Ending Putin's invasion: Military experts outline the future of Russia, Ukraine and NATO 2 years on
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- To mark two years since the beginning of the 2024 invasion of Ukraine, we speak to an expert panel with first hand experience of defence, diplomacy and the war in Ukraine.
Joining us are:
- Defence Analyst and former director of RUSI Michael Clark
- Documentary maker and journalist Nick Sturdee, who has visited Ukraine multiple times since 2014
- Lord George Robertson Former Secretary General of NATO and a former defence secretary
All three discussed how NATO can bring the war to a close and how the war in Ukraine could be the misstep that ends Putin's regime.
Speaking on a panel on Times Radio's Frontline with Kate Gerbeau Lord Robertson said:
"The Ukrainians have taken back half the territory that the Russians took and the first stage of the war. They really have stayed close together, which was not Putin's expectation. NATO has grown by two neutral countries. Now joining the the Americans are welded and the West and Europe, again, in a way that Vladimir Putin had not anticipated. So, you know, the idea that that is the sort of stalemate at the moment, and that means that the Ukrainians are not winning. It also means that the Russians are not winning and that Putin has made a dangerous gamble where he has lost maybe, you know, 300,000 young people and converted his whole long term economy into something that will never again be the the model that he wanted it to be."
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You know who controls you when you know who you can not criticise
In some places, it is a person, in others, an idea.
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@@FreddBoggz1st Interesting, now enthusiastic Putin supporters! How ironic, when you remember the Chechnya war.
@@willdon.1279Or Georgia
USA either started or enabled virtually every war since WW2
As a lifelong republican i am shocked and very angry that the congress is refusing to support Ukraine and its fight for freedom and life....i won't vote republican again 😢😢😢
I called and told my GOP congress members and told them not one more dime. Ukraine is lost. No more money for them. Negotiate. They gave more money, and I will not be voting for them either.
@@bassmanjr100The fact that your position is that and you claim to be a Republican is a joke. You aren't Republican, you are MAGA, there is a difference. The Republicans were the party of Lincoln and Reagan. The fact that you are unwilling to aid a democratic ally against invasion from an authoritarian dictator is all I need to see you support Trump. That is exactly what he says.
@@bassmanjr100
Pootin says thank you💀💀💀
Ronald Reagan's Party is dead.
The Republican party in the US is dead and has been for some time.
They drew a line, protect our border BEFORE another dime to anyone else. Our own house is a disaster and you are a fool.
Tell us about the Minsk accords. And the war in the Donbas since 2014
A bit like Angela Merkel. Or did you miss that interview?
At least you're calling it a war. Be careful where you say that comrade. In some places it's only legal to call it a special military operation. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Stomper66666 Yes. Putin's bots are really trying hard to make themselves out as victims when they themselves are the aggressors. It's the same abusive dynamic in spousal abuses where the man says: "Look what you made me do!" when he's beating his wife for not washing his clothes. Gaslighting all the way.
Or tell about the the US led revolution 2004 and the US led military coup 2014 etc etc.
@@RaveYoda You are missing the point. USA/UK/NATO/Ukraine started the WAR on Ukrainian citizens in Eastern Ukraine, killing civilians daily.
Russia launched SMO to stop that war. Easy to understand if you go back to 2014 reports openly showing how Ukrainian military were killing people of Donbass 10 years ago. Even CNN were showing the truth back then. But later rhetoric was changed.
I think one thing should be noted, much of the Media hasn’t followed this War as thoroughly as UA-cam.
THE CIA BUDGET WAS SPENT ON UA-cam WERE PEOPLE ARE PAID TO CREATE FAKE NEWS.
The same 'experts' who got even all the basics completely wrong. Save the hot air and send them to fight for a few years. See how they can do with wet feet. Most would not last a day...
Exactly 💯💯😎👍
Yeah, and how long would you last? Few hours? Hot air also from you
Good officers don't necessarily make good soldiers and vise versa.
@@walterbo7687cope much? You have no argument. Pathetic.
ANO, LIKE RUSSIA IS GONNA RUN OUT OF AMMO LOL
Thanks for this special!
The failure of the counter offensive is mostly a failure of the west.
Everybody knows that key weapons were never delivered, quantities were much lower than demanded, delivery was painfully slow and key targets like Kherch bridge were prohibited.
It's obvious that western leaders never wanted Ukraine to win (too fast) in fear of Putin escalating.
The jeopardy failed, Biden even miscalculated with american support package.
I see miserable bad long term planning in the west while Russia spreads chaos all around the world (HAMAS, Houthis, Africa, ...) and disperses attention.
The lessons from WW2 were not taken.
Stfup your Israel killed 28000 people 70 % children and women. And still open your f… m
Don't leave America out ; Russia infiltrated there also . Who knew President Biden would be Putin's puppet. After his treason ; now Biden is trying to crawl back as though nothing he did was wrong
SLAVA UKRAINI ❤❤❤ 😊😊😂 ! America is sorting that mess out now . See why no leader of any country should be able to serve for long terms to be able to completely destroy the country he leads .
Excellent piece. Radio free Europe and other suggestions were very important.
Kate Gerbeau - One of the last of the great Anchors/Journalists.
