Slavoj Žižek: Trump, Himmler, Putin and 'Atheist Christianity' | Žižek's plot to save the West

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  • @MisterWillow
    @MisterWillow 7 місяців тому +566

    Let's not forget he is 75 during this interview.
    I can only wish to be so alert/smart/etc at that age!
    Slavoj has so many important points to make it make me dizzy.

    • @kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
      @kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 7 місяців тому +7

      He’s not smart. So be thankful.

    • @allenbilyk4420
      @allenbilyk4420 7 місяців тому +7

      Once you read “Atheism Christianity” it will blow your mind !

    • @kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
      @kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 7 місяців тому +4

      @@allenbilyk4420 judeo Christian minds are easily blown

    • @TheRealNickG
      @TheRealNickG 7 місяців тому +3

      @@allenbilyk4420 Yep. Changed my life! 😎

    • @TheRealNickG
      @TheRealNickG 7 місяців тому

      ​@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Tell me you don't know anything about the subject at hand without telling me.... The dumdums are those who see everything as binary. Open doesn't always mean not closed and so on and so forth. Nice try to actually shame book reading though. Thoroughly gross.

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever 8 місяців тому +1477

    I would call Trump and Putin Griftians. They are not Christians but they grift on Christianity to get bonus points.

    • @stefansekulic7903
      @stefansekulic7903 8 місяців тому

      Putin is a communist. How can a kgb agent be a Christian? He's just a good actor who knows how to use Christian values for his own goals.

    • @basitin6909
      @basitin6909 8 місяців тому

      I'd certainly agree with a claim on Trump without further explanation. But Putin has taken over the Orthodox church in russia as a demographic weapon against his own nation, calling Putin a grifter certainly wouldn't quite give it justice.
      The only function that Orthodox church has in soviet russia is to control the demographics, it's fully controlled by their FSB

    • @golddigger8759
      @golddigger8759 8 місяців тому +74

      I agree, sad but true. Trump should be in jail by know, if the judiciary system hadn't broken down before...

    • @agaragar21
      @agaragar21 8 місяців тому +48

      They are criminals ....quit the religious connotations

    • @mediaaccess2
      @mediaaccess2 8 місяців тому +10

      Well said.

  • @travisheldreth5021
    @travisheldreth5021 7 місяців тому +1011

    I am amazed that Slavoj is 75 years old and his nose is still attached to his face. Love him.

    • @tonyr4873
      @tonyr4873 7 місяців тому +29

      I gave him 3 minutes, then couldn't listen to his voice anymore.

    • @HatKiddy
      @HatKiddy 7 місяців тому +28

      His nose survived a lot

    • @_.dace._
      @_.dace._ 7 місяців тому +1

      @@HatKiddy what did he do to it :o

    • @barmanchiche
      @barmanchiche 6 місяців тому +2

      hahaha!

    • @ManelRuivo
      @ManelRuivo 6 місяців тому +6

      and he didnt transform in daffy duck.

  • @StjepanBrbot
    @StjepanBrbot 8 місяців тому +179

    As Žižek said - naivety is dangerous thing! Believing that all this will stop by its own is naivety!

    • @Tomislavr7
      @Tomislavr7 6 місяців тому +4

      He also said that Putin is to blame for telling the truth and others not understanding it and that it's his tactic or something along with that. Just a bunch of nonsense.

    • @nts4906
      @nts4906 6 місяців тому

      It will not stop in time. The ravages of climate catastrophe and the ignorance perpetuated by the right will make sure that humanity kills itself off in the grand apocalyptic end that right-wingers truly want. The right stands against life itself and are doing everything in their power to end humanity, and to stand against reality and truth itself.

    • @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov
      @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov 6 місяців тому

      putins the dark magician able to feast on negative response - the ultimate only of the incarnation forms that place these fissurings And naivety lends to the bear bottlenose speck from which a venue treat that begit consequences of our attributions o evil to the substance other than which that is forfeiting of the real moral proffer consolidated short

    • @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov
      @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov 6 місяців тому

      solution is finding how naivety lends itself or pars with the definition/inaccuracy of self-loathing to the assemblage right or establish to exist as symptomous of the winged spirit animal and identity of the dynamism through the fabric culture entanglement and the success of the complexes through dismus scroungement the works of which hold together which is poignant in the conflict about which heils these newfangled clairvoyance-outtakes of the Russia nation

    • @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov
      @myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov 6 місяців тому +1

      the putin artist / (dark black) magician feasts and develops successful to maturation from negative response it inflicts the only incarnations format and it is contrivent contemporaneous

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium 6 місяців тому +152

    Why does she say "he debated Jordan Petersen" as if it was some accomplishment for Zizek? It's like congratulating Paul McCartney for collaborating with Kanye lol 😂

    • @tony_5156
      @tony_5156 5 місяців тому +6

      They’re both cool dudes, it’s a shame they didn’t get to kiss
      Maybe I’m not joking

    • @atrumluminarium
      @atrumluminarium 5 місяців тому +25

      @@tony_5156 nah Jordan is a pseudo intellectual

    • @mggaming4624
      @mggaming4624 5 місяців тому +4

      @@atrumluminarium Isn't he a professional psychiatrist? I mean you can dislike him but he is an expert in a particular domain so

    • @atrumluminarium
      @atrumluminarium 5 місяців тому +16

      @@mggaming4624 he was, but that aside 70% of what he speaks about authoritatively is outside of clinical psychology

    • @joecarom391
      @joecarom391 5 місяців тому +20

      debated Jordan Peterson? More like kindly suggested Peterson actually do his reading homework, because having skipped through the Manifesto as an undergrad does not a qualification make

  • @X-boomer
    @X-boomer 8 місяців тому +344

    It just struck me that he's right about the introspection/extrospection thing. As Carnegie said "no man is a criminal in his own mind". We can all invent our own private narratives to justify our actions whatever they are, even the vilest of murderers. We need to be judged on what we DO, and we need to judge ourselves that way.

