Prince Aegon Targaryen Origin - Mentally Scattered Pervy Prince Who Will Make Westeros Bow To Him
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i think Rhaenyra and Daemon immediately fake murdering Laenor to marry each other confirms they’d stop at nothing to get what they want. they were able to fake it with Laenor, bc he’d want to disappear and find love. but Aegon would have been a constant threat to Rhae’s rule. Daemon and her would very likely have him and Aemond killed.
Heavy disagree. Rhaenyra wed Daemon only after the continued challenges to her sons' parentage, Team Green winning the biggest dragon, and the Strong-Cole courtyard fight. What she knew is that her enemies were amassing power to take not only HER birthright, but the rights of her kids, and so she had to make allies with Daemon and Rhaenys both.
The notion that she was somehow fated to kill Alicent's kids is quite literally the consequence of Hightower propaganda and the inaccuracies of Maester retellings. Faking the death of her infertile husband has no correlation at all to Alicent, her only childhood friend and caretaker of her father's, kids. It helped show she was ruthless, yes, but from a reader's perspective this should give a look into her desperation at the hands of the Green's greedy plays for her throne and prestige.
You’re wrong aemond and ageon would not live long if they just let her take the throne Alicent knew that deep down even if they escaped assassins would be sent after them also Aegeon is bad but Rhenyera ain’t no saint even though show tries to lead the audience in that direction
@@dilakosplays5900 can’t justify Fiction with Facts .. Real people have Intentions, motives and agendas, fictional characters are what the Author wants them to be.. can’t ascribe motives where there aren’t any.
I mean, we’re talking about if’s and buts regarding a fictional world. However we KNOW for a fact alicent and Otto plotted to have Rhaenyra and her entire family murdered for that very reason. So it’s not like the Hightowers have the higher moral ground here lmfao. They’re directly going against the king and his official order, not to mention Otto, alicent, and her kids are just shitty, backstabbing cunts in general.
@@dilakosplays5900 dude pointing to historical precedent for a fictional scenario does nothing for ur argument. I know you don't even want to change your mind, but objectively speaking no one can say for a fact that Rhaenyra has ever been shown pondering/pontificating/scheming on how to k word Alicent's kids. It's all projection from people like Otto, and you, that it MUST be what they're thinking. No concrete dialogue or story cues that the Blacks in the show want Alicent's kids dead. Plenty of citable evidence for the contrary. As cool as it is to know how insecure people are(as they should be) in the face of staging a coup from the true heir, it doesn't give credibility to you or the Greens.
Aegon is 23 in the book. The fan drawings are always wrong tbh. They also depicted Rhaenyra’s 3 first born sons with white hair until corrected. They also paint the Mad King like sixty years. When he was just 39.
They said the mad king looked much older than his age because of his unkempt looks. That's probably why he is depicted that way.
He was 39 but he looked 63 because of his unusual paranoia
True Cregan Stark a guy who was in his 20s at the end of the Dance is also depicted as a 50year old guy in fan art
True, fan works at times are cool, but not all the time. Many hits and missed
Yep, mad king grew up with Tywin. Tywin was 55 in ASOIAF.
it’s all Visery’s fault. Now I understand the greens, Aegon by law and customs of the land should be the heir to the throne. Indeed, Aegon’s birthright was stolen from him.
Lol its not Viserys fault.Its Otto and his daughter Allicent's greed to power that started the dances of dragons.
@@stalepotatoes Thank you!
Umm the greed of the Hightowers caused that war
@@stalepotatoes Like Otto held the King at a gun point to marry his daughter...
@@stalepotatoes so Visery's do not have a choice but to marry Allicent?
Does anyone else think the "older Aegon" actor looks younger than the "young Aegon"? I think the younger one embodies the character better and should've been kept on. Maybe episode 8 will change my mind.
Yea, the 2nd actor looks nothing like the younger one, they should've kept him or found someone taller and similar looking
@@ChrisM-dx8up on the other hand older Aemond looks very similar to younger one so good job there. Also hearing his performance as one eye is anazing
Agreed
episode 8 changed my mind on this. the actor looks older, seemed like just bad pictures. he also played an older version of Tenant in another show.
I thought the exact same . When i first seen him in the prieview i thought he was a younger sibling
Aegon III broke the curse, he's just depressed. The Bruce Wayne of Westeros.
