crossovers don’t exactly have to play a point in everyone’s timeline. it can just be for fun and just have viewers of each show be introduced to other characters from similar shows :D
I have to agree with another comment on here. I think you’re assuming the worst by making logical leaps. What we essentially see are just references alluding to the show creator’s pasts. It’s really not that deep
I don't think your analysis here holds water, a crossover like Phineas and ferb meets the Avengers isn't some evidence of a cross-over its just a cute event thing, the Avengers in that story aren't meant to be seen as a non canon narrative also the avengers have various different canon and this one was just ,compared to something a Owl-House, Amphibia, Gravity Falls crossover which has characters that have a similar tone and set up it wouldn't be to much of a stretch to have them come together
Yeah, SOME of my worries are gone now that Amphibia never teased anything of the sort in it's ending, but my worries are still there to a degree since Matt, Amphibia's creator, expressed interest in still doing a crossover project down the line
I truly wouldn't mind if they do a crossover and the multiverse was responsible for it. I think it would be interesting. I really dig the references and am glad they are acknowledging one another in their respective shows, it's pretty awesome.
6:36 I think that just means that the boiling isles is a universe that is connected to this earth. The owl house did a similar gag to amphibia with the season 2 finale for owl house. If anything it’s confirming that this earth is where the owl house, gravity falls, and amphibia take place. Why not go further and say these shows are going to cross with Rick and morty since it is implied that Stanford has had a history with Rick. If anything those Easter eggs are mainly just for world building, and although it is possible for the owl house and amphibia to officially cross over I doubt that it will since the owl house only really has 3 44 min episodes left
Yes but actually no. You were saying that a cross over might be bland and Just going with the trends. But… it is a multiverse… of infinite possibilities Like it’s not going to be bland and boring
I welcome crossovers. Love them! I have no problem with them and want more! We got the nods in 2017 Ducktales and before that, Darkwing/ much of the Disney Afternoon. After seeing your argument with Phineas & Ferb, I can understand your concerns. Aside from nods,a definite concern would be how it's written. That can kill a great idea if poorly executed. Hopefully if done right, it'll be a great experience.
Crossovers can be fun and cool, I will say that, but still, I'm just a bit concerned with how they're kinda everywhere these days. Sure, my concerns have somewhat been lifted with how Amphibia hasn't done anything towards a crossover of some sorts with it's ending. But with how the owl house is still going, AND the shows creator has still spoken interest about doing a crossover in some form down the line, my worries are still there, just not as bad now. So, I'm still hoping it won't happen out of worry of taking away what makes these projects so special, but I do agree that if it does, I pray that the writers do it in a way feels natural and not tacky or something
@@MidgardMadness A crossover may have never happened, which makes me sad because I love crossovers and would have loved an Owl House and Amphibia one, but there was an easy way to do it in a nartural way and here it is. Marcy moved away after the final battle in Amphibia, and before Marcy's Journal came out to reveal the exact place she moved to, many fans, myself included, theorized she moved to Gravesfield and thus would be living in the same town as Luz during the events of Season 3. So Marcy could have become a secondary character who joined and help Luz and her friends during their time on Earth, similar to the Earth allies over in Amphibia. And there are many good story possibilities there. The obvious one being her connection to Anne and thus someone who can give Luz and the others vauluable incite into opening dimensional portals to get back to the Boiling Isles. But there are others too, Luz and Marcy are very similar and they could totally become friends, Mracy could help Luz make Human friends and help the other adjust to Earth for the time, and Luz and the gang could become good friends with Marcy and help her adjust to her new life and fill the whole left by Anne and Sasha not being with her. And it's not just the kids that could benefit from this, but the adults too, I imagine Marcy's parents would be able to give Camila some good advice on how to deal with the worry for her kid traveling and fighting in another dimension given their own experience with it, they could start there own little support group. There are many story possibilties here. I should know I've done some of them, as I, like many other fanfic writers, made my own version of The Owl House Season 3 because we never got proper one, and in my version I included Marcy in it.
2:29 you do realize the mystery twins live in Cali, right? And there are many reasons why these series main characters could come together. And not just obligatory plot convenience. There are so many great theories, but I don't really have the energy to type all of them out. I could tell you where to find them, but I don't know if you're that interested lol. If so, let me know.
