You sir are a warrior, I salute you, how are you doing it with such positivity, I’m dying here….. so difficult, almost impossible, ready to throw in the towel 😢
I had a horrible hell with a withdrawal in 2015 so trying again now slower. I know that hell you’re talking about so when I feel the least bit of a symptom unfortunately my mind goes right to that horrible withdrawal and I get scared . Gonna try to remember what you said and watch your videos for encouragement. Thank you
I understand the feeling you’re talking about I just started having that with this recent ml drop so I’m going to hold for a little and see how each day goes. I’m going to remember that “ we have to be comfortable with the uncomfortable “ ! Thank you
That’s my best advice is to not allow yourself to get too bad. Pushing through was the last thing I did normally on this planet. I jumped May 2020. Chronic akathisia, tardive dystonia, TD in my face/tongue, severe tinnitus. The tinnitus explosion was my first sign things had gone wrong. I had traumatic awakening erupt. I was flying out of bed, my head yanked back in dystonia in air hunger. I was drowning in my upper sinuses. Neurological madness. Most of my worst symptoms erupted tardive 4-18mths off. My leg pain increased significantly in year 3 & 4.
Benzodiazepines being very effective medications, even at very low doses they bind to a a very significant number of receptors. This is the "law of mass action". For example, at 0.5 mg they will bind to around 40%, but 1 mg will bind to only around 50-60%. This is the reason the lower you get , the bigger the reduction's effect is on the nervous system. This is well detailed in The Maudsley Depescribing Guidelines. Please go slow and reduce very gradually. I dropped too fast and I still have severe symptoms 17 months later.
Thank you for sharing this. It’s so important to hear, I just had this conversation with my Dr. regarding the lower dose and dropping doses. I’m doing a liquid taper at this point. I asked for the tiniest syringes from my pharmacist, Im dropping if a very small amount. At times I have widespread body pain and feel dizzy , anxiety, racing heart. I lost 12 lbs. very happy about that. I lay out on the kitchen floor. Im working as well. I try to stay away from caffeine. I need some, but cannot drink the amounts I used to. Best of luck , I will keep watching you. Blessings❤
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Oh the pain had it many years in tolerance. Got so bad earlier this year im now using a pain balm.. Relate to the feeling it [ walked off once none of this].
i know exactly where you are, if you could stay and get better from that point forward, thatll would be great for you.. take it slow and fight the urge, youve been on them so long big cuts are out of the question
Yes I have pain in my legs it's horrible, I'm tapering off val down to just over 4mg and I'm feeling so edgy especially in the morning through day but night i settle a lill, I want to try Lithium Orotate the natural one not big pharma, magnesium gylcinate seems to make me feel low in moods, I wish we didn't have to suffer like this 😫
You’re smart to keep working and doing activities because distraction is very important. A high fat, low carb diet will help with the uneasiness. Don’t eat the junk, it will make it worse. I’m 9 months completely off klonopin and the only symptoms I still have is neck pain and constipstion.
❤ur advise best i went from 6 mg to .3 mg clonazepam ..after 2 years remais functional ..its very difficult to taper last doses ..i want to taper very slowly depression heavy at low dose
i stuck at day 117, i cant sleep, so i decide to hold, i dont know until when, i feel afraid to continue, what should i do to reach 300 days water taper without insomnia
I have akasthisia from polydrugging. I have been on lots of drugs and stuck on them most of my life, I am taking ativan as needed but I have no plan of going off it anytime soon.
Hi I love your videos give me hope Ihave been on klonopine for 30 year . I was on 2 ml in 2019 when covid hit. My doctor retired then take to my brian doctor he put me on 1ml been on that for year half. He wanted to put me on 0.5 four month ago ISaid no that was ok. I have epilepsy so I take med for that. Afraid he will retire to do not know what to do. Sorry this is long how do you crossover to valium. Thank you. Can you take antibiotics when tapering.
Thank you for your comment. Regarding your question about antibiotics, I strongly advise you to AVOID taking Floroquinoquin antibiotics. These type of antibiotics can cause major problems. So make sure you tell a doctor that you cannot have these types of antibiotics. Secondly, I have a video on how to do a crossover. ua-cam.com/video/ZuxkhAoKC_o/v-deo.htmlsi=db41jeM2svorTdtt
Taken me 6 weeks to get from 3.5 to 3.10mg Absolutely hell......I cant figure out why it's so hard to drop these lowered doses.....it's so much harder than the bigger drops of 5 mg....I feel stuck....I could drop from 10mg to 5mg easy....now I just cant even drop 0.05mls Depression anxiety Uneasiness It's not akathesia but it's just so uncomfortable....it's awful Like a acute when did the cold turkey of lorazapam which I was cross tapered valium diagnosed with BIND in ER. So I'm at 7 months taper.....and holy hell.....its hell....absolutely horrific....how do I get off this 3.10mg......it's getting so uncomfortable suicide is better....it's making me feel like it will never ever go... It's a LONG time. Battle fatigue. Can you please explain to me why it is Soooooooo arduous these lowered levels? How long should it take me to get off 3.10mgs ...... I was hoping .5mg per month....however looks like .5mg every 8weeks..which is soooo long.. Thankyou for your videos your going to be the best benzo coach online.
