I really appreciate the content you put out. I know it's a lot of hard work. The Victor video was goated. I can't wait to see more like it. Gooooo Mariners!!!
@@benscho267 Another correction: Simon says that Kevin Nash hadn't been seen in WWE since 2004. Actually, Kev was in the 2011 Royal Rumble, as Diesel. He only lasted 2.46 before being eliminated (by Wade Barrett), but that was longer than Kane and the Big Show, nearly as long as those two combined. (Nash's previous appearance as "Kevin Nash" was at Summerslam 2003, in the Elimination Chamber match. So he left after a "WTF is Triple H winning this for?" match, and he returned for a Trips-screws-Punk angle. Plus ça change, plus ça meme chose…
Also in regards to the first match, that's not how gold records work. Receiving a good record means that your record sold X number of copies (i believe it's 500k) so does that imply that WCW promised to go out and buy up to 500,000 physical copies of the winner's album? If they followed through on this legally binding contract what did they do with all of those CDs, Cassettes, and possibly even vinyl records?
Lose a match and lose your motivation... come back and get in shape, be champ. Bobby Lashley was watching Rocky 3. And of course, Vince Mcmahon has never watched a Rocky movie has he?
Seth failed as a babyface in 2019 for 2 reasons. 1. They decided to book him against WWE’s most interesting character in YEARS which also happened to be the IWC-beloved Bray Wyatt. 2. This was around the time where Seth had that Twitter spat with Will Ospreay where he brought up how he makes more money than Will.
I don't know how accurate Bully Day's claim is that he told Vince he should make Roman a heel but if it is true, thank God he did because Roman becoming the tribal chief was brilliant and even though I was annoyed for how long he held the title for, the pay off was worth it.
Vince did Mox so bad at the end. Wonder why he’s never even thought of going back. Literally turned him heel on one of his best friends and then tried to run his name into the dirt. Ffs.
I'm new to watching wrestling - started in 1981 - and bad booking has been the bane of every company through all times. I mean TNA started with a midget pleasuring himself in a rubbish bin. In current product AEW has the Jericho Vortex. WWE has the way the women are booked (I also thought the Bloodline story was dull). The whole Attitude Era sucked. WCW from nWo's Uncensored PPV (that's when they started to drop and nWoverkill started, IMO) became steadily unwatchable. Have you watched ECW TV? Abysmal. ROH was great at first (like, 2000s at first), but now it feels aimless. I know some people like more storylines than wrestling... so why watch a wrestling show? But this is a good list, and there is so much scope for a part 2.
btw, RR didn't click with a lot of fans because WWE was so desperate to get him over after countless failures that they made him USE HIS CANCER to guilt people into feeling sorry for him therefore forcing them to accept him. absolutely disgusting and made me stop watching for years. it's too bad people sell out their own beliefs in order to appear a certain way online. even more disgusting.
It's wrestling, none of the story lines are supposed to make sense. There are many other story lines in the past that didn't make sense but many of us didn't really care, we watched it because it was wrestling! As time went on the fans started picking apart stories and cried like babies about how "they don't make sense, I don't get it" wrestling fans are a majority of the reasons why wrestling became unenjoyable for a few years. All they ever did was complain, cry and b*tch every week.
Willie Hobbs is actually under a gas mask when the "SWAT Team" debuts on December 3, 2018. Not sure if he's back under on December 17th, as well. And it might have been a painful storyline to endure week after week, but taken on their own as clips, the Gas Mask promo is a classic. Awesomely stupid, and Mox actually pretty much explains the turn right there (Rollins is emotionally needy, he only thinks of himself and wants all the glory for himself, and Rollins and Roman were more interested in pandering to the crowd than making The Shield what it was meant to be. Classic heel work.) I grant you this is from my watching wayyyyyyyy after the fact and knowing that Roman was back within 6 months and would soon morph into an annoying perpetual champion who barely wrestled between WM 39 and WM 40, just doing these stupid "Tribal Chief" skits with his smell-the-fart "acting" and this cousin is turning on that cousin blah blah blah get off the fucking stage, but I suppose in 2018 people might have actually been worried about him and thought it was poor taste.
@@watersandblue6001 I mean considering the guy who ran the company for 40 years isn't anywhere near the business anymore and his son-in-law has business booming better than ever, it may as well BE a new WWE. Now, I'm not even anti-AEW, I happen to like quite a bit about it; the problem is the lack of adaptability that TK has shown, and it's starting to hurt the entire company
Did you just ask where they got the forklift from geez man they're in an arena I'm sure trucks get unloaded there all the time they typically use use a forklift to unload said trucks
Simon. I am not watching you on this channel. Your little friends are ------------ 😂 I will only watch you on your own Channel now and I hope others follow suit and watch your channel more then this ragety one 😂
I’m one of the biggest proponents for Vince retiring 20 yrs before he did. That said, I think a big part of the bad booking of Roman Reigns was the fact WWE had no competitors to threaten ratings. AEW sucks but they have definitely contributed to the current success of WWE as no one in WWE wants another 83 weeks.
