Comparing Chester's & Emily's SCREAMING Techniques...
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I don't think people understand how much Mike influenced Chester's vocal style. I think everyone is going to be surprised at how Emily's voice evolves after working with Mike more.
Agreed! Mike is a MASTER producer and amplifier of talent!
There are good BTS vids of Mike and Chester going back and forth on vocal takes and different vocal approaches. Mike's a decent singer but he's one heck of a producer.
@@fallinginthed33p exactly. Mike would really guide him on placements and where to push and pull back on the harsh vocals. You can hear how much more dynamic Chester is from Grey Daze to the Hybrid Theory album. He was definitely talented l, but Mike was really able to help him tighten up everything and become the force he was.
@@fallinginthed33p can you send link ?
I heard They’ve been working together for like 4 years
You should really watch her Kia Forum performance. She doesn't have any of the problems of the livestream. She annihilates every song, especially Keys to the Kingdom toward the end. At the recent NYC show she also did a crazy improvised 8 second scream during the outro of Faint that sounded so effortless and gnarly. She definitely had nerves during the livestream, but those are all gone. Frankly, even Mike sounded worse during the livestream compared to how well he killed it at the last two shows.
Yes and it shows her chest voice low growl as well.
I was fortunate enough to see her at New York and it was incredible seeing her improvement since the livestream. What’s a show.
i reckon there was a bunch of nerves involved during that first performance, as there were a lot of unknown or new factors.
She actually had 😂
I just looked up that Faint improvised scream, amazing, thanks for sharing
I liked the analysis of Kurt Cobain into here. She definitely feels more Grunge rock star, she acts that way on stage too
facts
and nothing wrong with that
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m her voice reminds me of New Years Day!
I first heard her voice in her cover of Heart Shaped Box and I loved it, almost more than the original. She is definitely a grunge singer more than a metal one, but she does a great job anyways.
Her distortion definitely is a lot looser sounding and has a lot more note to it. She's been leaning on it more for the older songs for the concerts than she did at the livestream. It has a pretty dynamic onset and exit, so it gives the harsh vocals a lot more of an unhinged, chaotic feeling.
Layne Staley, in a way. There's a chaotic, almost demonic sound to his screams.
Emily definitely never screamed as much on Dead Sara stuff compared to the LP tracks so curious how she will progress as time goes by. Hopefully she takes care of her voice, Chester's weakened over the years because of all the screaming sadly.
That One Steo Closer performance from Chester is from 2014, 3 years before his death. His screams were still amazing there
@@tdvcyt2534 Yes he still sounded amazing of course. Just not as strong as early 2000s is what I'm saying.
@@SaberOW Dont think his screaming weakened, but his stamina did. When he went full out he could scream like 2003 and in Lima Peru 2017 live he sounded like 2012, but I think because of age his voice couldn't recover as fast anymore which is probably why he sounded kind of hoarse.
The bridge of From The Inside Live at Southside Festival 2017 shows off that he could still scream insaely well. His screams there sound better than milton keynes imo
@@eliteiel9747 Yeah that could be the case
Finally in fond someone competent to talk about those things... Bravos.
Finally someone addressed that they just have different style and approach. I don't think Emily is bad but she just have different note and approach.
She probably rocks the new songs that was made for her. New single already pretty damn catchy and great.
Range + scream = Mind Blown
Chester did a lot of that effortlessly. And he switched between singing and screaming so efficiently we wouldn't even notice.
I'm not a singer, not musically gifted or even understand half the stuff like techniques etc you go on about in these videos, but I love these videos and your channel. Lots of love to you my friend.
I concur, even though I understand even less. Maybe a fifth to a quarter 😂😂😂
Haha 😂😂😂 it's so funny when you hear your impressions and then the voice starts to wobble... I can't help but break out into laughter 😁🤣
When you were going over that one section, the one with "break" being lower, and talking about it being more of a "gagging" typr sensation and coming from up there, that helped me actually hit the lower and more gutteral sounding scream I've been trying to hit for YEARS now 😀. I've never heard it described that way before (if you did in previous videos, then i guess it just didn't stick then lol 😅) and it CLICKED!! Thanks Chris 😁🤘
maybe i am wrong but it seems that female vocalists often push less and choose the "safest" approach and therefore are less prone to losing their voice. emily sounds like shes holding back and i think it is a good thing. she is 38 years old and now has to perform all this hard songs for two hours which was very hard for chester himself.
it is funny to me when i see some comments about her not hitting 100% of the notes. That setlist is nearly impossible to perform perfect.
nice video btw!
