Star Citizen: Picking the right Light Fighter (Best in Class)
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Need to talk about the Defender and the Glaive, but then it's time for the overall recommendations of what is best for what!
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Using distortion weapons for in atmosphere bounties is great as after you disable them they tumble to the ground and you can focus on the next wingman
For be the Defender is really the sweet spot. Love the medium shield, but it's flight model is perfect. not too nimbla, while not being sluggish at all, in my opinion it has the best balance for a fighter.
You forgot one of the biggest pros of the Defender: Its HUMONGOUS QT fuel tank!
Exaxtly. Idk why people keep forgetting about that. The fuel tank will be the biggest selling point of the ship once bigger systems are implemeted. Small ships need to take stops to refuel. Banu Defender just cruises to the moon
That's the deciding factor for me, I can install a fast Q-Drive and drastically cut my travel time down and not have to make multiple stops for fuel. The biggest down side is how detrimental it is when the wings are destroyed. The death spin is a pretty big design flaw.
Personally I think that you can never go wrong with an Avenger Titan, it's a really versitale ship. Can even PvP in a good players's hands.
@@RJMStraya eh, I just started, but I’ve never had any trouble with MRTs. I haven’t tried HRTs yet, though.
@@RJMStraya i'm newish and i am able to use it in ERTs. though yes i would admit using it at that difficulty is hard, mostly in atmo. just change the loadout into fixed and its good.
@@eliarice74 HRTs can be done no sweat in an Avenger and VRTs can be done with a bit of sweat and a good strategy.. not sure if avenger counts as light, pretty sure it fits into a medium category
My only fighter is a Defender. Good shield, fast, long range QT, space for some loot. Though I'm not into fighting, it's a nice daily driver to just hop around in-system. :)
Defender is a great ship for running bounty and box missions. It also has some HUGE range, which could matter when bigger systems like Pyro drop. While I'm not sure it would hold up against a competent arrow pilot, I was holding my own in one over JT (living up to its namesake), and I'm not exactly an ace pilot. DEFINITELY pull the singes and upgrade the components, though. Great vid, as always, Youngblood!
I dont think the value of the Defender is lower overall. Its the ONLY long distance dogfighter.
If you do some NPC bounty hunting in an asteroid field in Pyro and and org member tells you to come to the other end of the system quickly, it will take a lot of time in a Gladius because of stops or because you need to switch to a diff ship.
The Defender will just fly there.
With manual gimbaling with MM, I feel like having a pilot just for aiming, who can aim with a mouse, works now
Not currently in game (no SSD) but always interesting to see these videos comparing ships. It's some time away, but hopefully "release" model will have good balance for missile vs countermeasure, as I do have a couple ships that rely more on those than guns.
I'm confused as to why you didn't list or appear to consider the in-game price of the ships. Following from this thought: the Super Hornet is considerably more expensive in-game than the base Hornet, but the base Hornet can be customized to have the exact same weapons loadout. I see absolutely no point in getting a Super Hornet over the base model. Genuinely curious as to why you would recommend the SH over the base model.
SH does have better guns on the nose and better hull HP! It is slower and larger however obviously.
@@thesampler3364 The regular Hornet and SH can both be equipped with the same weapons
Great video series! One note, would be nice if you could mention the ingame price alwell as the store price.
Absolutely agree. Hate it when content creators solely consider real-money prices for ship reviews!
Nice rundown! I think the comment on countermeasures is a little off base though. The flares (now known as decoys) are now effective against both EM and IR and somewhat useful for cross section missiles as well. The noise field is more for Cross section missiles and breaking your enemies radar contact. The typical 5 charge capacity of noise countermeasures is a bit annoying, but cross section missiles aren't very common anymore, they take a long time to lock, and a light fighter usually doesn't have a huge radar cross section anyway.
Cool to see you here, you once helped me and continue to help others setting up my Sticks! I now really enjoy flying with them and would never want to go back. Thanks for your great contributions to the SC community! o7
What do you mean by breaking radar contact? It deselects you as their target or what?
@@4rkadi If the cloud is between you and the person targeting you, yes.
Nitpick with the defender that 7500 is divided by 2 shield faces and you can't transfer between them any faster than regen, so that 7500 is more like 3750 twice.
Thanks for making this series of videos on picking the right Light Fighter! Fun to watch, and learned from it too!
The Gladius has better acceleration values, but the Arrow is significantly lighter. (roughly 30k kg vs 50k kg). Since F=MA, the Arrow does end up being more nimble and have better acceleration performance.
Just watched this whole series. Loved it. Thank you!
I have a Talon Shrike. And right now, imo, the missiles miss way too much. One time I had to use all 24 of the Arrester 3's to destroy an NPC Cutlass Black. Maybe one of the other missile types of works better? 🤷♂️ Generally if other people are going to take standard fighters I will bring along the Shrike. That way I'm not in jeopardy of colliding with other people or getting in the line of fire. I just sit back at range and lob missiles at targets of opportunity.
Can't remember which tracking arresters have but EM missiles are what you want to be using this patch! Have to dump several decoys to shake, and will definitely hit PVE targets unless it bugs.
@@MysterousBear Arresters are cross-section. I guess I'll have to go buy 24 EM missiles and give it another try. I'm crap at dog fighting that's why I chose the Shrike over the base Talon. Though I did buy the base Talon in game and it's pretty good too. I stuck the C-788 cannons on it. Not meta by any stretch but it's fun to hit targets with those big guns. 😆
Sheer curiosity, what brought you to add the defender and glaive to this list? Both historically have been medium fighters and have gone toe to toe with the Sabre and Hornet series.