I have a crush.
It's more than time to end this madness !!!!
Great idea,, how?
@@thegoldensnitch6312peace talks
Putler at any time could end this in a second.
There are a lot of countries that could alter the planet in a second - doesn't give a reason for fighting for democracy and freedom. Never a good day to die.@@jeremymanson1781
Theboss,
And full withdrawal to 1991 borders, right?
Russhists leave Ukraine and go home, right?
Otherwise, no.
Insightful, thanks to all.
What will Ukraine do when Trump becomes president? He has promised to stop sending money and weapons to Ukraine and the EU and NATO are following USA will also decrease their help to Ukraine. It is horrible!!!
USA have many many times broken agreements and this will just be one in the history of many. Thanks to USA Germany and EU will just leave Ukraine to itself to appease Russia because of Russias nuclear capabilities and without USA Europe is nothing without Americas help. Europe will sacrifice Ukraine for their own cowardice and security. But you can't appease a monster like Putin. He will only continue if he is not stopped NOW!!!
Please contact your local politicians and explain this!!! Please put pressure on USA by protests and sending emails and letters to the people in power!
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET UKRAINE!!!!
Just like USA abandoned the Kurds fighting against ISIS, they will abandoned Ukraine!! But this time the enemy has nuclear weapons and is the worlds 2nd largest army!!
Ukraines future is ours!!!
PLEASE FIGHT FOR UKRAINES FREEDOM!
BECAUSE THAT IS ALL OURS FREEDOM!!!!
'Russian warship, eff off', that was a big moment
Although I realize that many people may disagree, I believe that the error that NATO has made with Russia in regard
to Ukraine, has been in not being anywhere near aggressive enough. I believe that deterrence is very important. I think that
great efforts should be made to either stop bad things from happening or to stop them from getting worse.
I think that a major motivator for Putin's actions in regard to Ukraine starting with the 2014 invasion and annexation
of Crimea, has been his belief that the West is indecisive and scared and that he could get away with doing pretty
much anything that he wanted to.
I believe that the primary reason for the inadequate reaction of NATO has been fear of a nuclear conflict. Basically,
I believe that through nonsensical bluffs and the West's own independent fear, Putin and his cronies have succeeded
in cowing the NATO alliance into allowing Russia to seize Crimea in 2014 and begin a new invasion in 2022 that could
result in Ukraine's eventual defeat.
I believe that the chances of Russia's using nuclear weapons in Ukraine is miniscule at best. If Putin/Russia used nuclear weapons,
I am sure they realize that they could easily be "signing their own death warrant" which I very much doubt they have much interest in
doing. I strongly believe that corrupt government officials and oligarchs who spend billions of dollars of stolen money on colossal yachts
and mansions have very little interest in committing suicide in attempts to keep stolen lands in Ukraine. People who are very interested in
worldly goods of great luxury, are expressing a strong desire to go on living.
When Russia seized Crimea in 2014, I believe that the U.S. and the rest of NATO should have told Putin in "no uncertain terms", that if
Russian forces did not immediately leave Crimea, they would send their military into Crimea and destroy the Russian forces
that were present there. If Russia had not complied with that demand, then NATO should have made that threat a reality. These actions
almost surely would have prevented the 2022 Ukraine war from happening and could have saved hundreds of thousands of Ukranian
lives.
In 2022 when U.S. intelligence predicted that Russia was about to invade Ukraine, the U.S. and the rest of NATO should have warned
Putin/Russia, that if they go ahead with their invasion, then the combined NATO forces would enter Ukraine and destroy the Russian
military that was present. Again, I think that that this action could have very possibly stopped the Russian invasion before it happened.
I still believe that the U.S. and the rest of NATO should take direct and aggressive action now in the war in Ukraine. I believe that the combined
NATO forces should send into Ukraine a very large military force and destroy the Russian military that is present there. Russia is no longer
a super-power and has not been one since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russia has demonstrated in Ukraine for all to see, that it does
not have a great military. The Russians are well aware that they cannot possibly successfully stand up to the U.S. alone or to the combined
forces of NATO. The only real danger that Russia has is a large nuclear arsenal that I would strongly suggest that they dare not use. Confronting
Russia on a Ukrainian battlefield would in fact not create "World War III". - This is a myth. The 32 countries that make up NATO versus Russian forces that
are present in Ukraine, is not a World War. It is the total destruction of those Russian forces that have invaded Ukraine. NATO needs to "grow a backbone".
China, North Korea and Iran are not sending armies to Ukraine to fight "shoulder to shoulder" with Russia. - This is not going to happen. This threat of
World War III is little more than nonsense that Russian would dearly love for the West to believe.
Russia should be forced to give back to Ukraine, every inch of land that they have illegally seized including Crimea. After all Ukrainian lands have been
returned, Russia should be compelled to pay backbreaking reparations to rebuild all of Ukraine that they have destroyed.
A stern message needs to be sent to all aggressor nations that all they will receive for their actions is military defeat, isolation and economic collapse.
Jameskellog83
I totally agree 1000%
with every word you wrote!
If only the WEST would wake up!!!!!!
Ukraine MUST WIN!!!!!!!’
