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  • @onimusha950
    @onimusha950 День тому +60

    "The Reignbow Arbiter, the Plagues Author, the Ruins Author. This is a chessgame between Aeons, if you dont stand with the winners you stand to lose." -Jingliu

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme День тому +137

    The irony is that even if Lan finally eliminates Yaoshi, the Path of Abundance will still remain through the Sanctus Medicus, the Borosin and the presence of the Mara sickness. Even Preceptor Taoran especulates that the Xianzhou Alliance will become the next "enemy" of the Universe, so it won't be a shock that Lan will turn their back on the Alliance itself.

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 22 години тому +17

      You fell for Taoran's sophistry. Lan rose to Aeonhood as a counterbalance to the Abundance. You can't have infinite growth in a finite universe, the Hunt is basically population control for the undying Abundance followers. The Xianzhou Alliance is an Alliance of ex-Abundance followers who renounced the Abundance and voluntarily apply strict population limit on themselves. The fact that the Alliance exist at all is proof enough that Lan's Hunt isn't indiscriminate and have a more complex logic than just eliminating all traces of Abundance. Lan also made the distinction between Foxian and Borisin, don't forget the Galaxy Rangers who are blessed by Lan while having absolutely nothing to do with the Hunt against Abundance.
      The dialogue with Taoran highlights a cultural difference between Vidyadhara and the rest of the Xianzhou. While they are all long-lived, the Vidyadhara descended from Long, they don't have any history (and taboo) with the Abundance. While the Vidyadhara consider their ancestry as somewhat of a curse, the Alliance see a self-balancing reproduction cycle for a long-lived species. While the Alliance is fanatically committed to the Hunt against Abundance, the Vidyadhara see a wasteful war that's slowly decreasing their numbers.

    • @ForTheViolence
      @ForTheViolence 22 години тому +6

      Yeah I don’t know if Taoron is the best person to quote.

    • @mashuchan7906
      @mashuchan7906 22 години тому +1

      ​@@exu7325 lan wasnt the counter balance for yaoshi it was destruction lan was created due to the past xianzhou being greedy for eternal life. Maybe marastruck was a curse for peope who desired more made by hooh(equillebrium) because it defies the balance of life and death so to balance it it made another for of death "the death of ones self"

  • @matheusv.9330
    @matheusv.9330 День тому +36

    I don't think it's just Lan but Hooh (the equilibrium) also keeps a close eye on them so neither of them gets too strong, keeping the life and death balance intact

    • @mariachi3217
      @mariachi3217 21 годину тому +1

      I mean it’s said that paths and ideas never die so if one were to go poof hooh may intervene and ascend someone new to aeon hood. Their emanators are the closest things to embodying their path, and while the ascension may not be immediate in the scale of the HSR universe it’ll be immediate.

  • @jakeail1995
    @jakeail1995 День тому +52

    - imo why Lan haven't kill Yaoshi yet is coz 1. it not that easy for 1 aeon to kill another, just look at Tayzzy how it took many aeon help just to kill them; 2. I think Yaoshi might not be Lan true main goal since the start. And i don't think hunt is just hunt or Lan don't want to end the hunt either.
    -> i think Hunt true nature is not revenge but it about the cycle, cycle of life and death, cycle of karma. Why did Lan go after abundance monster? coz those being through Yaoshi have chosen to break away from the cycle of life and death which is unacceptable for Lan. We think hunt as something human do in human context but hunting have been thing animal do long before us, hunt and prey has always been part of cycle of life, Lan hunt philosophy is likely center around respecting this cycle of life that why undead and immortal is unforgiven to Lan.
    - Lan friendly fire have 2 reason imo: 1. when you as strong as an aeon, all mortal even emenator are ant to u, would you notice if step on one? likely not and would you also able to quickly identify which ant is your or not if you step on one? likely not as well so that Lan too strong too high to notice mortal; 2. Xianzhou alliance to Lan is no different from abundance monster as Xianzhou people mostly are from long life span to immortal people so Lan weeding both abundane monster and the xianzhou at the same time.
    - Why Yaoshi is not Lan true target even though they are the culprit that behind all the breaking of cycle of life? coz Yaoshi is an aeon and as an aeon they have escape the norm and boundary of the cycle of life so even if Lan go after Yaoshi, Lan won't kill Yaoshi coz Yaoshi is already outside of his jurisdiction