    • @LA-kc7ev
      @LA-kc7ev 7 місяців тому +21

      The way the juxtaposition is set up is flawed. Introspection is not 'self-justification': what it is is many things, among them an 'objectification' of the self, an 'inspection'.

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 7 місяців тому +18

      That’s a Christian concept, ‘by their fruits they will be judged’. We’re all as unaware of our Christianity, as we are about breathing.

    • @X-boomer
      @X-boomer 7 місяців тому +9

      @@LA-kc7ev you are missing the point so badly it's not even funny. I only used the terms introspection and extrospection to delineate the difference between judging yourself on what you claim your motives are, vs the external effects of your actions.

    • @LA-kc7ev
      @LA-kc7ev 7 місяців тому +4

      And you would be right. However he does make assumptions from there that are incorrect and can steer people in a wrong direction. No worries. I felt the need to say what I did regardless of it being true that the external effects of one's actions are the first reason to then take a better look at yourself. Not everybody who does so becomes thus delusional. @@X-boomer

    • @martiendejong8857
      @martiendejong8857 7 місяців тому +1

      captain obvious in the house

  • @paulscousedownie
    @paulscousedownie 8 місяців тому +48

    He’s such a brilliant guy. Unique in the way he presents things. Extremely articulate in his explanation of complex human and political problems. I love listening to him! The way he speaks always makes me smile.

  • @olgamarsh169
    @olgamarsh169 8 місяців тому +224

    I like how he is pronouncing Ukraine very slavic ❤

    • @JesusMagicPanties
      @JesusMagicPanties 8 місяців тому +10

      For us Poles Serbo-Croatian based Balkan languages and dialects do sound extremely rigid and heavy although we all are "classified" as Slavic

    • @theAllucard
      @theAllucard 7 місяців тому +19

      ​@@JesusMagicPanties Slovenian is not Serbo-Croatian, it is a cross between Western Slavic languages and South Slavic languages, most similar to Slovak, according to some linguists.

    • @JesusMagicPanties
      @JesusMagicPanties 7 місяців тому +7

      @@theAllucard Okay, I'm not going to argue , just based on what wiki says about that... However , as a Pole I can speak in Polish to a Slovak, he can speak Slovakian to me - and we understand each other in 90 %. With Slovenian people that is not the case.😄

    • @theAllucard
      @theAllucard 7 місяців тому +12

      @@JesusMagicPanties Yeah I'm not arguing either 😅 I just like linguistics and I'm a Serbo-Croatian speaker. I can understand Macedonian and Bulgarian (not to the same extent as Macedonian) the same way you can Slovakian, but with Slovene it's much harder.

    • @JesusMagicPanties
      @JesusMagicPanties 7 місяців тому +3

      @@theAllucard Serbo-Croatian is in some way more difficult at a basic level for a Pole than even Germanic languages because it is confusing: many words sound identical or familiar, but have pretty much different meanings in both languages.
      I just realized that I am so old that I remember the (then Yugoslavian) band 'Bijelo Dugme'. Very energetic and powerful rock and roll colored with Balkan folklore. Best regards from PL

  • @TheNavalAviator
    @TheNavalAviator 7 місяців тому +30

    Ngl, this is Zizek's best 1 on 1 chat to date. Dialectics at it's finest, pure ideology.

    • @trentmora8094
      @trentmora8094 Місяць тому

      Tell me more about your analysis. Please

    • @TheNavalAviator
      @TheNavalAviator Місяць тому

      ​@@trentmora8094U being ironic?

  • @TheGrun13
    @TheGrun13 7 місяців тому +337

    Introducing Zizek by saying he debated Jordan Peterson is ridiculous. Really? Is that one if his greatest achievements? Peterson is nowhere near Zizek's level of intellectual greatness and moral fortitude.

    • @Tea4Texas
      @Tea4Texas 7 місяців тому +13

      Thought the same.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 6 місяців тому +19

      Me too. I wished he'd replied "Peterson debated me."

    • @mysterynewsbrasil
      @mysterynewsbrasil 6 місяців тому +2

      Behold the Spectacle.

    • @nickidaisydandelion4044
      @nickidaisydandelion4044 6 місяців тому +11

      Peterson is way more alert and pays way more attention to truth than Zizek.

    • @danielnaylor7737
      @danielnaylor7737 6 місяців тому +41

      ​@@nickidaisydandelion4044I couldn't disagree more. Peterson is a lazy intellectual. He's a good orator... but a lazy intellectual. There's obviously no way of knowing that just by looking at Peterson himself though. His self-certified web of truths look brilliantly 'true' by themselves.

  • @pete7110
    @pete7110 8 місяців тому +239

    Spot on Žižek, we live in dangerous times

    • @EstabanGraves
      @EstabanGraves 8 місяців тому +2

      Baltic states….3 ribs in the mouth of the bear (Daniel)?

    • @johnnyvh1188
      @johnnyvh1188 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@EstabanGraves the bear in Daniel's prophetic dream(chapter 7 verse 5) was the Medo-Persian empire that would take over the Babylonian one he was living in as exile at the time.
      The times we live in now are more accurately described in the second letter to Timothy chapter 3 verses 1-5

    • @valgehiir
      @valgehiir 7 місяців тому

      Oh really, I could tell you this. He voted Trump in 16 because Clinton was too radical. It's people like Zizek, well meaning dreamers who ruin the world.

    • @seanpatterson5047
      @seanpatterson5047 7 місяців тому

      @@EstabanGraves that's the silliest thing I have ever read)))

    • @GiacomoRavioli
      @GiacomoRavioli 4 місяці тому

      No we dont. Its all good.

  • @fredking5448
    @fredking5448 8 місяців тому +214

    Zizek is so refreshingly right about this

    • @CemeteryGates17
      @CemeteryGates17 7 місяців тому +17

      @nikosantikythera2422 Fascinating argument, your 3 words, not quite convincing though.

