'Late Putinism' is dominated by failure in Ukraine as Kremlin 'clings to power' | Mark Galeotti

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
  • "Ukraine is something that matters to Putin...I don't think we need to anticipate territorial ambitions."
    Putin's show of force at his re-inauguration hasn't disguised the risk to his regime as his territorial ambitions have been stunted by NATO closing ranks, Mark Galeotti tells Frontline on #timesradio
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 733

  • @Sean12248
    @Sean12248 Місяць тому +49

    Mark is always awesome to listen to. If Mark and Ben Hodges had the same interview together I think it'd be interesting to listen to watch.

  • @AnP865
    @AnP865 Місяць тому +49

    Late Putinism is a funny phrase I'm going to use it

    • @marioformosa4259
      @marioformosa4259 Місяць тому +1

      How old are you, child?

    • @iseeulysses
      @iseeulysses Місяць тому

      The failing Western empires with their slurs, rhetoric and terrorist attacks.

    • @gj8683
      @gj8683 Місяць тому +1

      It kind of sounds like a terminal disease.

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 26 днів тому

      I think I'd rather see the 'Late' Putin attending a Russian state funeral as the 'guy in the casket' to be honest.

  • @LewisSkeeter
    @LewisSkeeter Місяць тому +17

    Putin has to ride the tiger. No happy evenings by the fire in his sunset years.

    • @TheEvertw
      @TheEvertw Місяць тому +5

      He chose to be a dictator. The pension plans for dictators usually consist of a tiny plot of land, about 2 square meters.

    • @TheMrCougarful
      @TheMrCougarful Місяць тому

      His death will amount to ritual sacrifice to Moloch, the real power in Russia.

  • @user-ij5dt9of7v
    @user-ij5dt9of7v Місяць тому +101

    Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
    What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
    A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
    In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg all put together..
    In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
    In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
    Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
    I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
    ---------It is embarrassing that the US and Europe do not support Ukraine more than they do , the US. were in Afghanistan for 20 years and achieved less than Ukraine in 2 years, and Ukraine is also fighting a much stronger opponent (Russia )with many more resources than the taliban !!
    As a Norwegian I am ashamed of our policies in the west , the western nations governments use every opportunity to go on national TV and tell how much they support, but the truth is that we have only provided 94 Euros per inhabitant, it is ridiculous when we look at the size of Ukraine, the opponent and the way Russia has bombed cities in Ukraine back to the Stone Age, and that we (western nations ) have not lost a single person in the war , we are talking about Europe, democracy and freedom that Ukraine is defending , one can only be ashamed

    • @chrimbus71
      @chrimbus71 Місяць тому +15

      When are you planning on reaching the frontline?? Or are you going to expect someone else to fight for your EU fantasy???

    • @cooldad7297
      @cooldad7297 Місяць тому

      Get this fact. The US, UK and EU are broke. Ukraine are getting nothing because there’s nothing to give, and even if money is found, there’s no ammunition/weapons to buy that will change the outcome. BTW, when over Poland will be looking for their land back so between Russia and Poland there may not be anything left to call Ukraine?

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Місяць тому +7

      It is so easy to give up somebody else's land and freedom, right?

    • @geraldtraynor
      @geraldtraynor Місяць тому

      If you're talking about Crimea and Donbas, it's the people who decided they were part of Russia. The latter, in particular, were fed up with being persecuted for being of Russian language and culture. The real lapdogs are the Ukrainian proxies fighting an unnecessary war and the Europeans who are trashing their economies in the interests of the US MIC. By the way, the Ukraine is not a democracy.

    • @user-ij5dt9of7v
      @user-ij5dt9of7v Місяць тому

      @@attilamarics3374 yes MINSK !! " agreement " myth that according to Kremlin clowns like yourself was broken by the west and UKRAINE !!! Lets look at that as well..
      PUTIN'S CLAIM;; Putin said ; During these years, Kyiv authorities have ignored and sabotaged the implementation of the Minsk Package of Measures for a peaceful settlement of the crisis and ultimately late last year openly refused to implement it.
      THE TRUTH AND FACT ; “Minsk Package of Measures”
      Minsk agreements was to establish peace in eastern Ukraine.
      The Kremlin has been calling on Kyiv to concede the separatist area a special status via a constitutional reform (point 11) and to hold elections there (point 12).
      But for there to be fair elections, the Ukrainian government has demanded in accordance with the Minsk agreements, that all armed groups controlled by Russia must leave the area (point 10), that all Russian heavy weapons be withdrawn (point 3) and for Kyiv to recover control of the Donbas border with Russia (point 9). RUSSIA HAS DONE NONE OF THAT !!
      So for the Minsk to even start it is in Russia's ball park they must first remove and withdrawn Russian heavy weapons and armed groups leave the area ; then in accidence with Minsk agreement Ukraine will start hold elections there, but we are all waiting for Russia to remove its combatants first in accidence with Minsk agreement ..
      ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE : The Minsk agreement.in many ways, was a legal fiction.
      It was signed under duress amid fears that Russia would mount a full-scale invasion of Donbas.
      It pretended that Moscow was a mediator in a conflict in which Moscow was the aggressor.
      And it made unreasonable demands on Ukraine to overhaul its domestic political arrangements with a Kalashnikov pointed at its head.
      This wasn't a ceasefire. It was blackmail. It was extortion.
      ALSO ON ANOTHER SIDE NOTE :
      RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE in 2014 VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW:
      1. The Geneva Convention.
      2. Charter of the United Nations
      3. The Helsinki Accords
      4. The Charter of the OSCE
      5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994
      6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties
      7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination
      8. European Court of Human Rights
      THE LEGAL FACTS WHY CRIMEA BELONGS TO UKRAINE .
      The earlier published documents, and materials that have emerged more recently make clear that the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the UkrSSR was carried out in accordance with the 1936 Soviet constitution, which in Article 18 stipulated that “the territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.” The proceedings of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium meeting indicate that both the RSFSR and the UkrSSR had given their consent via their republic parliaments.
      One of the officials present at the 19 February session, Otto Kuusinen, even boasted that “only in our country [the USSR] is it possible that issues of the utmost importance such as the territorial transfer of individual oblasts to a particular republic can be decided without any difficulties.” One might argue that the process in 1954 would have been a lot better if it had been complicated and difficult, but no matter how one judges the expeditiousness of the territorial reconfiguration, the main point to stress here is that it is incorrect to say (as some Russian commentators and government officials recently have) that Crimea was transferred unconstitutionally or illegally. The legal system in the Soviet Union was mostly a fiction, but the transfer did occur in accordance with the rules in effect at the time.
      Moreover, regardless of how the transfer was carried out, the Russian Federation expressly accepted Ukraine’s 1991 borders both in the December 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords (the agreements that precipitated and codified the dissolution of the Soviet Union) and in the December 1994 Budapest Memorandum that finalized Ukraine’s status as a non-nuclear weapons state.
      “Is there a way out? ” Yes, But that will require giving up claims to what is today Ukrainian land an returning that land back to Ukraine that is today's rightful owners the Ukrainian stated that is today's Ukraine.

