@@charlesg5085 huh? I’m not advocating for putting people away before a crime is committed. All I said was stalking needs to be taking more seriously as a crime, if convicted of course. Usually the stalking doesn’t shock some until maybe the victim is murdered or hurt
YES, AGREED. I've been through it as well. It's terrifying. Laws need changed ASAP & before the stalker takes it to the next level... bc it almost always gets WORSE
I am a female physician in a all male prison. One inmate served 15 years for rape & showed up at my house when he was released (googled my name & address). Thankfully he just cursed me out and left when I told him to hit the road… he was sentenced to the maximum possible (because he wasn’t still on parole). A whole 18 months 🙄
@@charlesg5085 You are sounding very incel-ish or at least incel-adjacent? You don't think stalking is a crime? Men can destroy women's lives also. But men have gotten away with the way they treat woman for far too long. Not saying it doesn't happen witb both genders but women have been treated as less than for ever. When you're used to privilege, equality can seem like oppression. The laws need to catch up and there needs to be harsher punishment to deter them from just doing it again or taking it even further!! Which it usually does!! Many have been killed because they don't take it seriously enough. You need help sir. What a sad life you must lead...
@@LawTalkWithMike you should check out the Balle vs Balle hearing. It’s another one of Veterans In Politics’s flunkies who lost custody due to drug use and she acts a straight fool in a half dozen hearings (most of which are zoom)
My mom was literally driven crazy bc she thought my dad was having an affair which he admitted her to the ward since she was having these "delusion" but you know what she was telling the truth
@@amberg4131 , wow thats cold. Thats not just gaslighting someone,... he owned the gas company. I hope she got out and the §6500 institutionalization was expunged.
years ago I chose 5 weekends in jail instead of 20 months probation. I'd just gotten a job and gotten things in order and just didn't want to deal with reporting and paying and whatever else for almost 2 years. 5 weekends was easy peasy. 6 years later I've been straight, continuously employed, got a new car and a house and a couple lady friends (no thrupple 😔)
Sometimes you really have to weigh the odds of being able to live 20 months without screwing ANYTHING up. A lot of probations can be screwed up by a speeding ticket for 5 over. 5 weekends gets it done and over with.
5 weekends was the better deal. People take these 10 year probation or deferred adjudication deals and I’m amazed. What makes you think you can live a perfect life for 10 years????? Granted I haven’t been in any trouble in forever, but just knowing jail was hanging over my head like that would cause me to f up by being over cautious and I’d be screwed.
One of thee Best advice I ever received came from my Great-Great Grandmother RIP, who said, if you chase a boy, that means he's running and I never have. It has served me well. I 💕 You Grandma Grace.
@@LawTalkWithMike Team Skeptic is not up to par .....he doesnt seem your style with his swearing and abrasiveness ......you are always so professional even in the funniest moments and he just doesnt match your channel at all......I LOVE all your other Guests......just not this guy who seems to be a drug addict himself SORRY I just dont see you two being friends at all
When Middleton asked the girl in jail her grandma's name, I half-expected the judge to know her, the family history, etc. He's like some sweet old judge, like something from the Andy Griffith show. I mean that as a kind compliment of the highest kind.
I thought the same, but it’s because I’ve seen him do it several times too! He’s asked defendants with a certain name about several members of their family. He definitely knows most of the community there. Great judge. 👍🏼🤠
He to kind to idiots that get away with crying and like the old lady he let off for 6 months who kept firing lawyer a and didn’t care about the victims who had to go back and fourth for 6 months because he’s to nice he already had a ruling and the old lady at that day fired her lawyer not one not two three times she was playing games and he didn’t not care about the victims it how I no he always feel sorry for the bad ppl and another case judge Jeffery M also felt sorry for he’s friend daughter I would been the landlord I would of stated he need to get off but he didn’t I think that fair she also didn’t pay rent I think Ifor a whole and half year and also looked out for her as well she didn’t pay for a year and he still gave more time to live wow so yeah he s to kind to mothers with kids and scammers like the old lady it crazy I felt bad for that because it not fair he turned everything the lawyers down on everything on how she kept doing this every time
I have anxiety, PTSD, depression, panic disorder, OCD, and I have NEVER been inclined to stalk anyone or call anyone, NOT EVEN my husband, 64 times in a row.
@@Hartleymolly I thought collecting them gave me super powers. (😆 I am just joking). . . In all honesty, I had a rough childhood and a hard young adult life, with tons of unresolved trauma. ❤️
@@sixxygrrl I’m sorry, I wish you nothing but the best. Don’t let the situations and people, that caused you trauma, to be allowed to steal another moment from your precious life. You deserve the best out of life.
I guess I'm just naive but I would think the strict definition of the majority of those diagnoses would draw conclusion to these actions that wouldn't be as absurd as you're insinuating
Everything but OCD and never done any of that. Worked hard to get my meds balanced, and as soon as I feel something slipping (very rarely), I’m immediately talking with docs to work it out
"EVERY TIME I come here (jail), you just want me to sit in a cell!" 😂🤣🤔🤦🏼♀️🙄 U would think she would stop thinking the NEXT time is gonna be different!