Russian shovels seemed very effective.
Yeah, they're so effective they shortened a 3 week victory to only 2 years. Good of you to catch that.
@@JamesStreet-tp1vb It definitely would've been 3 days if ukraine never got sponsored😂😂
@@JamesStreet-tp1vbGood on you for realizing Ukraine has received 250 BILLION in aid.😂😂😂
What differences does it make how much aid Ukraine gets? And, if you're going to lie, lie like a Russian. We're keeping a promise to provide security to Ukraine. The same promise Russia made. And, you need more laughing emojis in your post when you pretend you're laughing
Edit When Russia tried to take Kyiv and not only failed but failed MISERABLY all Ukraine had at that time was NLAWs, Javelins and Stingers--hand held weapons. Three days? Russia couldn't beat its meat in 3 daya.
@@JamesStreet-tp1vb You sound emotional.
The Shovels and Dishwashers have captured the most fortified frontline in Ukraine. How do you comment this?
They would just deflect like a typical leftist and say "you're a traitor for Putin." It's no different than saying you're a "racist" if you question immigration, etc, etc.
They have yes. And lost 9ver 50,000 and 600 armour tanks and APVS doing it! That's larger than most top,level armies today! Just to gain a single town and advance 5 miles!
Numbers from Dr. Göbbels & friends.@@bartconnolly6104
How? Meatwave after meatwave,
When you trade 50,000 shovels for a toothpick and claim you got a good deal.
This is insanity
Thank you Kate for a very informative show!! 👍👍
Fitting that Kate hosted this two year anniversary edition.
Amazing. While all the media are reporting on the devastating loss of the second largest city of Ukraine and largest industrial area (Avdiivka, now named "Avdeevka" by Russia who took over that whole area) here we hear that Putin is finished... and the commentators here actually believe it. That's the power of propaganda. Hearing the same lies over and over again many become convinced it's factual. 🤣
I would suggest on UA-cam watching: "Ukraine on fire - Oliver Stone # Greek subs / Documentary"
@@lodewijklangeweg742 ah interesting, good suggestion
scripted talk it mean not allowing personal decision , the truth about politicianism is that it dont allow personal decision not even the democrats not even the republicans none , population is forced to go in a way which they never accepted and never decided instead to allow personal separate decision
Where did you find these experts? Retirees?
And your claim to fame is…?
Excellent. Thanks for this.
Kate you have the best show on Russia/Ukraine war and kremlin in general. Super informative and useful. Thank you
How is it that one person gets to hold the whole world hostage?
Tought the same. The sheer power this one person hold is insane and it is terrifying that everyone near him is folding along.
😔
A good bit of the blame for the Russian "traffic jam" can be placed on corruption and lack of discipline regarding SOP first tired equipment was equipped with Chinese tires but not the military versions but the civilian versions because they were cheaper and so funds could be pocketed. Secondly the equipment which was in storage was not properly maintained for example the routine movement of vehicles that is necessary just so that they don't always have one side facing the sun caused the civilian Chinese tires to deteriorate and burst on the exposed side. Maintaining a standard Table of Organization & Equipment as is done in most western militaries would have prevented that otherwise simple problem.
Insightful, indicative of the Russians, how unprepared they are for war, and this is after the WW ll, which also caught them off guard and on the back foot. As they say, if you don't learn, you are bound to repeat history, this is do or die situation, that's war for Russia, a nation so backward and unprepared. It offers them hope, the choice, either to escalate and mobilize, get serious, or roll into fetal position and stick their foot in their mouth. Putin seems to be a fighter, otherwise he wouldn't be feared so much, and everyone respects strong men, they have a backbone and a brain, unlike politicians, even fear is respect in disguise, coming from the cowardly.
@@enndee989 Ah - politicians, no backbone, or answerable to electors?
Benevolent dictators, ideal government, especially with wise, not corrupt advisers they actually listen to...
They tend not to last, and people migrate towards those flawed democracies. Away from the dictators, warlords, kleptocrats.
But the wretched Russians, away from the cities, are between a rock and a hard place.
Just say Incompetant!
@@dave-hp3rf sounds about right with a good bit of corruption in the mix.
Thank you for the reporting and update. :-)
Two years and still in the middle of a military operation that will last not more than 15 days.
If most politicians and commentators agree that it is imperative that Putin loses, why in the UK and across the West are we not ramping up our industrial output as a matter of urgency, so that we can effectively supply Ukraine and ourselves for war. It seems a contradiction that political leaders, military commanders and other experts across the majority of the West say we must defeat Putin but then do not seem to act with sufficient urgency to get our weapon supples up to scale, this causes confusion amongst the population and emboldens Putin.
Because our industry has been systematically destroyed since 1945: coal, steel, shipbuilding, aerospace, electotech, infotech. Our industry is now finance, academia and biotech, with the other 50 percent of the working population employed in local government, NGOs. or driving private hire taxis and food delivery scooters
Agreed, well stated.
Because the Germans are still w/ Putin and their dream of European Commonwealth from Lisbon to Vladivostok lives on. 3rd time in 110 years Germans caused/paid for a war in Europe…take a moment and dwell on it for a while.
