Realms Beyond the Known World: Dragons of Kaimere | Speculative Evolution Creature Design
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- On an island chain far beyond the known world, the top predators are not dinosaurs, but winged and venomous beasts: dragons. They were once conventional predators, but a history of domestication then release made for outsized feral hunters who rule the islands without challenge.
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Here be dragons. No fantasy is truly complete without Dragons in some shape or form.
Agreed
Indeed.
Yesss
Facts bro! Facts!
Indeed and agreed
These dragons do a good job of looking very dragon while also not looking like any dragon ive seen, other than the upper sizes they are also rather grounded creatures. I also do like Kaimere's more fantasy aspects as they are on the more grounded side yet still feel mysterious and magical as if the branch of science is still in its infancy.
Thank you so much! I've always liked the tone of science with a lot of uncertainty and wonder
@@TalesofKaimere Yeah the fact much of the world is basically a mystery helps too, I mean the highly landlocked areas with no water access and great distance from the assembly or especially isolated islands are bound to have some weird stuff.
Our isolated areas have things like blue tarantulas that live in colonies as well as caring for and feeding their young or a population of seals that are somehow about as far away from the ocean as is possible and we dont know how they got there. If earth has these then this land has some weird things id imagine.
@marshalmarrs3269 I've shown a couple but there's certainly more to show eventually
@marshalmarrs3269 No would be entirely different clades. Some will be revealed when I publish the next short story but I don't have any topics to which they would be relevant to make before that.
In stories with dragon riders I have always viewed dragons almost as weapons of mass destruction. In a situation like this where they are available for those ambitious or stupid enough to seek them, somebody will inevitably succeed in bonding with one. Depending on who that is, the islands could have a new hero or a tyrant. Regardless, the riders return would absolutely have impacts on Kaimere as a whole
Here be the Mother of Dragons.
The part where the baby dragon attacks it immediately cut from their screaming to a Reese’s ad 😂💀
Fantastic episode! It’s always awesome to hear more on the Permian islands and especially Kaimerian Dragons. Their more mammalian design is very unique and fascinating to behold.
I must say, I absolutely adore the basal therapsid/synapsid take in your dragons! I've felt before that the ears, fur, and horns of many Medieval dragon designs would make them more aligned to synapsids than reptiles, and these derived therocephalians take the cake for me as the most unique spec evo dragons I've seen yet!
I'd definitely want to be a dragon rider with these guys (maybe a tricolor or dun morph).
Heck yeah thanks! They checked all the boxes I wanted to have with a blend of mammalian and reptilian traits.
Definitely agree. This is one of the best takes on the weirdness that dragons are.
Asian, wingless dragons definitely seem to have that therapsid look. It’s cool to see the winged version of that too.
Reptiles and Synapsids can steal each body structures, like reptiles can have hairs or Synapsids have hollow bones are a result of regeneration against osteoporosis.
I watched the Permian Island video before this one, it was a good decision. Overall, an amazing revisit to these great non dinosaur predators. Truely a great take on a common fantasy element made in a realistic manner. I do wonder though if there were any attempts by the old Dragon Rider dynasty that ruled the islands to use boats to help carry them off the island. Akin to what munarak did with Paleoloxodon. Also shame what happened with Tamale, if it had been done with a younger dragon it may have ended better..
2024 Year of the Dragon seems like a great new year for Kaimere.
There are no records of them expanding beyond the islands. Though they did have seaworthy ships and were in contact with the predecessors of the Great Library, it seems there wasn't initiative to expand beyond their territory, perhaps due to the high demands of their dragons preventing such a voyage. Getting to the known world could take 6 months to a year by ship, and that's a LOT of food you would need to have on reserve for even one war dragon.
So dragons are actually permian reptiles? Whoa!!
the modern-day dragon riders. I remember when you released your Permian island vid onto the channel and first mentioned the dragons and that at least Dragon Rider still exists. it's amazing to see a dedicated video for the dragons! wonder if the person riding that man-eater will one day end up becoming a historical figure equivalent to the conqueror who used mammoths.
Absolutely!
@@TalesofKaimere if in whatever realm he carves out eventually, the practice of dragon-riding is generally established, the rest of the world better hope they don't figure out the equivalent of the aircraft carrier...
That's what you would call an invasive species!
Tamale: Throws a tantrum
Humans: "It was a massacre!"
I’m a week late, but dragons being basal therapsids? You know, organisms that sort of look half-synapsid, half-sauropsid? Simply put, that’s absolutely genius. I admire your creativity Mr. Taylor. Also - the design for Blackmane is very, very cool.