Yeah and half the time they’re too dense to realize the Judge is attempting to protect their rights and see to it they get a fair hearing. It’s sad really.
Zoom court is one of *the only* legitimately good things to come out of Covid. Mike has been my indisposable guiding star helpling me navigate it for a while now, lol... Never would have survived the rabbit hole without him.
I only found your channel in the last month-ish, but I absolutely adore how supportive you creators are to others in the same genre!! Mike, Skeptic, Bigen, OSG....I have subbed to several others after you mentioned them Mike and I love when you guys collab!! GREAT WORK!
Hello team :) I am a survivor of domestic violence and this was a great case to see. I dealt with a man who dealt out the abuse but this is another case that needs to be noted. Women can be the abuser and they are alot more often than you would think. Great input guys and thanks for sharing your expertise. Keep it up.
Squish is the best! I love the bits of triumph and compassion he sprinkles in. Very refreshing. 💜💜💜 It's kind of terrifying especially with the ability to stalk via technology. She could have put cameras in his home. Really scary and even moving might not help.
I've met a bunch of people that rather do a short jail sentence instead of a couple years of probation. Usually it's the guys that know people in prison and it doesn't bother them to be locked up. They don't want to deal with the curfew and other conditions of probation. They rather not "use" while in jail instead of not using on probation.
I was thinking the same thing. It's typically people who have been to DOC already and know the ropes. Also, knowing how awful county time is compared to DOC, and knowing the likelihood of reoffending, they would rather just "kill their number and lose their tail" as they say.
The sad reality is that AOD use is more prevalent in county jail and the DOC than it is while on probation. Inside, inmates are rarely AOD tested and everything one could want is available, from alcohol (Prun-O) and Pot to MDMA "Molly", PCP and Fentanyl. Probation requires random AOD testing two to three times a week, completing classes and services as well as maintaining employment or job searching, which includes additional random AOD testing. For some, its easier to get 3 squares, a cot and stay high for 90 days. Then out on the street,... wash, rinse and repeat. Unfortunately the only way to get an addict to become clean, is for them to want to become clean. It can't be forced most of the time, otherwise it is almost a guaranteed relapse every time the attempt is made. I see it daily in my volunteer work. Some parents are willing to take their drug of choice over their children, and then CPS steps in and I hope there is one responsible parent, family member or Non-Related Immediate Family Member to take the kids, instead of foster care. It sucks!
My ex went back to prison to k!11 his term (not due to dr¥gs). I stayed by his side faithfully the entire time and the SECOND he was released, he turned into a deadbeat. I’ve since filed for divorce and it was single-handedly the best decision I’ve ever made. All people like him are con artists.
I don't understand. If anyone breaks parole or violates a bond, DO NOT let them out of jail. Keep them in jail until everything is done to proceed with the case. If they were on parole, just send them back to prison to serve their entire sentence.
Counselor for tiny humans here. More and more of my tiny humans are becoming aware of the names behind their struggles, such as sensory issues, adhd, Autism, etc. And even they have an understanding that those aren't excuses for acting out and hurting & disrupting others, and they're literally ages from 4 to 9. Our diagnoses can help explain pur behavior but it's not an excuse. I'm autistic and ADHD. I have severe sensory issues and get overwhelmed if there is a lot of overlapping sounds such as multiple conversations at once, but I don't get a free to pass throw things, break things, or scream my head off because of it. I have to use accommodations, talk to people ahead of time, and learn coping strategies through my own therapy. You have to not only get the help but actually use it
My new favorite court watching channel. I'm not a lawyer and even I find this stuff funny. I have cancer and couldn't sleep last night and I found your channel. I'm always looking for stuff that will make me lol. I needed something to make me laugh and forget about stuff and binge watched your channel
My 2 favorite sources for wild court cases. One has the screaming goat which is a hoot and the other one has people who eat too many crayons and lead paint. Both of you guys are fun to watch.😂 👍
Judge Middleton you are total example of a class judge filled with reason Ana compassion . This young lady need help. Debbie Davis does her job nut in her heart she feels for this woman
Her voice alone would make me stay away. And OMG I've been watching Skeptic for a couple of years and didn't know this was who you were mentioning. He does great SovCit videos and knows what he's talking about.
Stalking is seriously so scary. I was in college and this guy gave me his number in a playful way! We talked a few times and the next thing I knew, I stg he was calling me to wake me up at 4 or 5 am when he was going to work and I was still in school!! I didn’t realize bc I as naive and a virgin that he was trying to control me but I thought he was so nice lmao. He was calling me to wake me when I had a new kitten and was in college. I was so tired every morning and he would tell me to WAKE UP lmao. I was trying to impress him so I would act much more mature than I was when he called me but he started showing up where I was at school, at work, and then at my parents house! I went out with friends; female friends, we went bowling and he called my phone so many times I don’t Even remember. My friend answered to be rude and joke around and he told her he would hunt her down 😮 eventually when he started freaking me out he started calling me saying he was going to cut me up with an axe and that he was following me everywhere. It was really scary
Ms. Mason is a busy lady... LOL!!! 😁😏 Kudos to Ben - he did his job well! If I ever get into trouble, I hope I have a lawyer like him in my corner! Plus, he seems like a great guy! Thank you Mike, Team Skeptic and Mr. Bateman for a great video! Glad you're feeling better, Mike! ❣🎊
Stalking is no joke. My eldest daughter's ex was stalking her, their children, and my youngest daughter and her family (2 sons & husband) and was planning on demising them all. Fortunately, last week he demised himself. Had been bragging how he was going out with a bang - them all first then himself. And said, children first then adults. My 2 daughters have been living on alert in fear for a year. Driving by, threatening calls, telling his daughters (11 and 9 yr old) what he was going to do.