Why didn't great Khali never win money in the bank or WWE spinner belt? I would love to see Khali carrying Tiffany's briefcase or playing with spinner belt
*Anyone else missing Retro Ups & Downs?* 🥺😭
I really appreciate the content you put out. I know it's a lot of hard work. The Victor video was goated. I can't wait to see more like it. Gooooo Mariners!!!
74 minutes? Man, the algorithm must be unfavorable to the channel at the moment.
One minor correction , C.M. Punk cashed in his first M.I.T.B. contract on Edge not Batista .
Thank you
@@benscho267 Another correction: Simon says that Kevin Nash hadn't been seen in WWE since 2004. Actually, Kev was in the 2011 Royal Rumble, as Diesel. He only lasted 2.46 before being eliminated (by Wade Barrett), but that was longer than Kane and the Big Show, nearly as long as those two combined.
(Nash's previous appearance as "Kevin Nash" was at Summerslam 2003, in the Elimination Chamber match. So he left after a "WTF is Triple H winning this for?" match, and he returned for a Trips-screws-Punk angle. Plus ça change, plus ça meme chose…
I complain about bad booking and find ways to make it better. But making good booking worse sounds like such a fun job!!!
2 videos about New Blood Rising. Simon is definitely traumatized
You need a spit guard 😂😂
Not quite Retro Ups and Downs but still fun to see Simon talk about the old days
Also in regards to the first match, that's not how gold records work. Receiving a good record means that your record sold X number of copies (i believe it's 500k) so does that imply that WCW promised to go out and buy up to 500,000 physical copies of the winner's album? If they followed through on this legally binding contract what did they do with all of those CDs, Cassettes, and possibly even vinyl records?
I like how Simon just does he own videos. You never see him with manic depressive Sidge or Soya Boy Andy Murray.
😂 Amen.
Simon is Neutral on his opinions❤
FACTSl
I only watch Simon videos on this channel.
@@lennyschneider674 Simon has his own channel Simon Miller
@@LadyTreez420 yep. I'm subscribed and when he finally ditches what culture I'll be happy
74? That's 69 with a fist.
Lose a match and lose your motivation... come back and get in shape, be champ. Bobby Lashley was watching Rocky 3. And of course, Vince Mcmahon has never watched a Rocky movie has he?
Seth failed as a babyface in 2019 for 2 reasons.
1. They decided to book him against WWE’s most interesting character in YEARS which also happened to be the IWC-beloved Bray Wyatt.
2. This was around the time where Seth had that Twitter spat with Will Ospreay where he brought up how he makes more money than Will.
Alternate title: 74 Minutes of Why Guys Named Vince Shouldn't Be Involved In Booking Wrestling
I don't know how accurate Bully Day's claim is that he told Vince he should make Roman a heel but if it is true, thank God he did because Roman becoming the tribal chief was brilliant and even though I was annoyed for how long he held the title for, the pay off was worth it.
Vince did Mox so bad at the end. Wonder why he’s never even thought of going back. Literally turned him heel on one of his best friends and then tried to run his name into the dirt. Ffs.
As a kid from Louisiana i loved corporal cajun
Bobby Lashley's Third Sister was 12 Fingers Johnson. Wrestled with Johnny Rodz's World of Unpredictable Wrestling. He has six fingers on each hand.
Vince McMahon understood Bobby Lashley very well. lol
It’s bad booking until this day 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah because you find joy with being miserable.
So basically just an hour plus of Vince Russo? Flub it, let's go!
Vince Russo or when Vince McMahon became Russo.
Vince’s dumbass booking oldberg to beat the Fiend will always be one of the stupidest decisions out.
Uh huh, whatever butterball.
I bet you could make 100 of these with all the booking Vince and Vince did.
The Dog Food Match ≈ The Hog Pen Match ….all great talents doing their best at what’s the worst
Nobody cared how bad those were, they enjoyed them for what they were....unlike younger fans today who just complain no matter what.
I'm new to watching wrestling - started in 1981 - and bad booking has been the bane of every company through all times. I mean TNA started with a midget pleasuring himself in a rubbish bin. In current product AEW has the Jericho Vortex. WWE has the way the women are booked (I also thought the Bloodline story was dull). The whole Attitude Era sucked. WCW from nWo's Uncensored PPV (that's when they started to drop and nWoverkill started, IMO) became steadily unwatchable. Have you watched ECW TV? Abysmal. ROH was great at first (like, 2000s at first), but now it feels aimless. I know some people like more storylines than wrestling... so why watch a wrestling show? But this is a good list, and there is so much scope for a part 2.