Thanks so much!!
This is probably one of the most well thought out, diverse and interesting fictional worlds I’ve ever seen, I can’t even think of any blockbuster fictional worlds as well thought out and diverse as this one. Amazing job!
Thank you so much!
The mammalian dragons are super cool! I really like the spitting venom to replace spitting fire
Thanks! Lot of old European dragons spit fire instead of venom and I thought it was fun to harken back to those older inspirations
Mammals? Hmm... And Donkey has more chances)
I can already tell this is gonna be AMAZING!!! Haven’t commented in awhile Keenan but your work continues to inspire and astound. The dragons of Priad are highly derived Azdarchids
Much appreciated!
@@TalesofKaimereI have also finally figured out how to do my second species of dragons, which are descended from Ambopteryx!
I love how you make and your magic system realistic and how you put your own twist on these creatures
Thank you!
I love the mammalian dragons so much especially from the front I wounder how intelligent they are doubt a whole civilization still it's interesting
They're only sophont with a rider but even wild they're fairly intelligent. I'd say comparable to very intelligent dogs
@@TalesofKaimere ah alright I've read a book series called wings of fire when a bit ago and it's made me like the idea of sophont dragons if your not familiar basically humans are known as scavengers and various dragon tribes dominate most of the world nice concept the books are meant for kids but surprisingly dark lol
@@lorcanmcloughlin3686 It'd be so cool if a Spec-Evo artist tackled the Wings of Fire dragons.
Just imagine these dragons meeting other speculative biology dragons from other artists
Great to learn more about these Synapsid Dragons. Lets hope no one is crazy enough to bring them to the mainland.
Imagine the agriculture you'd need to support a fleet of war dragons. And with the limited arable land on an island chain, I wouldn't be surprised if the dragon riding dynasty had an iron grip on land usage. A good reason to overthrow them, if you're a farmer.
That is a rather acute observation. Seems like they had a clamp on just about everything in their society. Given Tamale’s behavior, there appears to be an unknown factor in keeping the dragons tame. Wouldn’t be surprised if the secret getting out was apart of their downfall, only to be forgotten after everything fell apart.
Now I want to seen a dragon wrestle with a titanosaur or kakujura. Also it would be interesting to see if the merfolk could possibly bond with kakujura in the same way (probably only the females since they are smaller)
Dragons got almost nothing on a full grown titan, I’d be surprised if the venom did much given their size and archosaurian decent. They are just simply to big for the dragon to actually harm with teeth and fang. Since dragons are capable of flight means they have to be lightweight. An Uktan at full size can weigh over 8 tons, don’t think it is really much of a fight here.
I once saw medieval drawings of dragons with mammalian ears and nostrils (even crocodiles were drawn this way). And also in a 17th-century Polish book, in a fragment about the fauna of Africa, the author described, next to leopards and lions, poisonous furry dragons that hunt elephants and cool their gigantic bodies in rivers and lakes. Of course, this inspired me.
And I tried this style of drawing dragons but... it wasn't the best XD. At least at start, now i'm doing little better. I'm glad I can witness such beautiful art in this dark age like style (:
And as a man pretty interested in natural world, i can say that you did an exelent work about ecology of this mighty beasts. Keep it up
I love the interesting take on these classic fantasy beasts. The reptiles didn’t evolve these features but rather the underrated and spotlight deserving therapsids.
That was a really good episode and dive into the biology and ecology of one of the most iconic, despite being very far from the Known World unlike most of the others famous kaimeran incons, creature of Tales of Kaimere !
Even better considering your dragons are likely the most realistic and pausible over all the ones ever imagined by people even with a real-scientific base.
And also because Kaimeran Dragons fit most if not all the things that a dragon need to be to be regarded as such.
1 - They have 4 limbs, including 2 wings and 2 tails (making it more precisely Wyverns, which it nice and good to have this category of (true) dragons in the front of the scene with great awesomeness and having the star, since this specific kind is undeservedly mocked by people), as all Tetrapods should have.
2 - Are more or less a kind of reptiles (or which came the closer to them) than any others animals on Earth or Kaimere which reach the same appearance (Pterosaurs of course must be regarded as a kind of dragons by kaimeran but don't breath venom/"fire". And the First Dragons from the First Dynasty era aren't tetrapods and reptiles at all).
3 - And breath a fire-like element that they use to kill or defend themselves.