Putin does not loose, you should know it by now. please read who are the real villains. who is the real villain: ua-cam.com/video/wzEZY70NW7g/v-deo.html
It's a .money laundering operation
Food for thought in a lyric. "If you tolerate this, your children will be next"
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
iconic music band preaching on the streets maniacally.
the apple tends to fall close to the tree. Russia has rich literature on this subject, a cultural vicious circle where tolerating misery, sacrifice, pride leads to a certain mindset. Top down society expects children to be next, tolerating it is the lesser evil to many a Russian. Again, greatly reflected in their literature, philosophy, history. The lyric is a bit simplistic in that sense - like a model wishing for world peace at a beauty pageant. Sounds nice.
But Putin basically says, if you don't tolerate me, your children will be next.
how will they? our governments will send them to ukraine?
after all you know ww3 would mean the death of everyone including russia and nato thanks to existance of nuclear weapons
U mean american wars?
Wow how informative was that...we want more... Micheal Clarke is superb...❤
It ends when putin says it ends….
Or begs for it to end…
evidence point to the opposite.
@@fosphor8920 what evidence? The one that russian soldiers found in Avdeevka they took from USIS yesterday?
He might not get a say in the matter.
@@user-pm8je4fo7e What are you talking about? People usually talk about Boris and the peace negotiations
To repel Russia they need air support!
who is the real villain: ua-cam.com/video/wzEZY70NW7g/v-deo.html
The only air support that will save Ukraine would have to come from aliens.
Russia has some of the best air defence systems in the world.
Russian air defence is mostly around moscow @ABanRocks
Russia does n9t have air superiority over East Ukraine or sea of Azov. Ukraine have it over on occupied Ukraine and Russia over land between Ukraine and moscow. If Ukraine can establish it over crimea with land forces nearby they could potentially take crimea and it would then be easy to defend it. The Donna's would become a Russian stronghold but Ukraine would not be spread across a large front and be able possibly to go on the offensive. But it could dig in for another few years. However Ukraine would have to take all of southern Ukraine to get to thismposotion.
Missiles could be fired from planes high up inside Ukraine and target logistics inside Russia.
There’s something about Kate Gerbeau. Super-focused, sharp questioning, tenacious and knowledgeable. My favourite journalist since this horror show began. Thank you.
There's something about these UA-cam bots. Super focused, razor sharp and ready to be deployed at a moments notice by their American paymasters.
Says the Russian bot. Do one Ivan.
@@errolkim1334 Wrong. I’m not a bot or American.
Puck Futin.
WHICH HORROR SHOW?
WHEN THE WESTERN EMPIRE SET NEO NAZIS ON RUSSIA!
HAHAHA
WOW
SHE ISN'T A JOURNALIST SHE'S A PROPAGANDIST
PLEASE DON'T EMBARASS YOURSELF
@@ryanfarmer4882LOOOOOOVEEEEEEE ZE RACIST TROPE
WESTERN INTELLIGENCE TAUGHT YOU WELL
HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
AND THIS GARBAGE IS LAUGHABLE
NO ONE IS WATCHING IT
How can these people keep a straight face?
How can you morally support a child-abducting, genocidal, imperialistic kleptomaniac?
Oh, my!! The trolls are TRIGGERED!!!! Ms Gerbeau never disappoints.
Top stuff again. THE best interviewer And Guests.
This is also "Top stuff": On UA-cam enjoy these two clips:
Poroshenko 2014: "Their children will hole up in the basements - this is how we win the war!" [ENG SUBS]
CNN 2016: "UKRAINE: DONETSK CITIZENS CRIPPLED BY WAR"
Amazing piece of uninterrupted involuntary humor. Thanks. 😂❤
I really don't know if they believe in what they are saying or not anymore... !
i was just thinking the same !!!!bahahahah
If Putin is losing then he has without doubt the best poker face and demeanour I've ever seen.
He's had his emotions botoxed.
Very good discussion on this important topic
I see the white album in the background. Love
I don't think so
It’s back in the USSR!
Nobody ever mentions that Putin held off the invasion for a few weeks to appease the Chinese who were hosting the Olympics.. If he had moved in a month earlier the invading army could have gotten off the roads into the frozen fields. This delay may have saved the Ukrainians.
total speculation and opinion.
Frozen fields or not - the 60 kilometer/40 mile long column of military vehicles was not stopped by nature. It stopped because of corruption, so to speak.
Edit: auto correct.
Not really. Russian operation the way they conducted it was doomed to fail
It was well beyond their logistic and planning capabilities.
If that’s true then putin certainly isn’t the military genius he thinks he is.
Covid was still in full swing also and was probably seen as a critical risk with unknown outcomes for armies on the move.
Only one way to look at history. Terrible lack of anticipation and long term vision
Avdeevka fell today. HAVE IT!
And soviet union fall on 1991 due the war in Afghanistan and at this speed Russia shall collaps aftet war in Ukraine so you take that.
Great video - except for all the ads! Thank you
I use brave as my search engine and have zero ads
Get yourself you tube premium. Best ten bucks a month I've ever spent!
Those excessive ads were killing me too.
@@VajrahahaShunyata Firefox is OK too. A few glitches. No commercials.
