10 Insane Differences Between Fire & Blood and House of the Dragon Episode 9 - Explored
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- 10 Biggest Differences Between Fire & Blood and House of the Dragon Episode 9!
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I like your
House of the dragon
Explanation bro.
Aegon didn't want to be King in the book either. He only accepted after his mother said his sister would kill him and his family if he didn't
i think cole said that
It was cole who said it
@@DamnTheBeavers so did his mother...watch the episode after she caught him...in his bedroom window.
The biggest part for me? The absence of Mushroom. Seriously. I was looking forward to him!
He was present at the Rhaenyra's first wedding. He is playing a drum, if I remember correctly.
there is nothing simple minded about haelana she has visions that distract her but she knows things they do not. they just dont pay attention to her.
“Righteous alicent” whatever you say lmao. She’s literally just as bad (if not worse) than most of the other characters. She literally had at least one person killed so far that I can remember.
I can’t stand her character in the show, she’s one of those people that judges everyone else and acts holier than thou while being just as bad if not worse. I get people may not like Rhaenyra, but I’ve seen people saying the greens are the “heroes” or the “good guys”. The greens are clearly the “bad guys” here. They pulled off a literal coup to take the throne from its rightful heir that viserys declared (multiple times as well). They had a secret plan to lock up/kill anyone that knew of the kings death and/or didn’t go along with their side. That should tell you all you need to know.
Yeah, the Greens are clearly the bad guys with good PR while the otherside is right but not nearly as charming.
I don’t like any good guy/bad guy stuff. You’re right but neither side is good really. There are sympathetic characters and villains on both sides
They are no true heroes and true villains. Rhaenyra has her part in turning Allicent against her. Allicent is right in saying that her children's lives are not safe as long Rhaenyra rules. You know what Daemon is capable of. And according to every existing tradition in Westeros (and in our world too really), Aegon II is the true heir and not Rhaenyra. Viserys became King only because of this tradition of male primogeniture. How can Viserys overturn a tradition of favouring male heirs ehen he himself was crowned over Rhaenys based on this tradition.
And Allicent is absolutely right that the strong boys are born out of marriage and has no right to the throne. While her own kids, the true born sons of King Viserys gets nothing at all!!! That's really unfair!!!!
I can feel Allicent. All her life, she is forced to follow rules and she does for the sake of the kingdom and her family but gets nothing in return while Rhaenyra simply pays no heed and does what she does and still gets Viserys's full support no matter what! I can totally get Allicent.
@@BertRussie I agree with everything you said.
@@BertRussie the people who deserve the throne are those that can take and hold it. Traditions are just that traditions and they can change they are not set in stone somewhere obligating everyone to follow them. the king is the highest authority and the king declared his heir was his daughter. Just like Robert declared Ned to take the throne but Cersei tore the paper up. The dance is supposed to parallel the story happening in the book.
Man, season 2 is going to be so good! They set up the dance perfectly!
Something to keep in mind is that Archmaester Gyldayn is relying on unreliable narrators about what happened during the Dance of the Dragons, living over a century after these events.
One source he would rely on regarding the Kingsguard knights would be the White Book, which is only maintained by the Lord Commander.
Criston Cole could easily fudge the date of Lord Commander Westerling's death to omit his criticism and resignation from the Kingsguard during the treason of the Green Council.
Alicent is not honorable but as conniving as as her father. Her children are not pure Targaryan blood but half Hightower. Her children could have had dark hair as her whole line has not one blonde.
She entertains the likes of foot fetishist Strong who murdered his family, she knows that, but he's still by her side. Then she's totally ruined Cer Bitter.
Exactly! She isn't as good as she'd like to seem but people are falling for the farce.
@@PhotoJeticPoet Yeah, I’ve been astounded by the extensive whitewashing of Alicent. They go so far as to suggest she never thought of Aegon II should be king until Viserys’s deathbed.