Thank you very much for the comment and I understand exactly what you’re talking about. Here’s what I can tell you. It’s entirely understandable why the lower doses feel so much more challenging. Many people experience increased difficulty with tapering as they get closer to the end, which can be attributed to several factors: 1. Receptor Sensitivity: Over time, your body adjusts to the presence of benzodiazepines, particularly at higher doses. When you reach lower doses, your receptors are often much more sensitive, making even small reductions feel more intense than they did at higher doses. 2. Nervous System Hyperactivity: Benzos work by dampening the nervous system. With the reduced dosage, your nervous system is less suppressed, which can result in heightened anxiety, depression, and physical discomfort. Essentially, as your nervous system readjusts to functioning without the benzo, it can respond with heightened sensitivity, which is often described as “battle fatigue.” 3. Psychological Exhaustion: The longer the taper, the more draining it becomes mentally. The consistent cycle of symptoms, fear, and worry can take a toll on your mental resilience, which may make the experience feel even more challenging. 4. Kindling Effect: For those who have had multiple tapering attempts or withdrawals, sensitivity can increase with each subsequent taper. This can amplify symptoms and make it feel almost unbearable, even at low doses. As for the timeframe, going slow is crucial; the fact that you’re considering a rate of 0.5mg every 8 weeks, although it feels long, is actually wise for minimizing intense symptoms. It might feel unbearably slow, but this gradual approach can help keep symptoms more manageable. While 7 months into a taper is already substantial, it’s not uncommon for the last stretch to take longer, sometimes requiring as much as a year or more depending on individual sensitivity. If possible, consider finding a support group or counselor specializing in benzodiazepine tapering, as having someone to turn to can ease the isolation that often comes with this journey. It sounds like you’re doing everything possible under challenging circumstances-holding on to a slower, gentler approach may be the best way to reach that finish line.
@elijahsbenzojourney1705 Thank you. I wish u were a coach. I would pay to see u....that's a brilliant comment...and unfortunately, I have now from the kindling from lorazapam, an ultra sensitive cn.....does this ever heal... even coming off it?
Yes, you will heal. Just give it time. It may not feel like we’ll ever heal, but don’t believe that lie. This entire process is something we’ll get through. Remember, you’re not alone.
Yeah I'm around 8.7mg of valium. Tapering super slow. At the rate I'm going it'll take me like 3 years and it's still bad most of the time. I already tried a faster taper and it was complete hell on Earth. This stuff is no fun
Thank you for putting up this really annoying video. Just kidding. I like your vids. I hope your ride is gentle. Mine certainly was not. But I did ct. Don't do that. My cortisol was off the chain every morning. I awoke at 5am to incredible fright. Didn't matter what it was, I was scared out of my mind. I lost 35 lbs on the withdrawal. I am back to my normal weight. You will be too. All of you. I have joined your website and have contributed in writing.
You sir are a warrior, I salute you, how are you doing it with such positivity, I’m dying here….. so difficult, almost impossible, ready to throw in the towel 😢
I had a horrible hell with a withdrawal in 2015 so trying again now slower. I know that hell you’re talking about so when I feel the least bit of a symptom unfortunately my mind goes right to that horrible withdrawal and I get scared . Gonna try to remember what you said and watch your videos for encouragement. Thank you
I understand the feeling you’re talking about I just started having that with this recent ml drop so I’m going to hold for a little and see how each day goes. I’m going to remember that “ we have to be comfortable with the uncomfortable “ ! Thank you
Hang in there buddy. Im tapering from my zopiclone addiction. Was taking 4 pills a night. Got it down to 3. So tough!!
Thank you so much for your story!! I think you’re doing awesome!!!! Keep it up. I’m starting to taper Jan 2025.
Hi elijah. I like your attitude towards tapering. All the best to you and my fellow psych meds survivors.