Check out Lauren Babic. I wouldn’t say she pushes less. She’s pretty brutal, but she is safe, healthy and varied with her approach!
I have to say, as a female screamer I feel like it's the opposite. I feel like we have to push more because we sound thinner naturally and we usually try to compensate. That and the fact that we have less lung capacity makes it necessary to do so. I think it sounds more relaxed just cause there's less low overtones to it generally, but Emily clearly makes a lot of effort.
I wouldn't say holding back. I would say she found what was comfortable for her and what works for her voice. Then again, the music was not written for her, so she might not feel as passionate about it as Chester was, because he felt it. She's doing the best she can with it, but not trying to be Chester. She may take a different approach when it comes to her own music and that will be found out when the album comes.
It's like Chester says in THIS video! We can all learn to "relax" into our voices when screaming. We can push too... A balance is the right approach, and we all have to experiment to find our own balances.
Chester switched up a lot of his techniques over time. Especially on the "shut up" part of One step closer. On Live in Texas he does closer to what it is on the album. He started throwing in the deeper stuff later on. I wonder if it was to give his voice a little bit of a rest during songs like that. He pretty much quit doing Crawling as the original version, and they started doing that piano version.
This voice breakdown is ridiculously amazing plus doing sample!?🐐
I kinda like your own personal scream the most out of either of theres. Ive heard it a few times in videos and i dig it.
This was funny, thank you for the analysis, enjoyed this one :)
Not a vocal expert, but I think Emotion adds spice to the screams, look at how Chester's emotion when singing the songs and how he sweats heavily on stage when he's all out, and switching from calm to scream is so smooth while doing 8+ songs live is fucking amazing. damn
Nah bro. Watch Saliva's lives with Bobby Amaru. He often got poker face but he sings and screams harder than Chester
there is no 1:1 replacement to chester's genius because of how good he was and years of experience he got in scream singing. emily was picked because she does things different and the band believed that she got what it takes out of all the candidates. im willing to give her a chance.
Such an excellent analysis!
Thank you for all the work and keep going please
I felt everything you said
If the controversy blows over which I think it will with time then it’s a good move for future LP fans and all. There will always be room in the past for what they have done and I think the only issue is her background and not her talent or technique for taking over Chester’s place.
There is no controversy, just lazy internet detectives.
Awesome video Chris, you're getting so damn good at hearing these differences in sound and biological processes that make them happen. A real joy to listen!
Everytime I hear Emily, I become a bigger fan of her. I might just start listening to some of her old music. Thanks Chris.
7:29 "This is also Chesty"😂
Start with her Drum DIves. :D (Nothing to hear there tho :D )
@@zdenekdolezal9646 Ah that's why Rob left
Great idea for a video. I hope this gets a billion views!
This was fascinating, love how you delved into this at a level that makes educated, data driven sense vs emotional comparison.
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During heavy choruses (like Meteora songs) Chester not just flat-out screamed but used a very colorful blend of singing and screaming, being in control of it all the time. Emily's screams seem more like a Kurt Cobain-esque desperate flat out throat ripping, which sadly doesn't sound healthy to me at all. I like that she's passionate about it though!!
”This is her approach to screaming”. Yes, sometimes when it might sound like her voice ‘cracks’ live, that’s basically what she does on the studio albums as well. (Probably some nerves at the first show though)
I still think it sounds great, and it makes her voice feel more ‘real’ and human. To me, it’s part of her unique style.