And she was clutching her pearls because of the Targaryen incest but marries her children to each other
@@m.williams4971 Yeah like "Huh?? You've been conspiring to crown AEGON?? I HAD NO IDEA!!"
Alicent reminds me of the character tragedy stories where the 'worst monsters are the ones we create'. The best villains are the ones you understand.
If you think Cristan Cole killing him was an accident you weren’t watching the same character I have been this whole season. He’s a crazy bastard who is always willing to kill.
He offered to kill Tyland Lannister for rhaenyra in episode 2 even if he was joking I think if she would of said yes he would of done it 😂😂😂😂
just like Dameon
@@Christcrusader98 jason
You have clearly not watched any of GRR's interviews about Fire and Blood-House of the Dragon, in them he clearly states that the book is written from the view of a Meister years after The Dance and therefore based on what other Meisters have said but the series will show what actually happened to further the Meister conspiracy. So HOD shows the truth while the books are mostly gossip
Better hope they don't flub the landing then. Because that would actually ruin the Fire and Blood books in a way the GoT finale couldn't do to the series.
@@kyleellis1825 I don't think it will defer that much, just little differences like we have already had. You know like how people die or who was actually complicit
@@TheBslep those are both huge details
@@kyleellis1825 They’ve already started to flub it. Nobody is going to convince me that to have Rhaenys burst through the floor of the dragon pit during Aegon’s coronation, and instead of wiping out the load of traitor’s in front of her, she chooses to use intimidation and have her dragon yell at them? Wow, lame on so many levels, Hollyweird.
Holy hell so awful!! Just imagine them writing this slop.. “Yea, and then she bursts through the floor, YEA YEA, killing hundreds of innocent people but who cares about them?” YEA, and then we’ll have her on the dragon and she’ll walk right up to Aegon and his mom and then.. BOOM, “She wipes them all out..” NO STUPID!? We still need to have a show!? No, she has her dragon YELL at them, turn around, and fly away!! “Genius!” 😂😂
Wow man your explanations of episode 9 was outstanding and I haven't even read the book yet, but I did subscribe and keep up the great work!!!✌️💯💪👊!!!
I can't believe Rhaenyras brudder stole her crown
You guys (narrators) all have such great voices for doing all these very well researched and crafted videos! Just curious - are you all part of the same family or did you just happen to find each other? I know it’s not easy. These videos are always interesting and fun to watch. Thanks, and much appreciated!
I was going to say this is the worst narration so far on these videos. I really liked the narrator on some of these earlier videos.
@@KingEdwardMMVIII "da books" "even dough" "one anoder" lol [not trying to be mean but its funny, i did notice its not the best narration]
@@christinelicitra and “bethroatal” 🤣 really?!
The show is what’s actually happening like we were there the book is word of mouth passed down. Aemond didn’t really want to kill luck but they couldn’t control their dragons the book made it seem like Aemond hunted him down
Yeah, I mean how could the maesters or authors know what happened in the skies? all they know is that there was a near violent confrontation in the storms end castle, the left and luke and arrax's corpses were found shorty after....they put two and two together....but couldn't never truly know the actual encounter interactions.
It is clearly stated in the books that Gaemon Palehair was NOT Aegon's son. His mother spread the rumour during the last stages of the war to take advantage of the chaos and the lack of a ruler. She confessed under torture that the boy's father was a man from Lys, hence the Valyrian features.
People will admit to anything if that meant their torture would stop. The men who were accused of committing adultery w Anne Boelyn admitted to it under torture despite most historians agreeing that those confessions were likely not true
Torture tho. Thaddeus Rowen confessed to poisoning King Viserys 1 (he was on the other side of Westeros at the king's death) and causing the doom of Valyria due to torture
@@loodeeloo8979 Torture is only (very mildly) useful when you need the information right away to save lives (and you have a way to at least double check).
Because like you say, people will admit to anything under torture.