    • @sk-sm9sh
      @sk-sm9sh 6 місяців тому

      It is so obvious that Russias plan after Ukraine is baltic state it's enough to just listen Russian media and yet as someone who's from baltic countries I meet so many people who just can't be convinced Russia isn't going to stop with just getting what they want in Ukraine. People say if Russia just gets Donbas and Crimea and they will be done. No they won't. If we listen Russia media we hear that Russian regime is preparing Russian public for invasion of Baltic states. It's there it's in their public 1st Russian tv channel. All you need is to listen - they are not hiding it. I don't get it why it's so hard to understand it for some.

    • @dwl3006
      @dwl3006 6 місяців тому +2

      @@CemeteryGates17 Maybe watch Mearsheimer, Sachs or Chomsky if you want to hear someone who is actually right about this issue. Zizek has no clue. I never paid attention to him before, but now that I heard this generic whitebread take on such a critical issue, it's apparent that Zizek is not a serious intellectual. Zizek isn't refreshingly right about this, he's exceptionally wrong.

    • @jessew7565
      @jessew7565 6 місяців тому +9

      @@dwl3006 You wrote more words but didn't provide an argument

    • @dwl3006
      @dwl3006 6 місяців тому

      @@jessew7565 I gave you three highly credible sources, did you bother watching any of them? If not, you don't have an informed opinion about this conflict.

  • @vazzaroth
    @vazzaroth 7 місяців тому +82

    I love Zizek, and now that I'm hearing about this book and I'm about to go see if there's an audiobook... with all due respect, NEVER have I hoped the author is NOT the audiobook reader harder, ever before.

    • @LunaLu-00
      @LunaLu-00 6 місяців тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @SuperChiva
      @SuperChiva 3 місяці тому +2

      Oh man. Now I hope it’s him! I love his tics

    • @jfish032
      @jfish032 11 днів тому

      😂💯🤣

  • @robertshepherd5683
    @robertshepherd5683 6 місяців тому +6

    Outstanding. I freaking love the direction that Mr. Zizek has taken. Beautiful.

  • @speak-easyconversations1393
    @speak-easyconversations1393 7 місяців тому +11

    Interviewers probably wiping their faces after this one.

  • @Mahesh-TLYP
    @Mahesh-TLYP 8 місяців тому +152

    Spot on, as always..
    Though the bit about the Bhagavad Gita is sadly misleading: if understood as intended (proper commentary is essential), it is such an invaluable guide for life. That Himmler took its teachings the way he did, is not its fault, in much the same way it’s not the Bible’s fault that Christians (or rather, “Christians”) used it to justify all sorts of abhorrences throughout history.
    As they say, the Devil, too, can quote the scripture!

    • @anurag_4455xxx
      @anurag_4455xxx 8 місяців тому

      Bhagwat Gita's philosophical arguments are complete nonsense and it uses dogma to defend caste system.

    • @tanjaosilic6641
      @tanjaosilic6641 8 місяців тому +3

      Chi sa come mai questo tipo chiamano un filosofo. Non sa cosa parla. Prende un po' di qua un po' di la. Non pare tanto normale. Invece quelli che gli danno una certa importanza sono dei ipocriti.

    • @manpreetbrar838
      @manpreetbrar838 7 місяців тому

      There not listening to us . Sanatan Dharma only obtainable by force ❤ india

    • @TomNoles007
      @TomNoles007 7 місяців тому +17

      ​@user-mc8wi2lg2mThis is wisdom. It is something of an existential dilemma for myself (and I suspect many others) in that: I would really like to believe and be comforted by my faith, however it is clear that the bible was written by eminently flawed humans. I don't begrudge anyone who is able to believe. I have had child bereavement in my life and I yearn to believe I will hold my daughter again. I don't know. I wish peace for anybody who reads this, regardless.

    • @crabconstellation5797
      @crabconstellation5797 7 місяців тому +12

      Yeah, many more horrendous activities were done in the name of Christianity around the world than Bhagavad Gita. In that sense, Zizek's argument for "Christian Atheism" is not valid. Also, the main reason he's a Christain Atheist and is inclined to Christian values is because he was born Christian. I would've really liked it if his book was called Cultural Atheism or something else more appropriate, but I suppose he is promoting himself to a mostly "Christian" audience.

  • @DacianRider
    @DacianRider 8 місяців тому +182

    I love this guy ! ..sniff

  • @PedroFerreira-ze5yp
    @PedroFerreira-ze5yp 8 місяців тому +42

    I feel as jiterry and affected as Slavoj after listening to so many years of ruZZian state propaganda! It really takes a toll on your mind! You start going crazy!

    • @yuriy5376
      @yuriy5376 8 місяців тому

      That’s the point: Russian propaganda is schizophrinogenic by design

  • @DelFlo
    @DelFlo 6 місяців тому +4

    It’s good to see Slavoj healthy and in good spirits! I hope he remains with us for many many years ❤🙏

  • @hectorramssesgarcia4532
    @hectorramssesgarcia4532 5 місяців тому +21

    imagine being more intelligent and having more perspective than the whole world and still having the respect and humbleness to say"I think"

    • @markupton1417
      @markupton1417 5 місяців тому +1

      You nailed it with "imagine."

    • @lovetownsend
      @lovetownsend 5 місяців тому +4

      Bro thinks so fast and deep, It is a miracle he has not gone crazy off the deep end in extreme ideology like Peterson

    • @hectorramssesgarcia4532
      @hectorramssesgarcia4532 5 місяців тому +2

      @@lovetownsend your words matched perfectly, straight facts

    • @michaelo5665
      @michaelo5665 3 місяці тому +1

      I think operating at this level of intelligence and perception leads to humility and respect. Hubris and egotism find their footholds in our blindspots IMHO.

  • @damjanm3585
    @damjanm3585 8 місяців тому +63

    Great interview with lots of valuable thoughts! Hvala, Slavoj!

    • @Anashadk
      @Anashadk 8 місяців тому

      Like 'he needs to use glue to keep his dentures fixed in place'

    • @damjanm3585
      @damjanm3585 8 місяців тому

      @@Anashadk I suppose you are talking about his stuttering.