I love the last 2 minutes of this song for example even if I wouldnt call the screaming ”perfect”: ua-cam.com/video/BHQ9mGC3rc0/v-deo.htmlsi=RATjenMxkAVHZdma
Now that you have done a screaming analysis, would be interesting if you review Keys to the Kingdom. Both Emily live and Chester on the album since they never did it live.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Appreciate you listening to Weatherman! I loved this way too much! All the knowledge I've gained from watching your videos! Now I understand and can recognize those things live now! It was amazing seeing her live, and being able to pinpoint the techniques! I'll never appreciate your explanations enough! You're an amazing person and I'm always looking forward to your breakdowns! Thank you again!
Gotta love em' all!
Love emily Armstrong ❤she's great and also i love you're analysis
That first low roam from Chester. God, I’ve listened to this song so many times, today is the first time I actually consciously registering it.
I recommend you check out the Faint's performance at the concert in Brooklyn.
Great breakdown of the difference and Andy is awesome… just how relax he look doing it
You Cannot Compare Chester Bennington With Anyone!!!!!
Just looking at how their screaming techniques vary… for educational purposes.
grow up! you even missed the point of the comparison in this vid.
I´m sorry for my brutal honesty but IT MAKES ME ANGRY that people think the voice cracks are "bad, not on purpose, signs of bad singer"
GO LISTEN TO KURT COBAIN´s MTV UNPLUGGED! Dude was cracking on every song. About a Girl (Easy Frienddddd), Come as You are (as An oooold), Where did you sleep last night (I would shiveeeeeeuuoooouooooo), Lake of Fire (Julyyyyyyyy), etc etc etc.
I always found that BEAUTIFUL and you know what? It also means Kurt used a PROPER fry singing technique! Means the singer is singing CLEAN NOTES underneath all these filters/layers. A bad technique singer will just pull the notes from chest like Dave Grohl does ("I´ve got another confession to maaake") and that´s NOT HEALTHY, doesn´t have vibrato or dynamics, it doesn´t sound as good live too.
So please stop judging Emily cracks, they are intentional and they are beautiful!
100% YESS!!!
@@chrisliepe omg the best vocal teacher in the world agrees with me, that made my day
couldn't agree more!
Fantastic video 🤩 Supper helpful hearing a comparison of the different techniques to produce different sounds and having you break them down and recreate them. I greatly respect that you bring your teaching philosophy of try everything judge nothing into this comparison. There is no judgment just careful observation and helpful instruction. 🙌🌟🙏
Splendid analysis again, Chris! Learning a lot once more! I always felt like Kurt's voice lets out more air when he screams or sings raspy. It sounds not just looser but also more breathy to me, which gives it this broken up sound. Emily's technique seems quite similiar!
Chester had such a precisce control over the amount of grit and distortion he could jump in and out of with his voice it at different hues and colors, completley confusing adept listners as to where his transitions lied, And the distortion itself was always clean and harmonically produced many pleasing edgy overtones. and often times sounded like a self-harmonizing vocal effect. The height of Chesters vocal prowess lied between 2004-2008. Between those years, especially 2007 he was an absolute war machine, afterwards Chester lost the very middleground of an aggressive clean classic rock sound. It is pretty obvious in more middle ground sections where he would masterfully execute this like faint or bleed it out, he no longer had the ability to blend those sounds as well and opted to either not distort, or go at a full distortion that sounded a lot throatier and sizzly. I honestly believe that after The Hunting Party Chester intutivley knew this and helped push for the more clean sounds of One More Light. I feel like this is where Emily is at. She has an incredible voice, but she either goes at an overly distorted mode or a sound that is pure and clean with little hues in between and without much of the carefully laced dynamics and nuance Chester at his prime sang with. And sadly the distortion itself is plagued with constriction and very dirty overtones that sound clenched instead of freed. Its honestly impressive she can do that as much as she has, but its obvious by the amount of shakiness and cracks through some songs that a fully scheduled tour would annihlate her. I still like her, and even though some LP songs could use some work, Emptiness Machine sounds amazing with Emily clearly being who she is vocally without any pressure
I used to be a Marine Corps drill instructor and so wish I could have learned some of these lessons back then. A lot of folks could have saved their voice by practicing some of these methods. Had to learn on the fly and by then most people vocal chords are trashed.