Man, so this is what they mean when "a narcissist looses there victim"... If anger, defamation, controlling then love bombing doesn't work- and their old tactics no longer work..next is threats/anger. Frankly He needs protection 😂 like, i get it now how "a narcissist hates losing control, and the benefits of their 'trophies' that made them feel better takes back control of there life.... It gets a little scary depending on how attached the narcissist was. I could be wrong .. she may have other personality disorders on top of it, but this sounds like a classic case of this disorder as well. I truly hope that she can move on, and be truly happy again. ❤ And for him, I hope that he keeps control, doesn't go back ... And she leaves him alone as well as him be happy too.
Because this ain't it... This is so freaking toxic. One day she will realize that he did what's best finalizing the relationship - and she will look back and realize this was NEVER love, obsession and adoring someone can trick your mind to think "this is love"_ this is not. This too shall pass. I promise. ❤️
Ladies is plural, 10, 100, 1,000, ladies, lady's is something about 1 woman, lady's faces, the funny faces one lady makes....why why why does no one ever seem to get this article of grammar right? Am I the last person to pass an English class focused on grammar?
This was definitely one of the Best videos I've seen on this channel.. Loved to see Team Skeptic (which I just was introduced to his channel recently) He's a Super Funny Dude.. And Ben Bateman was a Blast! I was hoping he would show up soon after the sentencing of K.B. And of course our Best Lawyer yet, Mike Gravlin. Awesome show Mike, I so thoroughly enjoyed it!! Thank you!! 😁
I don't like this. If that was a man doing that to a woman, with exactly the same facts and actions he would be in jail looking at prison. It's about time women are held accountable
Woman here agreeing 1000%. I feel for this guy and fear for him and his two girls. This lady needs a psych evaluation. If a guy had thrown a drink at a gal like that, he’d probably be up for non-violent assault or some such. At the very least she needs to be admitted into an inpatient ward long enough to rebalance her meds.
I know this is an old case but was watching and had the exact same thought. A man acting like she did would already be in jail, no question. She is toxic and needs to be held accountable.
Gonna have to disagree. Maybe in the last 10 years- but the strength of such laws varies from state to state. W. VA actually got rid of its law and just reenacted it as of May 2023. Go on Investigation Discovery and watch Stalked. Or Obsession: Dark Desires. SO MANY of these women tried and tried before they could get anything done whatsoever. Many of the laws aren't strong enough, aren't up to date (such as keeping up with how technology assists stalkers) or the penalties are so weak that they don't deter jack. And judging by the sheer volume of shows on the ID channel- many of which involve stalking of some kind- they're obviously not keeping the guys in there long enough.
When my friend was 18, he got busted shoplifting some cough syrup so we could get high. The judge offered him 60 hours community service or 2 days in jail and really tried to talk him out of picking jail when he chose it. I asked my friend later why he chose jail because that seemed like the worst and he said "it's better to just get it over with in 2 days instead of payong $100 to spend months doing community service." Also, my other friend's dad was the judge so that's part of why he tried to talk him out of jail. Can you tell I lived in a small town?
Had a teacher who did volunteer work in a prison. Told us the house arrest system where ppl can only go to work and back while having a GPS tether, that system is torture to some people, they'll rather sit in jail then be done with it.
Oh my gosh, Prosecutor Jessica Blanch is gorgeous. It is almost worth doing something wrong just be in the same courtroom with her. Jeeze, regarding the Stalker wearing a hoodie to be clandestine…try a Ghille Suit. A Ghille Suit is my “Go-To”.😂 Cheers to you Mike,TS and Ben. 🇨🇦
Zoom Court won't be able to stay a thing if people keep running around, doing errands, jogging, etc. while they're on their Zoom Court calls. It's unfortunate, since it's very convenient as a way to go through cases, but these people keep acting as if they can do whatever they want there at the same time as long as their phone is there with them. Including people like Natheeulean. She's lucky she got a more laid back Judge in a good mood. I'm sure as lawyers, you all can hear that same reply echoing in your minds when she asks if she can say something - "Nooo! Nooo!"
LMAO Every time he puts both hands to his face, it's not good, in like kind our Debbie's mannerisms & facial expressions are readable. Bless them both, Awesome!
Stalking is a crime that should have strong consequences. I've been stalked, and it's horrid. There aren't enough laws on it yet.