Kaimeran Dragons fit these 3 points to be considered as real and true dragons and as a plausible and realistic animals as biology can do within its realm of possibility !
Which I think is what made a good part of their popularity and charisma among people.
Thanks!
Spectacular episode.
I have to admit, Kaimere's Dragons are definitely the most terrifying of beasts, right after the Moørkutlot.
And of course humans have to, once again, mess up royally!
But the one question I have is....
What if, and this is a Huge one, what if they traveled to the Polar continent? Would they thrive or would they die of starvation?
Thank you! They would probably struggle to find sufficient food and endure the cold.
@@TalesofKaimere You are always welcome.
Oh I see. While I wonder what lives there, I think that question can wait.
But also, one of the questions that makes me wonder if they managed to travel to other lands, the Theropods and the Bokudo wouldn't cause their extinction?
Then again, I find the fact they're restricted in the archipelago is the best outcome to be totally honest.
As this beast combined all the worst traits and most destructive potential of all the dangers of Kaimere.
So yeah.
But it also makes me wonder if there exist any monstrously sized Marine Therapsid?
Then again, Kaimere is one amazing project with a lot of questions and mysteries that surrounds it and makes our imagination run wild.
The silent ones
@@marcuscole1994 Yes. The architects of silence are by far the most terrifying animals of Kaimere for more reason than one. One is probably not that invincible, but a swarm? Good luck with that....
And Dragons are the second most terrifying animal, for they can both fly and spit a deadly venom....
Then the Theropods and the Entelodonts.
Then again, no matter where it's a very dangerous planet.
@@alghoulaj7172 how do humans survive on this planet
you know i had always wanted to ask if there is even a slight possibility that the kaimerean magic managed to transport some of skull islands fauna into kaimere
Or Skull Island was a First Children facility (their version of an InGen island theme park habitat) set up on Earth that was then abandoned....
@@TedShatner10That sounds like a great premise for a crossover fanfic.
Man I love the Dragon O’ War design, it’s like a flying Uktan!
You deserve way more recognition for your work! This is probably one of, if not the most in-depth and detailed speculative biology and worldbuilding projects I’ve ever seen! Keep on doing what you’re doing!
Thanks so much!!
Basically like How to Train Your Dragon in a realistic way mixed with the epic drama of House Targaryen and with a greater base of development and speculative evolution through the approximation of the Permian period...I SIMPLY LOVE IT!!!
And HAPPY DRAGON YEAR DAY TOO!!! DRAGONS RULES!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
some wonderful designs here, love the world and the creatures within it.
Thank you! Cheers!
Dragons, wow!
I love how much detail you go into about the dragons anatomy and behavior, it really makes them feel more like real animals. Also rest in piece giant war dragons and the original wild dragons you will be missed.
RIP indeed. The largest dragons probably couldn't even fly without additional enchantments from their witches so didn't stand much of a chance on their own
"Here be Dragons!"
Looking at their head structure, a part of me would like to think that there's at least an off branch family of dragons that became very similar to the Chinese dragon and at least one representative of this group as able to reach to the furtherest and remote part of the main continent via rafts of vegetation.
This is one of the most awesome dragons videos i´ve see, great job.
Thank you!
Love your take on one of the most common creatures in fantasy and mythology. Would someone with a dragon rider magic strain have a better chance of bonding a dragon than a regular witch strain?
Thanks! And most likely as that lineage of magic is part of what created the domesticated lineage, though theoretically any witch could make the bond if they sufficiently specialized. As Maria learned, it takes a lot more than a simple spell of friendliness.
Prefect choice for the year of the dragon.Sidenote I know the bred bulls have air sacks and hollow bones but I still feel it's too big to fly.I might be wrong tho.I'm also designing my own dragon and like yours mine are not the usual choice, shuotheriidae is the family they're part of.Also is the thumbnail a piece for the novel and question how heavy could the dragons get without air sacks and hollow bones.
Minor clarification: it was probably not breeding them to have air sacs, but incorporating anatomy-altering magic. But yes certainly too large to fly without special breeding and enhancements. There's good reason the largest domesticates died off quick, and it wasn't just that they couldn't find enough food. I don't want to state too many of the reasons why as the Assembly doesn't know and I am trying to stick to their knowledge, but there's a bit more at play than I've said in this episode
Well folks, we got the dragon. Now all we need is a dogma and we will have a kickass Kaimere video game.
Synapsid dragons are such a unique concept glad you thought of this. You have a wonderful imagination.
Thank you!