Chris, full videos from the LA and NYC shows are now online. They do almost 30 songs and you can really hear her range and she’s also more comfortable. For crazy deep screams listen to Keys to the Kingdom. And for the complete opposite, her gentle tones, listen to Lost and Friendly Fire. Also the Dead Sara acoustic Guitar Center performance.
16:31
In Emily's live performance, her version of Papercut came almost toe-to-toe with Chester's version for me because she oddly sounded more relaxed to me. Now i realise it's because of the similar technique of scream she used which allowed her to actually be a little more relaxed and show off a bit of her showmanship as well
Thanks, I knew something felt inconsistent about Emily's screams, but I couldn't understand what she was doing to cause it.
Interesting find there at the end, that as you said: 'we know the technique is there we just havent heard it as much from Emily yet'. Its crazy to me how skilled she is and I love the sound of her voice too, who knows if she wont lean more into that on the album or on live shows in maybe a year or so, but I think shes only gonna get better from here on. Also her live performance from the Kia forum is sound wise crazy close to perfection I enjoy it a lot, sounds way better than the very first performance. would love if you would find something interesting in there to make another interesting video about lol
0:20 you needed to say this, and without this warning, and by just looking at the title, i was about to say your missing the most important fact about the professional replacement of Chester....(note that i said professional replacement, and not emotional, or expressive replacement of Chester.)
Really insightful! Thank you Chris ^-^
If you compare the studio screaming from One Step Closer to Emily's scream, it's a bit closer, but his *live* screams and studio meteora+ seem to be a lot more fleshed out. It seems like Chesters screaming maybe wasn't as developed when he recorded Hybrid Theory. It would be cool if Emily can flesh out her scream similarly over time.
No doubt this vid is a superb comparative analysis. But I also gotta say, this guy needs to collab with Dr. Mike about chest compressions.
It doesn't seem like she is using a proper fry scream, which is what you show and what Cheater does. Her "scream" seems unsafe for me, it sounds like she is just pushing more air into her regular gritty singing so it sounds more like a scream, it doesn't sound that she is getting it from a relaxed head voice. That's a lot more air pushed than what fry scream requires. She will won't be able to hold anywhere close on let's say given up and she will sound thin, cause more air = squeal and not fat scream.
Chester could do it all. Fkn legendary
I didn't think I needed this because I honestly don't care about the news since I only listen to Linkin Park's old/early albums anyway. But it's nice to learn about this.
Interesting breakdown.
In the concert after the livestream, she actually sounded a good bit better and that concert was twice as long. Listen to more recent Dead Sara stuff. She has more control of her screaming/ scream singing there but I agree with you. She has a much looser and "wilder" approach than Chester said. I think she's an incredible singer but I also think she'll learn more control and diverse textures with her screams/scream singing. Chester had amazing technique and I'm confident that Emily will learn healthier technique the more she works with Mike and the band. From a purely technical standpoint, I think Chester had better technique than Emily does with the scream singing for sure. Emily's voice is amazing and she'll only get better from here on out so I'm looking forward to hearing her voice as she gets multiple Linkin Park albums under her belt. I'm here for Emily's evolution :) Chris, I f*cking LOVE your vocal breakdowns and your whole vibe, man. Been following you for a while now. Oh, and you have a ridiculously amazing voice!
Her voice is so raw, Mike Shinoda must have been steering Chester into the sound that LP should have.
I see Chris upload video, I click like button
I think she could not scream as it needed. She’s screaming on vocal cords , instead of false cords . And as she sounds hurting cuz she’s damaging her voice as fuck.
Emily's approach in "crawling" is amazing. Especially the descending note lines 🥰
yea I almost like her Crawling more than Chesters even if some LP fans might kill me for that lol
No fucking way
7:57 Also, peep how massive of a pitch jump that was. He went from super high to super low. You almost never see singers do that even when death metal screaming is their bread and butter.
Hey Chris! I love your work so much! I found your channel as a Ren fan!
Please please please do a review of LP - Lost on You (live)
That song has over a BILLION and a half views. It's a seriously life changing song!
