed on the other side of that dividing wall.
The fire retarding material used within the safe walls is called, "gypsum". Though it's thicker, and lacks the paper, it's very similar to drywall.
Well said!! I'd pay 250 for a locksmith....ruined an nice safe!!
As an apprentice I assisted my employer with opening several safes. We did one in that was left in a house that had been used as the town office while the town hall was being built in the 1800's. We struggled with it for some time until realizing there was a 4th wheel...
Why not just pick the lock?
@@johnb4183 usually the dial gets taken off and a small hole is drilled into the dial pack. Then a scope is inserted so you can view the gates in the wheels as you line them up. Once all the gates are lined up in the proper spot, the fence drops in and voila. Its a little more involved than that, and it all hinges on finding the right spot to drill so you don't trip the relocker.
Literally 10 minutes to open that safe from the front been there done that of a credit union safe
With the serial number, you can get the combination list.
These safes had a list of about 100 combinations that were used when they were manufactured
The lists may even be online.
Rather than wreck it
Most people would not know how to change the combination and would not pay for it, so it most likely has the original factory combination
These types of safes weren't shipped with a set combination. On the ones that are, they will only give it to a certified safe tech.
You could remove the inside cover on the door and set your own combination.
...WE'LL NEVER KNOW-!!!!
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Next time please wear a hepa filtered mask. Old
stuff tends to be made with asbestos materials for their thermal insulating properties
sometimes its mixed with cement. Good Vid!
Asbestos test results are in: ua-cam.com/video/Trf4CelSTjE/v-deo.html
Those safes were good for small operations and would deter thieves because they took a while to get into, most don't want to spend much time inside a house or business they are burgling. You coulkd wheel it out but hoisting it into a trunk would take some effort.
I had that same safe on a radio site in Korea, we kept the morphine and code books in it. One day we were told the combination should be changed so I took the panel off the rear of the 2-1/2 " thick door and found instructions on haw to change the combo. back in the civilian world we had that safes big brother in the front office for petty cash and Orisene (used for gold plating) and petty cash. The owner mentioned that the combo was known to former employees and sb changed, I told him I had done so in the army and he asked me to do it again. i reset the combo and explained to him how to change it so he could set his own combo. I told him to be very sure everything was tight when he finished and to be doubly sure he wrote the new combo down and that it worked BEFORE locking the safe.
Funny thing is a few years later my old landlord told me to take anything I wanted as they were selling the house and he told be the combo to the safe in the cellar. That safe had been in his dads business since the early 1900's.40+ years later I have that old Hall safe in the corner of my dining room, it holds that corner of the house down quite well and it also doubles as a stand for my laser printer.. i keep some papers in there and have a record of the combo.
That's so true. Even a cheap $99 gun safe can be very difficult for most amateur burglars and you can bolt them into a corner where they're virtually impossible to break open without power tools. In my area we don't have thieves who are that ambitious. They're always hit and run taking only those things that are easy to steal.
This should have been a 5 minuet video, locksmith in safe contents in and out in less 5 mins made a pigs ear of that safe, just dragging the vid out for as long as he can.
The Property Crimes unit was charged with the responsibility of opening safes that were found and locked. Usually a locksmith was contracted. I only observed two opened. The first was filled with dirty water and the second had a 1958 ticket to a Chicago White Sox ball game.
Sox ticket worthless
Just about killed me watching you destroy that safe!
Maybe keep away from kids
Well built safe better than mine I would have call the locksmith in then you have the combination
It's unfortunate that you had to cut open a very well made fireproof safe like this.
I think if you try to manipulate the dial with the right tools you can at least have a 50/50chance to open it . It might take a whole week , but in my opinion it's worth the try . Because well made classic safes could increase in value just like classic cars .
Btw I'm a professional locksmith and just subscribed to your interesting channel.
Yeah without knowing much about the locks themselves its hard to know what your working with. I had fun shooting the videos and figuring out how these old safes work. I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
WOW! So weird to watch a person destroy a safe the hard way. I cut a hole next to the lock and got in that way. Welded the front back and used the bolts on the back of the door to replace the lock, less than fifty for a safe I used for 30 years.
Did you turn the wallet into the police.....
Might belong to a missing person
mine was drilled and just needs a lock replaced. Getting it free so it's definitely worth the trouble.