    • @s2ephantom09
      @s2ephantom09 День тому +2

      Good point🧐

    • @xenoemblem7
      @xenoemblem7 День тому +2

      And my take is that Yaoshi's existence is making Lan's have meaning, cause Yaoshi keeps making things for Lan to *hunt.*

    • @jakeail1995
      @jakeail1995 23 години тому +1

      @@xenoemblem7 a hunt without an end is not really a hunt imo so i don't think Lan care that much for having thing to hunt or not. But like i said Yaoshi is already outside of Lan jurisdiction, above mortal norm and rule so that why Lan won't kill Yaoshi, beside the fact Lan can't kill Yaoshi by themselves anyway , and it not really becoz Yaoshi give Lan meaning or something like that. i think it best to look Yaoshi and Lan relationship more like Predator and Prey, in an ecosystem Predator role is to keep prey population in check so i think that what Lan true role is

  • @RenCarl1sle
    @RenCarl1sle День тому +45

    I have a theory that is disconnected from this, but i think Aha and IX are related and they might even be paired. My idea is that Aha is that climbed the Tree of Existence and witnessed the pointlessness of everything, but rather than falling to the despair of Nihility, THEY saw a baby fall and cry, which THEY found hilarious. I see this as either a response to IX's shadow falling on Aha, or IX being born from witnessing the same void and having the opposite reaction. I could even see them ascending at the same time. If they didn't, IX would be first, which would also make Aha the ultimate Doctor of Chaos

    • @dontshitontravelermains5498
      @dontshitontravelermains5498 День тому

      I do love this theory so much! It’s kinda rare to see people linking Nihility & Elation together tbh even though Elation is legit the combination of Hedonism & Absurdism. Absurdism and Nihilism are legit almost same thing but in different side of coin!
      (Very out of topic but the two HSR OCs that I created are legit Self-Annihilator & Masked Fool lol, I would love for my manifestation to become true in official, two characters from these two factions ended become friends in the most unexpected way ever)

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard 22 години тому +1

      Elation's counterpoint is the Order which Elation killed via absorption of Harmony. Elation is basically Freedom and Selfishness.

    • @mirageknight8070
      @mirageknight8070 15 годин тому +3

      ​@@Doflaminguard Xipe killed Ena by absorbing her not Aha though it's suggested that he was a part of the scheme alongside either Qlipoth or HooH

    • @RenCarl1sle
      @RenCarl1sle 14 годин тому +4

      @Doflaminguard I understand the theory that Elation and Order are counterparts, but I doubt HooH would facilitate the assimilation of Ena into the Harmony as it would disrupt the balance of Order and Elation. I could see it being a Remembrance/Enigmata/Erudition scenario, however, as I can see all three being related while not being counterparts. What if Order was the meaningless void Aha witnessed when they climbed the Tree of Existence?

    • @w1nther930
      @w1nther930 13 годин тому +1

      I feel like that Aha is a different version of Nihility's "meaningless", which lies in a different belief. There's nihilism, but then there's also absurdism. Absurdism is a philosophical outlook that explores the contradiction between the human desire for meaning and the indifferent, chaotic nature of the universe. The life you live is irrational and sometimes devoid of true meaning/purpose, and yet it is also a free one

  • @ErisCalamitasButFR
    @ErisCalamitasButFR День тому +34

    its not really that they dont want to, but moreso that they literally cannot kill yaoshi, not because yaoshi is immortal but because doing so would likely result in Lan no longer needing to hunt, and obviously that cant happen, Lan IS the Hunt, which would then result in them needing another target, likely the IPC with their Swarm behaviour, and that may or may not be good depending on whether or not Luocha is more than just an IPC affiliate
    also this all hinges on propagation IPC being a thing and not voracity IPC cause then thats a whole different situation, anyways fun video idea i like this even tho i havent even watched it yet lol

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 День тому +10

      Nah. If Lan IS the Hunt then they won't care about themselves dying if it meant Yaoshi ends as well.
      When going on a Revenge, Prepare two graves.

