Mike stated, that they would write about emotions and him and Chester would sometimes write their lyrics from their own perspective, bringing in multiple perspectives circling around that one subject.
Fun fact one step closer was actually inspired by Don Gilmore. He disapproved of their lyrics and he would tell the band to write them over and over again which upset Chester. Chester was so mad that he wanted to punch him in the face.
5:59 It was the other way around. They didn't incorporate hip hop elements into the typical metal sounds. They incorporated the typical metal sounds into their hip hop. That is why there was nothing else like them. The reason they sounded so unique was because they WEREN'T a nu metal band, or indeed a metal band or rock band of any kind. They were an alternative hip hop group. They fused rock and metal sounds into it, but the foundational structure and the production style were hip hop. But since rap rock and nu metal were popular at the time, the label that signed them tried to rebrand them as part of that scene. But not only was that not their sound, but they literally wrote a diss track about that kind of music, trashing it for having no hip hop credibility.
@@writemetalmusic It's called "Step Up", released on the EP they produced when they were still called Hybrid Theory. The title and its use in the chorus are a reference to a scratch sample used in "Step in the Arena" by Gang Starr, and later in Tupac's "I Get Around". The track is a diss of the entire rap rock genre, but seemingly of Limp Bizkit in particular. DJ Lethal certainly thought so, and trash talked Mike for years over it. LP hated that genre, but somehow Warner Records made them the face of that genre.
Linkin Park were originally Xero, part of an alternative hip hop collective called Junkyard Scientific, which also included Styles of Beyond. You can hear Junkyard Scientific shouted out in Xero tracks like "Fuse", and SOB tracks like "Dangerous Minds". They featured several times on a hip hop compilation series called Rapology, and you can find those tracks on UA-cam. One even features a very similar tone and rap cadence as what would later make Eminem famous. While rap rock bands would write a rock song and then rap and maybe scratch over it, all of LP's early music started with the beat, and everything else was built on top of that, with the rock instruments added over the beat to compliment it, and the vocals and lyrics written last. Produce the track, lay the vocal. Textbook hip hop. For an example, listen to a demo of theirs called "Sad", and compare it to the final song that track became, "By Myself". But Warner Records went to great lengths to try to mix the beats down and the guitars up, to try to bury the hip hop sounds, so they could sell LP to rock listeners. I've made several videos on my channel just playing with the multitracks of LP songs to show people the amount of hip hop artistry that was hidden under those guitars.
@@milotrix44 LP were what got me into hip hop and electronica. Unfortunately most of those sounds that LP used tend to fly completely over the heads of people who primarily listen to rock, because to them music is about the guitar, bass, and drum kit, and everything else is just backing.
This is a really great video and deserves way more views I was actually so surprised at how low it was when I looked about 3 minutes into the video because it's so hogh quality and well written
One thing with Linkin Park is they wrote like a hip hop/electronica group (atleast on their ealrier records). The oppostie approach to most rock bands, where its based around the guitar riff and drums. The songs are are often built around a digital sound, a loop or a sample sequence. Complete contrast to the grunge bands of a generation before, or even their contemporaries, where digital samples were an after thought used in the studio like a bit of salt and pepper. Chord progressions, riffs and drum beats are written like loops, wirh repetative "phrases". Something done well before your modern DAW quantisation focused music production styles. E.g. The drumming style of Rob isnt consistent with your typical hard rock/metal band. Listen to In The End or From The Inside, where the drums follow a repeative sequence, that is full of groove, but follow a very precise and repeating pattern. The drums are also seemleasly blended with "toppers" and beat loops, to give a very structured digital sound, and reproduced live. This way of writing and producing is HEAVILY mimicked by modern metal bands today. Bring Me the Horizon, Northlane, modern metalcore scenes all are heavily influenced by Linkin Park. They are far more influential that people realise.
Great video man! I listen to Linkin Park for a very long time and what you're explaining resonates very much with my experience with Linkin Parks music. You explain it very well.
@@gnomueaux doesn't feel like a terrible argument to me. As far as I'm aware, every genre that has metal in the genre name belongs somewhere under the umbrella of metal. But also, 'Koala' is the full title.
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Mike stated, that they would write about emotions and him and Chester would sometimes write their lyrics from their own perspective, bringing in multiple perspectives circling around that one subject.
Fun fact one step closer was actually inspired by Don Gilmore. He disapproved of their lyrics and he would tell the band to write them over and over again which upset Chester. Chester was so mad that he wanted to punch him in the face.
I can’t wait to see linkin park next week, I absolutely love their music a lot and I mean a lot. Their writing is just so good.
5:59 It was the other way around. They didn't incorporate hip hop elements into the typical metal sounds. They incorporated the typical metal sounds into their hip hop. That is why there was nothing else like them.