Well, it wasn’t his line who led to Daenerys b/c it died out immediately after him. The Tudors would consider that a curse 😅 I’m laughing at my own corny joke, just so you know my laughing emoji is not meant to be insulting. I’m just a Philippa Gregory fan too.
@@stephaniemomma Although his line is continued by The Blackfyres
Aegon III and Daeron II are my two favorite kings in the story because of the sheer adversity they had to go throught and still became fairly good rulers in there own right.
@@Argos-xb8ek that’s Aegon the 4th
@@jakealter5504 Aegon IV was the Father of Daemon but his Mother was Aegon III's daughter
16:16 Aegon did not want the throne, he had to be convinced by Criston Cole
the main victim of the dragon dance. he never wanted to be king, he supported Raenira's right to the throne despite the fact that his mother inspired him with fear of her all his life. he was forced to marry his sister, their little sons was brutally murdered. He fell astride a sunfyre and broke his ribs, thigh and received burns on half of his body, was tied to bed for a year, then was forced to flee and hide on the dragon stone. In a fight with Beyla, he broke both legs and lost his dragon. As a result, he took the throne, refused poppy milk to be sober and rule, spent the rest of his life in terrible agony and died at 23. Remeber he was just a child who wanted to live his life.
Its so fucking tragic. The whole story is for all the kids born in the timeline of DoD. Only adult I feel bad for in the show is Viserys but in the books not so much.
@@FactsOverFeeings I fully agree that every child in this story was sacrificed by their adults but no one suffered as aegon did physically. I was hooked by the scene in the last episode of the show where Aemond lost an eye and Alicent slapped Aegon with the words "your pain is nothing compared to the pain of your brother" I hope she will regret her words later...
Yeeeeaaaahhh Aegon II was definitely one of the great tragedies- sadly, he would've been a great king had he been given a real chance at that throne. He was dealt one bad hand after another. Even his grievous injuries at Rook's Rest were more Aemond's fault than anyone else's.
In the show, he may be a low life (He's a rapist) but, if they keep what happens to him in the book, then he's a victim. Unlike Joffey, he seems to have guts (Fights nephew Luke) and isn't power hungry.
Oh please he's a rapist who cares about his failed childhood
Aegon never wanted the Throne until after Viserys died and his mother convinced him to take it, so your description is kinda misleading. And yes he was right to claim the throne, Rhaenyra would have not hesitated to eliminate him and his siblings to strenghten her claim. Even if she didn't, Daemon would have certainly.
We don't know if she'd kill him it was all speculation.
@@Argos-xb8ek Anyone with some geopolitical and historical knowledge would know that Aegon was a threat to her just by breathing. And yes as the person above said, It's extremely audacious to expect to inherit the throne when even her father got it by skipping Rhaenys.
@meelf huntah It doesn't matter, he kings word is law and over rules everything else including previous rulings.
@@Cloudsofsand Maybe, But putting yourself above the law is a good way to start a civil war. Viserys was a good hearted king but he was weak and undecessive. He should have named Aegon heir or at least held a council like Jaehaerys did. He should've known from the start that it would be very hard to put a women on the throne in Westeros, especially if she had bastard children
@Isaiah Nah you really don't know how many people, even children, where killed in history just due to their blood and name. In westeros, one example would be the little Targaryen boys during Robert's rebellion.
And thanks for the correction, my english is not perfect
Targaryen’s naming innovation is from the George Forman playbook.
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Targs are inherently pervy and Aegon II is no exception.
Lol..I didn't like the window scene when I first saw it, but afterward realized it's part of showing how immature Aegon is.
It definitely highlighted his princely ways
At least he preferred others to his family lol
EXCELLENT analysis !
I love your channel, thank you for all the HoT D lore
This story is actually so tragic when you think about it. There was no way to avoid it for Viserys. The only thing he could have done differently is not be so quick to name a different heir.. but I see his reasoning.
If he named Aegon Heir then a lot would've been cleared up, and if he made a marriage between them then that's even better.
Making Rhaenyra heir and not disinheriting her for her multiple bastards was his biggest mistake.
Viserys could have pulled it off with a few things:
marriage of Helena and Jace
Justice for Aemond done in a manner that bonds Luce and Jace. by blood brothership (from Luce's body part loss) and a wardship together in a third place. Aegon needs to be married to Baella, Luce to Rhaella.