  • @robertshiell887
    @robertshiell887 Місяць тому +27

    “Most of the people voted for me, that makes me the boss!”, unfortunately there are way too many people in the West also hold similar notions about democracy.

    • @user-ut6ji8my2h
      @user-ut6ji8my2h Місяць тому

      Maybe you need a "boss" when you are the head of a country where half the people can't even figure out what gender they are.

    • @gezalesko3813
      @gezalesko3813 Місяць тому

      most people vote for someone ..period.. that is pretty much democracy

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Місяць тому +6

      That's why it's important to have a free press, and a genuine opposition and a strong civil society to hold your leaders to account. Democracy is not a spectator sport. At least in the West, we have the opportunity to throw out bad leaders in free and fair elections.

    • @SuperRede4u
      @SuperRede4u Місяць тому +3

      ​​@@artmcteagleMaybe for not much longer in the USA. Unfortunately 😢😢😢

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Місяць тому +3

      @@SuperRede4uYes, it's a worry, that and the fact that around 1/3 of eligible voters can't be bothered to turn out.

  • @Keithlfpieterse
    @Keithlfpieterse Місяць тому +36

    If memory serves me well, someone once said: "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely!" This is applicable not only to Putin but to all the megalomaniac rulers across the globe. Nuff said.

    • @cyruslad5462
      @cyruslad5462 Місяць тому +5

      If you take a list of megalomaniac traits and hold them up against Trump it gets hilarious quickly.

    • @michaeldy3157
      @michaeldy3157 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@cyruslad5462he has them. But the u s has a system to control maniacs

    • @user-wv8tm2iv9b
      @user-wv8tm2iv9b Місяць тому

      Putin was already corrupt before he had any power.

    • @cyruslad5462
      @cyruslad5462 Місяць тому +3

      @michaeldy3157 indeed but they're being tested.

    • @Keithlfpieterse
      @Keithlfpieterse Місяць тому

      @@michaeldy3157: I beg your padon...the good ole U S of A cannot even contain the maniacs within its borders e.g. mass shootings at schools....ad infinitum ad nauseum. Have a nice day!

  • @ericwinter975
    @ericwinter975 Місяць тому +10

    The stubbonest limpets, still clinginging to the doomed ship, as it sinks to the ocean floor.

    • @dougmartin7129
      @dougmartin7129 Місяць тому +1

      It’s getting pretty crowded down there.

  • @user-ph5ys7ed7i
    @user-ph5ys7ed7i Місяць тому +123

    🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 It is so typical of Western Europe to say "oh we didn't see that coming" and "we must never let it happen like this again". We should listen to our Baltic friends, they, if any, know what Ukraine and the rest of Europe need to do to secure our future. Right now, Ukraine is paying the highest price for its survival and for our safety, now we must all give everything we can to help them. It is our damned duty. Do your duty and earn your rights.
    We simply have to stop seeing the world as we wish it to be and start seeing it for what it is.

    • @jim2376
      @jim2376 Місяць тому +13

      "we must all give everything we can to help them" 100%

    • @akmpolsen
      @akmpolsen Місяць тому +17

      Very well said! I'm an American, living in Kyiv now. When I go back to the States, it is clear that no one there has a clue about what is happening. Well, some do. But the sense of urgency is not there. But I feel it.

    • @jamesgreen1116
      @jamesgreen1116 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@jim2376sell your house. Donate all your money. Pack up all your belongings and gather up all your family to serve on the front line. Otherwise if you don't do anything like this pipe the fk down 😂

    • @valuggel8972
      @valuggel8972 Місяць тому

      If you believe 🐂💩
      You lose🙄

    • @christopherlees1134
      @christopherlees1134 Місяць тому

      ⁠Ukraine is not paying for anyone’s safety except Ukraine. Stop pretending that Russia is marching on all of Europe. Stop pretending to know for a fact that Russia is going to invade all of Europe.

  • @SuperMagnum2011
    @SuperMagnum2011 Місяць тому +54

    Thank you.
    Always interesting.
    Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
    🇬🇧🤝

    • @niallp342
      @niallp342 Місяць тому

      ⚔️🎚️🇬🇧❣️🇷🇺🎚️⚔️
      ANTI UKRAINIAN NAZIS...☠️...

    • @jamesgreen1116
      @jamesgreen1116 Місяць тому +2

      Why do you put the butchers apron in your comment? A country that's invaded 171 other countries?

    • @SuperMagnum2011
      @SuperMagnum2011 Місяць тому

      @@jamesgreen1116
      ??? please explain 🧐

    • @SuperMagnum2011
      @SuperMagnum2011 Місяць тому

      “butchers apron”?????