    • @NecronHandlee
      @NecronHandlee День тому +3

      This would also ruin the equilibrium of the universe I would imagine
      HooH might have to step in again

    • @exoticbutters1760
      @exoticbutters1760 День тому +3

      Ngl ever since it was revealed Luocha has a fragment of Tayzzyronth's corpse in his coffin I always had a feeling that he was associated with the IPC in some way especially considering how Aventurine misled the Intelligentsia Guild into thinking Tayzzyronth's corpse was on Egyhazo when he was younger. Not to mention that stupid blue bug Ruan Mei made

    • @HealthXPotions
      @HealthXPotions День тому +1

      @@silverhawkscape2677 that line goes hard asf

    • @ForTheViolence
      @ForTheViolence 22 години тому +2

      Aeons aren’t afraid of fulfilling their purpose. In fact if they stop wanting too they will disappear, same as if they fulfilled their purpose. So all they can do is relentlessly follow their path until it’s reached it’s end.

  • @Rahochusosu
    @Rahochusosu День тому +8

    Nothing is stopping Lan from going after another target once Yaoshi is (hypothetically) killed, he is just a single target unit. Even Feixiao wants to kill a Lord Ravager now after dealing with Hoolay, next target could easily be the path of destruction.

  • @hoangnguyen0721
    @hoangnguyen0721 День тому +5

    This could be a hinting of the 3rd way to kill an Aeon that Kafka never revealed
    And with the end of 2.5,we know that Jingliu and Luocha planned to kill Yashi using the corpse of Tazzyronth
    So maybe with the 3rd time coming back to Xianzhou we would be partook in an Aeon war against Yaoshi,successfully killing it but in the process removing the meaning of existence of Lan and facing the consequences with the Alliance after the fall of Lan(either they just move on or withness the birth of a new one) with the residue of both paths allows us to gey both Hunt TB and Abundance TB

  • @huskyhd693
    @huskyhd693 День тому +11

    This is a quote from WoW: "A hunter is nothing without the hunt", which I think suit Lan really well.

  • @archerkuro4158
    @archerkuro4158 День тому +8

    My theory is after the abundance is gone lans main target will be the destruction and that’s why elio wanted us to help the alliance in the normal timeline lan is likely unable to stop fighting the abundance before the universe is destroyed
    though my guess is there will be some time in between when they know what lan wants to do next and this is where we will see the infighting between the generals be at its worst

  • @AHA-AHA-AHA-AHA
    @AHA-AHA-AHA-AHA День тому +59

    even lan can't resist that yaoshussy

  • @ashaide
    @ashaide День тому +14

    Or, The Hunt could just designate a new Prey.
    When one hunt ends, another could begin. There are other big game in the HSR universe, after all.

    • @randomdude6446
      @randomdude6446 22 години тому

      The path of the hunt was created specifically to counter the abundance so prium mobile might not allow that

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 19 годин тому

      @@randomdude6446 yaoshi is just a prey
      The path is not exist for yaoshi, yaoshi is just a target

    • @randomdude6446
      @randomdude6446 19 годин тому +1

      ​@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 The path was literally created specifically to hunt her in the backstory it's directly linked to yaoshi it's entire purpose of its creation was just that fight the abundance. It's not supposed to hunt everything it's just supposed to hunt her and her creations that's it's purpose

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 19 годин тому +1

      @@randomdude6446 the path already exist, it just wait a person become aeon of that path
      The path not exist to against anything, the natural conflict between 2 path is the conflict between 2 concept base in it nature
      In this case hunt not have natural conflict against abundance, Lan just decide yaoshi is the prey base in the hatred he have with yaoshi when he still is mortal