    • @Anashadk
      @Anashadk 8 місяців тому

      @@damjanm3585 No, I am talking about the unusual sounds he makes, these sounds indicate that his false teeth sit too loose or are missing (bottom jaw).

    • @damjanm3585
      @damjanm3585 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Anashadk I doubt that it is so but my advice, focus on the content of the interview. You will get some knowledge.

    • @DerDop
      @DerDop 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Anashadk your IQ test came negative.

  • @PinPointEye00
    @PinPointEye00 8 місяців тому +27

    The spirit of community is already here - so very true. When thoughts turn to achieving good outcomes amongst people in a group, then the spirit of community is awakened.

    • @gringopapi6985
      @gringopapi6985 6 місяців тому +1

      We should force libertarian minded people to be part of our community

  • @willhipp
    @willhipp 8 місяців тому +22

    What an amazing man! Thank you.

  • @Tymurbondar
    @Tymurbondar 7 місяців тому +1

    This is exactly what I needed to hear. Many public figures appear disconnected from reality, but Žižek really speaks the truth!

  • @gkbhai8962
    @gkbhai8962 6 місяців тому +26

    I don't know if this is what himler said about the bhagavad gita or whether this is zizek's misinterpretation but this is not what the Gita says. The Gita says that even though you love peace and non-violence, sometimes a war against evil is necessary and when you engage in that war you should not identify egoicly and hate your enemy but rather just do what you know is right. Zizek completely misunderstand the profoundity of that text which actually points to spiritual transcendence that is not just a mental idea but an actual realization.

    • @Vatoxido
      @Vatoxido 6 місяців тому +8

      That will always be the problem. This happens when you let the devil read the bible. Himmler did it.

    • @labrinth999
      @labrinth999 5 місяців тому +4

      Yeah I think he missed the point with Eastern religion. The profound realization you gain from looking 'inwards' is the realization that we are empty, that there isn't anything to look inward towards

    • @Reinkarnati0n
      @Reinkarnati0n 5 місяців тому

      it's possible that he misunderstood there some things, thanks for making us see things clearer.

    • @the_0_man
      @the_0_man 5 місяців тому

      @@labrinth999 Westerners found themselves empty within hence they went on to fill that void by conquering land, enslaving people, wiping out civlisations, spreading diseases and what not. Indans found contentment within hence only traded with neighboring civilisations, wrote philosophies, propagated peace.
      As they say ignorance is bliss, let the westerners be devoid of what is there inside.

  • @danielknutson5402
    @danielknutson5402 8 місяців тому +41

    "Well, What do you think now of the French Revolution??" -- "Well, it's too early to say!" Love it, Love it. Bravo!

  • @CollectiveWest1
    @CollectiveWest1 8 місяців тому +88

    Interesting that Zizek, who has provided leftist critiques of ideologies and of capitalism, is so adamant here about support for Ukraine and taking a strong position against the aggression of the Kremlin regime. I had not identified that group of 'Western Buddhists' he mentions, but I know what he means. I'd like to see Zizek talk with Tom Holland, author of 'Dominion'.

    • @VerminaeSupremacy
      @VerminaeSupremacy 7 місяців тому +47

      Slavoj is a very coherent old-school leftist, the dreamer and humanitarian type. One could clamp him with, say, the likes of Chomsky and Finkelstein, but the similarity is only skin-deep. Slavoj is from Central Europe. He has the local grasp and perspective of what empires and brutal regimes, left OR right, here were actually doing. He is not only ideological bordering lunacy and 63n0cide denial at times when it comes to talking frankly about their ideological beloved, but standing knees deep in this soil that keeps him connected with reality.

    • @reb0tco678
      @reb0tco678 7 місяців тому

      Almost as if there is no reason for a leftist to tolerate a right wing dictatorship manifesting its imperial tendencies

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 7 місяців тому +4

      That would be very interesting. I don’t agree with most of what Zizek says, but I respect him, and I love Tom Holland.
      The more I think about it and both their respective works, the more intriguing it becomes, to me. I put the responsibility on you to make this happen.

    • @alexanderjames6020
      @alexanderjames6020 7 місяців тому +9

      @@Dude0000Id love to hear about what you most disagree with Zizek about!

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 7 місяців тому

      @@alexanderjames6020 well, off the top of my head, communism. Seriously, though, why is that a problem? Isn’t that a good thing to admire and be inspired by someone that you fundamentally disagree with. I like to hear his thought process on how he got to where he is, so I can be more comfortable in my own position, but also because my views change constantly in a infinitely complex and changing world.
      We need people with alternative personality traits, as liberals are creative and open, conservatives are conscientious and dutiful. Leftists tend on the neurotic side, conservatives on the assertive/disagreeable side. Liberals start companies, conservatives manage them. That’s, broadly, what they excel at. Also why government is wasteful (liberals managing) and Corporations inflexible and stagnant (Conservatives doing the creative work).
      When the left says ‘Diversity is our Strength’, this is true, if they meant these things, diversity in personality traits, and ideas. Unfortunately, they’re (not all, for sure, including Zizek to his credit) going down the tribalistic route that is deep in the soul of every human’ internal animalistic core, of diversity of immutable characteristics.
      I’ll let you into a secret, since you got this far. I’ve not listened to him in depth for a few years, and since Trump has taken over everything, it would be interesting to see how he has responded.

  • @kanzeon7729
    @kanzeon7729 8 місяців тому +102

    Half an hour is never enough when Zizek is speaking

    • @tonyr4873
      @tonyr4873 7 місяців тому +4

      I could only take 3 minutes of that voice.

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 5 місяців тому +1

      its a ton of blah blah again. it is not going to help anything or solve anything.

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy 3 місяці тому

      Thanks Captain Obvious

  • @bwilsonduncan
    @bwilsonduncan 8 місяців тому +122

    Don't say "The West". Say "The Free World" It drives Putin NUTS !

    • @kkkkkristo
      @kkkkkristo 7 місяців тому +16

      smarter half of the Western population too.