Viserys should've gave his sons more love too
He should have married Aegon to Rhaenyra just like Otto told him, people hate Otto but he was seeing this conflict years ahead and tried to remedy the situation way before it all started Viserys had no vision tho.
@@imjennasidel6703 it's literally great for everyone, including Otto. Rhaenyra ascends the Throne as Queen and the next potential claimant is her husband and Prince consort, her brother Aegon.
You're right, Viserys has no vision. He is a great father, brother, grandfather and so on, but a weak King. He's the guy everybody loves but nobody fears or particularly respects.
or not remarry since he had already chosen an heir
Tentative. The word is tentative or tenuous(4:33). Tenacious means something very different. It may seem small, but it takes me out of the work and breaks the spell. And what does "unsurped" mean? Or "linage"?
Probably not good to show the Dance of Dragons Aegon while talking about the one during Maegor's era. It's going to confuse people.
Definitely confused me. On my third attempt, I listened only. That helped a little.
Yes, this is not a good presentation, lazy
I feel pretty bad for him, he never wanted to be king.
Ambitions got them all killed .
The narrator pronunciation of basic words makes me wanna throw hands
Lmao. "Aennus Targaryen" I'd love to watch the Hound, Bron or Tormund talk shit about that name.
That would be 6 Kingdoms champ, only 6. Dorne did not join until literally Aerys II's reign.
Dorne joined 7 kingdoms during the reign of dearon 2
The constant use of Aegon's II image every time you use the name "Aegon" is confusing
Video starts at 10.20
Thanks
At least Aegon listen to his mother.
07:38 “usurped” (you-SERPT), not “unserped”
4:33 - Um, I think you mean tenuous. Tenacious means fierce. Tenuous means weak.
I’m loving “King Anus” here. 😆 Fam, it’s “ay-knees”
I can’t let it go.
daeron is not cut from the show. he's a bloodstream in the open of the show. he's likely in old Town squiring
Aemond
n Aegon are uglly
Ryan and GRRM have both confirmed he will be in season 2 and has been I'm Oldtown. He is also on the family tree on the HBO website
lol! Please, change your pronunciations. Aenys is a - niece, not A - nus. 🤣
Nah. Daeryn ain't cut from the show. He just hasn't shown up yet, being n Old Town, training as a maester. He is a a big character with a good story arc. Some would argue that he is actually by far, the most badass of the Green children. Even moreso than Aemond, being a rather talented fighter (the equal to Aemond), on top of being a Maester. Showing his intelligence. Yeah, he's just too big not to b there. He's just responsible for too many important occasions n the story. Idk. That's just me. Great video. Thank You for all of your efforts. They don't go unnoticed.👍💯✌️
🤨Primogeniture did not favor Rhaenyra for being from the first wife. The only line that matters is decent from the monarch, not any of their consorts.
Good point...I think they meant her being first born overall..that would favor her.
Kid version bully Aegon vs. chad adult Aegon more like. And people calling adult Aegon pervy did you forget what young Aegon was doing in his room outside his window?
0:20 maestor Aemon looking wierd
"Birthright does not make a good king, Temperament does!" AMEN!!
"His hold was" tenuous, you mean. Not "tenacious." That's actually the opposite. Solid fan otherwise. Thanks!
The guy playing the older version of it on the show looks like a lead of a punk rock emo band 😅
More accurate to the books
Opinion: I almost feel pity for him because his reign was absolutely miserable. He was unconscious for a good half of it and then the other half he was in constant physical agony and lost all his family members. I almost feel sorry for him but I can’t help thinking he brought it on himself in a way. Surprisingly from reading the lore, he’s not the worst member of the Greens. His mother, Ser Criston Coke, Larys Strong we’re awful. He actually was going to do the right thing but was manipulated out of it. That is where my sympathy draws in because he didn’t want to do it from the beginning and was actually doing the right thing by obeying his fathers wishes unlike the rest of the Greens that betrayed Viserys as soon as he drew his last breathe. In that way I can say he was loyal to his father even though their relationship isn’t much specified in the books. He was probably thinking that in his last moments that if he had not taken the throne then his children wouldn’t be dead and he wouldn’t be a severely burned cripple. I bet most of the Greens in the end we’re experiencing high forms of regret. Especially since they didn’t even win in the end. The war was about which bloodline would come out on top and it was Rhaenyra’s. And to add insult to injury he was betrayed by his own men, not that I feel sorry for him on that, but that’s just pitiful to go through all that trouble to be sold out by your own men and knowing that as your dying your enemy wins because the matter of succession went through Rhaenyra’s children not his. Even though he’s a despicable character, his ending almost makes you feel sorry for him. ALMOST (for me)
Allisant (spelling?) had poisoned her sons against their half sister and that obviously really didn't help but Helana didn't seem to share the same hatred. I feel for her the most. She had one of her kids killed in front of her :(
I’m very interested Im House of the dragon but it’s very hard for me to under stand does anyone know the books I have to read in order ?