What a joke.. everyone knows who is winning and who is loosing. 😂
Your English is bad
These deluded thugs are finding ways by telling lies to cover up their evil plans to use Ukraine for their evil motives😠
Russia is losing. After 2 years he us still in the same position. Russia is done
@@apb2081 Its just because putin don't want to be like Netanyahu in Gaza war, At the ens he still is fighting against neo nazis in Ukraine not the Ukrainians citizinens ... Its never about destroying Ukraine its about protecting Russians living in land that Russia has annexed. And its about not letting Nato/ US neclear head/ missiles positioned in Ukraine pointing towards Russia.. Just think what would US do if Mexico allows Russia to put their troops and nuclear head in Mexico...its that simple.... its all about thread... what is defination of thread for US should also be a defination of thread for Russia and China and other nations... security thread is not just for US and west it is also for rest ...
@@apb2081hang on. So Russia keeps advancing across Ukraine, NATO can't supply enough weapons, Ukraine is running out of soldiers, and support 🤔
People poke the bear and wonder why it fights back.
Funny how I have to scrowl so far down the comment section to find one intelligent comment
🎉🎉🎉Amen ❤❤
Well said, the CIA under Obama made this mess people have no idea what the CIA get up to it's truly criminal, not forgetting the self-righteous holier than thou EU warmongers pushing East and cheering on the bloody carnage.
That comment does not make sense. It was the bear - who was welcomed and pampered for decades - who decided that it wants more.
Not sure how aspiring for your own democracy and free institutions rather than a puppet president and suppression ( ie Belarus style) is poking the Bear? Maybe the bear is getting paranoid and finding it harder to steal other peoples food now the post Cold War generation is wising up.
And unfortunately as an Iranian citizen , we are losing economically.
Another interesting interview again. Thank you Kate ❤
There's a lot of 'bots' in the comments section... Boomers think we can't spot 'paid comments'... so lame..! Do better!
No mate, uk ppl aren't interested in hating Russia snd getting into a war debt for those Yanks again the Yanks can do one
do not put the commenst bots off ...every comment adds to the algo ,,,they 'r doing a great job ...remind them to tick the like button too...
Great programme again!🤩🤩🤩
A talk laid out very well! It’s rare to see a content like this in English. I mainly keep an eye on the war using russian opposition media and they frequently say that it is crucial for a common western person to understand what we as the world are up against.
For whoever finds this, please remember that Putin’s tried strategy is to wait out the opponent. He always waited for something to happen in the past and, unfortunately, got lucky sometimes
Stalin also had fear regarding all kinds of plots against him. He destroyed his opponents and ruled for many decades, as has Putin. The fragility that these experts talk about is perfectly natural for this kind of regime. So they should not get too excited about fragility and what that portends about the lifespan of such a regime.
Stalin was Georgian Kroutchev, Brejnev, Tchernenko were Ukrainians Trottsky was Ukrainian Tcheka Founder Polish Djerjinsky Putin is Russian it is a shame to compare him to Stalin
Huh? I really don’t understand this. What are you exactly suggesting here??
@@h.e.hazelhorst9838 stalin did not fail it was westernized leader long after his dead that brought fall of the greatest thing ever if next leader gonna be soft and do what please west only time can decide
Putin is 71 years old, 72 in October, and not in the best of health, under a lot of pressure...
Imagine the stress when the Kerch Bridge comes down? 😉
Death is near everything ends
A lot of Russian 🇷🇺 bots coping 😂😂😂😂!!!
Adviivkunt
Just here for the laughs
trollomaniac
what about you? are you not coping, only russians?
as the front collapses and Ukraine advances west
Thank you, l needed a laugh.
The Scottish bloke is delirious with dross gaslighting…
But he’s a Lord isn’t he?…he must be smart then…😂😂
The clown was hated when he was MP for Hamilton most of Scotland was gobsmacked with his Lordship 😂😂😂
Well worth his 300£ a day.😢
Another Russian bot here
Lord Robertson has made some excellent points!!
How can they say that Putin is on the way out and then say that it might take up to 5 years?
Oh,because they've been saying the same for 10 years,that Putin is done and he is live and kicking
They're waiting for him to die so they can say "see? We were right!"
They lie to us. Don't trust the western media and the western policians. They all suffer from deranged russophobia
Cause the hostiry of the world sometimes flips on a dime sometimes it does not.
"Putin is finished!" Meh.. For how long did Liz Truss last..?
Putin's end will be Gaddafi like..
@@nikolaikrustev1159✴️⭕⏹🅰️
@@nikolaikrustev1159 Calm down, Hillary.
@@Memovox I'm cool, vatnik.
The new world order is taking shape
To diffuse this situation with Russia would require some changes to the Ukrainian laws.
Lord Robertson, you are SO right about the BBC Wolrd Service. They can be a force for good in virtually any propaganda war, but present the truth. But, unfortunately, the BBC's service and priorities have deteriorated in every respect. It's going to take a fair and imaginative government to help rebuild this once great organisation.
BBC lies and lies and lies. If it's got a British accent, turn it off!
I picked up on that too.
@@user-zh2cu2jk9j there are a lot of British accents on this video. So you turned it off then. Well done you. Pat yourself on the head.