I don’t think that there will be an in-show crossover at all, but it’s pretty unquestionable at this point that toh, Amphibia, and gravity falls are in the same universe
What the heck even is this video? You did an absurd amount of overanalyzing here. All of these signs were because the crews are close to one another. The Owl House picture was just a simple easter egg and nothing more. If you dug just a little deeper, you would have known that it was confirmed before their current seasons premiered that the 2 shows weren't going to have a properly animated crossover. The skit was it and I knew that before they premiered it. And the air times were obviously because the two shows have overlap in a number of areas, including fans. Nothing more than making it convenient for fans of both shows to tune in to their favorite shows which is what should have happened since The Owl House season 1 aired. And should I mention that Rick and Morty even has some GF easter eggs? Does that make Rick and Morty part of the "DCU" or are they just there as nice easter eggs (the answer is obvious)? I don't know what on Earth you saw in those references to make you think that there was going to be some shared universe here. All I saw from those easter eggs was simply that they were nice easter eggs. The fact that the Owl House picture was on the biggest screen meant nothing to your point. An easter egg doesn't need to be all that well hidden to be an easter egg. When I saw the Owl House picture during that episode, the first thought that went through my mind was, "Hey, what a nice easter egg." What didn't go through my mind was, "OMG! Are we getting CARTOON AVENGERS!?" In conclusion, this video was just absurd and I have no God damn idea what was going through your head here
I don't have a problem with shows existing in the same "universe" as long as it makes sense and they still stay their seperate things, with exeptions of easy to miss throw away hints. That's why I don't dislike the idea of Gravity Falls and Owl House existing on the same earth. The hints are so smal that casual fans would miss them, easily seperating the shows, yet not so obscure that they are nothing. Eda potentially beeing Stans old wive/lover is only hinted at through them using the same name and a phisical description, something easily missable and undistracting. At the same time that theory opens up the posibility for new theorys, since Eda mentioning that the weard stuff from the isle sometimes leaks into the human world could explain pretty much...everything going on in Gravity Falls, without actually taking away from Gravity Falls as it's own show. Aaaannnddd....all of this is also the reason why I dislike Amphibia and Owl House beeing in the same world. They didn't even try to make the "easter eggs" subtle in the end. They didn't even atempt an art style "fix" to make it fit Owl Houses art style. There is just a verry obvious, verry distracting high saturation picture of Ann (using he character model, btw. Not even a cool picture from the show, yet alone the finally) in Camillas kitchen an the end. Stuff like that, feels forced to me.
This video overall felt pretty pointless. These can easily be interpreted as Easter eggs. Also, you do realize that crossovers are just fun and eye candy stuff for audiences to enjoy. Maybe it’s not your cup of tea and that’s cool, but you act as if it would be a major problem, but it really isn’t.
They exist in the same multiverse/universe. That’s it. It doesn’t need to be more than that. Plenty of franchises are canon to each other and don’t have an effect on each other’s stories. So unless they’re going all in with big Avengers style TV events, you have nothing to worry about.
Yeah I don't agree with this video one bit. The Phineas and Ferb Mission Marvel example literally has no connection to the thing your complaining about. Saying that the Easter Eggs are not Easter Eggs and are leading to a crossover regardless WHEN THEY ARE CLEARLY EASTER EGGS EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THE SHOW HAVE STATED BEFORE THAT THEY ARE HARMLESS EASTEREGGS!!! HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT WHEN THEY CLEARLY ARE?!! This video is not good and completley pointless. End of story. I am personally looking forward to a crossover when it happens and honestly judging by the crews of Amphibia, Owl House, Phineas and Ferb, Molly McGee, Big City Greens and many other Disney shows I think they can pull it off just fine.
i dont really need a crossover except maybe owl house and amphibia thats the only one that kinda makes sense to me i just like the thought of them all being in the same universe
I really hope these just stay as Easter eggs. I’m not a fan of how all the other big universes have gone recently. I don’t want all these great cartoons to be made into some attempt at a blockbuster that they aren’t.
I have to agree on him here, as I personally don't find crossovers necessary. we've seen it being done many times before, and while yes it can work really well sometimes but in the end its just the generic "what if this character met this character and etc." its a fun concept but it doesn't really affect the plot. so when I see people trying desperately to make amphibia and the owl house canon as in the "same universe", it just turns me the wrong way. Bec since we all know the situation of the owl houses cancellation, I don't really think its possible. plus the trope is almost being milked for its own good at this point, I don't mind if people like this stuff we all have our own preferences, it's just not my cup of tea.