It’s a shame stalking carries more seriousness after something bad actually happens, instead of prevention.
@@charlesg5085 huh? I’m not advocating for putting people away before a crime is committed. All I said was stalking needs to be taking more seriously as a crime, if convicted of course. Usually the stalking doesn’t shock some until maybe the victim is murdered or hurt
YES, AGREED. I've been through it as well. It's terrifying. Laws need changed ASAP & before the stalker takes it to the next level... bc it almost always gets WORSE
I am a female physician in a all male prison. One inmate served 15 years for rape & showed up at my house when he was released (googled my name & address). Thankfully he just cursed me out and left when I told him to hit the road… he was sentenced to the maximum possible (because he wasn’t still on parole). A whole 18 months 🙄
@@charlesg5085 You are sounding very incel-ish or at least incel-adjacent? You don't think stalking is a crime? Men can destroy women's lives also. But men have gotten away with the way they treat woman for far too long. Not saying it doesn't happen witb both genders but women have been treated as less than for ever. When you're used to privilege, equality can seem like oppression. The laws need to catch up and there needs to be harsher punishment to deter them from just doing it again or taking it even further!! Which it usually does!! Many have been killed because they don't take it seriously enough. You need help sir. What a sad life you must lead...
Middleton can completely dissect a person in the most polite way possible. He is a gem to the court system IMO.
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@@LawTalkWithMike you should check out the Balle vs Balle hearing. It’s another one of Veterans In Politics’s flunkies who lost custody due to drug use and she acts a straight fool in a half dozen hearings (most of which are zoom)
My mom was literally driven crazy bc she thought my dad was having an affair which he admitted her to the ward since she was having these "delusion" but you know what she was telling the truth
@@amberg4131 , wow thats cold. Thats not just gaslighting someone,... he owned the gas company. I hope she got out and the §6500 institutionalization was expunged.
@luxonlex4453 when was this? No one is getting sent to IPU for the "delusion" that they're being cheated on. That's not how that works.
years ago I chose 5 weekends in jail instead of 20 months probation. I'd just gotten a job and gotten things in order and just didn't want to deal with reporting and paying and whatever else for almost 2 years. 5 weekends was easy peasy. 6 years later I've been straight, continuously employed, got a new car and a house and a couple lady friends (no thrupple 😔)
Well done 👍
Sometimes you really have to weigh the odds of being able to live 20 months without screwing ANYTHING up. A lot of probations can be screwed up by a speeding ticket for 5 over. 5 weekends gets it done and over with.
FuckinA dude!!
5 weekends was the better deal. People take these 10 year probation or deferred adjudication deals and I’m amazed. What makes you think you can live a perfect life for 10 years????? Granted I haven’t been in any trouble in forever, but just knowing jail was hanging over my head like that would cause me to f up by being over cautious and I’d be screwed.
Good for you 😁😅
One of thee Best advice I ever received came from my Great-Great Grandmother RIP, who said, if you chase a boy, that means he's running and I never have. It has served me well. I 💕 You Grandma Grace.
The old wisdom and cures are the Best. I specialized in a senior community as a realtor for year's. I learned a lot.
Mine taught me how to make them chase me 😂 I’m happily married now for 10 years 😊 He’s the best.
Love it
#singlelife!
Amen to that advice I wish I had it when I was young. ;)
LOL. "Jail time is not going to be beneficial to me". I am sure everyone facing jail time feels that way.
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@@LawTalkWithMike Team Skeptic is not up to par .....he doesnt seem your style with his swearing and abrasiveness ......you are always so professional even in the funniest moments and he just doesnt match your channel at all......I LOVE all your other Guests......just not this guy who seems to be a drug addict himself SORRY I just dont see you two being friends at all
Mike is a lawyer, he has to be professional, represents himself very well. Skeptic is not.
@@raintree3383seems like an odd place to leave your critique. Maybe you don’t know Mike as well as you think you do.
@@raintree3383um okay? I love team skeptic he’s the best! Your loss!
When Middleton asked the girl in jail her grandma's name, I half-expected the judge to know her, the family history, etc. He's like some sweet old judge, like something from the Andy Griffith show. I mean that as a kind compliment of the highest kind.
Truth
Same! I want the story behind the girl he knew that lived on the victim's street.
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As a kind compliment of the highest order
I thought the same, but it’s because I’ve seen him do it several times too! He’s asked defendants with a certain name about several members of their family. He definitely knows most of the community there. Great judge. 👍🏼🤠
The amount of compassion Judge Middleton has and uses in his courtroom is inspiring.
He to kind to idiots that get away with crying and like the old lady he let off for 6 months who kept firing lawyer a and didn’t care about the victims who had to go back and fourth for 6 months because he’s to nice he already had a ruling and the old lady at that day fired her lawyer not one not two three times she was playing games and he didn’t not care about the victims it how I no he always feel sorry for the bad ppl and another case judge Jeffery M also felt sorry for he’s friend daughter I would been the landlord I would of stated he need to get off but he didn’t I think that fair she also didn’t pay rent I think Ifor a whole and half year and also looked out for her as well she didn’t pay for a year and he still gave more time to live wow so yeah he s to kind to mothers with kids and scammers like the old lady it crazy I felt bad for that because it not fair he turned everything the lawyers down on everything on how she kept doing this every time
I would like to listen/watch today and l like Skiptards personality but his filthy language is so off-putting. Maybe will try again tomorrow.
