Most Modern Leopard BREAKS Top Tier - Leopard 2A7V Ft. Nukes! - War Thunder
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The German Leopard 2A7V, the latest and greatest for the German Top Tier environment, with an added spall liner, and superior armor to the 2A6, but at a siginficant cost to overall performance!
00:00 - The Necessary Intro
07:13 - The Germans Rise
11:57 - Static Position FTW!
15:02 - The Unwilling Sacrifice
19:03 - ABSOLUTE CHAOS
21:41 - The Nuclear Finale
27:32 - Final Thoughts
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Leo 2A7V is a variat of a Leopard 2 that came out in 2019, but it does have worse beak composite on the hull than Swedish Strv 122's from 1990's.... Yes, having finally a properly armored Leopard with gen3 thermals is great but when a vehicle is adertised with D-tech armor package and the stats are worse than C-tech armor with composite armor multipliers artificially lowered doesn't seems fair.
It also is 2 tons heavier and still has way weaker armor than strv 122
wehraboos will get the best tank in the game and still complain
@@silos4783but it’s literally not the best because it’s been nerfed to the ground
@@silos4783cry baby
@@silos4783 stop lying bro
i love that all the 122's get side spall liners but ONLY the 2a7 for Germany gets a side spall liner while the pso,2a5 and 2a6 only have roof spall liners lol
They have spall liners on the turret sides and front. It is just hard to see
Abrams with only slightly less spalling on its fuel tanks:
Do you have sekrit dokuments that prove otherwise? Oh you do? Well we cannot use these dokuments because they are sekrit.
you act like all of russias mbts get spall liners, its incentive to grind new tanks
@@billybobj9988 i not even talking about russia here, just pointing out the fact that every 122 gets a side spall liner but only one german tank does
The 2A7V have in real life a better transmission for the increase weight so it should be as agile as the other Leopard 2s
And has d-tech armor, which means it should have better armor than the 122
@@Master-of-Thunder yeah and it also has a external generator that allows the electronic components to continue running when the engine is off and it would be a cool feature in the game
@@kevlar2536gaijin does that for balancing so no one just sits in a corner with their engine off
yep, it should have the same acceleration and mobility as the Leo 2A4.
It also shouldn't fire DM53 (phased out in 2004) but DM53A1, DM63 (both these 2 are pm the same as DM53 but more reliable throughout different temperatures) and DM73 (which does have way more pen)
Pls submit the bug reports for that, so the devs may change something@@Master-of-Thunder
The 61 km/h top speed seems to be a complete fabrication, right on the Bundeswehr's official site is displayed 63 km/h.
The reduction of top speed was done by shortening the gear ratios, due to the extra weight of the vehicle. This resulted in the 2A7V actually showing superior agility characteristics to the previous 2A6M, despite its heavier weight.
Oh and in addition, the base armour should be stronger than the 2A5/A6s (and Strv 122 as a result), while the external add-on armour should be the same as on Strv 122, amounting to greater protection over Strv 122.
In game however, the 2A7V's add-on armour has a kinetic armour modifier of 0.825, while the Strv 122's has 1.3, for the exact same type of armour. This is obviously made up horseshit.
To my knowledge the 2a7V is supposed to have D type armor on the hull which is better than the Strv 122B+ armor which is C type. So why tf has Gaijin made the 2a7v hull armor worse than the Strv 122B+? I’ve tested them in the protection analysis and the 122B+ bounces/absorbs 3bm60 while the 2a7v doesn’t. I really want to understand Gaijin’s thought process cause this is public information
because they don’t do any research if it’s not russian vehicle
@@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274amazing how you managed to blame it on russian mains on a comment complaining about sweden in a video about a german tank
@@xpcube Becuase it's true that Gaijin is biased toward Russian vehicles, basically sucking Russia's dick at that point.
@@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274you are not in the reddit echo chamber no more, so start up your brain
@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 love how the problem here is with Sweden but you connect it to Russia Lol
The armor on this thing saved me numerous times. Russian mains were used to just aim generally at the hull. It's not reliable, but you have a better chance of surviving a hit with this rather than the a6
@@user-sc8ou7dn5q lol Russian main?