That’s my best advice is to not allow yourself to get too bad. Pushing through was the last thing I did normally on this planet. I jumped May 2020. Chronic akathisia, tardive dystonia, TD in my face/tongue, severe tinnitus. The tinnitus explosion was my first sign things had gone wrong. I had traumatic awakening erupt. I was flying out of bed, my head yanked back in dystonia in air hunger. I was drowning in my upper sinuses. Neurological madness. Most of my worst symptoms erupted tardive 4-18mths off. My leg pain increased significantly in year 3 & 4.
Benzodiazepines being very effective medications, even at very low doses they bind to a a very significant number of receptors. This is the "law of mass action". For example, at 0.5 mg they will bind to around 40%, but 1 mg will bind to only around 50-60%. This is the reason the lower you get , the bigger the reduction's effect is on the nervous system. This is well detailed in The Maudsley Depescribing Guidelines.
Please go slow and reduce very gradually. I dropped too fast and I still have severe symptoms 17 months later.
Thank you for sharing this. It’s so important to hear, I just had this conversation with my Dr. regarding the lower dose and dropping doses. I’m doing a liquid taper at this point. I asked for the tiniest syringes from my pharmacist, Im dropping if a very small amount. At times I have widespread body pain and feel dizzy , anxiety, racing heart. I lost 12 lbs. very happy about that. I lay out on the kitchen floor. Im working as well. I try to stay away from caffeine. I need some, but cannot drink the amounts I used to.
Best of luck , I will keep watching you. Blessings❤
Your going to be the best benzo coach online.
Thank you. 😊
@@elijahsbenzojourney1705 I’m seeing your channel, I have some On-Page SEO Problem in your UA-cam Channel. On-Page SEO Means Your Video Title,Tag,Descriptions optimized. You are not using High Volume and Low competitions keyword research according to your video content.
Oh the pain had it many years in tolerance. Got so bad earlier this year im now using a pain balm.. Relate to the feeling it [ walked off once none of this].
i know exactly where you are, if you could stay and get better from that point forward, thatll would be great for you.. take it slow and fight the urge, youve been on them so long big cuts are out of the question
Your lucky you stayed functional, Im bed bound 😢
I became that way too. 4 months? I couldn't leave my house. I was too afraid. Body aches like crazy. Burning, itching. Stay hard.
Im bedbound 4 years. Losing hope 😢
Yes I have pain in my legs it's horrible, I'm tapering off val down to just over 4mg and I'm feeling so edgy especially in the morning through day but night i settle a lill, I want to try Lithium Orotate the natural one not big pharma, magnesium gylcinate seems to make me feel low in moods, I wish we didn't have to suffer like this 😫
Yeah I have the feeling/pain in my legs big time too. It's always been one of my main symptoms. It's very unpleasant.
You’re smart to keep working and doing activities because distraction is very important. A high fat, low carb diet will help with the uneasiness. Don’t eat the junk, it will make it worse. I’m 9 months completely off klonopin and the only symptoms I still have is neck pain and constipstion.
What dose were you taking and how long .t Thank you
@@yolandebrunet-yp3bb 17 years! Started at 3mg a day and during the last 8 years tapered down to .25 before I jumped off.
Thank you for answering
Great job, Eli! Keep up the hard work. Don't worry about April yet. The Lord will provide. He's doing it now. I think doing keto will help. Love you
Love u too
You know that woozy feeling you get when you take a big pinch of snuff (and you don’t dip) I feel like that all the time. F*cking sucks!
❤ur advise best i went from 6 mg to .3 mg clonazepam ..after 2 years remais functional ..its very difficult to taper last doses ..i want to taper very slowly depression heavy at low dose
i stuck at day 117, i cant sleep, so i decide to hold, i dont know until when, i feel afraid to continue, what should i do to reach 300 days water taper without insomnia
I have akasthisia from polydrugging. I have been on lots of drugs and stuck on them most of my life, I am taking ativan as needed but I have no plan of going off it anytime soon.
Benzos bad stay away. Doctor man finished his mission.
Benzos no good stay away. Hell on earth. Doctir completed his mission.
Are you taking ambien still?
As needed, and I have no issues with that. The problem that I had is, I was taking 5 to 6 times the amount.
Anyone know if can taper only 1 or 2 times a month. Is it to slow
You can try it but be careful.
Hi I love your videos give me hope
Ihave been on klonopine for 30 year . I was on 2 ml in 2019 when covid hit. My doctor retired then take to my brian doctor he put me on 1ml been on that for year half. He wanted to put me on 0.5 four month ago ISaid no that was ok. I have epilepsy so I take med for that. Afraid he will retire to do not know what to do. Sorry this is long how do you crossover to valium. Thank you. Can you take antibiotics when tapering.