    • @jamesgreen1116
      @jamesgreen1116 Місяць тому

      @@SuperMagnum2011 Google the butchers apron and you'll realise why most countries around the world despise Britain.

  • @tomjones1424
    @tomjones1424 Місяць тому +6

    😂😂🎉85% is clinging lol🎉😂😂

    • @CryptoXPrime
      @CryptoXPrime Місяць тому

      Tell us you’re clueless, without telling us you’re clueless 😉

  • @sasham4073
    @sasham4073 Місяць тому +3

    dream on

  • @ericwillis777
    @ericwillis777 Місяць тому +17

    Vranyo - that's a great word - we need something like that in English in these days of political and media 'hype' and 'spin' - something like 'bulsho' where the speaker knows he's talking BS, the listener knows it's BS, the speaker knows he knows, and the listener knows that he knows he knows, but both just treat it as if it's all quite sensible. A truly Pythonesque dialogue !

  • @p.h.3987
    @p.h.3987 Місяць тому

    Kate and Marc are my favourites!

  • @dlmsarge8329
    @dlmsarge8329 Місяць тому +20

    I was extremely surprised to hear Mr. Galeotti say that Russia had no territorial ambitions beyond Ukraine. It's not what Russian media says, it's not what Russian officials say, it's not how other neighboring countries are acting, it's not how NATO seems to see things. Very odd indeed. I'm curious how Vlad Vexler will react to Mr. Galeotti's statements.

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Місяць тому +9

      He's plain wrong about that, Georgia, Chechnya and Transnistria, come to mind. Finland is not taking any chances and the Baltic States remain free only because of NATO. The rhetoric coming from the Kremlin, as you point out, contrasts his assertion.

    • @stefansekulic7903
      @stefansekulic7903 Місяць тому

      They may have ambitions but eventually the average person in Russia will get sick of the war and Z narratives of doom and will want a return to normalcy. The only way to get rid of Putin is for the army and security services to turn against him, which is unlikely but still possible.

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh Місяць тому

      There's territorial ambitions, and there's military capability.
      Russia has one but not the other if it's planning on another war.
      What they may attempt is a repeat of the Donbas/Crimea infiltrations of "little green men" into Russian language-majority areas of neighbouring countries. That sort of sh*t-stirting is relatively cheap, and Putin knows that certain Western nations will do pretty much anything to avoid escalation. They'll appease rather than confront.

    • @fintonking7525
      @fintonking7525 Місяць тому

      Agreed -- Putin will grab anything that doesn't try to escape his grasp. Had Ukraine surrendered when he tried to overwhelm it with all those military hardware in those first few days, it would have been: which other one should I go for next? I'm pretty sure of that -- it doesn't take a genius to see that's how Putin's mind works.

    • @user-sf7ip7ik9c
      @user-sf7ip7ik9c Місяць тому +3

      Both deluded

  • @peteelliott9373
    @peteelliott9373 Місяць тому +45

    Lots of sad, lonely , putin lovers on here ..

    • @mikemckinnis3877
      @mikemckinnis3877 Місяць тому +8

      Lots of lonely Banderats here.

    • @TheRealBlueValhalla
      @TheRealBlueValhalla Місяць тому +2

      Mike getting paid in onions

    • @dougmartin7129
      @dougmartin7129 Місяць тому +3

      There is a segment of world population that loves to be told what to think and do. We know that 70 million of them live in the USA.

    • @mikemckinnis3877
      @mikemckinnis3877 Місяць тому

      @@dougmartin7129 liberalism is a mental disorder

    • @stefansekulic7903
      @stefansekulic7903 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dougmartin7129Who? MAGArites?

  • @TomatoFettuccini
    @TomatoFettuccini Місяць тому +18

    With all due respect, I don't think Mark Galeotti spends enough time with regular people, because the number of times I've explained that winning an election in truly democratic countries doesn't mean you're The Boss, rather that you're First Among Equals, in my own country to my own countrymen, is astounding.
    Most people genuinely think that when you win an election that you automatically get to do whatever you want, like despot trading cards. All you have to do is look at how people react to election results.

    • @nickrails
      @nickrails Місяць тому

      Damn.
      I have no reason to suggest you are being untruthful, and I'm not sure what country you're in, but I suggest that those 'regular people' you're talking to are actually a much smalller subset of people with fairly low intelligence/intellectual curiosity.
      'Regular people' aren't brainless cretins.
      Most people in the UK are aware that we don't vote for a king/queen every 5 years who then has absolute power.

  • @vivahernando1
    @vivahernando1 Місяць тому +54

    Someone should ask Agent 🍊 (Trump) if Mr. Putin's election was rigged.

    • @mickkelly6389
      @mickkelly6389 Місяць тому +2

      Lol

    • @christopherlees1134
      @christopherlees1134 Місяць тому +5

      Where is the evidence it was rigged?

    • @pauldionne1665
      @pauldionne1665 Місяць тому

      87 percent of the voters😂 Proof is in the putin😂​@@christopherlees1134

    • @katkrauze4250
      @katkrauze4250 Місяць тому +6

      @@christopherlees1134the guy just lay out plenty of examples, starts at 2:56 with prerigging, then he describes actual rigging

    • @RomanShepherd
      @RomanShepherd Місяць тому

      Are you an election denier?

  • @Ben-jq5oo
    @Ben-jq5oo Місяць тому

    Love listening to Michael. You can hear his vast understanding at every turn.

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish Місяць тому +1

    I want to read several of Mark Galeotti's books on this subject. However, I've been reading Vladislav M Zubok's "Collapse: The Fall of the Soviet Union" for a while now, so they'll need to wait
    Buying books, owning books, and reading books are three distinct hobbies that have only a tenuous connection to one and other

  • @Blonde_Somnambulist
    @Blonde_Somnambulist Місяць тому +7

    Clings ? Lol , ok .