Personally I wouldn't have even bothered to add these guys and just used the Blade and Karthu-al
The guidelines were all about fighters where you can control all weaponry as the pilot, thus the Defender and Glaive were able to compete.
If the Banu lore means anything, they would design a ship like the Hurricane, but with zero pilot controlled weapons.
That would basically be the Boulton Paul Defiant fighter in that case.
Why were you calling the Esperia _Glaive_ a Light Fighter? The Esperia Glaive is a Medium Fighter. The Esperia *Blade* is the Light Fighter. 😉
EDIT: The Defender is indeed a wierd ship. In my opinion it feels more like a Medium Fighter than a Light Fighter. It simply does not line up with any of the other Light Fighters like the Gladius and Arrow.
I'm thinking because Medium fighters only kinda exist right now? The Hornet series are supposed to be Medium as well. But since armor isn't implemented, medium fighters are just slower-lights.
damn the anvil hawk didnt even make it to the list.... well it definitely wins in my book with style points at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Haven't seen you in awhile glad your back
Great series! Can’t wait for the next!
Weirdly no mention of the Blade, I get it's pricey but it's definitely something that should be here.
Dang it. Really making me think about taking the Shrike out of buybacks.
The Defender is not top tier (do not waste $220 on it) but with an interior you can bring a buddy, do box missions and it should have a ship inventory so you can store some extra gear. And a couple beds but that really shouldn't make much of a difference at the moment. And a large quantum fuel tank. Where other fighters will be stopping at every Outpost to refuel you can travel the entire system without stopping.
Yep, this is something that Youngblood doesn’t seem to acknowledge with these ships. Having all this extra functionality with the Defender and 325a it should push these ships up more. All depends on the type of player but for me I’d trade performance for a interior and a bed, plus that inventory.
@@killerparticles5839 yeah while immaterial in combat it does give extra versatility. But I can understand ignoring those features if you're doing a purely 'best in combat' video. And the Defender, if it still had its original guns, would be at the top of this list. Those lightspeed guns were very nice and hit very hard. And when the shield had zero physical penetration... The ship was a beast. But just like the Ion they nerfed the s*** out of it.
Thanks!
You mention EM countermeasures when talking about the Shrike at 13:13, but that hasn't been a thing since the CM/missile rework in 3.11 and 3.12. Decoys break lock on all missile types now, and Noise blocks all sensor readouts, regardless of emission type.
If this is true I have been using decoys and noise wrong ... why is stuff like this not explained somewhere
Excellent!
Awesome!
And where are the light fighters here in the video? Except for the Gladius, none of the two other ships shown here is a light fighter! The Arrow, the Mustang Delta or the Gladius are light combat ships, not the Buccaneer or Banu Defender!
what about the Redeemer? if i recall it is nearly the defender price point. I know it is not a light ship, but it feels like after a certain price point, you just want the bang for buck and have fun! :P
I love the Redeemer, but this video is about light fighters. Also it's 105 dollars more than the Banu (not really comparable, imo).
A redeemer without crew is not going to do that well, at least not outside PvE. Any light or medium fighter is going to outmaneuver you and sit on your tail, shooting the shield until you die, they get bored and give up, or you run away.
@@Meatsie damn prices fly by ^^ i bought it the patch before it came out and CCU'd my defender for 25$ more to it ^^
One thing I have to had with the banu def. The range… I know, nothing about combat, but you are not always in combat. Sometimes range will matter.
For me that why I pick it, not best in combat, but overall will give me a little more gameplay
Current meta assuming normalized enemies, not just 'the fastest fighter vs the fastest fighter' Banu defender ftw, that size 2 shield is extremely powerful for the ship size, it has fuel to fly for days even with the best size 1 quantum drive and it has more firepower than most other size one vehicles while maintaining fairly good handling and OP in atmo handling. Use the distortion weapons mixed with laser, the moment you drop any typical size 1 fighters shields and hit them at all they will just drift and let you kill them - they have to do at least 2x the damage you need to do to them to take you out.
the defender bad rolling? pffffffffffff it roll pretyy well
So the game creator recycled their wing commander series ship designs? Most of these silhouettes are near the same design.
Just to be clear…
Most of us have picked a fighter like 4 or 5 years ago…then we realized that CIG is full of shit and that they are NEVER gonna deliver a full working game.
So we don’t care anymore. We don’t ever care enough to go and flip our fleet around to change to more buffed fighters or ships.
So don’t be alarmed if people don’t like or watch this video. Star citizen is pretty much dead for the most of us. It was pretty dead 2 years ago but we didn’t want to admit it…but by now, it is definitely dead-dead.
Homie, you should probably sort out your UA-cam algorithm and start rejecting some channels. Being in a position where you are feeling let down and 'done' with a game but are still commenting on videos about it is an unhealthy spot to be in.
Hope you move on to something that scratches the itch for you, maybes recoup your money on the grey market if you dropped a lot of money on the game. Good luck! o7
@@MysterousBear you seem confused.
Part of commenting is making a negative comment. Now if you can’t deal with it, maybe the comment section is a really unhealthy place for you to be. May I suggest a knitting site comment section for you…I think you will be much happier there.
@@mcthemis62402 Knitting wasn't for me when I tried it, a bit fiddly!
If sitting around the internet watching videos and complaining about a game you don't play is your thing right now, then don't let me get in your way champ. By all accounts you're smashing it out of the park!
Just keep convincing yourself that but that's not reality, only in your mind of which you've been convinced of, well done, you've been done over buy people who make money out of people like you
I've been playing the game regularly. So it's not dead-dead, as you say. Besides, how would you know it's dead if you haven't played it?