@@deniseculver4375 What are you even talking about? He opened a safe, not a wallet. Wallets are much easier to grind and drill open.
I have that exact same safe. My dad accidentally put the combination inside the safe so we wouldn't lose it and we forgot it LOL. We called a locksmith he charged us $45. It's so heavy nobody's going to steal it unless they have a loader tractor or a tow truck
Sounds like a laurel and hardy episode.I told you to put the combination in a safe place . I'm sorry Ollie,
Should have paid a locksmith, that's what I did and they even made it to where I can use the combo to open it. Now it is useful 👍
Learn to open these thing, then you can sell then on.
yes exactly ... back to full operation and still has not destroyed the fire protection of the safe
You could play drums with the Beatles now.
Lol. I just got done telling him the same thing. He ruined a nice antique
Completely irresponsible to ruin that safe .
Nice score ,hope you can make some good cash on the rings. I worked with a old timer he was a engineer when he was in the army in World War II. He said they found a big safe ,it took him all day to get it open. Only to find nothing inside.
Thanks Joe! I actually did pretty good on the rings, took them to a shop and was offered $395 I think. Took them home and used a gold testing kit, was actually $800 worth of gold. I sold them to my aunt who is a jeweler and she just paid me the actual melt value.
I can not believe that this old safe was destroyed like this. Things are not make like this any longer, so if everyone destroys them. They will all at some point just disappear, and the next generations will never get to know what was done back in the time of all of their grandparents. I bet that if you would have opened it by a locksmith, that you could have had the combo changed, and sold it for about 500 easy. An you only called one locksmith, that something that you should have called more then one. I had a safe that I could not get open, and I called three or four and the price of opening had a wide range.
Might be interesting to find out if that old concrete had asbestos in it for the fire retardant... a little late now but just for your future health, it would be good to know. Good luck.
That was my first thought too. As if anyone could go out and buy a safe with unknown contents, obviously cheap items planted like some of those videos from a lost property suitcase or locker, should we tell him the combination?
Thanks for the interest! Yeah there's been a lot of concern on that, so I made a video: ua-cam.com/video/Trf4CelSTjE/v-deo.html
I would almost guarantee a 100 year old safe has asbestos as a fire proofing. Hell they used that shit for everything up to the 70s
@@2barrell Thus my comment and concerns...
@@hooterspfld BUY A GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE Don't forget asbestos can show up in anything from 10 to 50 years good LUCK i think you need it
Put a light inside and with a mirror you should be able to see to unlock the door from the inside. Set a new combo and after repairing the wall you'll have secure storage for your booze and or handguns.
I know nothing about locks, but OUCH! OUCH! to see this fine old piece torn to pieces.
Thanks for watching, I ended up opening the safe again and was able to figure out the combo and put it back together as well. Now I have a working safe again! ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
It is sad that such a beautiful old safe had to be destroyed when a call to a competent locksmith could have had it opened within an hour with no damage. The treasure would have been the same, and a good, usable safe would have been preserved. This makes me sad.
While I did cut into the safe, I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
Go cry me a river
The outer insulating (fire proof) wall was likely full of asbestos.
He kept trying to tell me it isn't until I told him off
Asbestos test results are in: ua-cam.com/video/Trf4CelSTjE/v-deo.html
@@plumbcrazy375 What a badass!
No... gee do your homework. The stuff is gypsum. Mix powder w water and pour between walls. The gypsum vaporizes as steam to keep paper below 350 F char point. Just like modern gyprock.
Hmm, I don't think so. Cut the safe, find nothing, then give a cut (pause), and then find the rings ??? I find it very strange. I'm sorry about the safe, it had the biggest price. approx. CZK 50,000. Next time call the locksmith ... :-))) Hello Česká republika
My grandfather was a safecracker & knew how to open those old safes without drilling or locksmiths very quickly.lol He could have opened & closed it leaving the safe in perfect condition.lol I expect there are still a few of those old timers alive somewhere.
The sweet smell of asbestos.
I saw that.....and no face mask and no ear plugs. He needs to do an health update in a dozen years from now
HAHA! I laughed too hard at this. It can cause cancer 😟😢😞
I was coming to the comment section to say something very similar... then I saw your comment
@@skyflyer4231 asbestos is nothing to do with cocaine.
@@CorrineCraig actually is causes asbestosis. Also a horrible disease.