go to audible...listened to them all at the end of GOT
I think ita just fire and blood? That's for sure where it starts if not the only 1. I'm not 100% cuz I didn't read them but from what I've seen in videos that is the book they reference.
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It's usurped u said unsurp
Aegon and Joffrey would be best mates
Just like Robert and Ned but sociopathic
Nonsense. Aegon spared Rhaenyra's son. And he wasn't as incompetent as Joffrey.
King Skeet 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 lol wut?
Damn King Anus sounds like a good guy
Marrying Aegon could of prevented the Dance of Dragons tho. What y’all think the outcome would of been if they married?
Bring back this narrator!
Voice can make all the difference in videos. Love it!
Yeah, I thought the other one was some kinda read-aloud android. This British dude is perfect... plus, you know... when people talk about GoT/HoTD, they just sound more relevant than a nerdy american with a lisp whose gums you can we smack while he talks- I forgot which specific channel I'm talking about. But yehh
@@xellffs6258 the voice might sound good but he mispronounced many words, cringe. No excuse for mispronounciation.
The original Robby B
Aegon didn't wanted the throne at least do your research this is an insulting mistake and you're straight up spreading misinformation on a mass scale ...
Promiscuity....
Rhaenyra: anyway so I started screwing everything in my path, having not 1 not 2 but 3 bastards and trying to put them on the throne
She didn’t start ‘screwing everyone in her path.’ She had an ongoing affair with Harwen Strong.
@@carastone3473 see criston
Her uncle
See harwin
She was eyeing that lord bracken too
@@HiddenCloudlobo not everyone
What a horrible way of thinking!
@@HiddenCloudlobo - Dude! That's THREE men. THREE! That's a small number and definitely doesn't qualify as "screwing everyone in her path!" Ser Criston - apparently one time; Harwen Strong - a long-term affair by which she had 3 children, so obviously they were seeing each other for several years; Daemon - 1 time (after Rhaenyra's lover and his wife were both dead), and they got married soon after.
Technically the Black's won the Targaryean Civil War because Aegon the younger became king after Aegon the Elder got betrayed
But rhaenyra didn't sit on the thrown at all so technically the greens one 🤷🏻
@@lyrikalstyles8040 yes she did...
And his sons became king , then his brother Viserys (was his hand and hand to his 2 sons ) also became king after them and his descendants are Jon Snow and Deanerys
@@craigfjyp1 it for long then she lost it and the throne rejected her
@@magnusthered4973 true....but she still sat the throne.
Aegon has three siblings, aegon was never known to enjoy cruelty rhaenyra got what was coming, aegon was brave, aegon is nothing like Joffrey and is the rightful king, although eat the rich and let the royals of both sides burn I’ve no love for either side
ain’t no way someone typed this bs
How did she get what she deserved?! She named herself heir?!
That is what all of this boils down to. Viserys named her heir and at no point did he ever unname her. This was treason against Rhaenyra, not the other way around.
You just outted yourself as someone who supports a rapist!
Just a poor innocent rapist ,,, GTF out of here
@@mercuriology45 Right! Like...are we watching/reading the same thing?!
Did George R R Martin really have to name one of them Aenys? Come on. That's just cruel.
Aegon + Rhaenys = Aenys
Who’s on team raynera who’s on team Allison lol
Your British accent makes you sound intelligent, but your pronunciation and word choice implies the opposite. To be clear, I am not talking about your pronunciation of GRRM's invented character and place names, I'm talking about your mispronunciation of English words.