Dang Middleton is better than I thought. What are they going to do when he (ever) retires? He’s such a boss.
It’s never a good sign when you’ve been arrested so many times you can’t remember which case you’re in court for that day 😂
Why don't you ask your friend team skeptic, he's a killer
@@TheMadSmokerwhat do you speak of?
Saw one the other day who was in 2 zoom court cases at the same time!
Omg lmao 😂 I love her lawyer when she said “is this the one where I had the crack pipe?” Lmao 🤣 he was like “well so much for that offer”
Skeptic should have a lot more followers. He's the reason I know about this channel. I adore him
He is my favourite
I have anxiety, PTSD, depression, panic disorder, OCD, and I have NEVER been inclined to stalk anyone or call anyone, NOT EVEN my husband, 64 times in a row.
why do you have all of those diagnosis? (If I may ask)
@@Hartleymolly I thought collecting them gave me super powers. (😆 I am just joking). . . In all honesty, I had a rough childhood and a hard young adult life, with tons of unresolved trauma. ❤️
@@sixxygrrl I’m sorry, I wish you nothing but the best. Don’t let the situations and people, that caused you trauma, to be allowed to steal another moment from your precious life. You deserve the best out of life.
I guess I'm just naive but I would think the strict definition of the majority of those diagnoses would draw conclusion to these actions that wouldn't be as absurd as you're insinuating
Everything but OCD and never done any of that. Worked hard to get my meds balanced, and as soon as I feel something slipping (very rarely), I’m immediately talking with docs to work it out
"So she's newly single fellas." I actually spit my coffee out. 🤣
8:16 😂💀🤦🏻♀️ “is this the one I had the crack pipe”.oh dear lawd.
"EVERY TIME I come here (jail), you just want me to sit in a cell!"
😂🤣🤔🤦🏼♀️🙄
U would think she would stop thinking the NEXT time is gonna be different!
Lol what does she expect to do in jail?!
Honestly, this judge was so incredibly calm and smart and compassionate with the sad love harassment case. I’m impressed.
The defense attorney even suggesting they’ll get back together down the road is instigating, those voicemails are actually scary
I found them on SM. It’s Sep 2023 aaanndd theyyyy’rrreeee….. together 😂
@@elizabethrosas9282no way!!!!!! What’s her name? I know he’s Richard Moody but I couldn’t find him on FB
That’s EFFED UP
@@elizabethrosas9282what???? Where is the evidence ? I have to follow this drama 😂
Extremely scary!!
I'm just impressed with how many of these judges actually want to help the defendants.
Of course! They aren’t supposed to lean toward one party over another. That’s the hardest part of the job!
Yeah and half the time they’re too dense to realize the Judge is attempting to protect their rights and see to it they get a fair hearing. It’s sad really.
“Can I say something?” NO!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I found you because of Depp Heard, but I have to tell you, I love your content!! And through you have gone down the rabbit hole of zoom court!!
Zoom court is one of *the only* legitimately good things to come out of Covid. Mike has been my indisposable guiding star helpling me navigate it for a while now, lol...
Never would have survived the rabbit hole without him.
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You lucky duck. You've got a huge backlog of content to go through. It sucks being caught up LOL
Welcome to the party! Mike’s the best 👍💐
LoL
56:50 “I have no history of violence” - just committed a battery in a very public setting 🙄🤦♂️
I only found your channel in the last month-ish, but I absolutely adore how supportive you creators are to others in the same genre!! Mike, Skeptic, Bigen, OSG....I have subbed to several others after you mentioned them Mike and I love when you guys collab!! GREAT WORK!
Have you checked out Natalie lawyer chick?
@@Devils.Advocate.thx for the suggestion, just checked her out. Her channel looks awesome 👍🏿
What a caring judge. I can't say enough good things about judge Middleton. What a great judge, what a great person! I wish I knew him!
I love the " jail won't help me" comment. I'm pretty sure they are looking to help him, the victim, not her the stalker.
I like how you guys collaborate and share clips and stuff for each other’s content.
Good vibes
Juvenile. It’s frightening they are attorneys. I’d never hire them to represent me in any court of law.
@@daynasafranek7807why? I'm just curious 🙃
I adore Team Skeptic. He is great. You two together are awesome!
You have the user name I tried to get! Alabaster here! How about you?
Agree 💯
The more I watch Judge Middleton, the better I like him. Wise people are kind of rare these days. He stays cool headed in hot situations. Like that.
The look on Napalines' lawyers face while she goes on and on is priceless 😂😂😂
Great stream . .
