I loved how you explained all the aspects of assassination rogue, not just point out the things that you like! It gives room for interpretation and experimenting as one should when playing any class!
2.4K Assassination Rogue, it's good to have rupture up on all targets because it alone at full duration can get at least 15% of their HP, and it grants you more energy.
Just thought I would mention that pooling energy as mut is very important especially when lining up burst. You want to pool energy before you envenom because when you envenom you get a short buff that increases the damage of your mutilate and dispatch by 30%
As Amediias said, having rupture up on as many targets as possible is good for energy regeneration. Lately i have been using dirty tricks with glyph of gouge and its really great in my opinion. All three talents are good but i would only use prey on the weak in arenas, never in a BG (unless it's a coordinated RBG). The debuff on the target is way too short and people are often spread out in BGs so odds are you are the only one that benefits from the 10% damage buff the talent gives. So i prefer Internal bleeding or dirty tricks in BGs, but all three are of course viable.
Thanks for the guide man :D Ive been playing warrior and I decided to get into rogues just because they seem like alot of fun. Plus I LOVE ganking people XD
+Mason Steadman I was playing my alt DK the other day (horde) and a viewer on the live-stream kept queuing into me on his Ally Rogue. The ganks were real!
JUST FOR FUN: Have you ever tried shurken toss>deadly throw> dirty tricks> burst of speed with assassination? Just kite melee all day and gouge when they get to you. It's funny/fun.
Ok so, in a 1v1 situation (with elusiveness) I usually open on them put out a rupture then use my energy to keep a feint up and my next 5 combo is a recup or kidney depending on my hp%, this has been pretty effective for me. If you can, it'd be great if maybe u could also try this out and see what you think of it and lmk if you feel its viable or maybe some changes I could make to it.
Nice video man, looks great can't wait to try it out on my little rogue! Have you tried Assassination in the ptr? With the buffs it might seem to do better consistent damage?
Yea there is an easier way to set up your burst or even open in general. Regular opener i use . Cheapshot > Mut > Rupture > MFD > kidney > Vanish > envenom . This opener gets all your dots up, plus i use night stalker so that extra 60k crit plus the extra damage from poisons can add alot of pressure. Now for Burst. I do> Cheapshot > mut > Rupture > MFD > 1 Shot macro > DFA > Vanish > envenom. Just a little advice. :/
Cloud Gaming Have openers in description. Burst and Openers should be seen separately. I don't understand why Cheap shot for bust if you can score a full kindey instead. Muti spec does have ability to burst in the opener, but a good player will know to separate those two. Like a puzzle, get to know each piece separately. Then you can put them back together in more way than one.
i understand what ur saying i honestly do, but, having the energy re gen IMO is key, especially for using an ability like DFA that uses a decent amount of energy and having the extra energy when you come down from DFA. And Cheapshot in a burst because if you are initially opening on someone, and planning to burst, you get your rupture up in the cheap shot and DFA, you would be wasting alot of time of ur kidney in DFA. Plus it seems the way i do the burst is alot quicker and gives ppl less time to prepare for it, or trinket and dispersion, deterrence ect and also knowing other assassination rogues that main the spec open/burst the same way. Most people just dont vanish and env at the end, Also There is nothing about being a good player either so i kind of comes off like you taking shots at me like im not a good player ? Im honestly just saying what i do as a player, and you can ask anyone i play with it works very well, i have played assassination/sub the whole time i have been a rogue however Im not saying that im the best rogue ever because my many means im not, and adding onto that assassination is the 2nd easiest spec IMO, and the only spec that really takes a decent amount of skill anymore seems to be sub. So saying that im not a good player or inferring that off from a opener/ burst that im comfortable really is not accurate.Or if you were just making a statement, sorry. But i have my reason for how i play and you have yours which i completely accept and understand.
I was experimenting with the burst, wouldn't you get a higher burst if you set it up this way: Dps Trinket+vendetta>marked for death>kidney shot(using prey on weak talent)>vanish>death from above The death from above makes the envenom 50% stronger, so using it with the 4set bonus would wreck.
Keith Uelsmann When you use Vendeta your next Envenom (Also counts from Death From Above's Envenom Effect) is 100% crit. Makes for better burst to get out a 100% dfa then a 100% envenom afterwards. Otherwise you are losing out on potential damage.
Just wondering, in your openers for all specs video, it didn't use subterfuge it was used as cheap shot > (opener spells) | not cheap shot > ambush (etc)??
Khui a lot of times you can get more damage / utility out of your opener spells due to more damage / more utility from the opener spell and it costing less energy than a 60 energy ambush
***** You have to line up 5 cp > vendeta > envenom. That should crit. You might be building CP right after using Vendeta and that could throw off burst for Envenom.
Hello, I know you only play human, but for assassination what do you think about Night elfs? you will have another "Vanish" with shadowmeld and benefit even more from Nightstalker... what do you think?
Never vanish and use DFA. When you vanish u get 5 combopoints with the bonus set and it gives your next evenom, mutilate and ambush a 100 % crit so use Evenom ;)!