@@TalesofKaimere also how was it mechanically possible for 10 ton dragons to fly?
@@YaBoiDREX Pneumaticity and low-density gas
Finally got around to watching this! Excellent episode and such a cool take on dragons
Honestly i want a fantasy dragon documentary because of this
Would be neat!
Very original ancestry for these dragons, I love the designs too.
Thank you! Cheers!
Not only would this world be an amazing roleplay setting, but it would also make a mind blowing book, personally i'd put it between The Ecology of Skull Island and The Wildlife of Star Wars (illustrated by Teryl Whyitlatch). Nice one
I already liked this interpretation of dragons after the Permian Islands video, but this just sent them up to perhaps my favorite interpretation of them! Absolutely fantastic stuff, Keenan!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! I’m really enjoying expanding upon them for their story
@@TalesofKaimere And it shows! There's clearly passion behind everything you make!
Indeed, since this year is the Dragon Year in the Chinese Calendar, this episode was pretty fitting and on time for this event !
Otherwise, it would have been to wait 12 another years to have the Dragon year again if this episode have missed the date XD !
Dragons! I have loved these guys since I was a kid watching The Flight of Dragons.
This was yet another interesting video, but I do have three questions:
1) What is the relationship of the Mud-Bear to the Renzhuyo? Or is it in its own lineage of land-based hyaenodonts? (Never really said last video, so I was left wondering.)
2) Unrelated to this video, now that the Byamdan is a dinomyid, what does this mean for the similar-looking animal found in Kaishel? (Or is it now just a multituberculate that just appears similar through convergent evolution?
3) Assuming the History of Proboscideans of Kaimere video was meant to finally put a concrete time-frame of Post-Dynastic Extinction Harvests (or at least most of them, excluding the Mercantile Age, if it can even be considered as such given its brief occurrence, but could be argued as such considering the amount and types of fauna introduced to Kaimere during this time), my question is that, like with the First Cenozoic South American Harvest, why wasn't there a brief mention for the South Pacific Harvest of 7 million years ago, or was it simply forgotten/removed from canon? (Also, following up on the First Cenozoic South American Harvest, despite the spread of gomphotheres, wouldn't they get hunted by the Terror Birds that arrived through from the First Cenozoic South American Harvest, even for a brief time, considering they went extinct after the harvest? (Also, since Kaimere was mostly a jungle, assuming the northernmost point of the Harvest reached Southern Venezuela, wouldn't Sebecids and Astrapotheres bring some issue to Kaimere's first Gomphotheres, especially considering both were used to jungle as well?)
Also, not a question, but some advice: If it helps, maybe a few searches on Wikipedia or something similar could help with explaining animals in future harvest, clade, or "Beyond the Known World" episodes. You know, just so you don't feel like you need to cram so much studying in a short time frame? (Also, speaking of which, while the Ballad of Ka' Hai video was nice, I can't help but feel like it was exhausting to make, and as such, I'm okay if you decided to take a break sometime in the year.)
Again, this was an interesting video. Nice to see you improving your video quality with Kaimere, especially with how in-depth many episodes are. (Though, in my opinion, a slightly bigger time-frame between episodes could be helpful in both giving mental breaks and in having more time to study and be able to go more in-depth with topics. Also, you don't have to restrict episodes to a specific time-frame of Tuesdays at 7am PST. If you feel an episode is going to take longer to make or release, then I say that you go ahead and take the time you need. Do not feel pressured to releaseon a specificday at a specific time. Even some other high-quality UA-camrs I know, such as Dr. Polaris and Paleo-nerd, or even high quality non-paleo UA-camrs, such as The Unlucky Tug and Trampy, will admit that they need to delay videos due to circumstances and won't be able to release videos on a set schedule, so in that aspect, it's okay if you want to sometimes as well. Trust me, as a fellow worldbuilder, it is mentally exhausting, and as an author, I can imagine that in your case, it is definitely more so. Again, interesting video, and like the improvements in your videos recently. (Though on that note, personally (and I mean the following WITHOUT sponsorships, as I feel that once the whole planet of Kaimere is covered, rather than returning to locations beyond ths Known World, the rest of your audience will want to look past Kaimere's atmosphere to the stars, whereas people like me who do want more videos on locations in Kaimere woupd be ignored due to sponsors paying for topics), I think some of your past videos could definitely do with a remake of some sort, mainly the early Harvest Videos (except for the two videos explaining the portal, unless you feel that the Whistling Door video and Interrupted Harvest video could be combined together and even updated, since they seemingly cover the height of the First Children before they made Homunculi), some of the early videos on animals found in Kaimere (as they mostly focus on the Known World or still call Kairul the Eastern Continent, or even only focus on modern taxa or only on animals unique to Kaimere), and even the early videos on Kaimerans, as those still call them a separate species from Homo sapiens rather than a subspecies.)