Team Skeptic’s always a joy and blessed Ben too . . Magic ✨
Team skeptic is what led me to find Mike. Thank you to both of you for keeping me smiling 😊
I love it when you guys get together! Pure MAGIC! Thanks 😁
Hello team :) I am a survivor of domestic violence and this was a great case to see. I dealt with a man who dealt out the abuse but this is another case that needs to be noted. Women can be the abuser and they are alot more often than you would think. Great input guys and thanks for sharing your expertise. Keep it up.
IE: Amber H?
@@redpill1940 You mean the case where they were both toxic and abusive to each other?
@blue dragonfly you mean the NO EVIDENCE of Johnny being abusive and countless evidenced of Amber's abuse and lies?
We’re all survivors
Squish is the best! I love the bits of triumph and compassion he sprinkles in. Very refreshing. 💜💜💜
It's kind of terrifying especially with the ability to stalk via technology. She could have put cameras in his home. Really scary and even moving might not help.
I'm so glad I've never been arrested and had to go to court to defend myself but that's because I don't do things that would ever lead to that.
OMG - and I dreaming? My two favorite U-tubers together in a video!! Am I dreaming ? 😊😊 Love you Skeptic, love you Mike … you guys rock!
Did Nathaleen say a “ bitch warrant” NOT A CRACK PIPE!?! 😫😂🤣
Judge Simpson saying “ allegedly“ had me rolling! 😅
When she said Crack pipe that attorney Died inside, I had tears coming down my face... I haven't laughed that hard in a while......
This woman's so obsessed she brought the Bee Gees into it. I was totally humming "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" through the rest of her testimony
I've met a bunch of people that rather do a short jail sentence instead of a couple years of probation. Usually it's the guys that know people in prison and it doesn't bother them to be locked up. They don't want to deal with the curfew and other conditions of probation. They rather not "use" while in jail instead of not using on probation.
I was thinking the same thing. It's typically people who have been to DOC already and know the ropes. Also, knowing how awful county time is compared to DOC, and knowing the likelihood of reoffending, they would rather just "kill their number and lose their tail" as they say.
The sad reality is that AOD use is more prevalent in county jail and the DOC than it is while on probation. Inside, inmates are rarely AOD tested and everything one could want is available, from alcohol (Prun-O) and Pot to MDMA "Molly", PCP and Fentanyl. Probation requires random AOD testing two to three times a week, completing classes and services as well as maintaining employment or job searching, which includes additional random AOD testing. For some, its easier to get 3 squares, a cot and stay high for 90 days. Then out on the street,... wash, rinse and repeat.
Unfortunately the only way to get an addict to become clean, is for them to want to become clean. It can't be forced most of the time, otherwise it is almost a guaranteed relapse every time the attempt is made. I see it daily in my volunteer work. Some parents are willing to take their drug of choice over their children, and then CPS steps in and I hope there is one responsible parent, family member or Non-Related Immediate Family Member to take the kids, instead of foster care. It sucks!
My ex went back to prison to k!11 his term (not due to dr¥gs). I stayed by his side faithfully the entire time and the SECOND he was released, he turned into a deadbeat. I’ve since filed for divorce and it was single-handedly the best decision I’ve ever made. All people like him are con artists.
Yeh, and if locked up, they've got a place to sleep and something food-like to eat.
It’s like she’s covering her mouth so you can’t smell the liquor on her breath. LOL
I don't understand. If anyone breaks parole or violates a bond, DO NOT let them out of jail. Keep them in jail until everything is done to proceed with the case. If they were on parole, just send them back to prison to serve their entire sentence.
I love that you had Ben and Team Skeptic on! Really enjoyed that!
Thanks! Two of my favorites. Law Talk and Team Skeptic. I can't ever catch either you live. Buy him a drink.
That'll be tricky, they're in different states doing a link up remotely to do this
Counselor for tiny humans here. More and more of my tiny humans are becoming aware of the names behind their struggles, such as sensory issues, adhd, Autism, etc. And even they have an understanding that those aren't excuses for acting out and hurting & disrupting others, and they're literally ages from 4 to 9. Our diagnoses can help explain pur behavior but it's not an excuse. I'm autistic and ADHD. I have severe sensory issues and get overwhelmed if there is a lot of overlapping sounds such as multiple conversations at once, but I don't get a free to pass throw things, break things, or scream my head off because of it. I have to use accommodations, talk to people ahead of time, and learn coping strategies through my own therapy. You have to not only get the help but actually use it
Great points. I agree completely.
UA-cam is recommending older vids, so here we are! I’m glad I caught it, though late. Did we get an update on the stalking case at all?
My new favorite court watching channel. I'm not a lawyer and even I find this stuff funny. I have cancer and couldn't sleep last night and I found your channel. I'm always looking for stuff that will make me lol. I needed something to make me laugh and forget about stuff and binge watched your channel
Awwww thank you 😘
Cindy prayers for your health and healing.
I had been in a toxic relationship like that once which ended up cost me everything including my home. So I do understand where he is coming from.
My 2 favorite sources for wild court cases. One has the screaming goat which is a hoot and the other one has people who eat too many crayons and lead paint. Both of you guys are fun to watch.😂 👍
So much fun watching you guys. And I learn so much. Thank you for entertaining us. Greets from Switzerland.