My cartoon cinematic universe 1. The Loud House 2. Amphibia 3. Steven Universe 4. Adventure Time 5. Dragons: The Nine Realms 6. Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous
This is true but I think it’s just a cool theory to wonder and think about. Crossovers kinda just ruin the show kinda. Little nods and references to the other show are fine but full episodes are not good
I mean, honestly, unlike Phineas and Ferb where it’s more comedy than serious story telling, I have more faith in this crossover working cause they can handle drama and crisis better. Especially if they get that Disney+ movie length
I love crossovers. I love the thought of these characters sharing a universe, but I see your point, The crossover needs to be done right and needs to make sense, and these heroes and stories are too far away from each other. A crossover between Amphibia and The Owl House would not make any sense; they're in different settings, worlds, and parts of the earth. And there's the fact that King Andrias and Emperor Belos would never work together. Those two are more likely to fight each other, and even then, they're focused on their own goals in their own shows, and since plans and settings are not connected to each other, it's not likely they would meet. The main characters could possibly meet but only in a side story during the first season. Eda is the most likely one to cause the crossover because she, at the time, had a door to travel to Multiverse. But I can only see a crossover possible after both series end with a special crossover, but that would have to make sense, and there needs to be a new villain connected to both worlds. Also, according to this video which I'll leave a link to below, There are legal obligations of some sort that forbid Disney from crossing over their animated shows other than showing a few hints and easter eggs that say they exist in the same universe. ua-cam.com/video/BN3-Bi5jkQo/v-deo.html
crossovers don’t exactly have to play a point in everyone’s timeline. it can just be for fun and just have viewers of each show be introduced to other characters from similar shows :D
I have to agree with another comment on here. I think you’re assuming the worst by making logical leaps. What we essentially see are just references alluding to the show creator’s pasts. It’s really not that deep
Yeah it's just a wink Matt and Dana do between them. It's nothig really serious
I don't think your analysis here holds water, a crossover like Phineas and ferb meets the Avengers isn't some evidence of a cross-over its just a cute event thing, the Avengers in that story aren't meant to be seen as a non canon narrative also the avengers have various different canon and this one was just ,compared to something a Owl-House, Amphibia, Gravity Falls crossover which has characters that have a similar tone and set up it wouldn't be to much of a stretch to have them come together
Considering how amphibia ended i highly doubt there will be an official crossover in any meaningful way.
Yeah, SOME of my worries are gone now that Amphibia never teased anything of the sort in it's ending, but my worries are still there to a degree since Matt, Amphibia's creator, expressed interest in still doing a crossover project down the line
I truly wouldn't mind if they do a crossover and the multiverse was responsible for it. I think it would be interesting. I really dig the references and am glad they are acknowledging one another in their respective shows, it's pretty awesome.
6:36 I think that just means that the boiling isles is a universe that is connected to this earth. The owl house did a similar gag to amphibia with the season 2 finale for owl house. If anything it’s confirming that this earth is where the owl house, gravity falls, and amphibia take place. Why not go further and say these shows are going to cross with Rick and morty since it is implied that Stanford has had a history with Rick. If anything those Easter eggs are mainly just for world building, and although it is possible for the owl house and amphibia to officially cross over I doubt that it will since the owl house only really has 3 44 min episodes left
Yes but actually no.
You were saying that a cross over might be bland and
Just going with the trends.
But… it is a multiverse… of infinite possibilities
Like it’s not going to be bland and boring
I welcome crossovers. Love them! I have no problem with them and want more! We got the nods in 2017 Ducktales and before that, Darkwing/ much of the Disney Afternoon. After seeing your argument with Phineas & Ferb, I can understand your concerns. Aside from nods,a definite concern would be how it's written. That can kill a great idea if poorly executed. Hopefully if done right, it'll be a great experience.