They (LP laura pergolizzi, they/them) have written songs for Rhianna, Christina Aguilera, Céline and more.
Also, LP does a live version of their song "One That You Love" (live on a rooftop in france i believe) which contains one single 15 second note that I would seriously pack up and dedicate my life to if I could!! Lol
LP is another rabbit hole of awesomeness that I would say is similar to when I heard Ren for the first time. You won't be disappointed I promise!!!
Very cool video!
Great video!!!!!
I would love to see your vocal analysis for Spiritbox's new song, Soft Spine
... Hello from France (sorry about my bad english, and I am very old too, and a sub here lol) ... So okay how we say in France "tu coupes la patte d'une mouche an 4" , in english "you are cutting the leg of a flie in 4 " (you see what I mean ;) ) ...
So please the internet should let Emily breath a little more (I read + 100 reactions about the new song and the livestream, , a lot of SH@T to read, I know Chester this, Chester that , Mr Bennington is gone now for 7 years, you all have to turn a little bit slowly this page ... We are alive now in 2024 and after ... Hey this was a 2 hour first show, that's awesome long !!! I know all this is interresting, comparisons, Scienthologie (really US this crap) and what else ? The size of her "bra" perhaps , (lol) !!! She is doing better and better, the band too, see the 2 concerts these last days in LA and NY, awesome, always 2 hours !!!
LP was'nt even my "real" taste (I am an Extreme Black/Death/Doom/Sludge/Stoner Metal fan with dissonance if possible) , but I liked them, LP, in their time, I liked Chester, but I liked (more) Layne Staley, the greatest in my taste (he had A SCREAM, never a failure in his singing too), RIP both ...
So Emily is here now, singing, screaming ... I just hope it will go on a long time in the futur, long live Emily !!! And F..@K the haters !!!
You are doing an super work on your channel, go on !!!
Oh and yes Emily as a little bit the same scream that the singer of 30 Seconds to Mars, Jared Leto, I love him so much as an actor ...
Best of luck Emily 😊
Maybe she does it differently than Chester did and it sounds more painful to me. I think the way she does this live is not safe for her
Hoping she finds safer ways of scream singing
Do you think she just hasn't mastered or "found her zone" when it comes to screaming? or is that just her voice? (not saying it's bad.. just curious).
Great break down I think Emily's vocals will evolve with the band she definitely needs the right vocal coach if she doesn't have one to make sure she's protecting her voice using the proper techniques. If you listen to LP from the beginning Chester vocals was clean and not very thick but over time he grew so much worked his tail off to develop something very special and unique. Emily is at a solid starting point she sounds great now she's definitely got the goods things are only going to get better with hard work. Maybe you might want to reach out to them about being a personal vocal coach 👀👌 💯
Beautiful my friend!
i love the new version of linkin park but when i listen to emily singing the old hit songs like crawling or one step closer i feel like there's a lack of energy that special part which chester had. Chester was phenomenal and he is always irreplacable but im always down for the newer songs.
How come Andy wasn’t selected to sing for Linkin Park?
Did he get a tryout?
He seems qualified.
Hi Chris, belated Happy Birthday, your direct voice comparison between Chester and Emily is beautifully portrayed by you. A user here on UA-cam criticized Emily for not singing with the pain of Chester. I mean as I know that Chester was transferring his pain from his life on stage to the audience, he was screaming the pain out of himself. With Emily, the singing talent is also added to the singing technique. That’s why she can never imitate the song of Chester because she didn’t have the pain in her life
Hey! Not sure where to post this, but I would like to request a Silent Theory vocal analysis if you have time!
"The Cracks", "For What It's Worth", "Made Me This Way", "Sticks and Stones", "The Price". Take your pick :)
Good video
Listen to the scream from New York on Faith
Sometimes when she pushes her vocals hard, she sounds like Nelson from the Simpsons...
Fans are pissed Emily joined LP but imagine how upset they'd be if Jared Leto got the gig? 🤣
Has anyone taken Chris's course? I've been interested in it for a while and when you buy you can get an initual lesson with him but I'm wondering if its possible to get future lessons as well.