LOVE your channel!
She’s extremely dangerous because she’s competent yet defiant!! It’s that defiance that can flip to dangerous plus he has kids to protect
Judge Middleton you are total example of a class judge filled with reason Ana compassion . This young lady need help. Debbie Davis does her job nut in her heart she feels for this woman
Her voice alone would make me stay away. And OMG I've been watching Skeptic for a couple of years and didn't know this was who you were mentioning. He does great SovCit videos and knows what he's talking about.
The attorneys face when she mentions the pipe. Lmao that was so funny
The stalker lady is giving Jodi Arias vibes 😳
Exactly! I worry about Mr Moody
Skeptic is the reason I found your channel. It's SUCH a good channel.
Omg. Mr. Messer and the throuple....🤣🤣🤣 I can't breathe!! Thank you Mike!! My soul needed that after this week. 🙌
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6:13 I love that Judge goes from covering his face with his hands to holding up paper over the screen. Great ep! Thank you!
Stalker’s freak me out. I always get really worried for the victims.
Love Judge Middleton. Why do you want me in a cell. Lol. My brokenhearted woman is definitely a stocker. This has been great.
Just Joined from the Top of Maine. I only wish I had not missed this Live. The both of you are Platinum!!
The fact that this dude hasn't come home to a bunny boiling on the stove is a shocker...
Stalking is seriously so scary. I was in college and this guy gave me his number in a playful way! We talked a few times and the next thing I knew, I stg he was calling me to wake me up at 4 or 5 am when he was going to work and I was still in school!! I didn’t realize bc I as naive and a virgin that he was trying to control me but I thought he was so nice lmao. He was calling me to wake me when I had a new kitten and was in college. I was so tired every morning and he would tell me to WAKE UP lmao. I was trying to impress him so I would act much more mature than I was when he called me but he started showing up where I was at school, at work, and then at my parents house! I went out with friends; female friends, we went bowling and he called my phone so many times I don’t
Even remember. My friend answered to be rude and joke around and he told her he would hunt her down 😮 eventually when he started freaking me out he started calling me saying he was going to cut me up with an axe and that he was following me everywhere. It was really scary
Jail is not going to help you, it’s going to help him. That’s the whole reason why we’re here…
So sorry I missed the live!! This is gold!
Thank You 😘
Me too! A Mike/Team/Ben B collab? And I missed it live? Bummer!
Still fun on replay, of course 👍💐
For real though, it Is Sad 😔 Obsession beyond obsession
Ms. Mason is a busy lady... LOL!!! 😁😏 Kudos to Ben - he did his job well! If I ever get into trouble, I hope I have a lawyer like him in my corner! Plus, he seems like a great guy! Thank you Mike, Team Skeptic and Mr. Bateman for a great video! Glad you're feeling better, Mike! ❣🎊
Thank You Connie 🥰
Oh 64 calls in one day? That sounds perfectly reasonable and sounds like someone of very sound mind would do! Nothing wrong there!
The best to looking men on the courts. Mike and Ben
Omg, Mike. The Cool Hand Luke reference had me swooning too.
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Stalking is no joke. My eldest daughter's ex was stalking her, their children, and my youngest daughter and her family (2 sons & husband) and was planning on demising them all. Fortunately, last week he demised himself. Had been bragging how he was going out with a bang - them all first then himself. And said, children first then adults. My 2 daughters have been living on alert in fear for a year. Driving by, threatening calls, telling his daughters (11 and 9 yr old) what he was going to do.
Judge Simpson is awesome, hi judge . Texas
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Man, so this is what they mean when "a narcissist looses there victim"...
If anger, defamation, controlling then love bombing doesn't work- and their old tactics no longer work..next is threats/anger. Frankly He needs protection 😂 like, i get it now how "a narcissist hates losing control, and the benefits of their 'trophies' that made them feel better takes back control of there life.... It gets a little scary depending on how attached the narcissist was. I could be wrong .. she may have other personality disorders on top of it, but this sounds like a classic case of this disorder as well. I truly hope that she can move on, and be truly happy again. ❤ And for him, I hope that he keeps control, doesn't go back ... And she leaves him alone as well as him be happy too.
Because this ain't it... This is so freaking toxic. One day she will realize that he did what's best finalizing the relationship - and she will look back and realize this was NEVER love, obsession and adoring someone can trick your mind to think "this is love"_ this is not. This too shall pass. I promise. ❤️
So happy I found this channel! I absolutely love this stuff.
The prosecution ladies faces were awesome. When she asked about the Crack pipe the top right girl was doing everything in her power to not laugh
She was awesome 😂
Ladies is plural, 10, 100, 1,000, ladies, lady's is something about 1 woman, lady's faces, the funny faces one lady makes....why why why does no one ever seem to get this article of grammar right? Am I the last person to pass an English class focused on grammar?
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This was definitely one of the Best videos I've seen on this channel.. Loved to see Team Skeptic (which I just was introduced to his channel recently) He's a Super Funny Dude.. And Ben Bateman was a Blast! I was hoping he would show up soon after the sentencing of K.B. And of course our Best Lawyer yet, Mike Gravlin. Awesome show Mike, I so thoroughly enjoyed it!! Thank you!! 😁
You know what I like about Mike. He never cusses. Thanks for that!!! Tell your friend it adds nothing to the podcast.