Thank you for an interesting discussion.
George Robertson was the VIP at my brother's passing out parade at Sandhurst in 1999. He stood up and made a speech for ten minutes. Nobody could understand a word that he said. Then he sat down and everybody continued as normal.
The radio Times has given me a fu##ing good laugh for two years and counting. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right off the mark, she states that there was a full scale invasion. A full scale invasion would have required the russians to field at least 2 million soldiers, as the germans did in 1941. In 2022, the Ukrainian trained army was the most powerful in Europe at over 800,000. Anybody with any sense of scale would know that Russia's 190,000 would never be enough to mount a 'full scale' invasion. The level of competence from these 'experts' is atrocious.
As ever fantastic guests and interviewer
Bot
@@Stomper66666 Kind of you to self identify
You are not a BOT, but a slightly nerdy Geordie. I suspect we would get on, but my passion is bird watching , not model aircraft. Not sure why you are doing this.
Great piece. Well done Kate, always watch Frontline👌👍👍
Thank you for so interesting interview.
Exceptional presentation....thank you.
Thank you Kate for this informative session.
Kate is full of it. ua-cam.com/video/wzEZY70NW7g/v-deo.html
It’s not true though , please the times have shown they are totally out of touch on this conflict , find Douglas Macgregor / Patrick Lancaster or Eva Bartlett to find honest news , you just cant trust these russiaphobia channels in sorry to say .
You cant stop someone who you can't say no to.
Love You British Accent 🇺🇸
🎉a NATO shill doesn't convince me more if he uses a scotch speak❤❤❤
I agree, it is 1942 all over again.
It NOT the Russian, it nato & USA is the empire is the problem
so russians are going to defeat the nazis once again?
A lot of similarities. The Nazis had just picked a fight with a couple of sleeping giants. Russia today has made enemies; lots of enemies.
@@stevenpace892 just imagine Japan taking back the Kurile-Islands, China taking back Manchuria ....
@@whattheflyingfuck...oh this will happen before things are finished.
It was the military enforcement of the Minsk agreements.
You don't change military leadership in a winning army.that says a lot.
very nice conversation. Thank you!
Ukraine’s top negotiator, Davyd Arakhamia: Russia was “prepared to end the war if we agreed to... neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.”
But the US and UK stood in the way
Bad timing on the video as the Ukrainian front is collapsing
Ukraine rapidly understood that their much touted offensive was going fail. Trying to capture and hold territory was not realistic without airpower etc. At which point Ukraine switched to a strategy of attrition. This strategy has been pretty impressively successful.
If you look back at various war strategy discussions, the eventual need for Ukraine to abandon Adiivka has been known for months.
Ukraine was only going to hold it whilst the casualties they could inflict were in the ratio 5:1 or better. Once Russian forces had penetrated into the urban areas, it became impossible to maintain that casualty ratio and at that point any wise commander arranges an orderly as possible exit to a pre-prepared new strong defensive position.
The Russians will gloat over their 'great victory' for quite a while. There is a good chance that in the long run it will prove to be pyrrhic.
"collapsing"... do you understand the words you're using?
@movement2contact ya they are running away like scared kids. When they said they will never run away.
@@ABanRocks Try harder...
@@ABanRocks u 🤡
Small point on neutrality bias, "thousands of casualties both sides" could have been clearer with something like "with an apparent ratio in military casualties of multiple times higher in Russian ones, while civilian casualties are higher by several multiple on the Ukranian side"
Well I think you're leaving out the Ukrainian citizens who are being killed by the AFU in places like Donestk city because that is.viewed by the Ukraine govt as a "Pro- Russian" city. And neutrality bias? Times Radio? Neutral? That's insane times Radio is ridiculously biased towards Ukraine.
Great analysis 👍
Military experts, who have been wrong throughout this conflict.
So much better than t.v. news.
Excellent reporting 👏
Glory to the Baltic states that by GNP spends most of all countries in support for Ukraine. 🇪🇺❤️🇺🇦
baltic barons all over the world
Ten countries that helped Ukraine and Ukrainians the most (% of GDP, Kiel Institute, graphs: 2nd + 8th) (2022-01-24 - 2023-10-31): * Poland - 3.65% (= 0.67% + 0.55% + 2.43%) * Estonia - 2.86% * Lithuania - 2.52% * Latvia - 2.50% * Czechia - 2.46% * Slovakia - 2.38% * Bulgaria - 2.30% * Norway - 1.76% * Denmark - 1.72% * Germany - 1.29%
Zzz zzz
The Austrian painter was right, Putin is the new Austrian painter
Right about what?
@@gerryhouska2859 Funny, all these countries are puppet countries of the USA and get most of their aid from the USA but that wouldn't have anything to do with it would it! If it was up the the populations of these countries and not the corrupt leadership there wouldn't be any aid from most of these countries going to Ukraine anymore.
Really enjoyed this one, thank you.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Glory to God and Ukraine 🙏 🇺🇦..
Rules based order is a joke......