  • @monsieurgrigny
    @monsieurgrigny Місяць тому

    Super stuff

  • @smk4224
    @smk4224 Місяць тому

    I just discovered this channel, very intellectual shows. I'v been a follower of American progressive channels (which is my political stand point for a long time). But I'm missing a more global analizes of the realities of the world today. Thanks👍

  • @DrRatweasel
    @DrRatweasel Місяць тому +20

    Mr Bush...."you are either with us or against us." same rhetoric.

    • @nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988
      @nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988 Місяць тому +2

      depends. i dont remember the context, but if he said it about his party, ie "you're either a republican or you're against us", then ok, that's terrible. but i believe to remember him saying it in context of the war on terror, so you're either against terror or you're against everyone else which i 100% agree with. you're either against crime, or you're against decent life. you're either against violence, or you're against life.
      that said, even if bush jr said it in the way i liked, he still conducted the war on terror stupidly and so did most everyone since and before him, too, so at least in hindsight i'm still against him, but more on a personal level. a war on terror couldve been conducted efficiently, swiftly, relatively cheaply and very defiinitely. none of which he even attempted, which is why it's so easy to disagree with him for me.

  • @rockdog2843
    @rockdog2843 Місяць тому

    She is so beautiful! Great host too!

  • @bmunson4920
    @bmunson4920 Місяць тому +13

    ‘You are lying, I know you are lying…and you know I know you know you are lying..’ and onward….

  • @samhaskins2506
    @samhaskins2506 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you Kate for your intelligent interviews, with zero staring at your feet like some hosts on times radio, your vlogs are always refreshing and such a pleasure to absorb. Thank you! If we understand Putin and his cronies can drift on for 2 years or so in this state, were things actually worse when the Soviet Union collapsed?

  • @brianobrain8985
    @brianobrain8985 23 дні тому

    A very interesting interview as usual. A question I would ask Mr. Galeotti is:
    Do you think that it is somehow possible for Russia to maintain this strategy indefinitely even when Putin is long dead and gone and, if not, what could its long term objectives be on the world stage in that case?

  • @luminyam6145
    @luminyam6145 Місяць тому

    Fascinating interview, thank you.

    • @anka6356
      @anka6356 Місяць тому

      embarrassing more like it

    • @luminyam6145
      @luminyam6145 Місяць тому

      @@anka6356 A Putler fan!

  • @claytonmunsey9740
    @claytonmunsey9740 Місяць тому +3

    #PSUSSRTSD Post Stalin USSR Traumatic Stress Disorder 😮

  • @arthurjohnson7382
    @arthurjohnson7382 Місяць тому +12

    Kate is the best!

    • @Nick_S0
      @Nick_S0 Місяць тому

      When the camera closes up onto her face I am frequently wondering if the word MLF was omitted from the title of the video by mistake and we see someone's duck next, but then the camera spans to the guest and all is proper. Bizarre connotations though.

  • @davidcpugh8743
    @davidcpugh8743 Місяць тому

    Brilliant discussion.

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa Місяць тому

    Since Navalneys death , things has been strange in Moscovich ..

  • @peterwhite7428
    @peterwhite7428 Місяць тому

    I recently heard on Joe Blogs that India may not be buying oil from Russia.

  • @jameswhiteaker6430
    @jameswhiteaker6430 Місяць тому +12

    I do enjoy these aspirational videos. They are hilarious in how far they go to ignore the facts.

    • @hippopotamus6765
      @hippopotamus6765 Місяць тому +2

      What are your facts ?

    • @SuperRede4u
      @SuperRede4u Місяць тому +3

      ​@@hippopotamus6765I'm sure that it's "trust me bro". The worlds most reliable source of information. 😂😂😂😂

  • @chronixchaos7081
    @chronixchaos7081 Місяць тому +1

    And he has a model of Thunderbird Two!

  • @xxjonboy
    @xxjonboy Місяць тому +6

    How prescient of Mark to talk about a Black Swan event that could upset things. But even he can't have expected it would come within a few hours of this interview.

  • @alastairjhunter3666
    @alastairjhunter3666 Місяць тому +4

    What nonsense

  • @bellow85
    @bellow85 Місяць тому

    Anointed, Jesus that's a bad word for Democracy

  • @derryjones1029
    @derryjones1029 Місяць тому

    I know he wont leave without taking everyone else's with him

  • @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
    @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland Місяць тому +15

    Excellent analyses! L'histoire ce repete

  • @andreasferenczi7613
    @andreasferenczi7613 Місяць тому +12

    7:17 "...open access to media..." Then why is no Western media blocked in Russia, but in the EU we can't watch RT?

    • @matt.willoughby
      @matt.willoughby Місяць тому +4

      Find out what's blocked in Russia, it's not free access like you think.

    • @Bob-nd2mr
      @Bob-nd2mr Місяць тому

      obviously never heard of a VPN fella
      russian propaganda is a joke .. people watch Slobbermouth on Russia TV 1 for a laugh...the grisly woman cammandant type wth her hair drawn back viscously ..not seen her for a while..maybe Slobbermouth is "re-educating her " ...just sayin. Lift your game ..Russian propaganda has to compete with Scientology and adverts as being a total waste of time. and life...

    • @03056932
      @03056932 Місяць тому

      ​@@matt.willoughbyif this was true you would have just said it. People love to prove people wrong. You just sprinkled some denial in and left. Transparent.

    • @matt.willoughby
      @matt.willoughby Місяць тому

      @@03056932 oh shut up

  • @pennymcneela7095
    @pennymcneela7095 Місяць тому +1

    I reckon Putins time is almost over, one way or another.

  • @NJonners
    @NJonners Місяць тому +1

    Thunderbird 2 and an Angel Interceptor on the book shelf.