    • @randomdude6446
      @randomdude6446 19 годин тому

      @@vietcuongnguyenle8530 The path was created by lan when he ascended for that purpose of hunting the abundance the concept existed but the concept did not form a path until lan became an aeon

  • @itsoup455
    @itsoup455 День тому +10

    The Hunt, in-bodying the chase for vengeance, is a path that will never reach solace or peace. I don’t believe that if Lan were to slay Yaoshi and THEIR followers, that THEY would stop and find respite, THEY would just move on to the next biggest “evil”. For as heroic and valiant Lan and The Hunt might appear, THEY lead a path that only breeds more rage and resentment.

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard 22 години тому

      Its not really a problem since theres HooH that will create another Path that would counteract the Hunt. If Yaoshi dies, I'm pretty sure Ruan Mei is gonna ascend into Aeonhood with a path related to Life like Yaoshi.

  • @juniorchief5989
    @juniorchief5989 День тому +2

    Nah the hunt is eternal or at least until when hooh decides to rebalance the universe.
    Unfortunately for the alliance they are lock into an enternal war until they all die out or atleast until they no longer have ships or weapons to fight.
    And if they do kill manage to kill yaoshi, nanook and their legion exist so lan might try to target them this dragging them in to another endless war.

  • @MaksimenkoMaksimenko-er9zz
    @MaksimenkoMaksimenko-er9zz День тому +10

    If Lan kills Yaoshi, then nothing will change globally - Lan has risen in hatred of abundance and has created a path opposite to abundance. Even if the hunter kills Yaoshi, abundance will remain, albeit greatly weakened as an idea and will lose most of its danger. But the hunt will also become insignificant and local. And Lan's personal goal - to kill the Aeon of Abundance has been achieved and as a result they have no reason to be active (unless they have new personal enemies). In general, this is another Chinese symbolism: Yin and Yang. Where one cannot exist without the other. That is why if Lan achieves his revenge - Lan will simply become less active.

  • @maykiugli1435
    @maykiugli1435 День тому +19

    The Lan situation just got worse

  • @Royce0508
    @Royce0508 День тому +2

    I think that our favourite Aeon duo, Terminus and Hooh, are involved in this, like with all Aeons. Specifically, Hooh. I believe that as the Path of Equilibrium has been what guides Hooh's actions, Hooh itself guides other Aeons to ensure they maintain their Paths. As such, I believe the Path of Equilibrium only grants Hooh the power it requires for the missions it takes on, allowing Hooh to have the definite capabilities to ensure that the Paths are maintained. Unless said Aeon is terrible and has to be eradicated in which it will just work to ensure that there will be a power to stop the Aeon and Path and something to maintain Equilibrium in the aftermath. This is what's happening now. The Hunt is an eternal slaughter and the Abundance is eternal life. So, Equilibrium is ensuring both are alive so they can balance each other out

  • @dusttrap1714
    @dusttrap1714 23 години тому +2

    It IS my crazy theory about it, HEAR me out guys
    Lan the Hunt might be turning into Yaoshi the Abundance
    Brought to you by a Mythus’s follower

  • @einszweidrei486
    @einszweidrei486 9 годин тому

    What I genuinely fear is the question of "What if Lan wasn't the one who dealt the final blow to Yaoshi?". THEY basically ended up a god due to revenge and has basically been stripped of anything else, forever bound to the concept. Imagine if you basically lost everything and spent your whole life hunting the one who caused it, only for someone else to defeat them "for you". Most people would just think "ah, its over". Others would spiral out of control and go for the one who "took their kill because your target didn't die at /your/ hands

  • @AnArtistInAVoid
    @AnArtistInAVoid День тому +2

    Unrelated, but I definitely believe that Lan the Hunt in origin has nothing to do with the Xiangshou. If he did, I’m pretty sure he’d look more like Xiangshou’s aesthetic, but no, there’s nothing there.