The safe I did was from 1873 and had a 5.5" layer of concrete with no wood inside. We knew there was $20k in cash inside so when cutting the inside layer just score it with the grinder until it turns blue and use a chisel to break the score line so you don't burn up money. Got be careful when you know something is in there. The 100 plus old coins we sold online but a little fire wouldn't have hurt them.
Hope there isn't a market for old safes. Would be a real bummer if the safe itself was worth more than the contents.
You should have gone in from the back. I did a safe years ago. asked a lock company about inside dimensions and they told me the size. I used that size to cut through back and inside steel plate. I was able to remove contents, take rear plate off the door, remove lock and with that figure out the combination. Repaired cuts, placed new concrete in wall and then placed a larger plate over rear hole to seal it. Painted it, door was open now so repaired and replaced lock, Figured out combination both to left and right. Now I have a good safe to store collectibles.
Yeah, after this first safe, that's probably the way I'd cut into it it in the future. The reason I didn't with this safe was there was an additional horizontal support on the back that wasn't there on the sides. Sides seemed like much easier cutting.
Ah yes the "antique" Nike ring from the early 1990s...quite a rare and remarkable find
Was this Jordan's missing safe?
The hospital had a large safe they had us remove from a office. No one knew the combination. I picked it in about 5 minutes. They put new locks in nursery and I picked one in 45 seconds. The store I also worked at had a double key cut lock in the back room I picked in a couple of minutes. I probably was a locksmith or safe cracker in a past life.
Lol, you might look into it. Locksmiths in my area quoted me $250 and higher just to drill it.
You better take a piece of the 'cement' inside that safe to be tested for asbestos. If it contains asbestos, you should have that whole workshop professionally cleaned of all the dust.
This is great advice at least you'll know how long you're going to live and if you've damaged your children's lungs as well
Nonsense. Although asbestos should not be inhaled it would take years of exposure to maybe damage lungs and body and even that some have never been harmed from years of exposure. My dad worked with asbestos in the 60's and 70's for nearly two decades and just passed at 102. Never had any health problems and smoked his entire life and saw a doctor three times during his lifetime.
@@davidburkholder7360 bullshit!!
My dad worked around it and it killed him! Dick head! That was after he had one lung removed then he died!
@@davidburkholder7360 Some people have died from a single exposure.
Asbestos test results are in: ua-cam.com/video/Trf4CelSTjE/v-deo.html
Their is a video on you tube on how to get into that kind of straight tail piece lock with no damage using a magnetic dial ring indicator a longer handle connected to the front left wheel with a Bungie cord and he was able to decode the lock with no damage. So because the new owner of the safe doesn't know how to do it the skilled way. Or pay a safe technician the safe becomes unsafe by cutting it up. Not the best choice in my opinion.
Exactly like the entire Oak Island series! A whole lot of nothing
How can u say that! They found an old coin once😂
Bahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah!
🤣🤣🤣true
Don't forget the iron cross....🤣
Lmao so true
If you will remove the round plate on back of your safe door there should be two screws holding it on pull it off turn your dial till it stops on one way or the other you should be able to turn your handle and open the door you have to do all of that from the inside of the safe
What a waste of a good safe! I would of found some one to open it the right way!
How ? I bought a 110 year old house with this safe in the basement
@@danielmankinde1706 There's videos here..
@@danielmankinde1706 : Search youtube. It's not difficult. Good luck. Or call a locksmith.
Check those coins.people don't keep loose change in a safe unless there is something special about them.
The contents are so wholesome, the family memories are the real treasure
I know who is the people in the album book the safe was stolen from me and the family in 2010 and a lot more also
@@chrisdixon2498is this true?
I also saw where a guy opened a safe with a few magnets. He said only 3 are needed because 3 deadbolts are usually what locks it. Once you get in, you haven't destroyed it and sell or use it.
Asbestos in fire lining for sure! Destroyed good old safe that could have been opened by competent locksmith for 80-120 bucks!
As I mentioned in the video, I did call local locksmith, was quoted $250 to open the safe, it wasn't worth it to me. I repaired the safe and use it as an end table, doesn't matter if it opens for my use.
So fun.
😁👋👍👏🙏
I would have been so excited to find gold and silver, along with a few coins as you did. Congratulations.
Thanks I had fun finding them as well. Didn't make me rich, but did give me a bit of excitement!