Crossovers can be fun and cool, I will say that, but still, I'm just a bit concerned with how they're kinda everywhere these days. Sure, my concerns have somewhat been lifted with how Amphibia hasn't done anything towards a crossover of some sorts with it's ending. But with how the owl house is still going, AND the shows creator has still spoken interest about doing a crossover in some form down the line, my worries are still there, just not as bad now. So, I'm still hoping it won't happen out of worry of taking away what makes these projects so special, but I do agree that if it does, I pray that the writers do it in a way feels natural and not tacky or something
@@MidgardMadness A crossover may have never happened, which makes me sad because I love crossovers and would have loved an Owl House and Amphibia one, but there was an easy way to do it in a nartural way and here it is. Marcy moved away after the final battle in Amphibia, and before Marcy's Journal came out to reveal the exact place she moved to, many fans, myself included, theorized she moved to Gravesfield and thus would be living in the same town as Luz during the events of Season 3. So Marcy could have become a secondary character who joined and help Luz and her friends during their time on Earth, similar to the Earth allies over in Amphibia. And there are many good story possibilities there. The obvious one being her connection to Anne and thus someone who can give Luz and the others vauluable incite into opening dimensional portals to get back to the Boiling Isles. But there are others too, Luz and Marcy are very similar and they could totally become friends, Mracy could help Luz make Human friends and help the other adjust to Earth for the time, and Luz and the gang could become good friends with Marcy and help her adjust to her new life and fill the whole left by Anne and Sasha not being with her. And it's not just the kids that could benefit from this, but the adults too, I imagine Marcy's parents would be able to give Camila some good advice on how to deal with the worry for her kid traveling and fighting in another dimension given their own experience with it, they could start there own little support group. There are many story possibilties here. I should know I've done some of them, as I, like many other fanfic writers, made my own version of The Owl House Season 3 because we never got proper one, and in my version I included Marcy in it.
2:29 you do realize the mystery twins live in Cali, right? And there are many reasons why these series main characters could come together. And not just obligatory plot convenience. There are so many great theories, but I don't really have the energy to type all of them out. I could tell you where to find them, but I don't know if you're that interested lol. If so, let me know.
I think you're just getting tired of the whole shared Universe concept.
well I'm not tired of it
I don’t think that there will be an in-show crossover at all, but it’s pretty unquestionable at this point that toh, Amphibia, and gravity falls are in the same universe
The best way this crossover would go if its uncanon.
What the heck even is this video? You did an absurd amount of overanalyzing here. All of these signs were because the crews are close to one another. The Owl House picture was just a simple easter egg and nothing more. If you dug just a little deeper, you would have known that it was confirmed before their current seasons premiered that the 2 shows weren't going to have a properly animated crossover. The skit was it and I knew that before they premiered it. And the air times were obviously because the two shows have overlap in a number of areas, including fans. Nothing more than making it convenient for fans of both shows to tune in to their favorite shows which is what should have happened since The Owl House season 1 aired. And should I mention that Rick and Morty even has some GF easter eggs? Does that make Rick and Morty part of the "DCU" or are they just there as nice easter eggs (the answer is obvious)?
I don't know what on Earth you saw in those references to make you think that there was going to be some shared universe here. All I saw from those easter eggs was simply that they were nice easter eggs. The fact that the Owl House picture was on the biggest screen meant nothing to your point. An easter egg doesn't need to be all that well hidden to be an easter egg. When I saw the Owl House picture during that episode, the first thought that went through my mind was, "Hey, what a nice easter egg." What didn't go through my mind was, "OMG! Are we getting CARTOON AVENGERS!?" In conclusion, this video was just absurd and I have no God damn idea what was going through your head here
I think it could be fun if it was a final episode. Like one last hoorah for the shows since they are coming to a end
I don't have a problem with shows existing in the same "universe" as long as it makes sense and they still stay their seperate things, with exeptions of easy to miss throw away hints.
That's why I don't dislike the idea of Gravity Falls and Owl House existing on the same earth. The hints are so smal that casual fans would miss them, easily seperating the shows, yet not so obscure that they are nothing. Eda potentially beeing Stans old wive/lover is only hinted at through them using the same name and a phisical description, something easily missable and undistracting. At the same time that theory opens up the posibility for new theorys, since Eda mentioning that the weard stuff from the isle sometimes leaks into the human world could explain pretty much...everything going on in Gravity Falls, without actually taking away from Gravity Falls as it's own show.
Aaaannnddd....all of this is also the reason why I dislike Amphibia and Owl House beeing in the same world. They didn't even try to make the "easter eggs" subtle in the end. They didn't even atempt an art style "fix" to make it fit Owl Houses art style. There is just a verry obvious, verry distracting high saturation picture of Ann (using he character model, btw. Not even a cool picture from the show, yet alone the finally) in Camillas kitchen an the end. Stuff like that, feels forced to me.
This video overall felt pretty pointless. These can easily be interpreted as Easter eggs.
Also, you do realize that crossovers are just fun and eye candy stuff for audiences to enjoy. Maybe it’s not your cup of tea and that’s cool, but you act as if it would be a major problem, but it really isn’t.
You're assuming that the crossover has to take place in one of the series... The crossover could be it's own thing.