Hey! There IS an option to enroll with a private consult and yes, there are all sorts of opportunities for continued face-to-face interaction with me on an ongoing basis. Email info@mymusicalvoice.com if you have any other questions :) !
@@chrisliepe thanks! I'll reach out.
the lessons are great, been in several courses. It certainly inspired me to play around with my voice in many different ways and now I'm proud of the arsenal of different tones and sounds that I have found which are unique to my voice :D I feel like Chris's approach is great mindset wise, it's hilarious to do the weird noises and exercises and it yields great results (in my experience)
EDIT: Also I might add, he's a master at making me feel comfortable sounding bad, which is the first step to experimenting. Watching him be all silly and funny with it inspires me to do the same, which is DEFINITELY the most important thing in singing - to not judge yourself and your tone when you are trying out new things!
@@ikaros110 when you say several courses do you mean within his discover your voice course, or do you mean other ones?
You should really watch some videos of the concerts in LA Kia Forum and in Brookly. The livestream they did on the 5th was good but nothing compared to the concerts🔥 they did Given up and Keys of the Kingdom👌👌
Chester is an order of magnitude better
Man, one of my favorite metal singers of all time is Angela Gossow.
Linkin Park were just on Jimmy Fallon performing The Emptiness Machine, if you want a high quality live recording. Emily is stellar, and Mike’s great too these days.
She is more of punk/grunge style singer.
Hey Chris, first of all great video as always. I think it would be interesting to do the same comparison between their distorted singing. We know Chester’s sounded great but he almost completely dropped it around 2010, so I’m curious to know if you think Emily’s technique is healthier.
Great suggestion... I did talk about their distorted singing approach in this video a bit too... Basically both of these vocalists are using "sing screaming" primarily, so to discuss their screams is a partial analysis of their distorted singing as well. But you could definitely go more down that rabbit hole!
@@chrisliepe Yeah it’s basically an expansion of that part of the video. What makes me curious is the fact that he never seemed to have problems with the scream, but he clearly had problems with the distorted singing (i think Mike explicitly said that in an interview) so something has to be very different between the two (i think?)
Watch the LA 2 hour concert they did 'Keys To The Kingdom' first time live debut never performed.
I kinda hear Oliver Sykes type of scream from Sempiternal - That's The Spirit era from Emily
I like Emily a lot, but she has to work on her scream a bit, when you look at people like Courtney from Spiritbox or Melissa from Ad Infinitum, they have some crazy nice technique and it sounds powerful. I know she'll work for it, she is an amazing singer and I believe she wants to improve every aspect of her voice!
sir, please react on keys to kingdom, with Emily
She should take a lower octave it would match him better
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Chester eats her for breakfast, brunch, lunch, afternoon snack, dinner, and midnight snack
just searching given up and found this. good video tho!
Funny you bring up Kurt cobain. She actually has a good cover of heart shaped box
Chester was pro, one of the best control and knowledge of scream. This girl need to be more practice to not destroy her voice anyway good luck to her ❤
Yo Chris I have been waiting for you to react to a great singer from band Red his name is Michael Barnes I hope you cover their songs as they resemble LP in a way. Songs like faceless would be great if you hear it. Hope you check em out !
Technic vs. Intent.
When Emily gets all the "haters" to fuel her, it'll sound a lot better.
There is no reason for this video. Chester and Emily are two different people. He was great but has been tragically deceased for 7 years. Emily is a new singer in Linkin Park 2.0, and is not trying to be Chester, she is herself. All of this controversy is just hate and nonsense.
Check out Bobby Amarus Linkin Park shorts. You will find many similarities.
The thing is Chester was a Metal/Metalcore vocalist Emily isn’t. But sorry Emily isn’t going to get better or closer to Chester she’s already 38 years old.
Every time I follow this I find my voice and throat constrict instead of relax. How can I move past this?
Chester is past and Emily is present and doing outstanding job so there is no point to compare with the dead man, don’t you see how Linking park new vocal goes viral all over the worlds with compliments and compliments. We all happy Linking park back after 7 years and we all can see Mike eyes it’s shining and happy ❤
She immediately made me think of Courtney Love but much more refined and controlled