@@hooterspfld me tooi
I am sure there was asbestos in that fireproofing. Hope you did not breath any of that in.
Unbelievable how many stupid people cut these open without a mask pure madness
He most definitely did!!! That’s most likely why he hasn’t responded to any comments. He realizes he was/is an idiot
My buddy and I found a large heavy safe next to a dumpster behind some strip stores that had closed. Luckily the safe door was left opened. Not familiar with safes I removed the back Plate and was able to figure out the combination. Great free safe.
Nice find! I actually did another video where I cut back into the safe to expose the lock. Like you, I was able to find the combo, repaired the safe, and now have a great cheap safe! ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
Worked in Law Enforcement, years ago received a call from an older gentlemen. He stated he was at work but his neighbor called him and stated he could see his 30 yr old son in the garage trying to break into his safe. This gentleman was concerned because he had guns in the safe and his son was suicidal. ( He wasn't, he was a heroin addict looking for cash.) The son used (attempted, he wasn't bright) an oxyacetylene torch to cut several holes in the safe. This gentleman had a collection of old flint lock rifles worth a decent amount, oh and his collect of vhs porn tapes on the top shelf. The tapes melted onto the guns and the stocks looked like charcoal. 😂
The unknown is the chase of hitting it big. Great job
Thanks for the kind words!
Fun to watch, man. Like you said, everyone’s a critic on the internet. The silver and gold were both great finds, but in today’s market, the real value is in those .22s! LOL
Lol wish I had stocked up on 2x4's, $7.99 at my local big box!!!
@@hooterspfld a new phone
Get it hot enough and those .22s would have livened up your day. Someone around here tried cutting open a safe with torches. Not sure what was in it bur it didn't end well. They didn't find much of him.
Those old safes often have shotgun shells embedded in the sides to give anyone grinding into them a suprise .
No... they don't. Old fire safe for document storage. The gyprock between thin steel dead giveaway. Probably no relocker either. And likely 3 wheel lock. Easy for professional to open. Repair if required. And hand you a new combination and working safe. Dumb hillbilly!
Interesting. You might want to check those Wills to see if any of that jewellery is willed to someone.
the safe is more valuable than the contents. good work
You'd be surprised, safe's in much better condition with the combination can be found in my area for $300 all day long.
Other side of the safe is a note: 32, 65, 21...
It's a good idea to cut the side open at least you still have a good looking safe from the from , choose what you decide to use it for .
Right or wrong, those were my thoughts as well!
Ouch sad to see the safe destroyed like that. I have found safe cracking videos on UA-cam and wonder if you would have had success trying that first. Glad you got some treasure from your auction win though.
Not being a professional lock picker, manipulating a safe is not something any joe blow off the street can do. While I did cut into the safe, I also patched it up as well. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, just skip to the 20 minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
That was fun! Thanks! And breaking into the safe is WAY more fun than getting a locksmsith to open it. What's the fun in that? That's NOT a "collector" safe, or a vintage safe, or anything other than just your run of the mill older safe. Probably worth less than the gold you got from it. Good on ya!
Thanks for watching! Yeah there were 4 actual gold rings. The Nike ring was the best. It tested out at 16k and weighed 11.3g, or about $450.
You destroyed such an old antique safe that could be worth thousands or even millions or can even be put into a museum
I sure hope he's checked to be sure that fire proofing material is not asbestos.
Too late!! He breathed a good amount in already.
Herbert, nothing to lose. Locksmiths historically, charge $90 just to see the safe in question. But i Do agree it was plain destructive.
Good luck with the asbestos!
short term exposure is pretty much like smoking 1 pack of cigarettes then quitting.
Any exposure to asbestos is too much. If you think otherwise, you have no idea what you're talking about
@@chrisedwards356 yes sir you are correct. just sayin.... there is a massive difference from breathing some in to working in blast furnaces for 30 years in the 50's 60's 70's and 80's. my dad is 73 and healthy. genetics plays huge with cancer.
@@roofieandraggy16 You are correct! Genetics IS the determining factor on who gets cancer and who doesn't. Check your family tree to identify who died of cancer and what type to know your fate
Plywood is not carsiogenic😁
Hey, thanks for posting, it was fun and you are a likeable presenter. Thanks
Thanks for the kind words! I had a great time putting the video together and found a little treasure in the process. Not a bad day!