It's all in how you line up your burst. If you wait to get your mastery proc from weapons(mark of bleeding hollow), you can then activate dps trinket+vendetta>marked for death>kidney shot(if use prey on weak talent)>vanish>death from above This will give you a 120k envenom...enjoy
ok cool can you help me with something what is a good lvling class for a rogue in 6.1 im new to rogue i started playing it i find it to be fun and watching you play rogue make me want to play it even more than ever do you have any tips you can share with me i would it
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I loved how you explained all the aspects of assassination rogue, not just point out the things that you like! It gives room for interpretation and experimenting as one should when playing any class!
very nice guide, i really learned alot from it : ) love to see more stuff in the future !
Dude! Your intro is so fucking awesome! I watch it 3-4 times when I watch your videos!
2.4K Assassination Rogue, it's good to have rupture up on all targets because it alone at full duration can get at least 15% of their HP, and it grants you more energy.
Amediias Thank you for your helpful input.
Amediias rupture/kidney punch with internal bleeding... oh yes
oh baby!
+Amediias Thank you! :D I just hit 1.5k today. Been playing for about a month on my rogue now. Glad to hear great information from you :P
Nice guide man keep rollin'
cool didn't know you even played Assassination.
Thanks for this awesome guide
I dont usually like intros, but yours is just fucking perfect
Just thought I would mention that pooling energy as mut is very important especially when lining up burst. You want to pool energy before you envenom because when you envenom you get a short buff that increases the damage of your mutilate and dispatch by 30%
As Amediias said, having rupture up on as many targets as possible is good for energy regeneration. Lately i have been using dirty tricks with glyph of gouge and its really great in my opinion. All three talents are good but i would only use prey on the weak in arenas, never in a BG (unless it's a coordinated RBG). The debuff on the target is way too short and people are often spread out in BGs so odds are you are the only one that benefits from the 10% damage buff the talent gives. So i prefer Internal bleeding or dirty tricks in BGs, but all three are of course viable.
Keep up the awesome job!!
Thx
Thanks for the guide man :D Ive been playing warrior and I decided to get into rogues just because they seem like alot of fun. Plus I LOVE ganking people XD
+Mason Steadman I was playing my alt DK the other day (horde) and a viewer on the live-stream kept queuing into me on his Ally Rogue. The ganks were real!
when inm looking for rogue guides im not even searching for another chanel but yours ;) you should make guides for other classes
JUST FOR FUN: Have you ever tried shurken toss>deadly throw> dirty tricks> burst of speed with assassination? Just kite melee all day and gouge when they get to you. It's funny/fun.
Ok so, in a 1v1 situation (with elusiveness) I usually open on them put out a rupture then use my energy to keep a feint up and my next 5 combo is a recup or kidney depending on my hp%, this has been pretty effective for me. If you can, it'd be great if maybe u could also try this out and see what you think of it and lmk if you feel its viable or maybe some changes I could make to it.
Jacob Jordan I put full recup only when I need to heal for a long period of a fight. It all depends since its so situation.
Nice video man, looks great can't wait to try it out on my little rogue! Have you tried Assassination in the ptr? With the buffs it might seem to do better consistent damage?
Yea there is an easier way to set up your burst or even open in general. Regular opener i use . Cheapshot > Mut > Rupture > MFD > kidney > Vanish > envenom . This opener gets all your dots up, plus i use night stalker so that extra 60k crit plus the extra damage from poisons can add alot of pressure. Now for Burst. I do> Cheapshot > mut > Rupture > MFD > 1 Shot macro > DFA > Vanish > envenom. Just a little advice. :/
Cloud Gaming Have openers in description. Burst and Openers should be seen separately. I don't understand why Cheap shot for bust if you can score a full kindey instead. Muti spec does have ability to burst in the opener, but a good player will know to separate those two. Like a puzzle, get to know each piece separately. Then you can put them back together in more way than one.
i understand what ur saying i honestly do, but, having the energy re gen IMO is key, especially for using an ability like DFA that uses a decent amount of energy and having the extra energy when you come down from DFA. And Cheapshot in a burst because if you are initially opening on someone, and planning to burst, you get your rupture up in the cheap shot and DFA, you would be wasting alot of time of ur kidney in DFA. Plus it seems the way i do the burst is alot quicker and gives ppl less time to prepare for it, or trinket and dispersion, deterrence ect and also knowing other assassination rogues that main the spec open/burst the same way. Most people just dont vanish and env at the end, Also There is nothing about being a good player either so i kind of comes off like you taking shots at me like im not a good player ? Im honestly just saying what i do as a player, and you can ask anyone i play with it works very well, i have played assassination/sub the whole time i have been a rogue however Im not saying that im the best rogue ever because my many means im not, and adding onto that assassination is the 2nd easiest spec IMO, and the only spec that really takes a decent amount of skill anymore seems to be sub. So saying that im not a good player or inferring that off from a opener/ burst that im comfortable really is not accurate.Or if you were just making a statement, sorry. But i have my reason for how i play and you have yours which i completely accept and understand.
Dalaran Gaming or you could not answer back lmao
Either I'm blind or it isn't there.. but I don't see the Addon List in the description D:
sooo 6.2 has hit and combat appears to not be pulling its weight as much as 6.1?