Other than that, interesting video, and I'll see you next week for the Gurkan (ngl, very excited for this episode as, next to sauropods, hadrosaurs are some of my favorite herbivorous dinosaurs and some of my favorite dinosaurs in general. Plus, the area between the Known World and Kairul does need to be fleshed out more since we know next to nothing of it besides some rumored relics, the Ushalek forest, and a vague mention of the arid area that goes across the equator and connects Kairul to Ni'khar).
God these dragons look so cool! I wonder what would happen if these dragons were brought to Earth?
In some places they might do quite well. They'd need game in abundance in open spaces, so domesticated animals would be their initial target
@@TalesofKaimere I would imagine Africa specifically the Savannah would be a decent place for them or maybe the Rocky mountains of the US.
Oh, seems like we are eating good today!
How were wild dragons able to obtain large pterosaur sizes despite not having air sacs and hollow bones? The largest synapsids with powered flight are bats which just grew wingspans between 5 and 6 ft at biggest (even though they have different body proportions from therocephalian dragons).
My assumption is they have been modified significantly by the Witch Kings. They can use all four of their limbs unlike birds, which is helpful for take off. I’m kind of spit balling here, but I would think the large individuals inherited some of the magic size enhancements from the witch kings, and magic is someway involved in getting their 3 ton weight off the ground. Nothing extreme by magic standards, but flying animals don’t normally reach a ton in weight, let alone 4. The wild ancestors were probably about as big they would get on their own while staying robust.
Only through modification by their domesticators
@@TalesofKaimere I'm talking about wild dragons before the domestication and magic process. You said that they had wingspans exceeding 30 ft on their own during the Warring Clades Period. How did they obtain such sizes while the largest synapsids with powered flight, bats, just had wingspans 6-5 times shorter?
@@ryanchen1819I’d imagine it would have to do with the fact that they can use all fours like pterosaurs, meaning they have a higher weight threshold than birds. In terms of bats, I’d say it has more to do with the fact that birds haven’t given bats enough of an opening to grow large rather than an inherent problem with the synapsid body plan. Also keep in mind these are not Cynodont decedents like bats.
This is interesting!
My spec evo dragons evolved from monitor lizards, similarly to Mosasaurs.
I dig it!
One of the most unique takes on dragons I ever seen.
Thank you!
I would love to see a video explaining the Great library in depth ❤👍
I would love to do one! That and the Assembly are both long overdue
Until this episode I didn't fully appreciate how well designed the dragons are. Their ontogeny really does reflect that they're part of the roo hog branch and the concept of an entire species of domesticated man-eaters that got loose is a very original take.
1. Are cynodont herbivores a new thing? If so, are they similar to our mammalian herbivores like deer or more out there?
2. Did the witch kings elevate dragons to sophonce during their time?
3. What does halifel signify in their species name?
4. I don't believe you've ever elaborated on exactly how it affects archosaurs. If a Stallion Bird or a Sloth Croc took a full blast, what exactly would happen to them?
Thank you! While there are certainly wild man-eaters, most wolves being responsible for wolf attacks being at least part dog was a pretty big inspiration there. An animal with very predatory instincts mixed with something comfortable around people seemed the perfect recipe for a species with many notorious man-eaters.
1. It was a concept I had for the Permian Island episode but I didn't get a chance to draw them, and unfortunately I didn't have an opportunity here either. They won't be as derived as deer, but one species is probably going to be the mounted domesticates I described in the short story. Might have those be eborfeltherians though. Still got to work all that out.
2. Only through the mental connections to their riders. Feral dragon intelligence is more comparable to a very intelligent dog. Still very smart, just not sapient.
3. Honestly I don't recall. Was before I started writing down the translations. Probably has Latin or Ancient Greek roots but it's an old name from five or six years ago and I don't remember the translation.
4. There's a degree of mild corrosiveness that would impact them, and while it might blind or impair vision, it's not going to be particularly debilitating
Truly amazing, mate! I like how these dragons look like a mixture between European and Asian dragons. What if someone attempted to rebuild the civilization of dragon-riders on the islands? A dragon mount would be a dangerous war machine indeed.