    • @A.Singularity
      @A.Singularity 19 годин тому

      Nothing there?
      Hello?
      I love you.
      I love you.
      I love you.
      Iove you!
      I love you.

  • @supermariogamer5294
    @supermariogamer5294 День тому +4

    As far as I'm aware, Lan is out to hunt the Abominations of Abundance, not Yaoshi THEMSELVES.
    That would explain why The Hunt has never ceased, as the Aeon was never the target

  • @silverhawkscape2677
    @silverhawkscape2677 День тому +3

    Nah. Lan will kill Yaoshi. They are the incarnation of revenge. I can definitely see them vanishing once their purpose is done.

  • @w1nther930
    @w1nther930 13 годин тому

    There's this whole "aeons come in pairs", like how it's obvious that Hunt and Abudance is a pair, or that Destruction and Preservation are a pair. This is for balance to exist.
    The hunt is all about hunting, however, if you just hunted everything in the universe, it'd be too dangerous. However, kill the "abundance", which is when there is too much of something, it balances out. The Abundance keeps too many things alive at once due to the semi immortality granted, the Hunt kills them so that there will never be too much

  • @ancelotl
    @ancelotl 18 годин тому

    perhaps it is that for Lan to perpetuate its own existence it would need prey to hunt, and Yaoshi being immortal makes her the perfect prey for Lan without needing to go through the hassle of switching targets after every "successful hunt".

  • @bernardlawrence4985
    @bernardlawrence4985 19 годин тому

    Lan and yaoshi are made for each other. An aeon and path focused on persistently chasing and another aeon and path that's the personification of immortality.😅 Historians will say they were great friends or great enemies

  • @TheFangTiger
    @TheFangTiger 8 годин тому

    Plot twist: Lan and Yaoshi are actually friends and they are just playing tag

  • @Slurpdako
    @Slurpdako День тому +1

    Very enemies to lover. Very cutesy. Very demure

  • @valencrow
    @valencrow День тому

    As someone who believes the end goal for the Trailblazer is becoming an Aeon I think Lan is part of their future path. Something bigger than just exploration, or vengeance.
    Every journeys end is another’s beginning after all.

  • @ravenng4450
    @ravenng4450 20 годин тому

    As Illidan said to Maiev in Warcraft, "The Huntress is nothing without the Hunt." So if Lan actually defeated Yaoshi then what becomes of Lan?

  • @deviant315l6
    @deviant315l6 День тому +2

    only if HOOH allows it but my guy is about balance. too many rabbits hunting season, starts.

  • @felixma9192
    @felixma9192 День тому

    for Equilibrium

  • @Zetasaber
    @Zetasaber День тому

    It would make sense he's the hunt not the catch

  • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
    @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 22 години тому

    BLADEEEEEEEEEEEEEE RERUN 2.7 PLEASE HOYO HOW LONG YOU GONNA KEEP BLUE BALLING MEEEEEE

  • @Redishrat_Ch
    @Redishrat_Ch День тому

    Nice

  • @electrickzy
    @electrickzy День тому

    It feels criminal to be this early lol

  • @ryanbouye
    @ryanbouye День тому

    LAN needs to focus on nanook

  • @FaizFS3
    @FaizFS3 День тому +1

    xianzhou people will not like this theory

  • @shuvi.mn129
    @shuvi.mn129 День тому

    My suspicion on Lan is that he just looks like a larger Legion Centaur, hence friendly fire for fun with destruction as its subconscious

  • @LuquiTheFarmer
    @LuquiTheFarmer День тому +1

    Lan gave up

  • @ame-vz2ni
    @ame-vz2ni День тому

    HIIII

  • @caius.3391
    @caius.3391 День тому

    The xianzhou: THE HUNT IS WITH US!🗣🗣🏹
    Lan: nuh uh

  • @Silver-123.
    @Silver-123. День тому

    Wow! You a follower of Nihility now? Lol JK

  • @epicazeroth
    @epicazeroth День тому +1

    Lan/Yaoshi is just toxic yaoi/yuri