@@loodeeloo8979 Only one of Anne's accused lovers was tortured, he was also the only one to confess. England had laws against torturing nobles, so only Mark Smeaton, who was a musician at court, was subjected to torture.
History is written by the victors. If Gaemon was actually Aemon's son, that would legitimize his claim. It makes sense that they wouldn't want people to know that.
Fadder and brudder lol, I could listen to him talk all day
I thought my ears were playing tricks on me
@@Randomclown lol nope 🤣
There is no freaking way Alicent was shocked by anything her father did… she’s just good at playing the victim. She knew Vis was not talking about her Aegon, she is so full of it.
One may never be described as both "quiet" and "glib." For future reference.
Love this good job bud.
Has the show ever explained what happened to Sea Smoke since Lanore didn't die? Did it follow him or is the dragon free? In the book Lanore died and Sea Smoke gets another rider and fights in the war. That can't happen if Lanore is alive MIA.
Nah, they haven't. But Martin never wrote anything similar in the book, I think they
shouldn't let Laenor be back since it's already a major adaptation, his part should be done. So, I'm guessing Seasmoke will still be claimed by Addam in the future.
Daemon said during the finale that Seasmoke is still on Driftmark.
It’s easy to kill Laenor in the next season. In the books, he was killed by Ser Qarl; since in the series they are now together- there’s a possibility that it could still happen.
I don't think Ser Harrold is REALLY putting down his cloak. If he goes to Rhaenyra he'll still keep his oath, same as Ser Arryk, Ser Lorent, and Ser Steffon. The Kingsguard split during the Dance, and before he was LC Harrold was Rhaenyra's sworn shield.
You called Amond the kings "Cousin" that's his brother my guy
Episode 9 & 10 remind me of what's happened to America, especially in 2020. When fantasy fiction meets reality we have problems.
Gaemon isn't a bastard of Aegon, that was a lie told by his mother to claim royalty during the Moon of 3 Kings
That's not confirmed. Yes, his mother confessed to that, but only under torture. You can't take what somebody admits to under torture for the truth. Someone would admit to murdering their own mother just to make the pain stop. Even if their mother was still alive. You just can't take confessions under torture as truth.
how does the actor for king aegon manage to look 12 and 42 at the same time? Lmao
He’s got a similar unlikeable face like King Joffrey in GOT 😂. The brat king.
*Coup is pronounced Coo to rhyme with shoe. 👨🎓
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In episode 9 at the end of the episode the war could’ve been over before it started if Rhaenys had used her dragon to kill them all. It’s like in WW2 when the French didn’t listen to there intelligence when they told their leaders that there is miles of German tanks and armoured vehicles all backed up in a traffic jam trying to cross the border in the Sudetenland but they were like “why would they attack where the defence is at it’s best? They’re gonna come in through the Netherlands then Belgium (which the Germans sent a small force to draw the French army there)”. If the French and English had bombed that German convoy the war would’ve been over by 1940
1:50 Damn, what's the name of this awesome background song???
The thumbnail picture of book Helena looks like Tara Reid 🤣
The episode should have ended after Aegon raised his sword a couple of times. The Rhaenys scene did not make any sense
It didn’t, but boy it was good!
It kinda did. She was against the coup and Aegon taking the throne but still blames Rhaenyra and Daemon for her son’s death. She doesn’t side with Rhaenyra either, but rather waits for lord Corlys to make that decision for the house: like she said, it’s not her war.
“Her FAUDER” lmfao
Okay but I don't know why people would have issue with him being unfaithful... his wife is his sister, that's gotta make you wanna look elsewhere
oh man the way u say " father" and "mother" gived me PTSD flashbacks...of back when i was 12...sitting alone at night reading stephan kings "It"...beverly marsh as an adult in her old house encountering the witch...."my fadder was also my mudder...he shat me out of his asshole..." :O
Aemond didn’t really want to kill luck but they couldn’t control their dragons the book made it seem like Aemond hunted him down
well done here
5:50 "Truly an accident" lol
Just like Aemond was just pranking Luke when he died.