@@user-sc8ou7dn5q shut
Well I mean Russians only have like 500 and something pen so
@@Tdransomsdooz they all got more in top tier but anyways it doesnt matter u can do these shots on all leos except to 2a7v even with 3bm42
As a Russian main I just accept fate when coming against a leo 2a7, unless i can see the LFP
The spall liner works so well agains smaller caliber rounds, for example pantsirs and 2s38's have had a very hard time killing me
finally the 2s38 has some sort of counter, still, that thing needs to be 11.0+
@@notafrog2040got it, its now 9.0
@@notafrog2040I think it's pretty much balanced at 10.0 rn with cv9040s
@@Jason-jb1vs💀
@@HiDro111 I recked so many idiots in 2s38 even with a bagel, I guess you are one of them
20:20 love that you called that IS-2 a KV-2 lmao
Stalin would be disapppointed 💀
Leopard 2
B-Tech + Mexas = 650mm KE
C-Tech + Mexas = 750mm KE
Source: Swedish Trials
Strv122 uses C-Tech + Mexas
Leopard 2A7V uses D-Tech hull + Mexas
And yet Gaijin made it worse than the Strv122 so stupid
Stop copping
So,ehow there are areas on the turret face with
@@Boomshakalaga you spelled “coping” wrong I suggest spelling correctly first if you want to be an asshole
For one these [X]-Tech designations are made up bullshit, for two, because they are made up bullshit, D-tech actually refers to the base armour + the add-on armour, for some reason.
As a note, I did press zero, but when in first person, so aiming down sight, the option is disabled - you can see that in the video as well. It is only available in 3rd person now. So I was aiming down sights and pressed 0 like a maniac :D
Justin!! important note about mine protection plate!! without it, it's easy-peasy to kill this thing on level from the front with Swedish 40mm APFSDS on the Strf 9040C (works with B too), there's a tiny sliver of the front lower-plate that is so thin that you can just spam hits through it with relative ease, even at range, this mine plate basically makes this one weakpoint invulnerable. (I kill Leo 2A4s/5s/6s all day with this weakness)
The 2A7 got the transmission changed so it, has got a faster acceleration, but it loses a bit of top speed, which it doesn’t need IRL, but the quicker acceleration is much appreciated
the 2a5, 2a6, and PSO all have turret spall liners in game and at the very least it is historically accurate for the 2a5, not sure on the other two though.
2A6 is apparently also correct but the 2 PSO should get D-Tech and hull spall liners
The V in the 2a7 stands for "verbessert" which means improved.
True official speed is 72km/h, off road roughly 40km/h.
The real version has gen 3 thermals like the 2a6 and 2a7 got years ago.
It got extra armor, an AC and a generator so it can function full with the engine off
True official speed is nothing near 72 km/h, this is completely made up and holds true for precisely _none_ of the Leopard 2 variants.
The true top speed of earlier Leopard 2s are 68 km/h as supported by the Bundeswehr, and for the leopard 2A7V, shortened to 63 km/h for improved agility (61 km/h seems to be a complete fabrication however.).
The most modern leopard currently is indeed the Leopard 2A8, the A7V is still quite modern, but there are even more modern A7 variants such as the A7HU. But as of 2023, the A8 which is being purchased by Germany, Norway, and now Italy is the most modern
yea, but 2A7V is the most modern in-service Leopard tho since 2A8 is not actually in service, we still have to even see an actual pic of it because everything you search is a 2A7A1 with Trophy
@@evo3s75Depends what you count as in service.
There are already 18 ordered, with plans for another few hundred. Therefore, you could argue it’s in service.
@@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoulwrong. When we talk about a vehicle, tank or aircraft, "in service", it means the vehicles are already built and taken to their units. The 2A8 is ordered but not in service. They are not even built yet
Pretty sure the 2A8 is ordered but not in service yet. The most modern one in service is the Leo 2A7V
there are also earlier A6 variants with the extra hull composite, so the lineup can still be filled
I love how this thing stomps, yet German mains still complain about it. They may aswell just open up and admit they want to be completely unkillable and to just run through the enemy team every game.