    • @jeneric989
      @jeneric989 7 місяців тому +7

      Smarter half of the *free* population too.
      (edit: spell check)

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 7 місяців тому +3

      Russia has always put a greater premium on security than freedom, due to the geographical and ethnically/culturally diverse and vast nature of the country. If you actually listened to him, directly, instead of using an intermediary to explain it for you, you’d find he’d probably mostly agree.
      Remember the lesson of Mean Mr Mustache Man loving dogs and being vegetarian. Pure good, and pure evil are beyond ideology, or epistemology, philosophy, even etiology, which is why religion is so fundamental to who we are and how we understand the world.

    • @tomislavcuric513
      @tomislavcuric513 7 місяців тому

      Žižek ti si jedna vreča govana

    • @JamieHumeCreative
      @JamieHumeCreative 7 місяців тому +1

      Does it? Good to know. 🥰

  • @sassora
    @sassora 7 місяців тому +6

    The winners create the history we learn, and Shakespeare plays a part in that retrospectively

  • @BenRobinson1974
    @BenRobinson1974 8 місяців тому +53

    We need a lot more Slavoj (and those with a similar analytical approach) in the discourse

  • @AntzvanderDutch
    @AntzvanderDutch 8 місяців тому +45

    I like this man, and I want to read his book (s).

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 8 місяців тому

      Know any titles? I reccommend his "perverrts guide to..." documentsties.

    • @ridge7524
      @ridge7524 7 місяців тому +1

      He sounds like he is very moral.I need to listen to more but he's right about the imperial march against the west and some here are helping them.That's not America First.
      .🇺🇲💙🗽

  • @uuball
    @uuball 8 місяців тому +31

    Happy birthday Slavoj! :)

  • @funki4896
    @funki4896 8 місяців тому +73

    6:38 in what way were they oppressed?!? They had the same citizen rights, there were schools that taught in Russian everywhere and the media was almost completely Russian altough most Ukrainians are Ukrainian speakers. It's rather even the opposite - the Ukrainian speaking majority was oppressed. If you didn't speak Russian before 2014 you could be discriminated at your work, in school in the media and if you spoke Ukrainian some Russian speakers would even physically attack you. I'm not kidding. The majority being oppressed by a minority is nothing special - it happens in basically every colonial country like in South Africa where an even slimmer minority oppressed the indigenous majority.

    • @EdwardM-t8p
      @EdwardM-t8p 7 місяців тому +9

      I think Slavoj is talking about what went on in the Donbass district after Russia's illegal taking of Crimea and the rise of "pro-Russian separatists".

    • @EdwardM-t8p
      @EdwardM-t8p 7 місяців тому +12

      ​@@user-mc8wi2lg2m In what way? In Republican run states in the US it's exactly the opposite!

    • @Nethan2000
      @Nethan2000 7 місяців тому +3

      @@EdwardM-t8p Being denied access to other people's children is not oppression.

    • @e4arakon
      @e4arakon 7 місяців тому +20

      @@Nethan2000 Being denied access to sex education is though. It's a big driver of teenage pregnancies, self harming behaviour, lack of help in abuse situations and so on and so on

    • @Paul-km9ox
      @Paul-km9ox 7 місяців тому +4

      ukraine is russia, kievan rus is russia, pick up a book once in a while

  • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
    @MikeFuller-ok6ok 7 місяців тому +6

    "Man is born free but he is everywhere in chains."
    Jean-Jacques Rousseau ( 1712 - 1778 )

    • @TheUltimegaMan
      @TheUltimegaMan 5 місяців тому +1

      If he is in chains everywhere, then how can he possibly ever have been free?

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 5 місяців тому

      @@TheUltimegaMan
      Thanks for the reply.
      Rousseau was a great philosopher. He knew what he was talking about.

    • @TheUltimegaMan
      @TheUltimegaMan 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MikeFuller-ok6ok Oh, I’m sure he did. Doesn’t make him right or wrong though. That’s the main problem with philosophy, you can very eloquently say some very profoundly wrong ideas. It is both an art and an intellectual endeavor, both of which makes it easier to obscure reality under linguistics.

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TheUltimegaMan
      We are all free when we come into the world but we have to conform to the demands and pressures of what is accepted and we have to follow a system and code of life. We need keys, credit cards, phones, money, cars, houses, heating, entertainment to keep us happy, sex, health care, cleanliness, holidays, and clean clothes. These things are essential to maintain a respectable figure in the world and for our well being, but we are born oblivious to these demands set upon us by the civilized world.

  • @immukohonen7871
    @immukohonen7871 8 місяців тому +59

    I love this gentleman. I became a fan.

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 8 місяців тому +5

      Yes, a pure personality. Deep, uncomplicated intellect. ❤

    • @tomislavcuric513
      @tomislavcuric513 7 місяців тому

      Boljševik zizek

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 7 місяців тому

      Fool.

    • @thetruthis24
      @thetruthis24 7 місяців тому +1

      This gentleman is so cool.
      I became an air conditioner.

    • @janeza382
      @janeza382 7 місяців тому

      You are Christian or Athesit?!

  • @symbionet
    @symbionet 8 місяців тому +11

    Nice to hear some new thinking rather than the same dumb down pro/anti opinions on things. Lots to mull over. Thanks times radio.

  • @Fevebblefester
    @Fevebblefester 8 місяців тому +26

    Are they crazy he asks. Why yes they are. And crazy like stupidity loves company.

  • @uffepedersen4151
    @uffepedersen4151 7 місяців тому +2

    Times Radio does a lot of great work. This is some of the finest. Thanks.

  • @SuperMagnum2011
    @SuperMagnum2011 8 місяців тому +10

    Amazing interview
    thank you Times ..
    thank you Slavoj .
    Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦

  • @inzhener2007
    @inzhener2007 8 місяців тому +20

    No, Russians or Russian speakers were never oppressed anywhere in Ukraine ever. There has never been separatism in Ukraine, even in Crimea, other than what Moscow incepted, funded, organized, commanded and controlled. Ever. I know because I served in the Russian military.

    • @zeeninetynine
      @zeeninetynine 8 місяців тому +1

      Def, there were divisions and struggle for sure but nothing like oppression.