Front lines frozen ? What world are you living in ?
but it has warmed up Avdeevka when russian wins it is froze the Ukrainian advance it is Waterloo victory
Beyond small gains by Russia because of their meat wave tactics the lines are mostly static. Russia just can't keep it up so expect a collapse of the Russian offensive soon. Moral is very low for them
She said 'largely frozen'. Which is true, the line has barely moved. The last big movement was Russia losing Kherson and Kupiansk. Since then Russia has taken Bakhmut and is close to taking Avdiivka, and a few towns and villages have gone back and forth, but the line has remained the same.
200m in a week is not frozen? What world are you living in? Avdiivka since 2024, only now russia manages after habing sent 50000 to death to get it.
The real world
Wow insightful
This is a good mix of UK opinion. I will start by offering my Political Science (Temple University) and US Military Training (MI Brigade/AR Company) credentials. Maybe it is better to understand a mono polar world.
The US leads by minimizing input until it is necessary. In this regard, many US leadership moves are via the UN, or NATO, IMF, World Bank, World Trade Organization, and other group activities. The US puts enough resources in these organizations to apply on soft power in most cases. In other times, the US uses a UK and French colonial policy of letting local leaders and elites solve issues until intervention is necessary. Of course, when 2ND and 3RD level powers intervene, the US has been forced to intervene as a counterweight. This model of leadership is sustainable for a very long period with evolving economic and political conditions.
Compare the US leadership model to historic and current authoritarian leadership models. Getting compliance in the authoritarian model almost always depends on Force projection. Over time, Force projection becomes increasingly more expensive and non-compliance by the subjugated increases in cleverness and frequency. Remember, authoritarian models require spending more on their internal maintenance of power as external Force projection costs increases. This gap has usually destroyed authoritarian leadership beyond its own borders over time.
Well said
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Yes, our goal needs to be tightening sanctions, big time! Secondary sanctions to tighten the screws even more. Financial pressure till it causes collapse.
well except that its no longer a uni polar world like it was in the 1990s/2000s....but the american neo cons are refusing to accept the reality of todays multi polar world and thats why the USA keeps intervening and invading countries with poor results - and its american neo con foreign policy that duped Ukraine into fighting this war for the USA against a country it has no chance of defeating...the neo cons used Ukraine to incite Russia into invading because they thought that getting Russia into a long protracted war combined with economic sanctions would lead to regime change in Moscow, a collapse of the russian economy and dissolution of the Russian Federation. Like all neo con fantasies this one also ran into Reality and has caused a disaster for ukrainians and wasted 200 billion dollars of americans tax payer monies. Peace talks must start in earnest .
@@tabithan2978it has caused a 3,6% GDP growth as of now. Do you think we can push for 5%?
Clearly the experts know no more than anyone else that watches CNN
CNN is still in business?
We know these 'experts' are right about the future, because they've been so right in the past...Oh, wait! Uh-oh
Even as a civilian in Ireland with the news that Russians were massing on the Ukrainian birder, and particularly that they were on military exercises and had no intention of invading Ukraine, it seemed obvious that was exactly what they were going to do. Especially when Putin said it. So it was no surprise to me unfortunately when they did. With all the military experts in the world, NATO and the US why did they not tell Putin to his face they would not stand for it for it would have been the only language he understands? Its baffling the EU were so spineless knowing he would go for the Baltic states and even Poland if he got the chance for that is his only reason for existing, he's a dictator and dictators can only exist if they have wars to preoccupy their people with, otherwise he has to justify his existence with domestic policies or just use brutal force to stay in power. This might seem naive analysis but isn't it the lesson of history?
I would say it looked pretty obvious. In any case Ukraine should have been even more prepared. But it's how it is . Something like this should have never happened. Hopefully it will stop soon .
Ukrainian just bombed they own people russophones during 8 years in Donbas what did you expect
stop parroting complete nonsense put out by western mainstream medias. Putin has no interest in invading Poland or the baltic states.
Actually, the US said flat out that Russia was going to invade and Europe refused to believe it.
the USA wanted this war and now because its not going how they thought it would and have been lying from the start about the war the USA doesnt know how to get out of it
It would be refreshing if those commenting on the Russo-Ukraine war would stop thinking so one dimentionally and understand that Ukraines offensive has a multi dimentional element that is attacking all areas of Russia and Russian occupied territory and not just along the thin line of contact in the ground war in the East and South of Ukraine.
if you think Ukraine's offensive has failed, it's probably because your idea of success, is based on Ukraine's previous routes of Russia in Kiyv, Kharkiv and Kherson oblasts, where they took back 56% of the area Russia occupied in the first few months of the war, in just 7 months and that is an unrealistic expectation.
This is not a Hollywood movie and Ukraine are facing the, reputedly, 2nd biggest military in the world, who had 12 months to prepare their defence on the remaining 48% that they'd occupied! 🤔 .
However, Ukraine has liberated 1232sq miles of Russian temporarily occupied lands, through battle zones with well prepared defences, opening 4 offensive fronts on land, while neutralising 400,000 Russian soldiers (KIA) and 800,000 minimum wounded.