  • @seanmoran2743
    @seanmoran2743 Місяць тому +1

    If this is failure I’d hate to see success

    • @TheMrCougarful
      @TheMrCougarful Місяць тому

      Putin fears for his life. If he slips up, he will end up being ventilated. At best, he hides from his enemies and rivals until his body fails him.

  • @buildorder06
    @buildorder06 Місяць тому +3

    Very,very interesting indeed. Thank you.

  • @dangleebals6746
    @dangleebals6746 Місяць тому +1

    You need to remember how Putin came into power in Russia, and it was mostly from unbreakable traditions

  • @tr7b410
    @tr7b410 Місяць тому +3

    The more one clings to power,the more it slips away...Lao Duh.

  • @peterwatson3944
    @peterwatson3944 Місяць тому

    Sounds like you're describing a British or American election.

  • @richardwarner3705
    @richardwarner3705 Місяць тому

    No way will he be there for another decade!😱

  • @hubertussuppenstiefel5590
    @hubertussuppenstiefel5590 Місяць тому

    This really makes sense, it is said that Putin couldn't understand how it was possible that the S.U. gave up Eastern Germany in 1989 when he was in Dresden. Maybe he will now find out.

  • @carldacosta3184
    @carldacosta3184 Місяць тому

    They don't even have sucssesors, do they??

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 Місяць тому

    I think it helpful to remember where and when the phrase "banana republic' comes from in the first place.

  • @ChrisDeehn
    @ChrisDeehn Місяць тому

    Your a smart boy Cxxx 💚💐🌹🇬🇧

  • @lablackzed
    @lablackzed Місяць тому +14

    The CiA most be paying for this channel.

    • @anthonyrooney597
      @anthonyrooney597 Місяць тому

      Most they?

    • @donaldshotts4429
      @donaldshotts4429 Місяць тому +1

      Go find another one where they refer to Putin like he's Gandhi mixed with Napoleon. Plenty of them out there.

  • @libertarianbydefault
    @libertarianbydefault Місяць тому +11

    I can only suggest that people look for more independent content and read about the history of this part of the world as well as recent events. When you have a holistic view, you can easily and quickly learn to see gaping holes in the narrative being fed by the likes of Mark and Times Radio.

    • @angiebaby9981
      @angiebaby9981 Місяць тому

      Libertarianbydefault
      I thought I was ten again, watching Jackanory.

    • @akeleven
      @akeleven Місяць тому

      Like what?

  • @amadeuz8161
    @amadeuz8161 Місяць тому

    Once again one that thinks freedom for a group is a negative thing because its not the easy way out for him to go back to his life of comforts...
    The Ural Altaic people has a right to have a chance to be free, even if he has to use his jacuzzi only once per month instead of every day!

    • @amadeuz8161
      @amadeuz8161 Місяць тому

      What you in the western parts of Europe lack to see and understand is. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME RUSSIA/KREMLIN DOES THIS! It happens every 50-100 year and will continue happening until the real ethnic Russians are torn down from the pedestal they have created in their world. Every beacon of the former empires has to be torn down, if they do it themselves it would be better but they probably wont. So our goal needs to be to push them back to the borders of Muscovia and anything less will only create a future conflict. We need to support the oppressed groups so that the Kremlin won't try again, a "wall" around Muscovians needs to be created.
      Go back in history and see for yourself when everything went wrong. I do agree with an Russian that said "When Muscovia conquered Novgorod" that was the point of no return for their madness. They were oppressed themselves by the mongols so the feeling of power became a "drug" for them. Like they all thing Russia is a Superpower when all they have are scraps from the Soviet and some nukes that might or might not hit the targets or even work(Like my biggest fear living next to them is not them launching one, my biggest fear is that they are storing them like next to each other and somehow manages to create a chainreaction. Like everything they touch starts to rot so seeing a Rusty old missile from Soviet times stored outside would not surprise me, they are like the kid in class that never showers).

  • @nicholasforman1195
    @nicholasforman1195 Місяць тому +34

    Putin is about to fall off his gold plated lavatory seat.

    • @yves3560
      @yves3560 Місяць тому +3

      😂 you´re funny.

    • @nicholasforman1195
      @nicholasforman1195 Місяць тому +2

      @@yves3560 It’s probably heated too but this time someone fiddled with temperature control and he got burnt.

    • @sallywilton2236
      @sallywilton2236 Місяць тому

      Hhhhh

    • @paulyoung4422
      @paulyoung4422 Місяць тому +3

      Not Gold plated, but Solid Gold. Chumps is plated,

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 Місяць тому

      @@nicholasforman1195 With 87% support who will do it? I guess you are cheerleadign for assassinations here.

  • @trishmcleod6245
    @trishmcleod6245 Місяць тому

    Russia as a Banana Republic? That made me smile too. Is there any way to spread that around?

  • @ebi3168
    @ebi3168 Місяць тому +1

    Great interview, as always very instructive. I just wonder if the story of the innocence of the Russian population can be maintained forever. Russia was never held accountable for the crimes committed during Stalinism and the European occupation. Perhaps these tales of innocence, and that Russians are always victims and never perpetrators, are also a reason for the recurring circle of violence.

  • @ianinkster2261
    @ianinkster2261 Місяць тому

    "Clings to power"? You mean "Putin seamlessly retains his unbroken iron grip on power".

  • @trqster
    @trqster Місяць тому

    Just another 6 years and everything will be fine...

  • @hihihihihihihihihihi323
    @hihihihihihihihihihi323 Місяць тому

    I wonder why he didnt mention the oil link between India and RU, thats an obvious reason...

  • @angelachanelhuang1651
    @angelachanelhuang1651 Місяць тому

    the former Soviet Union is in civil war

  • @user-kf8wg6lb1p
    @user-kf8wg6lb1p Місяць тому +5

    Same as the Tory’s then clinging on power and a unelected prime minister here in the uk

    • @TheStewart46
      @TheStewart46 Місяць тому

      You obviously don't understand the UK. The Prime Minister has never been elected. Can you name one Prime Minister who has been elected?