Many have tried!
And I'm assuming that they all either fell off or got eaten?@@TalesofKaimere
Now you have everything to make an RPG on Kaimere
It’s on the (albeit down the road) agenda!
Awesome! Happy Dragon Day! I gotta say, this took me by surprise, and the telling of the tale of Tamale gave me a jump-scare. The music you chose sounds like it belongs in Game of Thrones or something. Anyway, the video is great and enjoyable. Dragons rule!
Heck yeah dragons are awesome!
Good episode!
I can only imagine what would happen to the ecosystem of these boys were in the known world. Not even an uktan or titan could survive getting sprayed with venom.
Well where there be dragons there be dragon hunters. A light story on a possible dragon hunter. There once was a man with a defect that that had a large nose. He was an inventive person who had a decent knowledge of venom. One day after a dragon attack he decided to do something about it. The man built a trap cave big enough for the dragon and made himself the bait. One day a dragon found the man running to the cave an fallowed him inside. The trap was sprung and the beast layed slain do to a spiked pit trap and low spike ceiling. The animal had unleashed the venom but due to primative fansfunneling it out the carved chimnies at the back on the cave.
A couple of rewrites here. The cave was originally a grain and spice storage. The man had replaced the grain with chaff and dust along with spears hidden within the piles. The dragon chased him in and spiked itself while running over the grain kicking up dust and chaff. Meanwhile the meal on legs laughed out the small back entrance, emptied a bag of dust, threw a blazing torch in, and sealed the exit. The torch ignited the dust and chaff. The beast started to burn but along with the chaff was a mix of powders that made it hard to breathe. The back door then opened sealing its fate for the air fed the flames like bellows in a forge.
Great video! I wasn't really a fan of the idea at first (seemed a bit too much like a fantasy specification), but your way of developing and enriching these "dragons" not only biologically and ethologically but also historically still manage to make them feel real for me
Other than that, I had a few questions that didn't receive a response some while ago so I thought I'd ask them again now that some time has passed: I don't know if you already elaborated on that, but is there an explanation for how magic developed such a peculiar way of enriching and diversifying its environment? And how are they able to survive and endure long travels into space? Why did they "choose" to walk down that path instead of, for instance, evolving into more complex lifeforms (multicellular organisms or protozoan colonies - even though I know there are such lifeforms in Kaishel, my question is why did they let down that path on a worldwide scale?)
Your dragon are very unusual and like it.
Thanks!
Okay now I would like to see a video about the life perspective of a dragon. Just like the video for the Uktan which was great btw.
Very well done Keenan it really wonderful to learn more about kaimere's past from beyond the known world, you bet I be getting both songs of the inland sea and cries from beyond the known world, and also I will finish the bestiary I started to do, and I will show you, the project
Dragon vs uktan will bee amazing 😍😍🤩
Excellent episode. I really loved it. Dragons are really special, glad Kaimere has them. Quick question When will the Crocodiles of Kaimere episode drop ??
Thank you! Don't have a date yet as I'm hoping to add an episode or two to the three I already have and hopefully make a series like I did for proboscideans.
@@TalesofKaimere Just to clarify cause I saw this comment when you say Crocodiles of Kaimere are you referring specifically only to true crocodiles of the family Crocodylidae, the order Crocodilia which includes all living crocodillians, or the clade Crocodylomorpha that includes all those strange extinct forms
@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster At present, we just have a crocodilia sponsor and a couple species focals. Will see if I can get a more robust lens with more sponsors. Time will tell.
I would definitely ride one of the kaimere dragons .
I really like your dragons and I would like to ask if you took inspiration from Michael Moorcock's work Elric of Melnibone in designing them. As your dragons shows alot of similarities to Moorcock's interpretation of dragons; ie large tusk protrusion, spraying corrosive venom and are connected to a civilization of witch kings.
Thank you! I've not heard of that series I'll have to check them out!
Blackmane: You are forsaken! No help will come! You will burn!
To be honest, if this dude manage to become new ruler of at least one of the islands, he needs to be named (his name) the Insane, because no normal man would try to tame adult, man-eating predator of this size.
Love the subtly Targaryen-influenced soundtrack
Makes you wonder what other Magically-altered and bred animals are out there.
Definitely my favorite dragons in media! Along with King Ghidorah.... I should craft a hybrid between the two in the future!!
Awesome episode
Thanks!