Why the heck cut open the side instead of going through the door? Just saw the locksmith's comment and I agree with him. You would have preserved the boxes, etc. Plus, the safe could have been valuable especially to a collector.
The doors are usually the most dense and difficult to go through, especially with safes meant to be embedded in walls. Going at the side is generally easier.
@@cakeboss4194 WRONG
These old safes have a one through 100 tumbler. NO NEED AT ALL FOR CUTTING OR GRINDING! The specs are the same for many years. All the brass is set at 45 degree
angles--so all combinations fall at a"X" of 45 degrees. Simply enlarge or minimize a
compass 360 degree to cover that 1 thru 100 tumbler--then you will see the only
combinations possible. The rest is simple spinning with various left right till you
get it open. Opened an ATM safe in a safe company's store in less than two minutes.
Hi possibly that’s asbestos 🥴 if it is, you may want to get your workshop cleaned professionally. At leas get it tested !!!!
It’s not asbestos it’s concrete asbestos is usually an insulator and would be useless to protect a safe but I get the safety measure
@@maxtaylor-knowles9918 could be used for fireproof reasons... feels like back in the day they put some of the stuff everywhere lol
@@hzhang1228 Gypsum is used for fireproofing in most safes. If it were from the 1950's or 60's then it might.
Most likely gypsum
I agree. They put asbestos in nearly everything at one time. Tests are not expensive and would give a lot of of peace of mind.
The joy of cracking the safe would have been a thousand times better than the destruction I sadly just watched. Refinement is lost and that is the death of a wonderful antique.
Well I have to disagree, I had a lot of fun breaking into the safe and then had a good time putting it back together. Without extensive training, the only way to break in would involve trying thousands of combinations and hoping you get close enough to get the tumblers to line up... Not the way I want to spend my time though.
And greed killed the real value! The safe!
My dad has one identical. Took me about 10 minutes to open without the combination.
The treasure is the safe itself.
Correction: The treasure WAS the safe itself!!
When he showed the red book my first thought was, "Cool a book with the combination"! 😊😊
I actually found an envelope with a combination inside, but when I finally figured out the combo, it didn't match up. This came out of a trinket type shop, so my guess is, an employee got pissed, changed the combo and locked the owners out. Just a guess though...
@@hooterspfld You could be right, people do stupid mean things. Fun video though, thanks! Cheers!
The ammo is probably the most valuable thing there. LOL
2 years ago the coins would be worth more,,,,,,,,,,,
These safes often had the combinations entered in the reverse rotation making it necessary to turn the dial in the opposite direction after dialing to the last zero. even if you dialed the combination correctly, instead of dialing past zero you would have to stop and reverse direction to retract the bolt.
Yeah thats the case in this one, you have to go back towards 0 for the bolt to retract.
Do you have problems with impulse control?
Well, you have found yourself a new occupation: "Second Story Man". For sure, you have a knack for opening safes. Going in from the side. Never thought of that. Seems a zero sum game though: Cost of safe, time spent fooling about, and nothing to show for it. Ah, what the Hell, gotta learn somewhere. Good luck on your new profession. You'll be a rich man soon.
The safe was more valuable than the content, now it is worth nothing after drilling a hole
Not in my area, went to an estate sale recently, very similar safe except in much better condition (still had gold pinstriping) with the combo sold for $350.
I was thinking the same thing.could of got a lock Smith and saved it .Dumb ass!
Before you talk, check marketplace and auctions, safes aren’t that expensive. Look at my videos, they aren’t click bate, your comments expose that you have no idea what you are talking about!
Well I assumed that the door was the strongest point. I cut through the side because it was flat and had the largest surface area without the thicker support of the corners and edges. Back had an extra horizontal bar s as t the mid line, but you know all of this because you’ve done this before!
Try looking at my other videos!!!! You are an entitled idiot who feels that an internet connection gives you a voice! Just some words of advice that you can expand to anything you have an opinion on. Stick to what you have actually done before trying to claim to be an armchair expert! Any commentary I can have with you benefits no one because I might as well be talking to a bag of potatoes. That bag of potatoes would have just as much experience as you in breaking into a locked safe!
I hope the safe doesn't have asbestos in it. Some manufacturers used it for fire suppression.