  • @oscarmora4602
    @oscarmora4602 Місяць тому

    Interesting

  • @KreepinJezus
    @KreepinJezus Місяць тому

    Sheeple 😂😂😂😂

  • @wolfiemum461
    @wolfiemum461 Місяць тому

    Shocking amount of adds longer than

  • @lauriew3517
    @lauriew3517 Місяць тому +6

    'Late Rishiism' is dominated by failure in UK as Tories 'cling to power'

  • @RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz
    @RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz Місяць тому +1

    Same thoughts apply to The United States electoral college the us vote is More factually a political Census only the electoral college insiders can cast president electing votes

  • @evaluateanalysis7974
    @evaluateanalysis7974 Місяць тому +1

    32:48 "...to reach out to the Russian people and say 'We know this is not your fault.'..." A fair percentage of them voted for him, some protested and the rest shrugged their shoulders. Since it is rightly against international law to interfere in the internal affairs of a country, we have to deal with it as it is. The inhabitants have to either depose the tyrant (with the risk to their health that involves), or accept the blame for what he does.

    • @eddybrevet6816
      @eddybrevet6816 Місяць тому

      the more they know the better, no interfering in internal affairs, who made that law and Y, rightly

  • @kennedychanda7637
    @kennedychanda7637 Місяць тому

    The man himself .

  • @SamLed1111
    @SamLed1111 Місяць тому +7

    As a Ukrainian American I appreciate this gentlemen's perspective however unless the United States unpauses it's military support my ancestral homeland is in dire straights. I am hopeful but also a realist.

    • @geraldtraynor
      @geraldtraynor Місяць тому

      It was US "support" in starting this war back in 2014 (with the dual aim of dismembering Russia and undermining the European economy) with the Ukrainians as proxies that has brought that country into such "dire straits". Tragic.

  • @DJFAmenHeavy
    @DJFAmenHeavy Місяць тому +18

    It’s depressing how lacklustre ‘we’ the west have responded. It’s actually shameful and makes us look very weak. We are a pathetic liberal breed wishing for our own demise.

    • @jamesgreen1116
      @jamesgreen1116 Місяць тому

      The west isn't a country. Its the usa and their pathetic bootlicking puppet club

    • @sondoobie1987
      @sondoobie1987 Місяць тому

      Simple answer, the west is weak, one country, Russia, stood up to ALL the WEFtern puppet countries. Russia has topped this by far, look around you, any country that submits to the WEF has ended up in tatters. WE ARE WEAK.. We just think the rest of the world still thinks us all powerful. This isnt about nukes, the west wouldn't dare a face to face fight with a real army. Putin is the man, a chess player, playing the west like the muppets they are.

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Місяць тому +15

    Late Putinism? I hope that means soon past Putinism!

  • @jameskellogg83
    @jameskellogg83 26 днів тому

    I believe that the error that NATO has made with Russia in regard to Ukraine, has been in not being anywhere
    near aggressive enough. I believe that deterrence is very important. I think that great efforts should be made
    to either stop bad things from happening or to stop them from getting worse.
    I think that a major motivator for Putin's actions in regard to Ukraine starting with the 2014 invasion and annexation
    of Crimea, has been his belief that the West is indecisive and scared and that he could get away with doing pretty
    much anything that he wanted to.
    I believe that the primary reason for the inadequate reaction of NATO has been fear of a nuclear conflict. Basically,
    I believe that through nonsensical bluffs and the West's own independent fear, Putin and his cronies have succeeded
    in cowing the NATO alliance into allowing Russia to seize Crimea in 2014 and begin a new invasion in 2022 that could
    result in Ukraine's eventual defeat.
    I believe that the chances of Russia's using nuclear weapons in Ukraine is miniscule at best. If Putin/Russia used nuclear weapons,
    I am sure they realize that they could easily be "signing their own death warrant" which I very much doubt they have much interest in
    doing. I strongly believe that corrupt government officials and oligarchs who spend billions of dollars of stolen money on colossal yachts
    and mansions have very little interest in committing suicide in attempts to keep stolen lands in Ukraine. People who are very interested in
    worldly goods of great luxury, are expressing a strong desire to go on living.
    When Russia seized Crimea in 2014, I believe that the U.S. and the rest of NATO should have told Putin in "no uncertain terms", that if
    Russian forces did not immediately leave Crimea, they would send their military into Crimea and destroy the Russian forces
    that were present there. If Russia had not complied with that demand, then NATO should have made that threat a reality. These actions
    almost surely would have prevented the 2022 Ukraine war from happening and could have saved hundreds of thousands of Ukranian
    lives.
    In 2022 when U.S. intelligence predicted that Russia was about to invade Ukraine, the U.S. and the rest of NATO should have warned
    Putin/Russia, that if they go ahead with their invasion, then the combined NATO forces would enter Ukraine and destroy the Russian
    military that was present. Again, I think that that this action could have very possibly stopped the Russian invasion before it happened.
    I still believe that the U.S. and the rest of NATO should take direct and aggressive action now in the war in Ukraine. I believe that the combined
    NATO forces should send a very large military force into Ukraine and destroy the Russian military that is present there. Russia is no longer
    a super-power and has not been one since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russia has demonstrated in Ukraine for all to see, that it does
    not have a great military. The Russians are well aware that they cannot successfully stand up to the U.S. alone or to the combined
    forces of NATO. The only real danger that Russia presents is a large nuclear arsenal that I would strongly suggest that they dare not use. Confronting
    Russia on a Ukrainian battlefield would in fact not create "World War III". - This is a myth. The 32 countries that make up NATO versus Russian forces that
    are present in Ukraine, is not a World War. It is the total destruction of those Russian forces that have invaded Ukraine. NATO needs to "grow a backbone".
    China, North Korea and Iran are not sending armies to Ukraine to fight "shoulder to shoulder" with Russia. - This is not going to happen. This threat of
    World War III is little more than nonsense that Russia would dearly love for the West to believe.
    Russia should be forced to give back to Ukraine, every inch of land that they have illegally seized including Crimea. After all Ukrainian lands have been
    returned, Russia should be compelled to pay backbreaking reparations to rebuild all of Ukraine that they have destroyed.
    A stern message needs to be sent to all aggressor nations that all they will receive for their actions is military defeat, isolation and economic collapse.
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  • @robertatkins9419
    @robertatkins9419 Місяць тому

    'Late British intelligence' is dominated by failure as Mark Galeotti clings to credibility and relevance.