They are running through everyone right now
@@a.j.gallegos2191especially when it’s ussr + Germany matched up against the United States
With this addition I have been very happy, finally the front armor plate, but most importantly, a leopard that does have great firepower and good thermals, especially thermals
Top Tier for Germany is good again, finally I think we have the best leopard in the game again!
Now they just need to fix the abrams' armor
the SEP v2 should have M829A2 as stock and M829A3 as top.
The SEP has the same, just replace A2 with A1 and A3 with A2 (A1 stock, A2 top).
the M1A2 should have A1 stock as well, and A2 top.
but no all 3 (they were designed 2007, 1999, and 1993 respectively) get M829 as their stock round, which was from 1983 and retired in like the mid 90s.
also the dozens of missing things the Abrams has, like the spall liner, DU armor, anti-tandem ERA, etc.
@@magnum6763 Abrams doesnt need a new round which its too powerful and more than 700mm pen.
@@magnum6763 well, that's sadly the point of a stock round, so the upgrade has significant enough reason to be researched.
going from nearly 500 to 630mm of pen is a pretty big jump, and giving A2 as stock would imply also giving the better rounds to other nations, which at the end of the day, would be aiming at the exact same spots.
DM53 as tier 1 and DM73 as tier 4 for germany, 3BM59 as tier 4 for russia, sweden doesn't get anything until the STRV 123a, neither the other nations realistically unless gaijin goes for the route of "this cannon can use this round cuz its NATO".
Not saying the M1s shouldn't get M829A3, but adding M829A2 as tier 1 is just not going to happen without messing the entire grind ecosystem of the game.
@@ishiddddd4783have you ever look at the ariete amv and merkava 4s? becuz all of them gets cl3143 round as stock sabot
Why do german leos only got spallliners on turret not on hull when Strv122s all got in on hull as well wtf gaijin
I think Gaijin is scared that Germany will become too powerful at top tier so instead they make Russia and Sweden too powerful it’s very annoying
@@Collat3ralD4mage no not you blaming Russia for Germany not getting hull spall liners. EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THE 2A5 HAS ONLY SPALL LINERS ON THE TURRET
that was a strange add
2a7v but they didn’t add the armor or the dm63 😭
Well,though 2a7v got nerfed for some reason, it still got a good protect at upper plate that can stop everything even 829a2 and dm53 for most of the time,but for a trade off you have best gun handling and best thermal and best penetration in the game. one more thing is that everybody forget about the missing protection of PSO's upper plate
Rejoicing in Swedish mainery, all top tier STRV and 9040C got the spall liner 😂
As someone who prefer armor over speed and a leopard fan this tank is almost perfect for me, good armor(would be great when gajin finally fix its armor), great thermal, good gun, the mobility is okay vs 2a5/6 unless in a straight road racing them and still better than pso, the addon armor and spall liner really a live saver
The armor values are wrong, the tank has a new transmission to gain more torck, the tank fires DM73 with 20% more penetration than DM53. GJ spit in the face of German mains.
M1A2 SEP 💀
Time to leak some classified doc
Prove it.
@@UAGhostrider can you read german, go look on the webpage of KMW or for the transmission and speed look on the webpage of the Bundeswehr.
If you struggle with 650mm pen you need to go to a doctor
Gaijin and implementing proper transmissions is like expecting a baby to do calculus, it will never happen any time soon
So basically vehicles with different types of transmissions other than regular manuals or automatics, like the Type-10s CVT, tend to suffer mobility for no real reason even though the main selling point for vehicles with much better transmissions and engines is normally the mobility they offer at the cost of other things like armor
I feel bad for Germany tbh when they finally get a new shiny leo2 they go and give Sweden a better one in the form of the Strv 122b+ and to top it all off they also gave every strv 122 a spall liner… as well as both 9040cs having spall liners… Sweden is a cracked line up im not gonna lie man
I've never watched an unedited gameplay video from start to finish before. Your videos are fun
This was kinda a breath of fresh air seeing you play with someone. Fun vid
Load into top tier
See Germany and Sweden on enemy team
Hover mouse over "return to hangar"
Those are both gen 3 thermals and theres spall liner for entire turret, just hard to light it up with mouse but its clearly visible
So nice to finally have this in the game, looks hella stylish as well, its top speed me caught me off guard when I first saw it but it's better in other stuff so that makes up for it.