I would have brought in a lock Smith then you could have sold the safe
"Ill weld it up and you won't even know I was in it" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I actually cut into the safe again and repaired it as well. Jump to the 20 minute mark and you can see the working repaired safe: ua-cam.com/video/qYYdVo22NzM/v-deo.html
Should have dialed it open. That safe is old enough to feel the fence lever trying to drop in the tumbler gates.
You cannot feel the lever drop into the gates, or hear them. Thats only in the movies. there are three or four brass plates with slots, and all the plates are in a different place. Until all plates are lined up the lever will not drop into place. The plates revolve freely on a shaft and cannot be heard.
Unfortunately I believe that safe is one that has asbestos in the walls and door. Something that was used for fire proofing for many years in safe walls, & safe doors & security cabinets so many people don't even know.
Yeah there has been a lot of concern on that, so I made a video: ua-cam.com/video/Trf4CelSTjE/v-deo.html
All that anticipation for bad video quality when you found the jewelry 😂😂😂
Thanks for watching the video, hopefully my next one will be more to your liking.
Holy speaker warning batman!! I had to turn my sound almost all the way up to hear the voice talking in the beginning of the video, then the angle grinder kicks in after a few minutes and damn near blows my windows out lol
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The moment your wife watches your UA-cam video and finds out you’ve been playing around all day
Hahahahaha
Need to be careful with old safes. Some made in the 1800's were booby trapped with cyanide capsules that would break if you attempted to drill or peel the safe. Some had sheets of glass in them that would break and jam the mechanism if drilling was attempted.
Darwin award for the asbestos
If you remove the combination dial you can line up the tumblers and it will open
Sure it does, Baby-face
Having watched the video while also listening to what is being said in the video I have come to understand the following 1. The cost of picking the lock wasn’t worth it when you factor in you were repurposing the safe 2. The damage to the safe can be welded and painted and will not effect the new functionality of the safe 3. Safe is now a side table
What I learned in the comments section people complain a lot about free content. Be an active participant in your life and change the video if you are unhappy with the content.
Thanks for watching! I had fun with it and thought others might as well. Course everyone's a critic on the internet:)
One million upfists
Elvis Presley was also condemned for buying friends and relatives new cadillacs, watches, and jewelry...everyone said he was just throwing away his money and he'll be broke in no time but, he gets the last laugh because he has made MORE money since he died than we'll make in 2 lifetimes... if it's his he can do whatever the hell he wants to with it !!!!!
As a butcher of machines I would have put a bigger hole in the side and put a door on it. Perfect for a silly end of couch table/cupboard.
One of the WORST videos on so many levels I have EVER partially watched!
That old antique safe was pretty cool.. It would have been worth paying for the locksmith to open it. I bet you could have sold it for 3x the price.
The real treasure was the safe itself.
was
lol "This top locking drawer is extra secure, so it's where I'll keep my gold jewelry!
And also this penny and some matches."
yeah, it was a bit random, thanks for watching!
In your next video you will be explaining how you ended up with Asbestos fibres in your lungs
The old ones are lined with a plaster mix
@@scrappydoo7887 a majority of them had asbestos mixed into the cement/plaster. They used that shit in everything back in the day.
It might be old enough to be pre asbestos.
@@MrJimbaloid it looks like it will be
@@scrappydoo7887 you can sugarcoat it however you want its 95% asbestos
seeing old equipment in person, smacking, drilling, cutting ... when i can personally i enjoy it
Definitely asbestos!!😳😳
Well it could be any combination of gypsum, concrete and asbestos. I will always be safe since it's an older safe and can't be 100% sure.
@@sonacphotos most definitely a combination of asbestos and concrete or gypsum. They used asbestos in everything back then. Oven mitts, hair dryers, plaster, floor tiles, house siding, break pads and break linings... the list could go on forever. And don't think if its not super old its free of the shit, they only got really tough with it's use in the late 70s early 80s and as late as the early 90's. They still use it to an extent, they just don't call it asbestos.
watched the whole video! Loved it, hoped you would've found something, was actually rooting for you!
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
that was a nice safe
Looks like a military field safe. Go through te back, open the door from the back and it's repairable...
I went through the side because the back had an extra horizontal steel support, but that would work too. Got another video coming up where I get the door open.
"You were only supposed to grind the bloody side off!"
It's insane to me that you would spend so much of your time destroying a perfectly good antique safe! When you could have paid a locksmith $300, saved your time, and had a perfectly functional antique safe at the end!