You don't know what Alicent knew in the book because the book is just second hand stories from 2 dudes who weren't there.
I have a feeling that Aemond will kill Lucerys in the last episode, but I wonder if we'll see Blood and Cheese also.
They leaked the contents of the episodes a few weeks ago and Lucerys will cap off the season. Kind of like a Halloween special
We better see Blood and Cheese !! Although we shouldn't see them until season 2.
Yes I think the finale ends with Rhaenarya finding out Lucerys is dead and Daemon telling her he will get revenge.
I kinda wish they did make the meeting reach 7-10 days. Viserys would be rotting in his bed and word would spread to Rhaenyra of how lowly her father have been treated.
What is a "bethroatal" when u r talking about aegon and heleanas betrothal, was that a joke or just a mispronocation? It sounded like it was supposed to be a joke bc you paused before saying it but if it is i dont get the joke.
What a dumb premise for a book . To write about gossip instead of actual facts that happen. I’m glad I skipped reading it.
Lord confessor for king vicarys , master of whisperers for the hand Otto hightower, and master-debator for queen alicent 😃
Love house of da dragon
Remember take fire & blood with a grain of salt
According to the author the whole book is made by Meister’s who were not involved with the main event
You only think these differences are "insane" if you don't understand HOW the book was written and meant to be taken!
Wait, it’s kind of crazy the King didn’t build a relationship with his two sons. Why do you think that was?
I wish they had more scenes of him interacting more with his kids with Alicent on the show, but the way they make it seem like on the show is that he neglects them and only speaks to them if needed.😂
Because they had to really show how much he favoured rhaenyra. He never got over the death of his first wife.
The differences are null, as the book err story is but a short biography on this family so whatever they do is whatever. Lol. But there are accurances that I wish they showed, like Criston intentionally killing Beesbury....it really shows how determined and cold blooded they were(he was) to usurp the iron throne from Rheanyra. So far everyone has been killing the otherside "on accident" notyouvaemond. Really trying hard to make sure we simp for both sides, or non at all. 🙄🙄😅😅
I like the way you say father
And the way you say “One another.”
I'm sorry, am I hearing the narrator say "mudder" & "fadder"?!
If that young boy was Gaemon Pale hair then I feel sorry for him and his character arc
.... She/They don't tell anyone!!!!!... The way the kerchief was to her nose in the last part... He was rotting by then 100%
Do you even watch the show or read the books? First, Aegon refused the throne in the book, when his mother came to him, he specifically said he didn’t want to steal his sister’s birthright, so he did not believe the throne was his birthright, he only agreed to take the throne after his mother convinced him his sister would have him put to death if she were to become queen. Secondly in the Sir Steffon Darklyn was already on dragonstone in the show, it was Sir Erryk Cargyll who brought the crown to Rhaenyra in the show not Sir Darklyn
What is with your alliteration???
The thing is Helena is meant to be plump and not very comely so that picture in the thumbnail absolutely does not reflect book helrana, they always make the women far too pretty in the fan art...
I would prefer commoners or hand-men, as I’m female, to my spouse, who happens to be my brother. Good grief! No wonder so many were F’ed up!
If you are saying coup like an overthrow of a government, it is pronounced / coo/. It is a French word and you do not hear the final consonant.
Why do you pronounce all your /th/ sounds like a d?? Example-/bruder/ for brother.
So finally Alison final going to hate green colour for rest of her life
They care for each udder?
It's no longer personal, about selfishness, and about each faction's perception of wrong and right. It's now very clear cut someone working for the greater good against an absolute evil. She just has to cut down some unfriendly family members in the process. The inclusion of more fantasy elements has actually not been as good as I'd hoped because it's clear that the original work was constructed while having that not be a motive.