  • @malcolmclayton6651
    @malcolmclayton6651 25 днів тому

    Was Russia a better country under the Crars ? What were its positvve points ?

  • @peterhodge3931
    @peterhodge3931 Місяць тому +4

    Always a great insight again from Mark and thoughtful questions from the lovely Kate. A very good conversational overview of Putin's strategy, and unfortunately, a disturbing view of the West's inertia and fragmented strategy for controlling Putin and support for the futile war. Good job Kate.

  • @richardcory5024
    @richardcory5024 Місяць тому +5

    It is questionable as to whether the Russian population will ever be happier than when they are living under a tyranny such as wartime Russia has become under Putin. Perhaps it is not so much that Putin is clinging to power as realising that this is the only way to maintain power in Russia.

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Місяць тому +1

      It is Russia and USSR which created Putin, not the opposite. Russia is always more or less the same. It has a break sometimes and that is all.

    • @michaeldy3157
      @michaeldy3157 Місяць тому

      When things change , they will hate tyrants but that is all they know now

    • @richardcory5024
      @richardcory5024 Місяць тому +2

      @@michaeldy3157 Nothing has changed in Russia for hundreds of years except for a brief interlude of confusion after the collapse of the USSR, when they tried freedom and decided they hated it.

    • @richardcory5024
      @richardcory5024 Місяць тому +1

      @@Blanka1100 True. Russia has only had one break in the last several hundred years though, from about 1991 to about 2011, some 20 years. Most Russians probably felt it was far too unsettling to live during it to want to repeat the experiment. Those who enjoyed freedom have probably mostly left by now.

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 Місяць тому +4

      @@richardcory5024 You mean when the US with Russian oligarchs plundered Russia? Was that freedom? You know that Putin got popular because of that. You dont know anyhtign about the topics you are trying to act smart about.

  • @geoffgill5334
    @geoffgill5334 Місяць тому +1

    Russian are getting a tech
    savvy populce , getting news from the net

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Місяць тому

      Not in the rural areas, where even basic plumbing is dire, and extreme poverty is the rule.

  • @alhow9507
    @alhow9507 Місяць тому +4

    😂😂😂 "CLINGS ON" TO POWER😂😂😂. CORRECTION : PUTIN REMAINS IN POWER.

  • @CaptainCalculus
    @CaptainCalculus Місяць тому +1

    what was the word he used for a lie that everyone knows is a lie, but you can't call out?

    • @richardcory5024
      @richardcory5024 Місяць тому +2

      Vranyo.

    • @CaptainCalculus
      @CaptainCalculus Місяць тому

      @@richardcory5024 brilliant, TY

    • @richardcory5024
      @richardcory5024 Місяць тому +3

      @@CaptainCalculus The Russians have got more words for lying than the Eskimos have for snow.

    • @SuperRede4u
      @SuperRede4u Місяць тому

      ​@@richardcory5024Hilarious 😂😂😂

  • @user-sf7kl9uh7k
    @user-sf7kl9uh7k Місяць тому

    Wouldn't Putin trust Medvedev to succeed him?

  • @gezalesko3813
    @gezalesko3813 Місяць тому

    if he has one honest vote stil more than most of his crtitques..

  • @robinmuirhead1158
    @robinmuirhead1158 Місяць тому

    Half of Russian Oil Refineries are oFF-Line

    • @xzox
      @xzox Місяць тому

      Russia is second only to Saudi Arabia in oil production. If what you say is true (and it isn't), the consequences would be a a shortage of oil products, an increase in their price and increased profit for the Russian oil companies. You pay more for your gas. How deluded can you get ?

  • @tom-kz9pb
    @tom-kz9pb Місяць тому +3

    Putin clings to power like a barnacle on the rotting hull of a sinking ship.

  • @geoffgill5334
    @geoffgill5334 Місяць тому +11

    During the first round of Russian mobilization lost almost a million of educated populace😮

  • @photonotavailable7936
    @photonotavailable7936 Місяць тому +5

    🇺🇸🤝🫡🇺🇦.

  • @bradslowgrove1128
    @bradslowgrove1128 Місяць тому +4

    Galeotti needs to study the international law position that they all know and conceal and is what the consequences are for these very rare illegal wars of aggression. I suspect Pentagon objectives in this war are classified and there is some evidence to support this if you are well trained and know where to look. You have to distinguish between bare political speak and political speak that has legal speak behind it. To be an expert on an illegal war of aggression you have to know a very sophisticated part of the law that not many lawyers know because it does not come up in practice but legally this is not a regional war between Russia and Ukraine but a war against global civilization and it is what international law requires for victory not Ukraine that matters and that is Russia out of Ukraine. History and pol. science PhDs do not cut the mustard for this war you need to know international law.