They exist in the same multiverse/universe. That’s it. It doesn’t need to be more than that. Plenty of franchises are canon to each other and don’t have an effect on each other’s stories. So unless they’re going all in with big Avengers style TV events, you have nothing to worry about.
Yeah I don't agree with this video one bit.
The Phineas and Ferb Mission Marvel example literally has no connection to the thing your complaining about.
Saying that the Easter Eggs are not Easter Eggs and are leading to a crossover regardless WHEN THEY ARE CLEARLY EASTER EGGS EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THE SHOW HAVE STATED BEFORE THAT THEY ARE HARMLESS EASTEREGGS!!! HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT WHEN THEY CLEARLY ARE?!!
This video is not good and completley pointless. End of story. I am personally looking forward to a crossover when it happens and honestly judging by the crews of Amphibia, Owl House, Phineas and Ferb, Molly McGee, Big City Greens and many other Disney shows I think they can pull it off just fine.
i dont really need a crossover except maybe owl house and amphibia thats the only one that kinda makes sense to me i just like the thought of them all being in the same universe
I really hope these just stay as Easter eggs. I’m not a fan of how all the other big universes have gone recently. I don’t want all these great cartoons to be made into some attempt at a blockbuster that they aren’t.
I have to agree on him here, as I personally don't find crossovers necessary. we've seen it being done many times before, and while yes it can work really well sometimes but in the end its just the generic "what if this character met this character and etc." its a fun concept but it doesn't really affect the plot. so when I see people trying desperately to make amphibia and the owl house canon as in the "same universe", it just turns me the wrong way. Bec since we all know the situation of the owl houses cancellation, I don't really think its possible. plus the trope is almost being milked for its own good at this point, I don't mind if people like this stuff we all have our own preferences, it's just not my cup of tea.
A fan fiction writer named Mando Whisky did a mega crossover with these three shows, and I love it.
sauce?
My cartoon cinematic universe
1. The Loud House
2. Amphibia
3. Steven Universe
4. Adventure Time
5. Dragons: The Nine Realms
6. Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous
This is true but I think it’s just a cool theory to wonder and think about. Crossovers kinda just ruin the show kinda. Little nods and references to the other show are fine but full episodes are not good
I mean, honestly, unlike Phineas and Ferb where it’s more comedy than serious story telling, I have more faith in this crossover working cause they can handle drama and crisis better. Especially if they get that Disney+ movie length
I think it’s more like the Pixar universe rather than anything like the MCU I don’t think they’ll crossover too much
My counter point: Kingdom hearts
finally someone with a brain
@@sparksaturnextraaccount3703 I actually have idea for a Disney TVA game series that have ties with Kingdom hearts
Truly a Person with BIG BRAIN
This might happen even though it hasn't yet
They doing it in Chibi tales.
I don't think they're connected. Disney is just trolling us
This videos going to be something. Love all Disney TVA shows.
I think the chibi tales is what the crossover is for
I love crossovers. I love the thought of these characters sharing a universe, but I see your point, The crossover needs to be done right and needs to make sense, and these heroes and stories are too far away from each other. A crossover between Amphibia and The Owl House would not make any sense; they're in different settings, worlds, and parts of the earth. And there's the fact that King Andrias and Emperor Belos would never work together. Those two are more likely to fight each other, and even then, they're focused on their own goals in their own shows, and since plans and settings are not connected to each other, it's not likely they would meet. The main characters could possibly meet but only in a side story during the first season. Eda is the most likely one to cause the crossover because she, at the time, had a door to travel to Multiverse. But I can only see a crossover possible after both series end with a special crossover, but that would have to make sense, and there needs to be a new villain connected to both worlds.
Also, according to this video which I'll leave a link to below, There are legal obligations of some sort that forbid Disney from crossing over their animated shows other than showing a few hints and easter eggs that say they exist in the same universe.
ua-cam.com/video/BN3-Bi5jkQo/v-deo.html
The Toon Cinematic Universe
Amphibia
Owl House
Adventure Time
Steven Universe
Ben 10
Gravity Falls
Star vs The Forces of Evil
Regular Show
I can see your point.
Crossover aren't as good as when Cartoon Network used it as they all coexist in one city and only used in commercials.
You’re thinking way too deep into this
Love your vids tho
Well with the shared universe idea a good show is connected to a mid show connected to a bad show
Amphibia > The Owl House > Gravity Falls
Gravity falls isn't bad
they are all good shows what are you talking about?