Man I would love to be a big game hunter riding a dragon hunting Dinosaurs here
I looking to run a future DnD session using Kaimere as the setting. By any chances are there maps you made that use the Köppen Climate Classification or show any other details of settlements or locations for the Permian Islands like your nicely done maps of the Known World?
Yes he did in one of his videos. ua-cam.com/video/vJwhSxcs4nQ/v-deo.htmlsi=1Ivl2m6Sixu3TKWU
Moral of the story of Tamale: If a dragon wants jerky, you give it the f*cking jerky.
Where the Titans Crows that inhabited the Island any different from the Arvelith Species?
I wound not be surprised if they used a significant amount of magic to modify the Therapsid body plan to be able to lift over 4 tons off the ground, let alone 10 (although their is no guarantee they actually flew given all we have are the bones). While not as proficient as the first children, they may have found ways to make them lighter than they could probably adapt themselves.
I’ve recently got a hold of your books, my favorite is probably Trickster’s Gambit, followed closely by Grandmother’s Roots and Tempered In Ash And Blood. Sprint of the Sea Snake and the dragon rider story have me excited for your third.
Incredible video and a quick question How long is the average lifespans of a dragon?
They can often live into their 50's. While capable of living much longer, the moment they start to decline, they are usually killed.
@@TalesofKaimere thanks for the answer :)
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Hi Keenan,
I remember back when the Permian Continent video released you said you wish you'd considered when colour vision evolved in synapsids, since you gave the dicynodonts vibrant colours and patterns, but your therocephalians look kinda drab by comparison.
Did you ever consider redesigning the eborfeltherians to be more brightly coloured while working on this episode?
I considered it but didn’t have time. I worked it into the dicynodonts. Some dragons have brighter colors which Shiny Gander captured well, but at the end of the day their ancestors were grey predators so not as playful a palate as some Eborfeltheria I’d like to make
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Very beautiful, these dragons are. Do populations of their original wild size survive in decent numbers still? perhaps benefitting from lesser caloric demands and ease of flight?
Yes, especially in the south most dragons aren't much larger than their wild ancestors. As I mentioned, there's definitely an advantage to large size so it is selected for especially in males, yet the smaller ones need a lot less food.
Is the dragons’ mass a problem with flying? They get so big!
It is! Without their own inherent magic they were infused with during domestication and the more mundane modifications of domestication, they would almost certainly be grounded at their size
@@TalesofKaimere sweet! Thank you so much!
Probably a good thing they can't fly far, or the whole of the world would likely have problems. Very cool concept, love the less traditional interpretation.
Thanks and much appreciated!
Were the Permian islands always meant to be the domain of dragons or was it a change you made later on as you fleshed out both?
They've been the domain of the dragons since I first designed the island.
Since they live far from the territory of the Great Portal and homunculi and other entities inspired the legends of Earth, how this Dragons come to be known on Earth?
Independently. On Earth, dragons are imagined embellishments of snakes and crocodiles. These dragons didn't influence Earth mythology aside from possible stories of the vanyu being passed along by Free-States merchants
Something that's been bugging me, how does the Assembly classify homunculi/other magic beings? They obviously can't use scientific names so do they have some other classification system, or do they just leave that to the Great Library?
They have scientific names but a lot of members prefer not to use them for the obvious reasons of them not being naturally evolved and being genetically one of the human species
Another great video Keenan! Do you imagine this family could become invasive if it were ever to make it off these islands?
It's entirely possible! The vanyu of the known world has had a great deal of success. Large dragons would struggle in the face of competition with large theropods (much heavier and better fighters, and their venom would not be particularly effective) but in habitats without many large theropods like the mammoth steppes, I imagine they would do great, and the clade overall would surely do well against mammals.
If the stem-birds are cockatrices, and the stem-mammals are dragons, what are goblins?
Homunculi
Man I got really emotional about Tamale
This hot Tamale was too much for the Assembly
Dinosaurs didn't evolve into dragons because they want to became birds, if Therapsids was given a chance to fly, they will fly as a dragon, even it is heavy like an stone, it's muscle and endurance will make it fly.
I feel like these would be really bad invasives if introduced, for animals not evolved to deal with aerial or venom attacks 😅 glad they havn't escaped the islands. I have a few questions to ask about what adaptations have been selected for to defend against dragons in prey animals i find this really interesting to theorize about since a hunting strategy like this has no precedent i can think of! i imagine something like a glyptodont turtle strategy to be very effective also is there any particular reason they have not migrated do they fair particularly badly at sea? just found the channel btw and love your world!!!!