Please thank Ben for coming back again. He's a class act.
Coming back means again, to say coming back again is a grammatical double positive, grammar suicide salad, come back or come again , not both
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Wonderful commentary Mike 🐶🥰
Thanks!
I don't like this. If that was a man doing that to a woman, with exactly the same facts and actions he would be in jail looking at prison. It's about time women are held accountable
Woman here agreeing 1000%. I feel for this guy and fear for him and his two girls. This lady needs a psych evaluation. If a guy had thrown a drink at a gal like that, he’d probably be up for non-violent assault or some such.
At the very least she needs to be admitted into an inpatient ward long enough to rebalance her meds.
I know this is an old case but was watching and had the exact same thought. A man acting like she did would already be in jail, no question. She is toxic and needs to be held accountable.
Gonna have to disagree. Maybe in the last 10 years- but the strength of such laws varies from state to state. W. VA actually got rid of its law and just reenacted it as of May 2023.
Go on Investigation Discovery and watch Stalked. Or Obsession: Dark Desires. SO MANY of these women tried and tried before they could get anything done whatsoever. Many of the laws aren't strong enough, aren't up to date (such as keeping up with how technology assists stalkers) or the penalties are so weak that they don't deter jack.
And judging by the sheer volume of shows on the ID channel- many of which involve stalking of some kind- they're obviously not keeping the guys in there long enough.
I’m so glad you’re covering this.
Happy to make you laugh and honored for the pin, Mike!
well done!
When my friend was 18, he got busted shoplifting some cough syrup so we could get high. The judge offered him 60 hours community service or 2 days in jail and really tried to talk him out of picking jail when he chose it.
I asked my friend later why he chose jail because that seemed like the worst and he said "it's better to just get it over with in 2 days instead of payong $100 to spend months doing community service."
Also, my other friend's dad was the judge so that's part of why he tried to talk him out of jail.
Can you tell I lived in a small town?
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Had a teacher who did volunteer work in a prison. Told us the house arrest system where ppl can only go to work and back while having a GPS tether, that system is torture to some people, they'll rather sit in jail then be done with it.
I used to be involved with the criminal justice system and I’d pick 2 days in jail everytime
Ahh!! How have I not seen this! Two awesome channels in the same place.
Amber starting at 21:52 reminded me so much of Aubry Plaza, I had a feeling this would end up on the channel somehow. Thank's
Thanks! Just one question…at what point did judge Middleton go from no ponytail to ponytail. Just noticed in earlier videos it was no ponytail
Well as it got longer he pretty much had to go that way
I started watching 2 weeks ago and now I'm hooked and pissing my wife off, THANKS GUYS!
You both are great and so are your channels/shows.
I laughed out loud on Mavis and all her crimes!
LUVVVVV the idea of the two of you together! My two favorite guys. Thank you SOOOO MUCH. 😂😂😂
BTW, who is Robin??
Same Bat cannel, Same Bat Time. Lol
My best friend turns out is a Sovereign Citizen, who would've known?? It's crazy, we argue everything! I think she's NUTS, but I love her passion
Oh my gosh, Prosecutor Jessica Blanch is gorgeous.
It is almost worth doing something wrong just be in the same courtroom with her.
Jeeze, regarding the Stalker wearing a hoodie to be clandestine…try a Ghille Suit.
A Ghille Suit is my “Go-To”.😂
Cheers to you Mike,TS and Ben. 🇨🇦
Best stream with Ben, Mike and Team Skeptic. Had to go back and watch again
No empathy she has made it so there is no recourse but to go to jail. She can only blame herself for where she is at .
Is this the one where I had the crack pipe??" Lmao said that like it's a normal thing 😂
Zoom Court won't be able to stay a thing if people keep running around, doing errands, jogging, etc. while they're on their Zoom Court calls. It's unfortunate, since it's very convenient as a way to go through cases, but these people keep acting as if they can do whatever they want there at the same time as long as their phone is there with them. Including people like Natheeulean. She's lucky she got a more laid back Judge in a good mood. I'm sure as lawyers, you all can hear that same reply echoing in your minds when she asks if she can say something - "Nooo! Nooo!"
Judge Middleton is such a great judge! Very compassionate and uses his knowledge well. 😊
There sure has been a lot of interesting court cases involving females lately. Thank you for the video. Great collection of videos. :) ivan
There was no kids involved, correct?
I don’t think so.
BB & TS in the house watching Judge Middleton and our Debbie D Awesome!
I'm LMAO.,. Was this the home Depot or the one where I was carrying a crack pipe OMG 🤣 how can you possibly defend somebody like this? but they do.
Love Team Skeptic!! love both of your channel's
Poor lawyer is having a heart attack
LMAO Every time he puts both hands to his face, it's not good, in like kind our Debbie's mannerisms & facial expressions are readable. Bless them both, Awesome!