The original crime counter started when kanyon kidnapped poor Judith
a Garth Marenghi reference?! ill give that a Golden up!
All of these were caused by the Wizard in the Sky.
that the bloodline is still going on years later, is some of the worst writing ever, explore that
7:51 ok dude breathe… unless you sound like this because you’re sick. In which case feel better my brother in bald
Might want to add Konnan and AAA booking from last night now
btw, RR didn't click with a lot of fans because WWE was so desperate to get him over after countless failures that they made him USE HIS CANCER to guilt people into feeling sorry for him therefore forcing them to accept him. absolutely disgusting and made me stop watching for years. it's too bad people sell out their own beliefs in order to appear a certain way online. even more disgusting.
It's wrestling, none of the story lines are supposed to make sense. There are many other story lines in the past that didn't make sense but many of us didn't really care, we watched it because it was wrestling! As time went on the fans started picking apart stories and cried like babies about how "they don't make sense, I don't get it" wrestling fans are a majority of the reasons why wrestling became unenjoyable for a few years. All they ever did was complain, cry and b*tch every week.
Willie Hobbs is actually under a gas mask when the "SWAT Team" debuts on December 3, 2018. Not sure if he's back under on December 17th, as well.
And it might have been a painful storyline to endure week after week, but taken on their own as clips, the Gas Mask promo is a classic. Awesomely stupid, and Mox actually pretty much explains the turn right there (Rollins is emotionally needy, he only thinks of himself and wants all the glory for himself, and Rollins and Roman were more interested in pandering to the crowd than making The Shield what it was meant to be. Classic heel work.)
I grant you this is from my watching wayyyyyyyy after the fact and knowing that Roman was back within 6 months and would soon morph into an annoying perpetual champion who barely wrestled between WM 39 and WM 40, just doing these stupid "Tribal Chief" skits with his smell-the-fart "acting" and this cousin is turning on that cousin blah blah blah get off the fucking stage, but I suppose in 2018 people might have actually been worried about him and thought it was poor taste.
Tony Khan's booking is ruining AEW.
Yeah, He doesn't know how to book at promotion
The problem with TK is he's completely failed to adapt to the new WWE, and is still trucking along with the same ideas he's had in 2018
@@CasualShowoff there is no new wwe.
@@watersandblue6001 I mean considering the guy who ran the company for 40 years isn't anywhere near the business anymore and his son-in-law has business booming better than ever, it may as well BE a new WWE.
Now, I'm not even anti-AEW, I happen to like quite a bit about it; the problem is the lack of adaptability that TK has shown, and it's starting to hurt the entire company
Did you just ask where they got the forklift from geez man they're in an arena I'm sure trucks get unloaded there all the time they typically use use a forklift to unload said trucks
So excited for this😂😂
Mike Awesome needed a good wise man.
Vince mcmahon was so out of touch in 2019
Punk cashed in on Edge and Jeff Hardy though
Some angles you can do in the future:
Piggy James
Kurt Angle's Illegitimate son
The Lana/Lashley Affair
The Higher Power
Victory Road 2011
CM Punk open flood gates to the Indy Darlings
So is this not essential a retro ups and downs episode?
Simon. I am not watching you on this channel. Your little friends are ------------ 😂 I will only watch you on your own Channel now and I hope others follow suit and watch your channel more then this ragety one 😂
I was saying boourns
nice beard simon.
Vince Russo likes to diss & beat up women. Its all on tape. He writes others to do it, tho.
Simon and to a lesser extent jewels are the only good things what culture has going for them shame such a fall from grace
I’m one of the biggest proponents for Vince retiring 20 yrs before he did. That said, I think a big part of the bad booking of Roman Reigns was the fact WWE had no competitors to threaten ratings. AEW sucks but they have definitely contributed to the current success of WWE as no one in WWE wants another 83 weeks.
Wild
1 hour full of bad booking? Isn't that called WWE?
More AEW as of late
How DARE you criticize the all-powerful WWE!!! Don't you know that Papa H can do no wrong, and only AEW should be disparaged?
-the 'all-knowing' IWC 🙄
Why didn't great Khali never win money in the bank or WWE spinner belt? I would love to see Khali carrying Tiffany's briefcase or playing with spinner belt
Thank god whatculture wrestling put Simon miller on the thumbnail so I skip this video.
And not a single whatculture or Simon Miller match on here what so ever
Countless indie promotions from several regions around the world aren't featured here. Clearly, mainstream is the focus here.