The reason they sounded so unique was because they WEREN'T a nu metal band, or indeed a metal band or rock band of any kind. They were an alternative hip hop group. They fused rock and metal sounds into it, but the foundational structure and the production style were hip hop. But since rap rock and nu metal were popular at the time, the label that signed them tried to rebrand them as part of that scene. But not only was that not their sound, but they literally wrote a diss track about that kind of music, trashing it for having no hip hop credibility.
This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
What's the diss track? I'm curious to hear it.
@@writemetalmusic It's called "Step Up", released on the EP they produced when they were still called Hybrid Theory. The title and its use in the chorus are a reference to a scratch sample used in "Step in the Arena" by Gang Starr, and later in Tupac's "I Get Around".
The track is a diss of the entire rap rock genre, but seemingly of Limp Bizkit in particular. DJ Lethal certainly thought so, and trash talked Mike for years over it. LP hated that genre, but somehow Warner Records made them the face of that genre.
Linkin Park were originally Xero, part of an alternative hip hop collective called Junkyard Scientific, which also included Styles of Beyond. You can hear Junkyard Scientific shouted out in Xero tracks like "Fuse", and SOB tracks like "Dangerous Minds". They featured several times on a hip hop compilation series called Rapology, and you can find those tracks on UA-cam. One even features a very similar tone and rap cadence as what would later make Eminem famous.
While rap rock bands would write a rock song and then rap and maybe scratch over it, all of LP's early music started with the beat, and everything else was built on top of that, with the rock instruments added over the beat to compliment it, and the vocals and lyrics written last. Produce the track, lay the vocal. Textbook hip hop. For an example, listen to a demo of theirs called "Sad", and compare it to the final song that track became, "By Myself".
But Warner Records went to great lengths to try to mix the beats down and the guitars up, to try to bury the hip hop sounds, so they could sell LP to rock listeners. I've made several videos on my channel just playing with the multitracks of LP songs to show people the amount of hip hop artistry that was hidden under those guitars.
@@PenneySounds Finally, someone who is an educated superfan. Kudos, my guuuuyyyy
@@milotrix44 LP were what got me into hip hop and electronica. Unfortunately most of those sounds that LP used tend to fly completely over the heads of people who primarily listen to rock, because to them music is about the guitar, bass, and drum kit, and everything else is just backing.
This is a really great video and deserves way more views I was actually so surprised at how low it was when I looked about 3 minutes into the video because it's so hogh quality and well written
@@Falpler appreciate the comment, I'm glad you enjoyed it :))
One thing with Linkin Park is they wrote like a hip hop/electronica group (atleast on their ealrier records). The oppostie approach to most rock bands, where its based around the guitar riff and drums. The songs are are often built around a digital sound, a loop or a sample sequence. Complete contrast to the grunge bands of a generation before, or even their contemporaries, where digital samples were an after thought used in the studio like a bit of salt and pepper.
Chord progressions, riffs and drum beats are written like loops, wirh repetative "phrases". Something done well before your modern DAW quantisation focused music production styles.
E.g. The drumming style of Rob isnt consistent with your typical hard rock/metal band. Listen to In The End or From The Inside, where the drums follow a repeative sequence, that is full of groove, but follow a very precise and repeating pattern. The drums are also seemleasly blended with "toppers" and beat loops, to give a very structured digital sound, and reproduced live.
This way of writing and producing is HEAVILY mimicked by modern metal bands today. Bring Me the Horizon, Northlane, modern metalcore scenes all are heavily influenced by Linkin Park. They are far more influential that people realise.
Great analysis
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Really well constructed video, Linkin Park is the best!
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Great video man! I listen to Linkin Park for a very long time and what you're explaining resonates very much with my experience with Linkin Parks music. You explain it very well.
when I spend around 30 minutes around a 12 minutes video, that's because it has valuable content
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Wow! Great video! You should do one about Avenged Sevenfold! Their ritting skills are crazy and full of emotions!
@@Super95Tomi great idea!! I love a7x!
But did they break those habits?
@@JediJared-bs1wt great question, yes. Every band I've ever heard has an established sound and then breaks all their rules every now and again.
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@@yannickgaensicke509 man, that initial comment went straight over my head. Now i feel silly
0:47 "metal is based in the name"
this is a terrible argument. Are koala bears bears because its in the title? no.
@@gnomueaux doesn't feel like a terrible argument to me. As far as I'm aware, every genre that has metal in the genre name belongs somewhere under the umbrella of metal.
But also, 'Koala' is the full title.
@@writemetalmusic grindcore and crust punk have more to do with metal than nu metal but they dont have metal in the title.