Funny thing is the a5 a6 and pso do have spall liners but only on the left and right side of the turret and the roof for some reason not sure if thats a bug or not .
Not sure if you can trust the protection analysis but the Leo 2A7V turret armor is weaker enough that if you wiggle the turret, you have a higher chance to get breeched cause the turret armor weakspot is like 25% bigger. Why the hell did Gaijin nerf the Leopard 2A7V armor?
0:20 the most modern Leopard is the 2A8
"Can i one tap a T-80 for once?" says the same man who one tapped 3 T-80s at least in this video XD
i want to see all those who said adding the leo 2A7V not gonna benefits Germany!!!, just remember that those guys who call themselves experts
now im gonna enjoy the Leo 2A7 and T-90M
JUSTIN!! I LOVE WHEN YOU PLAY WITH FRIENDS!! gives your videos a special charm :) like hanging out with some buddies while they play games.
both the 2A5 and the 2A6 have spall liner in the turret, 2A7V does too
You should try the ifv's that have lose atgm on top the turret you can shoot them from the atgm's sight i have been having a blast whit my warrior shoting over stuff
this leo also recieve 100mm of composite armor on the side of the hull:) i really like this leo and i'm close to unlock it (it's fake i'm in 9.3) thanks for this great vid justin (and yeddi btw)!
To explain the lower top speed, it has a transmission made to have shorter gears, which hurts the top speed but is supposed to make it more reactive, didn't feel that yet but I'm so spaded so can't say
and in a same time, strv122b+ have gen1 thermal, nice...
The newest Leopard is now the 2A8
I want the red/white/blue smoke trails so damn bad. I wasn't playing WT yet when those came out
Justin how do you turn your camera without turning the turret?
It has spall liner on the turret too you just can click it to see it
Plus the canon is supposed to be better than the one on the 2a6 since its a L/55A1
2A7V heavier than the 2A6 but somehow less armored in game
All the chally 2s have spall liners
yay! this rejoices my german main heart! but it wasn't what I expected.
That ammo resupply bug is like hacking 😂
that's why me and my friends spammed CAS with SU 27
Even tho its mobility and armor still underperforming the thing is a beats,glad Smin aknowledged that it was underperforming according to the sent sources now we have to wait... probably years but yeah...
This is your German teammate, you are always fighting alone every time
they really need to give it its d tech armor
Aw my game with you at the castle isn't feature here, sad. You did great in that game
Granted the spaliner isn’t as broken as the T90M
Should have better armor protection and more penetrating apfsds and smoke launchers on face if the turret but im glad it’s in the game at last
the 2A6, 2A5, and PSO all have spall liners on the turret
Which Tank is better Leo 2A7V or Strv 122b+?
I wonder what will be with planes as the game is getting close to stealth planes will there be steath in war thunder
Can you please make a how to be good at ground forces top tier guide, and to always have situational awareness please?
how do you do that yellow mark instead of spotting
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It does have a a spall liner on the turret
That was a fun match on Japan, fun playing against u guys!
T80 BVM is impossible to one tap. Not sure why.. Secret Spall Liner?
luv your vids justin btw they fixed the challengers brakes they now turn a lot better i DEMAND a revisit thanks a lot for the content!!!
All leopards have spall liners in the turrets (2A5+), full coverage.
you can tell me anything but people doing a bombing run in helis are something else
The most modern Leopard currently is the 2A7A1, which is just the A7V with added APS Trophy
The leopard 2A7+ and leopard 2A8/2A8NOR are more modern and exist
@@velqtnone of them is in service. The PSO is also a variant of the A7 by the way. The A7A1 enters service in 2024/25 and is currently being tested to operational readiness
@@Switty_Tister A7+ isn't the PSO. The 2A8(NOR) have both been ordered and are entering service since this year through 2025
@@Switty_Tister 2A7A1 is:
1. A made up name by the community
2. A tech demonstrator never to enter service
3. Not the most modern Leopard, the 2A8 holding that tag.
@@velqt And no, 2A7+ is neither more modern, nor superior to the 2A7V.