  • @hrvojesvetec3058
    @hrvojesvetec3058 8 місяців тому +12

    Dam!.missed out on ths awesome man..my new idol!😊👍

    • @ginemginem
      @ginemginem 8 місяців тому +3

      A nice jumping in point would be to see his film "A Perverts Guide to Cinema"

  • @calebr6747
    @calebr6747 7 місяців тому +9

    The irony of an old philosopher and a journalist debating war with Russia when neither would be the ones fighting it.

  • @rajidahae4220
    @rajidahae4220 6 місяців тому +3

    Reframing the Christ narrative as the death of god is mindblowing and I love it.

  • @martycrow
    @martycrow 8 місяців тому +48

    Now listen to Zizek's exchange with Piers Morgan. Good too.

    • @markoljubi4396
      @markoljubi4396 8 місяців тому +8

      i think you can not compare them, Žižek is not taking sides, he is only objective observer, while Morgan is more riding wave of popularity, not the real thinker

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow 8 місяців тому +5

      @@markoljubi4396 Zizek has taken to saying that he is a conservative Marxist. So he is 'taking sides' even though it is complex and ambiguous. BTW, I was not comparing Zizek to Piers Morgan, but the former's appearance on the latter's show. The idea that you could imply otherwise was irritating enough to make me reply. Enjoy!

    • @calzonelover3950
      @calzonelover3950 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@markoljubi4396 Zizek is definitely more of a "real thinker" compared to Morgan but he would not call himself and objective observer, his whole critique of ideology is that you can't separate yourself from it to be impartial etc

  • @ahartify
    @ahartify 8 місяців тому +20

    I am not sure I agree with Slavoj ( even if I agree with everything else he saysk) about Europe as merely a 'museum' state. Where does China and the US buy all their high-end stuff from? Europe, of course! Planes, cars, military, technology, champagne, clothing, food, etc....

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum 7 місяців тому +12

      Selling mostly luxury goods is another example of being a museum state! Luxury items have cachet because of the castles and the great painters and dramatists and all of that. A Swiss watch isn't really better than a Japanese one, but they sell for more. It's the "chocolate box" part of European culture that sells all of these expensive goods. Stylish Italians and superior French food. The myth, rather than the modern reality.
      Of course Europe doesn't just make luxury goods, but those are the ones foreigners are most interested in buying. Britain makes lots of food but nobody would import it!

    • @velvetimpulse
      @velvetimpulse 7 місяців тому +2

      Especially when it comes to industrial tech, worldwide, most of it is European.

  • @tjasagustin3342
    @tjasagustin3342 8 місяців тому +7

    Bravo! Thank you!

  • @hannamakela6989
    @hannamakela6989 7 місяців тому +8

    I am a leftist and NOT AT ALL a centrist. And I agree that to side with Putin because he is anti-Nato is just horrible. To be critical of Nato is legitimate. But not because you want to excuse Putinism or Russia's attack on Ukraine. You can be pro-Ukraine and leftist at the same time, whether or not you are wholeheartedly a Nato fan or not.

    • @michaelkillpack5102
      @michaelkillpack5102 4 місяці тому

      How can you be a leftist and pro-Ukrainian government? They are a right wing government.

  • @gezusmofo
    @gezusmofo 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey his stuttering / fidgeting has gotten much better! Love to see it!

  • @AlexthunderGnum
    @AlexthunderGnum 8 місяців тому +16

    Bravo Slavoj Zizek!

  • @MichelC2000
    @MichelC2000 8 місяців тому +20

    Unfortunately for the argument, the Bhagavad Gita is not Buddhist

    • @КороткийГеннадий
      @КороткийГеннадий 8 місяців тому +7

      Yeah! He speaks the real bs

    • @blascantu7221
      @blascantu7221 8 місяців тому +21

      He didn’t call it Buddhist. He mentions Buddhism but he was speaking more broadly of eastern religions and Hinduism is an eastern religion.

    • @MichelC2000
      @MichelC2000 8 місяців тому +12

      @@blascantu7221This individual, in the same breadth, associates “top US corporate managers” who declare themselves Buddhists with Heinrich Himmler, the architect of the final solution, because, I am assuming, he is reading the Bhagavad Gita. Then continues to claim that both Buddhist and Hindu philosophies profess detachment from acts committed, which, in my evaluation, can only show malicious disingenuousness or utter ignorance of both. And, this person concludes that Christianity is therefore preferable because it is centered around love…
      Anyone who has read page one of any introduction to Buddhism will know that the core tenets of Buddhism are to do no harm and love all living things.

    • @xXVeranXx
      @xXVeranXx 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MichelC2000 yes, thank you! I found that really frustrating

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss 7 місяців тому +10

      @@MichelC2000 Regarding your last sentence, fine, but... is a religion/philosophy what someone wrote long ago, or what its practitioners do today? Half of America's self-described Christians are willing to "lie for Jesus", are happy to cast the first stone, pray loudly and publicly to be seen doing so, and would probably crucify Jesus if he returned as just another brown guy from the Middle East telling them to care for the poor immigrants. And they would say that he wasn't a real Christian. As for Buddhists, the priests in Myanmar are persecuting the Rohingya and have no trouble quoting whatever they need to pretend it is not a genocide. I think all we can count on is that people pick their religion to fit their politics, and their politics to fit their fear and prejudice.

  • @elmarwolters2751
    @elmarwolters2751 7 місяців тому +3

    Brilliant stuff , thanks guys

  • @megana.6491
    @megana.6491 7 місяців тому

    Such a wonderful interview. Thank you for having Zizek on for this conversation.

  • @majorbrighton
    @majorbrighton 8 місяців тому +6

    I’m sorry, yet you don’t seem to have given any thought to the questions you’ve asked.
    As if we are not already aware of the situation and how it’s developed after two years.
    Anyone who does not understand Putin lies and the injustice by now, should be asked to leave the room.

  • @canitbu6217
    @canitbu6217 8 місяців тому +9

    Absolutely Fascinating! To say the least. Incite insight!