I think the adaptation has stripped a lot of characters of agency, and being deliberate in making decisions (Although, yes, there's still wiggle room for an argument for sure when it comes to each character's decisions).
The thing is, I did want this to be Blacks Vs Greens, where the greens went ahead and usurped the throne, but then it would become this fantastic deconstruction of "the good guys" and "the bad guys".
It would be about self (and legacy) destruction, about how ambition is sometimes terrible, about how choosing yourself over the greater good and doing "the right thing" on the surface is not necessarily for the best, and about the horrors of war and how it should be avoided at all costs.
But with the inclusion of the prophecy it made all of this .... Inconsequential..
Rhaenyra is no longer doing it for herself, she's doing it because of the prophecy, Alicent isn't willing to usurp the throne she just does it because she misunderstood Viserys.
Everything is "watered down", the book is "less is more" in a brilliant way. The show is ... More but less. It's still better a million times than 99% of what's on TV though.
I was expecting something more like... Dune but even more deconstructive and intelligent.
But nope, gotta get watered down for a mainstream audience.
They have the chance to make something actually smart though. Shame that was passed on in favor of something more digestible for a layman.
I will still watch but I'm not gonna say that this was as good as it could be.
Expecting more prophecy ex machina, more "spectacle" and unfortunately, less substance (Even though they don't have to choose between the two).
Rhaenys has black hair.
Um...the very first supposed change, which is a change...isn't what you claim in the books. Alicent wasn't the one who found Viserys, it was a serving man, who ran and informed Alicent. Meaning...the chances in the book that others knew was already there. It is a change because it was a man, not a woman or a boy, but...nah lol. And it makes me wonder if I should even watch the rest of it. Especially since it's just entertainment value for me, not learning.
Maybe I'll just stay to correct you.
I dont get it. Aegon told Aemond he would go away in a ship and disappear. He didnt want to be king! Why would Aemond prevent him from leaving if he himself wanted to be the king!
Because Ser Bitter Cole was there…otherwise he would’ve. You could see in his eyes,….excuse me , eye, that he was definitely considering it !
Well, regardless he wouldn’t be king. Aegon has a son.
@@sirdronexxiv2868 I'm guessing you're on team black
She should have burned them all!
why is Fergie in the thumbnail
It’s father not “fodder”
Most would look the same with make up actually I see it.
It’s missing humor
Why do you say the word 'the' like 'da'...its like you speak another language for just one word
I like Alicent
The Show makes Vaemond Velaryon the 1st death of the dance now
Not really. His death was related to a conflict over the seat of Driftmark, not the Iron Throne. Just because the sides wound up black vs green doesn’t make it part of the dance. The official 1st death of the dance was Lord Beesbury.
So many ugly actors in this show. What they did with the blacks with dreads was hideous
everyone on the show is conventionally good looking if anything some of the actors are too conventionally good looking for their role like how haleana and post pregnancy rhaenyra are supposed to be bigger in the books
"the blacks with dreads" why the fuck would you describe them like that
This is not accurate, respectfully. No.
What dragon does daemon encounter
In the preview? It should be Vermithor (Jaehaerys' old mount) most likely. There's a chance it's the Cannibal but, either way, he's most likely looking to see if the wild dragons are approachable to get more dragons on the side of the Blacks.
vermithor
@@redfyresasoiaf In the book, we read that two of the dragon seeds turn on Rhaenyra and burn down a castle in the Reach that was on her side.
@@redfyresasoiaf yeah vermithor gets claim by a dragonseed/blackfyre aka bastard hugh hammer when they decided to allow the bastards of their blood to claim a dragon in exhange for loyalty. i think daemon being a primary one to retrieve hard to get eggs from the lairs of the dragons on dragonstone may have been trying to help claim them or seeing which dragons were claimable alot of the dragons on dragonstone were wild or had been riderless for a while.