I absolutely dont understand how the new 122 is a ton lighter than this thing. It has the same added armour on the front, and it has a ton more on the hull and turret side. Why does it have better mobility with all that is a mystery to me.
it is not the same
@@lordcurre39 whats not the same? The front armour? No, its not, it should in fact be a lot better, because its newer composits, but for the sake of the argument, its not a big difference. Even if it was slightly heavier, it cant outweigh the added side and roof armour
@@pepiksunkaflek6513 leo 2a7 has a bigger gun and breech that makes it heavier also diffrent gearbox and ammo
The difficulty of finding reliable information on one-off swedish tech demonstrators is one. It does not make sense no, but it's not the most important factor after all
I would never ever have that reaction speed
Still waiting for Challenger 3 video lol
Monday :D
It's weird how gun barrels go through buildings. It looks very glitchy.
Strv 122 is still the best Leopard 2 version.
what was that at 12:35 did shoot 2 darts or is this bug ?
My dude call a Is-2
a kv2 😂
I love the A7V. It takes an already strong tank with the A6 and just makes it stronger in every way. No need to fear any T-90Ms or BVMs in this thing
Imagine if it had the DM63/A1 or the DM73
Problem is the 2 a7Vs armor is very weak in game and irl it should be the strongest frontal hull armored Leopard 2 out of all Leopard variants currently in existens.
@@Future183 it's weak compared to it's real counterpart, in-game it's immune to all rounds, so even nerfed, it aint weak
@@ishiddddd4783 no its not. Its hulls is more peneble then the strv122Bs
@@Future183 Yeah, that's what the very first part of my comment addressed.
And again, ingame it doesn't matter, DM53 cannot go through the upper hull, even if it's weaker, its still immune to all darts ingame
Ive almost got the leo pso, should I replace my 2a5 or 2a6 or just wait till I get the 2a7v?
2a5 is almost fully spaded and 2a6 is about half
Not the most modern version yet. There still is the 2A7A1 with a Trophy APS :)
And 2a7v+
@@Optimusprime56241 Not a real tank, 2A8 exists however
I mean so does your T90M The only top their that isnt insanely strong off its base is the SEP no?
bruh, A5 and A6 too have spall liners
iirc the PSO also got a spall liner!
Mine protection in WT ? Maybe thats an easter egg of some sort? What the hell I seen not one spall liner yesterday besides the one on the T-90M when did they throw that on other tanks? I must have over looked that one on the Leopard but 100% i specifically went and looked and it wasn't on the new Leopard when I looked. Also just looked and people were saying the Abrams was not showing a spall liner on the forums. But the Abrams have depleted uranium liners so hopefully when I log in today and look they are on the vehicles😉
SEP3 also didn't get Spall liner...
Dont forget the Leo 2A8 will come
I got the 122B+ yesterday, I prefer the PLSS over it.
W video u guys are hilarious LOL need more plz thx
the vertical elevation is just a fucking joke... HOW CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE when nearly every other tank has 5-10 seconds to lower and raise the barrel....
Wouldve been funny if the tank were actually blue
the fact that the 122b+ doesn't get gen 2 thermals is stupid
I feel so bad for American top tier players. The Abrams is so broken; armor values are completely wrong, no spall liners and no DU shell or inserts.
It's almost as if Putin is whispering into Gaijin's ear to make American tech look weak...
man sepv2 was such a disappointment
nothing changed atleast give it a new shell
leopard and abrams got the same armor as their older brothers…..
which is better in the game - Leopard2a7 or Challenger3?
The 2A7V is the most modern Leopard yes but it is nerfed in game. It should have roughly the same protection on the front plate as on the turret.
Only most modern leopard in game. The Leopard 2A8 is the most modern leopard, having Trophy APS and (I think) more armor.
I don't think it has entered service yet.@@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul
Where is the Anti-Thermal paint for the tank??? ... just kidding but imagine that the Leopard got that cause and the T-90M got the only spall liner on a tank in the game.
Hello, I have a question, which nation can you recommend, Sweden or Germany?
Best MBT in War Thunder right now 👌
While this is a very good tank, it's also highly underperforming in terms of armor at the same time.
The turret is much worse than the 2A6 (for no reason other than Gaijin), has armor holes and the hull is missing some 150mm KE.