Great! So this patch u would be an assassination rogue? my BM hunter friend told me that assassination rogue cheap shot only 4.5s, then he dead...god
I was experimenting with the burst, wouldn't you get a higher burst if you set it up this way:
Dps Trinket+vendetta>marked for death>kidney shot(using prey on weak talent)>vanish>death from above
The death from above makes the envenom 50% stronger, so using it with the 4set bonus would wreck.
Keith Uelsmann When you use Vendeta your next Envenom (Also counts from Death From Above's Envenom Effect) is 100% crit. Makes for better burst to get out a 100% dfa then a 100% envenom afterwards. Otherwise you are losing out on potential damage.
Thanks man!
Just wondering, in your openers for all specs video, it didn't use subterfuge it was used as cheap shot > (opener spells) | not cheap shot > ambush (etc)??
Khui a lot of times you can get more damage / utility out of your opener spells due to more damage / more utility from the opener spell and it costing less energy than a 60 energy ambush
Pic reminded me of GW:factions assassin :3
Plz song 0:02
nice gudei! ;)
Thanks
great guide! what daggers are you using for transmog they look great.
I dont think thats a tmog
What is better combat rogue or assassin?
May you please tell me what Xmog this is?
Why my envenon don't crit before i used vendetta with 5 combo points ?! Every time.. don't crit why ?
***** You have to line up 5 cp > vendeta > envenom. That should crit. You might be building CP right after using Vendeta and that could throw off burst for Envenom.
Hello, I know you only play human, but for assassination what do you think about Night elfs? you will have another "Vanish" with shadowmeld and benefit even more from Nightstalker... what do you think?
Might take practice. Need to be playing like a top tier player to not grab 10% as a human.
Yeah that ia True. But I guess racials wont mind that much for The next expansion, thoghts on that? :D
+Vamp ire I love it
Do I always wanna keep slice and dice up? Or am I not using it at all?
***** It becomes a passive for Assassination Rogues after leveling through WoD.
Your gudie is the best :3
why do rogues not using slice and dice anymore? is there something I missed?
banmia suadi Slice and Dice is passive for assassination rogues now
Matt Gresswell lol it still costs 25 energy..? I dont get it :P
banmia suadi You get some "enhances" lv 92,94,96,98 which 94 makes your slice and dice passive
banmia suadi Lvl 96 makes Slice and Dice a passive move.
+Ryan Bell I think the levels at wich u get perks are randomized.
which spec is better in order in pop? assassin or combat or sub? (i know you will tell me it depends on skills and... just give me the answer)
ountalaga depends :)
Wouldn't it be better for the burst to Vanish then DFA instead of envenom?
Zoova Ado No because if you use Nightstalker, the effect is applied only on the AoE effect.
Filocre Pandastic but without nightstalker it would be better?
Never vanish and use DFA. When you vanish u get 5 combopoints with the bonus set and it gives your next evenom, mutilate and ambush a 100 % crit so use Evenom ;)!
Sjakiel Rameswar Nah, you're wrong. The DFA is actually a ENHANCED version of Envenom.
Filocre Pandastic lol, look at your bonus set it says exatcly it gives your next evenom, mutilate and ambush a 100 % crit. and not a DFA crit.
If you do this in the future, stop moving around the talents so quickly. Stay on the talent for a reasonable amount of time for people to read.
+George Galang Why be here if u don't even play rogue >.
Does anybody know how he crits for 100k? I only crit 50k with dfa
It's all in how you line up your burst. If you wait to get your mastery proc from weapons(mark of bleeding hollow), you can then activate dps trinket+vendetta>marked for death>kidney shot(if use prey on weak talent)>vanish>death from above
This will give you a 120k envenom...enjoy
can you do a video on a fire mage
Amit Sultan I don't play a mage though
ok cool can you help me with something what is a good lvling class for a rogue in 6.1 im new to rogue i started playing it i find it to be fun and watching you play rogue make me want to play it even more than ever do you have any tips you can share with me i would it
So what about enchants? For gear and daggers?
Malcolm Bearden Mastery.
No I need names for the enchants on the gear and daggers. I know mastery is a stat I need in my gear.
Oh I think your saying I need mastery enchants. Would you know the names of the enchants?
Malcolm Bearden Mark of Bleeding Hollow
Thank you victor I assume those are for the gear pieces? Is it the same for the daggers?
Do you think slice & dice is usefull?
armagedoc66 Its a passive.
Dalaran Gaming how O_o ? dont you still activate the skill?
Dalaran Gaming ah improved SnD, ok found it:p thanks :)
Hi! Won't you please fix the title of your video to make it consistent throughout - Assassination not Combat? :D
Dominique Echard Fixed.
Yay! Love your videos and appreciate what you do. Used to roll Frost Mage and am learning how to PvP with my Rogue now. You've helped a lot.
plz put the songs name on your video or desc like cmon dude
Nice GW thumbnail
Guiide in title
thanks for the gudei =) just joking i know its a typo :P
Half this video was about talents fucking waste of time I can figure that out lol