Vermithor
This episode was terrible, and to have us believe Alicent only now wishes to place her son on the Throne because of a misunderstanding is so lame. Furthermore, Rhaenys bursts from the floor on her dragon, has the entire Green Council of traitor’s in front of her, and instead of killing them she elects to use the intimidation card and have her dragon yell at them? Yea, because that makes perfect sense. Worst episode so far, clean it up and stop trying to be better then the books so much, Hollyweird.
This episode was brilliant if you actually look further than surface level. Alicent has had her opinion warped since childhood that her children are going to die unless Aegon sits the throne. She disbelieves him at first because she loves and trusts Rhaenerya. But when Ser Criston reveals that she lied to her, Alicent starts to lean into the idea that her is corrupt. Add in some children that are bastards and all of a sudden Alicent is visibly witnessing a walking lie. Fast forward to the council meeting after Viserys dies and we see Alicent ask the group if they had been planning to usurp the throne all along. There is some disbelief, but also acceptance in her voice. For her to hear Viserys in his final moments breath out the name Aegon and pretty much spell out a situation in which Alicent misinterprets, it's all to easy to understand why Alicent accepts the idea of Aegon being king. Now to talk about Meleys and Rhaenys. She didn't want to be the factor on why a war would break out, and she felt compassion for Alicent when Alicent stepped in front of Aegon to protect him. The conversation between Alicent and her earlier brilliantly showcased the prison Alicent has found herself in. But a prison that she doesn't want to escape from. And Rhaenys had just lost her entire family. She didn't want to be the reason behind why another mother lost her family as well. It was a trade off. "I don't kill you and you spare me when this shit hits the fan" type of move. Meleys screaming at them was a reminder that Rhaenys COULD of killed them and she choose not. This episode was MARVELOUS for the interpersonal drama that was risen. If you can't see that, maybe it's just above your level of understanding lol
Whilst I definitely agree about Rhaenys stupid display, the plot with Alicent misunderstanding Viserys makes much more sense with her characterisation in the show.
Alicent in the books is a much, much darker character, and the same can be said of Rhaenyra. Ambition would be the only other logical reason, as the premise of a war to stop bastards ascending the throne would've been ridiculous; yet this Alicent lacks the ambition to follow through with the books portrayal
Bro that’s her family maybe not alicent directly but the rest are technically her nephews. Its harder for her bc she and viserys were on good terms. She would of been at the dinner had she not her other things going on. Also dragon fire ion think would even hurt them. I think fire doesn’t do nun to them.
@@leopardtree2249 yes, it does. Targaryens aren't immune to fire, George confirms this himself
@@nicoleolinger7633 well said!
Cool video but I do think that the emphasis on the "Greens' treasons" is a bit much. Aegon WAS Viscerys's first born son. And let's not forget that Alicent genuinely believed that Viscerys changed his mind about Rhaenyra before he died. She couldn't have known that the dying Viscerys thought he was talking to his daughter, so in their mind, the Greens are fulfilling the king's wish.
Not really (re, in the minds of the Green's, they believe they are fulfilling Viscery's wishes), because remember, the Greens' had plotted to install Aegon as king, WELL before Alicent believed that Viscerys had chosen him in his dying words. Even Alicent was shocked to learn they'd been plotting to overthrow Rhaenyra as Viscerys' chosen heir before she (incorrectly) declared to them the King's change of heart before his death. So, yeah, the Green faction were indeed, intent upon committing treason, and long in the act of committing treason.
I found Beesbury's death a little too fantasy for my taste, not even an old man would hit is head over the table like that if you push him down by his shoulders.
Its mother not mudder.
Its brother not brudder.
Dude..practice your "th" pronunciation...its mother/brother not "mudder/brudder"..it's so distracting
It is in Newfoundland
Helaena is now being played by a guy. Get some eyes, people. 😂
I wish the wigs were more book like
guessing this is incapable of pronouncing th da fadder lol.
Other- TH. It’s not Udder 🤦🏻
The crowns of the conqueror and jaeherys are all wrong....