  • @letsRegulateSociopaths
    @letsRegulateSociopaths 8 місяців тому +6

    Slavoj i agree, if we do not take action, the fascists will.

  • @jajatisinha3579
    @jajatisinha3579 7 місяців тому +14

    He understands nothing about bhagawat Gita...just by noting that himmler read Gita doesn't mean anything..it's one of the most profound books...rather it's only a chapter of the great Indian epic ..Mahabharat

    • @fathomless2151
      @fathomless2151 7 місяців тому +4

      I think there’s truth to its misuse and Buddhism’s misuse as a whole surely you don’t support Myanmar’s theocracy or Imperial Japan’s use of Zen Buddhism. Doesn’t mean the religion is wrong it just means that, like Christianity, people use it wrongly.

    • @firstnamelastname5925
      @firstnamelastname5925 7 місяців тому

      @@fathomless2151Gita is Hindu not Buddhist lol
      Cool political take though, maybe look up the book first next time.

  • @DarqIce
    @DarqIce 7 місяців тому +1

    Quantum superposition of possible outcomes - very apt. I don't often agree with Žižek, but in this particular interview, it's like he's channeling my own thinking....

  • @diavalitemusic
    @diavalitemusic 19 днів тому +1

    This is the only person that makes any sense in todays polarized culture

  • @evaburnz
    @evaburnz 8 місяців тому +7

    I needed to hear this discussion.
    Mr Zizek (apologies but I cannot apply the necessary accents for his family name) is a rational and morally measured character who provides a direct and judicious assessment of religion, politics and various social structures based on their geographical regions.

  • @Sharp931
    @Sharp931 7 місяців тому +6

    I didn't expect an X-files reference. 😂

  • @MichaelMarko
    @MichaelMarko 7 місяців тому +8

    Zizek did not debate Peterson. He babysat him!

  • @A21Joker
    @A21Joker 8 місяців тому +4

    I couldn't usually listen to this guy, but he is spot on here.

  • @VicariousReality7
    @VicariousReality7 7 місяців тому +18

    When you say democracy, you actually mean a minority ruling class with divine mandate of being liked

    • @charlesbrowne9590
      @charlesbrowne9590 5 місяців тому

      And when you say ‘monarchy’, you actually mean rule of law and elected public officials.

    • @alessandrozetticci
      @alessandrozetticci 5 місяців тому

      ​@charlesbrowne9590 Yes.

  • @XAdi77
    @XAdi77 8 місяців тому +13

    I feel bad to say never heard of mr. Zizek until now. I find this kind of discussions enlightening, like THIS is what we should talk and think about more often. I'' try to find more about him. Thank you!

    • @ginemginem
      @ginemginem 8 місяців тому +3

      Try and find his film "A Perverts Guide to Cinema" I think it's a nice jumping in point.

    • @sezwo5774
      @sezwo5774 8 місяців тому +1

      Me too. Thanks.

  • @agus.lorenzo
    @agus.lorenzo 7 місяців тому +4

    Zizek is wrong when he says eastern’s approach to “looking inwards to achieve knowledge” will lead to find hate so we should avoid it. He is extremely wrong about this because he doesn’t understand Brahman, Bhagavad Gita or even the philosophies of Quakerism (which in fact are western!). All of them teach that when you truly look inside to find knowledge, what you will find is that we are all part of the same, and we should find a way to heal by uniting in peace. If Himmler used that to logic “I am not my actions therefore I can do whatever I want” then he didn’t really look inward, but instead only scratched the surface enough to justify his evil actions to himself (which is just Ego).
    Himmler did not achieve gnosis, otherwise he would’ve understood that jews are the same as him, and therefore he wouldn’t have commited genocide.
    THAT’s the truth Zizek doesn’t get about eastern philosophy and religion.

    • @TheGordeaux
      @TheGordeaux 7 місяців тому +1

      so true. he's clearly wrong about this stuff, imo.

    • @moniqueloomis9772
      @moniqueloomis9772 2 місяці тому

      You're the naive people he spoke about. Your argument is HOW it should be, but do you honestly think most people will get to that point to truly look at who they really are and love others?

    • @evangelion045
      @evangelion045 23 дні тому

      ​@@moniqueloomis9772 your question applies similarly to Christianity and any political ideology.

  • @LepenskiVir
    @LepenskiVir 4 місяці тому

    I don't care what anybody says, whatever this man says is pure gold.

  • @darioburatovich2240
    @darioburatovich2240 2 місяці тому

    Slavoj, druže muoj, zaboravjosi robotik i Artificijalna Inteligencija ...čaćemo mi biti, kad več nima treba od nas, bidni "human beings" ??...
    Si no fuera pa yora', seria pa' rairse.🇦🇷

  • @eirli1
    @eirli1 8 місяців тому +18

    Deep good analys 😊

  • @kubuhzz-lm2786
    @kubuhzz-lm2786 7 місяців тому +6

    😂😂😂😂 what a comesy guy he is , has nothing in his head

  • @Chad-xs2de
    @Chad-xs2de 7 місяців тому +3

    The "moderate left" is the only thing holding back fascism. Who would the UK rather have in power - the current right wing Tory government or a "moderate left" leader who engages in harm reduction?

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 6 місяців тому

      Who wants to disarm the population - right or left wing?
      Who wants to take ever more of your earned money and give it to bureaucrats to "Redistribute (tm)" - right or left?
      Who in just last few years in US tried to create a government run "disinformation task force" and decree what information is 'true', or 'false' and therefore banned form social media - right or left?
      Two-year long house arrest for millions of people who weren't even suspected of doing anything illegal; canadian government declaring emergency when people are unhappy about it; seizes people's bank accounts just for donating money to protesters (no court hearings, no due process) - is it fascism yet?
      Since then, the court decided that canadian government broke the law (emergency could not be lawfully declared just because PM does not like protests) - is PM punished? Is ANYONE punished?

  • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
    @nonyadamnbusiness9887 7 місяців тому +1

    Don't warmonger and talk to me about saving democracy at the same time.