The window scene shows how opportunistic Alicent is. She should have punched Aegon in the face for being such a creepy perv but instead motivated him to become king despite bad education and lust.
All targs are prevs boy
@@rohanshende4338 That pervy though? After tonight's episode....goddamn, jacking off in a window is better.
I think viserys son agons sons actor with the long hair is better actor for him then the one we just got he looks like a toad stool
Same..he looks younger to me than the long haired one.
@@tinahs8269 I swear I thought it was the 4th green child Darren I believe he's called
He's been drinking living a shitty life
First 🥇
Ok homie is straight up just saying Anus Targaryen
Anyone else feel bad for the child they named Anus? Like why?
Aenys*
@@jesusgonzalez6719 well he keeps pronouncing it like anus
Aegon was corrupted by his mum and grandfather
I liked the way that dude looked and his acting as younger Aegon. I don't like the new actor playing an older Aegon at all. I don't think he looks like the previous actor at all. I like both Aemond actors though.
Aemonds actors don’t look alike at all
Besides older Aegon is more accurate to the books
Aaah, is this the new Geoffrey?
No Rhaenyra is just wait and watch
His hold was TENUOUS. Not tenacious.
Yo! Anus has me DEAD 💀 😂
Actually joffery is like aegon the 2nd but I know what u mean because they showed GOT first
They should of switched actors. The older Aegon looks younger then the young Aegon. Weird.
disagree, older aegon looks older than the young one cuz of the difference of their body types and body hair
How? Young Aegon looks 12. Older Aegon looks 16. Besides older one is more accurate to the books
Ser Criston 😡
Idk how one could claim to be “devoted to the laws of the land” while literally committing treason/going against their kings wishes lmao.
If you read the books or googled, you know who ultimately wins, and who ends up on the throne.
Aemondd wants to be king
The older Aegon looks younger than. his younger brother Aemond... why?! The Aegon before with long hair even looked older then the now Aegon, not sure what's happened with casting
Aegon The Elder proves that he’s no better than Maegor The Cruel and he’s unworthy of boring the name Aegon after The Conqueror. Now his birthright being taken from him is really really what’s being shown in the show and what’s being told in the book, how ever it is his grandfather, and his father’s fault because they had different views on how to ensure peace in the kingdom.
Viserys wanted a Pureblood Targaryen on the throne while Otto wanted his blood with Targaryen genes on the throne, Viserys is at fault for not establishing the Absolutism law to replace Male Primogeniture and Otto is at fault for creating dissent among the two Targaryens factions and Aegon contributed to it as well.
I really dislike this. Not well done. It's very misleading and essentially lazy; aside from the heavy repetition of the same images that gets very boring, the images are INCORRECT. Using images from HotD to tell the story of Maegor's usurpation is really weird. Two entirely different stories & Aegons! Bad bad bad.
I hate all the Hightowers only the youngest son who hasn't been seen. Is normal n well lloved
Please learn to pronounce the characters names. It’s far too obvious that you don’t actually watch the show…
Some of these videos were made before the show started...based on books and promos..the narrator did apologize and correct his pronunciation of Jacearys name in a recent video
Thumbnail, Book Guy Looks Masculine, Series Female Looks Feminine.... My bad, I Guess that is suppose to be a male????
He never was masculine. in the books he is described as a beardless man with a capricious nature. he was not a warrior and the armor did not suit him. during the war he was seriously injured and was bedridden for almost the entire dance and died at 23. The actor fits the description in my opinion
@@user-jf3zy5si9w I was going ONLY By the Thumbnail They ORIGINALLY USED And Now Have Changed, yet Somehow got to Keep All their Views.... Because If You change your Thumbnails ( Or Anything in/about your Video) after So Many Hours, You LOOSE All Your Views and the Count Starts Over....
Whoever decided this is how older Aegon should look should be fired.
NO ITS MORE ACCURATE TO THE BOOKS
Neither Joffrey nor Aegon are good looking 🤣
This guy belonged in prison.
Wait till you see Rhaenyra
could have kept the other aegon looks the same age and more handsome sorry
Nah, this actor is good looking. They just gave him a bad wig and gave him eyebags with his makeup since he drinks all the time. Look at the actor out of character and he's good looking.
Hate both Aegon and Joffrey
Can’t stand the dude they got to play older aegon
You explain this very confusing
Aemond's even worse...