In comparison to Russia, supported by the entire might of the 2nd biggest military in the world, Iran and North Korea taking 12 months, yes 12 months, to capture just 3sq km around Marynka and nothing of any significance since Bakhmut 1year ago
On land, Ukraine has broken through the 1st and 2nd lines of Russia's defences, breached the Surovikin lines and they are now behind Russian defences inside Russian trenches, as well as opened several bridgeheads across the Dnipro river and pushed Russia out of the areas around Robotyne, Krinky and Avdiivka, with Russia losing, on average, 1000 soldiers a day, to Ukraine's average of 100, a 10-1 ratio, with equipment losses of 1-6.4 in Ukraines favour.
On Water, Let's not forget that Russias mighty Black Sea fleet has been ordered by Putin to retreat, YES RETREAT, into the far east of the Black Sea, to dock inside Russia, scared to come within 600km of Ukraines coast. Forced out of Russias historic and regional navy stronghold Savastapol and the Azov Sea by Ukraines actions, after losing 25 ships and a Submarine. Forced to retreat by Ukraine's actions and ALL that done by Ukraine, a country that doesn't even have a navy!
And in the Air, Let's not forget that Ukraine's airspace is a "no fly zone" for Russia's air force, who can't come within 15km of Ukraine's borders or cities for fear of being shot down and are relying on unmanned drones to do their work with decreasing success and at the same time Russia is losing on average a dozen aircraft a week in airbases all across Russia and hundreds of miles from Ukraine, with five more struck just last week with Patriot missiles from the US, Ukraines newest arrival.
On the Run again, Let's not forget that Russia has evacuated hundreds of thousands of Russians, both civilians and senior officers, from Crimea scared of Ukraines capabilities and a "Storm Shadow" visit or two, to Crimea and the Kerch Bridge.
Lastly, Russias propoganda machine has become so preposterous it's lost its value with only those at home in Russia and those already supporting Russia believing the nonsense and that support is waining.
Now tell me again you pro-Russians and trolls, with Ukraine advancing on land, having taken the Black and Azov Seas away from Russia and doing Russia more damage in the air than visa versa, that Ukraines offensive hasn't been successful so far? 🤔
Thanks for this well-crafted information, unlike all the dumb comments with no substance.❤️
All the best to all Ukrainians fighting for their country.
What's imporatant is that Ukraine keeps Russia out of Ukraine and your report is encouraging. There are signs that support for Ukraine is wavering and I find that very sad. Russia are the agressors here.
@@Rayblondie It's called a reality check. While slagging off Russia daily the US now tell us they have the technology to destroy western Satellites and effectively Blind them. That's why West is wavering because they know the true capabilities of Russia and any escalation by west is always met with a disproportionate response by Russia. To the last Ukrainian -Prophetic.
All the things you listed Russia has done to Ukraine ten fold
That is some incredible coping. Instead of living your life wearing pink colored glasses literally listen to numerous officials in Ukraine itself. How about Zaluzhniy that just got sacked together with 16 others at the top level of the military after everyone pronounced the counteroffensive was an utter failure. Was that because of the great success in Ukraine “Uber secret cunning strategy?”How about Zelensky’s former advisors like Arestovych who now say Ukraine is on track to massive defeat and they need to negotiate as soon as possible?
Lord Robertson is right. The Russians should be afraid of escalation not the west.
If Ukraine can’t do it NATO will have to.
Seems good news today for Russia with Ukraine withdrawing from Avdiivka. BBC article saying basically Russian weight, size, is winning, long and slow. Other article by them recently says Ukraine are having big trouble getting men to join up any more. The ones willing are largely dead or injured. Perhaps an end is on the way and peace will be restored with a chunk back in Russian possession. Better to spend on rebuilding rather than more munitions.
Best thing to come out of this is we all know Russia is no threat to the west any more, if it ever was. Worst thing, the west pushed Russia and China together.
When was it a threat in the last 2 decades.
It never was a threat . Why would Russia invade Europe . What’s to gain ?
"Better to spend on rebuilding rather than more munitions." Except Putin or a future Putinite will go for more land down the line. Because the west proved weak. The issue is is when/if said leadership goes further and attacks one of our allies. That will mean more lives lost. But... sure. You do you, beau.
OTAN doit faire une exception avec Ukraine et permettre Ukraine d’entrer OTAN pendant la guerre depuis c’est une invasion et membership en OTAN peut donner sécurité à Ukraine et peut-être arrêter l’agression de russe
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Yes .....there's a lot of NATO-bots that's for sure
Oh ....wow!!!
Delusional click
It is a forever shame that NATO with a $1.2T defense budget was always dithering about assisting Ukraine and putting the brakes on Russian imperialism.
"It is a forever shame that NATO with a $1.2T defense budget was always dithering about assisting Ukraine"
Hmmm, let me think. Ukraine is not a member of NATO. Ukraine is the second most corrupt state in Europe behind only Russia. Ukraine has a Soviet military that does not come close to meeting NATO standards.
Wonder why NATO is reserved with aid? Perhaps you can explain?
N.A.T.O. Alliance must keep the pressure up ,and arms to Ukraine.
NAFO must start facing reality
One of them talks about helicopters I haven't seen any helicopters especially in the failed summer offensive where there were no helicopters or fixed during aircraft or artillery just some tanks and some Bradley's. I have not seen an example of combined arms warfare from Ukraine yet.