Absolutely. The known world would have a turnover and extinction on par with the arrival of the first humans. Mammals in particular are very vulnerable to their venom, often experiencing an extreme allergic reaction on contact. The animals that evolved alongside them have a range of defenses, namely the ability to hold their breath for a long time and have nictitating membranes which heal very quickly so they can see while protecting their eyes. Some also have resistance to the venom, though none are immune. The dragons have not migrated because they are much less efficient at their size than birds and mammals. They can fly in short powerful bursts, but they lack unidirectional breathing so run out of oxygen a lot sooner. The domestication and enhancements by their witch masters was very helpful, though it really just compensated for their increased size and didn't do a whole lot to improve their endurance.
@@TalesofKaimere Thanks Keenan! that makes a lot of sense why they havn't got off the island on their own! fingers crossed for no rafts or human introduction!!! I can only imagine the devastation. I like the breath holding and robust healing nictitating membranes that is really fun, for some reason i am imagining them tinted like polarized sunglasses shades poping over the eyes xD a badass excavator boar deploying shades and just toughing it out. I watched a ton of of your videos after I left the comment and have to say the Permian islands are a fan fave for me now!! I find the creatures, culture and history so captivating. I learnt recently about male platypus using their venom primarily in intraspecies competition to make other males docile during mating season and thought it was a fun parallel to see in a Synapsids and like a good selective pressure reason to have venom resistance and venom potency like arms race, your dragons reminded me of this brains are weird. Also I wanted to ask on a side note! i'm from New Zealand, do you and/or the assembly know of any fauna/flora harvested from the Zealandia continent or later new zealand islands ?? or was the last time like from a more Gondwanan context. cheers!! and thankyou Keenan! :D
Any inspirations from Game Of Thrones by any chance?
Only in broad strokes. Basic dragonrider tropes and all
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It could be a good idea to take notes on the Doom of Valyria if you intend to make a video of the long gone dragon rider empire.
you know with breeding it would be different if they crossed this with a Uktan, since Witch Kings use witchcraft to make them, wouldn't be surprised if they hybridize them to start a new age of dragon riders.
You should do a video on large pelagic predatory bony fishes aka Scombriformes, Carangiformes, Istiophoriformes, Stomiiformes, Elopiformes, Albuliformes, ect.) And this includes extinct one to. Also even though these aren't large pelagic oredatory fish but I would also like to see how the milkfish of kaimere are doing
I would happily do an episode on such fish! A sequel to river monsters but for the sea.
@@TalesofKaimere are there rooster fish on kaimere because I love them and it would be cool if they were one of the dominant fast swimming predators
So is next week video again about the dragon?
Next week is on the gurkan
@@TalesofKaimereisn’t the Gurkan the last of the hadrosaurs?
@@TalesofKaimereso can i expect an introduction of kairul after the gurkan video ?
Very interesting, and great "science fantasy".
In the video Permian Islands, you spoke about this, domiesticated and magical modified dragons, to have some kind of fotosyntes ability.
Is that still a thing, or is the science about that updated?
Thank you! They still have photosynthetic skin yes
When did vanyu reach the known world
Unknown. As they probably came via floating debris it could have been anytime within the past few million years
First dinosaurs with extant mammals and now dragons!what’s next Kaijus!
i have a thought that has been gnawing at me a while that I submit for your consideration: The fascinating horror that would be a broken, corrupt, or anomalous portal. Perhaps the magic that makes it up is infected, or its senses hijacked somehow...or perhaps it was a first children expiriment, but it builds creatures that may not correspond with an earth portal and only follows its own unguessable logic. Perhaps each year it attempts to restart a tyrant dynasty on the small island it is tethered to . As they do each year the creatures briefly fight and then starve, and addto the reef of bones that expands the island bit by bit. Perhaps it is obssessed with endlessly printing out the same instance of a researcher from earth and these instances have formed a small community of Susans dedicated to studying the strange phenomenon
Considering that donkeys also live in this world... We must be careful)))
And Happy New Year of the Dragon!🐲🐉🦎
i do wonder why the dragons wont have a further reach in kaimere? are the competition with the local pterosaurs far too great for the dragns to handle?
They cannot cross the ocean. Too far to fly. If that changes, either by them evolving to have superior endurance or being brought to the mainland, colonizing won’t be good for the mainland
Did Boar Crocs have a larger range before the dragon’s enhancements? Did wild dragons coexist with the Permian Island Titan Crows?
Yes, and wild dragons did coexist with the Permian Island giant tapejarid