  • @user-ij5dt9of7v
    @user-ij5dt9of7v Місяць тому +20

    The Black Sea countries are many!! And Then Black Sea does not belong to Russia that’s a myth !!
    Bulgaria, (NATO )
    Romania (NATO)
    Turkey (NATO)
    Ukraine (NATO partner )
    Georgia (NATO partner)
    So in-fact ANY NATO country members navy and or air force is within their full right to sail and be within the Black Sea, as non of the Black Sea Nations (That have a real and legal int. recognized cost-line not like Russia ) have any problem with NATO ships being in their waters and even the non NATO members like Ukraine and Georgia, even more so then the NATO nations, want and are begging for more NATO ships to come and be in the BLACK SEA !
    (NATO nations of the black sea are in-fact real black sea nations not like Russia stealing land then claiming to be the owner of that land and sea )
    Coastline length to the black see by country/ Country Coastline length (km)
    Turkey 1,329km (NATO)
    Ukraine 2,782km (NATO partner )
    Bulgaria 354km (NATO)
    Georgia 310km (NATO partner )
    Romania 225km (NATO)
    And her is a thought .. if every neighbor you have is running to begging NATO to let them join NATO is it becouse you are such a nice and good neighbor?
    Or is it because you act like a bully and are aggressive and invade your neighbor lands sending in troops and tanks
    Hungary 1956,
    Czechoslovakia 1968,
    Poland 1980
    Moldova 1990-91,
    Georgia 2008,
    Ukraine 2014 ++
    And now all of Ukraine 2022+++
    Russia eat eat eats its victims and then blames its victims for eating them !!
    ... Maybe if you act in a more nicer way, then your neighbors will liked you more and maybe your neighbors in your neighborhood will want to be around you as well ..

    • @user-wq4ju7uu7x
      @user-wq4ju7uu7x Місяць тому +1

      Как-то однобоко. В России нет коммунистов. Варшавского договора нет. Россия такая же страна как и многие. Россия предлагала безвизовую зону от Лиссабона до Владивостока. Россия хотела вступить в НАТО, ей отказали.Конечно ,зачем иметь такого союзника, которого нужно разрушить. Так что разговор о добрых соседях очень наивен. Вам нужно знать историю конфликта не из уст ВВС. В Украине нацист Бандера- национальный герой. Можете спросить о нем у поляков. Это сейчас им приказали пока забыть о нем. А так поляки и евреи его хорошо помнят.

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 Місяць тому

      Your understanding of history is weak. Also thats a bot account very clearly.

    • @user-ij5dt9of7v
      @user-ij5dt9of7v Місяць тому +3

      @@attilamarics3374 Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
      What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
      A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
      In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg all put together..
      In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
      In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
      Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
      I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
      ---------It is embarrassing that the US and Europe do not support Ukraine more than they do , the US. were in Afghanistan for 20 years and achieved less than Ukraine in 2 years, and Ukraine is also a much stronger opponent with many more resources !! As a Norwegian I am ashamed of our policies in the west , the western nations governments use every opportunity to go on national TV and tell how much they support, but the truth is that we have only provided 94 Euros per inhabitant, it is ridiculous when we look at the size of Ukraine, the opponent and the way Russia has bombed cities in Ukraine back to the Stone Age, and that we (western nations ) have not lost a single person in the war , we are talking about Europe, democracy and freedom that Ukraine is defending , one can only be ashamed

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 Місяць тому

      @@user-ij5dt9of7v stop spamming

    • @user-wq4ju7uu7x
      @user-wq4ju7uu7x Місяць тому

      @@attilamarics3374 когда вы не знаете как ответить , то всегда можно говорить, что оппонент бот.

  • @macswanton9622
    @macswanton9622 Місяць тому

    @7:28 By his definition, putin is as much of an adherent to democracy as trumbski

  • @kitcat4512
    @kitcat4512 Місяць тому

    So does Biden, but media ignores that.

    • @jiimmyyy
      @jiimmyyy Місяць тому

      Irrlevant. Engage the topic.

  • @user-gg9rx4ue2t
    @user-gg9rx4ue2t Місяць тому

    Is this what the UK comuniparty do to anyone that questions the narrative like Andrew Bridgen

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay Місяць тому

    BUT WILL HE HANG ONTO LIFE

  • @libertarianbydefault
    @libertarianbydefault Місяць тому +6

    Mark strikes me as a person with quite a bit of knowledge who chooses to spin it in ways that conform to his personal views, i.e. bias. He says half-truths, he omits critical details, he speculates to fill-in the gaps. And, of course, he is presented as "expert", so everyone takes all he says at face value. It is people like Mark who form the public opinion in alignment with the western political elites stance.

  • @BabyHoolighan
    @BabyHoolighan Місяць тому

    The election was not about selecting a president, but the votes matter. Putin is popular and he won the election but the critical question is by how much. Those forces in the Kremlin that do select the president are about to make changes. The vote count is a variable in determining when the best time is to make changes with the least disruption. If vote stuffing occurred it could easily be a smoke screen to mislead Putin and to bolster his confidence. It's Gorbachev time and decisions have to be made. He probably has 18 months left.

  • @AH-wr1ir
    @AH-wr1ir Місяць тому +8

    great interview and insightful answers. thank you.

  • @leet3207
    @leet3207 Місяць тому +5

    How is the political scene in the UK with Rishi and the US and Biden. Now thats 2 countries with real political problems

  • @Bobby_K_king_of_YouTube
    @Bobby_K_king_of_YouTube Місяць тому

    Mark always winds up the Russian trolls in the comments. Hahaha.

  • @shofiulazam7108
    @shofiulazam7108 Місяць тому +5

    Cool now let's talk about western democracy

    • @BinaryMekhanika
      @BinaryMekhanika Місяць тому

      The west is pretty much communist authoritarian now. There is no culture or shared identity. It's an open air refugee camp where the citizens work harder to take care of foreigners speaking a different language and these clowns talk about Putin all day

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Місяць тому +1

      It might have escaped you, but western democracy is always talked about, scrutinised on a daily basis, Times Radio itself is constantly doing interviews about the topic. You're being disingenuous.