Thank you for your comment. Regarding your question about antibiotics, I strongly advise you to AVOID taking Floroquinoquin antibiotics. These type of antibiotics can cause major problems. So make sure you tell a doctor that you cannot have these types of antibiotics. Secondly, I have a video on how to do a crossover. ua-cam.com/video/ZuxkhAoKC_o/v-deo.htmlsi=db41jeM2svorTdtt
Just keep positive you will be just fine. Just remember slow and steady. Also 1 mg of Klonopin is equal to 20 mg of Valium.
I watch your video of how to cross over to valium. I only take 1mg at night before bed.
Thank you about the not taking antibiotics call floroguinoquin. I just fell on people story on UA-cam. Holy crap
Taken me 6 weeks to get from 3.5 to 3.10mg
Absolutely hell......I cant figure out why it's so hard to drop these lowered doses.....it's so much harder than the bigger drops of 5 mg....I feel stuck....I could drop from 10mg to 5mg easy....now I just cant even drop 0.05mls
Depression
anxiety
Uneasiness
It's not akathesia but it's just so uncomfortable....it's awful
Like a acute when did the cold turkey of lorazapam which I was cross tapered valium diagnosed with BIND in ER. So I'm at 7 months taper.....and holy hell.....its hell....absolutely horrific....how do I get off this 3.10mg......it's getting so uncomfortable suicide is better....it's making me feel like it will never ever go...
It's a LONG time.
Battle fatigue.
Can you please explain to me why it is Soooooooo arduous these lowered levels?
How long should it take me to get off 3.10mgs ...... I was hoping .5mg per month....however looks like .5mg every 8weeks..which is soooo long..
Thankyou for your videos your going to be the best benzo coach online.
Thank you very much for the comment and I understand exactly what you’re talking about. Here’s what I can tell you.
It’s entirely understandable why the lower doses feel so much more challenging. Many people experience increased difficulty with tapering as they get closer to the end, which can be attributed to several factors:
1. Receptor Sensitivity: Over time, your body adjusts to the presence of benzodiazepines, particularly at higher doses. When you reach lower doses, your receptors are often much more sensitive, making even small reductions feel more intense than they did at higher doses.
2. Nervous System Hyperactivity: Benzos work by dampening the nervous system. With the reduced dosage, your nervous system is less suppressed, which can result in heightened anxiety, depression, and physical discomfort. Essentially, as your nervous system readjusts to functioning without the benzo, it can respond with heightened sensitivity, which is often described as “battle fatigue.”
3. Psychological Exhaustion: The longer the taper, the more draining it becomes mentally. The consistent cycle of symptoms, fear, and worry can take a toll on your mental resilience, which may make the experience feel even more challenging.
4. Kindling Effect: For those who have had multiple tapering attempts or withdrawals, sensitivity can increase with each subsequent taper. This can amplify symptoms and make it feel almost unbearable, even at low doses.
As for the timeframe, going slow is crucial; the fact that you’re considering a rate of 0.5mg every 8 weeks, although it feels long, is actually wise for minimizing intense symptoms. It might feel unbearably slow, but this gradual approach can help keep symptoms more manageable. While 7 months into a taper is already substantial, it’s not uncommon for the last stretch to take longer, sometimes requiring as much as a year or more depending on individual sensitivity.
If possible, consider finding a support group or counselor specializing in benzodiazepine tapering, as having someone to turn to can ease the isolation that often comes with this journey. It sounds like you’re doing everything possible under challenging circumstances-holding on to a slower, gentler approach may be the best way to reach that finish line.
@elijahsbenzojourney1705 Thank you. I wish u were a coach. I would pay to see u....that's a brilliant comment...and unfortunately, I have now from the kindling from lorazapam, an ultra sensitive cn.....does this ever heal... even coming off it?
Yes, you will heal. Just give it time. It may not feel like we’ll ever heal, but don’t believe that lie. This entire process is something we’ll get through. Remember, you’re not alone.
@elijahsbenzojourney1705 let us all know when your a coach.....Jesus has you going threw this to help us all. Your a leader.
Yeah I'm around 8.7mg of valium. Tapering super slow. At the rate I'm going it'll take me like 3 years and it's still bad most of the time. I already tried a faster taper and it was complete hell on Earth. This stuff is no fun
Are you still having panic attacks anxiety?
Nope 😊
Thank you for putting up this really annoying video. Just kidding. I like your vids. I hope your ride is gentle. Mine certainly was not. But I did ct. Don't do that.
My cortisol was off the chain every morning. I awoke at 5am to incredible fright. Didn't matter what it was, I was scared out of my mind.
I lost 35 lbs on the withdrawal. I am back to my normal weight. You will be too. All of you.
I have joined your website and have contributed in writing.