  • @strauchdieb7628
    @strauchdieb7628 День тому

    I love how Zizek manages to bridge real Conservatism with true Progressivism through his philosophy.

  • @GabrielLeni
    @GabrielLeni 8 місяців тому +11

    Fascinating

  • @patzan48
    @patzan48 8 місяців тому +6

    The Genius strikes again.

  • @joearizona8892
    @joearizona8892 8 місяців тому +5

    His intelligence is astonishing

  • @AlessandroZir
    @AlessandroZir 7 місяців тому

    thank you!!! I never thought I would see this conversation here; ❤❤

  • @dlmb7328
    @dlmb7328 7 місяців тому

    Thank You Sir for this enlightening discussion topic. Much food for thought! Well done to you and your interviewer.

  • @justtiredthings
    @justtiredthings 7 місяців тому +15

    Everyone's falling over themselves in the comments, but if you ask me Zizek is basically a nominally-left version of a Jordan Petersen or Ben Shapiro, except that he's educated and unorthodox enough to remain interesting. He's constantly generating extremely dubious premises or incredibly subjective and symbolic angles on the phenomena that he needs to force-fit to support his positions; he jumps from non-sequitur to non-sequitur at a dizzying pace and can barely string together a 3-step logical argument. He's fascinating to watch, and I think his frenetically divergent mind certainly provides food for thought and might challenge dogmatic thinking patterns, but I don't think that he brings much substance to the table, ultimately.

    • @Tomislavr7
      @Tomislavr7 6 місяців тому +1

      He feels like creative AI when you ask it to talk about something complex. :D But yeah, not someone to be taken seriously.

    • @alessandrozetticci
      @alessandrozetticci 5 місяців тому +1

      I agree.
      I'll give him something though, the language barrier.
      I went back to some of his points that appeared nonsensical, and by thinking a bit creatively and charitably I concluded that maybe it's the way he employs certain terms.
      But still, yeah, he's kinda full of it, the western-centrism is through the roof with him, too.

    • @justtiredthings
      @justtiredthings 5 місяців тому

      @@alessandrozetticci I haven't read any of his books--maybe they're more cogent

  • @mojmejl6279
    @mojmejl6279 8 місяців тому +6

    Brilliant!

  • @YoungBillyKatastrophe
    @YoungBillyKatastrophe 7 місяців тому +6

    When did we have a "Democracy" in the first place 😂😂😂

  • @PedjolinoMarkovic
    @PedjolinoMarkovic 7 місяців тому +1

    Žižek has finally found a narrative that he will respect in order to stop his cancelling. Bravo!

  • @JamesBurke713
    @JamesBurke713 7 місяців тому +1

    Rebranding the fundamental principles of communism to Christian Atheism is pure genius. "A religion of commitment", a commitment to the common good.
    What Zizek proposes is an overhaul of a historically developed deeply intrinsic cultural ideology that permeates the entire social psyche; an improbable task.

    • @nicholashanson9508
      @nicholashanson9508 7 місяців тому

      but communism is evil

    • @Jelkitosix666
      @Jelkitosix666 5 місяців тому

      and its as cringe and "protestant minded" as the other ones have been

  • @MattSmith-rr2he
    @MattSmith-rr2he 7 місяців тому +8

    "I love NATO and I think we should give one zillion dollars to Ukraine."
    -The most dangerous philosopher in the west

    • @jessew7565
      @jessew7565 6 місяців тому

      time stamp? where did he say that

  • @wabalaladabdab
    @wabalaladabdab 8 місяців тому +5

    He's so spot on

  • @stevenjohns-savage7024
    @stevenjohns-savage7024 8 місяців тому +8

    Okay I'm listening

  • @3zzzTyle
    @3zzzTyle 6 місяців тому +1

    The truth is out there and the truth is that Trump is based.

  • @thenativeson5071
    @thenativeson5071 5 місяців тому +1

    This guy is the embodiment of the ultimate villain.
    Very dangerous man

    • @pumpkin5798
      @pumpkin5798 5 місяців тому +1

      maybe it just scares you becouse it goes against everything you were ever told

  • @christiangarcorz9182
    @christiangarcorz9182 8 місяців тому +6

    À réal great guy thinking deeply ! Bravo !

  • @vladdoliak5926
    @vladdoliak5926 8 місяців тому +11

    Very interesting interview. The only problem is that Slavoj falsely stated that there was a persecution of the Donbas people. Such a fundamental misconception.

    • @megaponful
      @megaponful 6 місяців тому +3

      There was, not anymore since Russia is there now.

  • @Viktor-gk5ri
    @Viktor-gk5ri 8 місяців тому +4

    Brilliant interview.

  • @TomekSw
    @TomekSw 8 місяців тому +4

    Starts at 1:37

  • @pjamesbda
    @pjamesbda 5 місяців тому

    10:54 ...love is at the core - thank you Slavoj for reminding us.

  • @nataliazkontekstu
    @nataliazkontekstu 7 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant mind! I wish I could follow his books more easily.

  • @mariontoffan1943
    @mariontoffan1943 8 місяців тому +16

    Wow how good - Putin as a dangerous illegitimate leader. The two of you are brilliant. Putin needs a long starchy dress to get into the role of his Czarina Catherine the Great. She's his alter ego. He needs to start to wear a lotta lace to bring back the 1700's.

  • @finnishview2933
    @finnishview2933 8 місяців тому +5

    Interesting conversation indeed. Can agree fully what he said abt big corporations, todays world is controlled by big tech corporations.

  • @TanDeRamos
    @TanDeRamos 8 місяців тому +6

    Was struggling to find my philosophical compass but not anymore.

  • @seanmellows1348
    @seanmellows1348 5 місяців тому

    Excellent interview with a fascinating intellectual. I might even buy that book.

  • @cazwalt9013
    @cazwalt9013 6 місяців тому

    As a religious catholic, I would like to summarize his effort on his explanation of Christianity in where the Bible says "reject yourself" I really appreciate him for this description

  • @markoleary1601
    @markoleary1601 8 місяців тому +4

    Sum GOOD points dude....