Leatherman SURGE vs WAVE, don't buy one until you WATCH THIS!!!

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  • @downtownbennybrown557
    @downtownbennybrown557 Рік тому +33

    I have owned them both, and if you work in the trades, drive a truck or do a lot of outdoors stuff, go with the Surge. If like he said, you want it to open Amazon packages, work on your bicycle or tinker around the house, you might want the Wave. Also if you are a female with smaller hands you might find the Wave easier to manipulate. I use the Surge as my EDC at work and gave the Wave to the wife.

    • @jedivanrooyen9614
      @jedivanrooyen9614 5 місяців тому +2

      The question is do you carry a separate knife or not ?

    • @ulary
      @ulary 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jedivanrooyen9614I also want to know that.Can the surge replace even a hard use folding knife?

    • @jedivanrooyen9614
      @jedivanrooyen9614 5 місяців тому +2

      @@ulary that’s the thing he says if you’re in the trades carry a surge. I am in the trades but I think the surge is unnecessary if you carry an actual knife.
      My wave plus a separate knife is perfect for me. I don’t think a surge would handle what my knife does

    • @ulary
      @ulary 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jedivanrooyen9614 Thank you sir.

  • @S62Uce
    @S62Uce Рік тому +11

    My cousin bought a surge, he has a desk job tho 😂 found no use for it lol he sold it to me for $70. I do low voltage electrical and this thing gets the job done for multiple tasks. Love it 👍🏽

  • @VladimirLadev
    @VladimirLadev 7 місяців тому +3

    Surge is the first and only multitool I bought and it suits my needs. After I got used to it i was in a store that had a bunch of Leathermans and they all looked so tiny like toys. Both great IMO

  • @MechanicallyMusical
    @MechanicallyMusical 10 місяців тому +4

    I love the surge for EDC and its perfect for taking on road trips on motorcycles if you add a small socket set the ratcheting bit extender and bits you can fix most simple issues and even rebuild an entire carburetor if you have to that's not recommended or fun but is completely possible.

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  6 місяців тому +1

      you don't recommend taking apart an entire carburetor just for fun??? haha I hate carbs, they are my nemesis :-)

  • @dirtydon8661
    @dirtydon8661 Рік тому +7

    Patiently waiting for my new Surge to show up 12-17-22! I currently use Gerber 600. Will miss the flick of wrist opening but the surge looks so much more capable. I am a electronic tech working offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. I work inside and outside. So there are tons of stairs on these platforms. My MT has saved me countless times from going to tool bag.
    Your review was very informative. Thanks

  • @FiremanFrach
    @FiremanFrach Рік тому +7

    I just got a Wave+ for my birthday, I have an original Supper Tool (1998) for work as a fireman and I have a Gerber in my truck. The Surge is, however, intriguing.

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  Рік тому +2

      The external tools would be a game changer for you!! So much better (although the original tools are great), the external tools are fantastic on all models. Thanks

  • @arzthaus
    @arzthaus Рік тому +3

    I abuse my tools a lot. I've chipped a flathead on the wave, and bent a knife corner on the crunch, but my surge has not been damaged yet lol. It's a tank and can really take a beating.

  • @impermanenthuman8427
    @impermanenthuman8427 2 роки тому +5

    A huge advantage I sent for the surge is that you can remove the file to sharpen the blades.
    One question though, what’s the difference between the black oxide and regular stainless in terms of ‘surgical’ hygiene, in case it’s needed to manage first aid applications right after being being used to gut a fish or something? Is the stainless likely to be easier to clean for any reason?
    What are the pros/cons of each finish?

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому +13

      Hi yes the removable file is a huge benefit because as you said, you can sharpen the blade with the file within the multi tool which is great for many reasons. The stainless is would be easier to clean in that circumstance as the black oxide coating is classified as a "semi porous" material making it a little more difficult to sterilize if needed/and clean after. The black oxide adds a very minimal amount of thickness to the handles and blades etc so I know some people have had a issue with tools being "tough or sticky" to open as compared with stainless however it seems that improves as the coating wears off at the pivot points. Benefits would be: less reflective/noticable, also the black oxide adds a little bit of grip texture as compared to the plain when it is wet. (but the black oxide does come off and can get on your hands/clothes as well). Pros and cons of both but I prefer the non black oxide myself. Thanks for watching.

    • @jayroland9481
      @jayroland9481 Рік тому +2

      Fear not, I've read several Amazon reviews where buyers have complained the black oxide finish comes off so easily.

  • @mcglashenmann2181
    @mcglashenmann2181 5 місяців тому +1

    I wore the wave for a long time, until my wife bought me the Surge. I LOVE it, still love the wave, but if you use the tool frequently, and like something a little more capable. Get the surge!

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  5 місяців тому

      surge is a GREAT tool, just more than I need on a daily basis. the ARC is fantastic for me, use it more than any of the others so far.

  • @meester9153
    @meester9153 25 днів тому

    i ordered a surge literally 2 minutes ago. hopefully this video wont make me regret it lol😅

  • @jeffpatterson9824
    @jeffpatterson9824 2 роки тому +5

    Those are very nice tools, never had a Leatherman but do have a pair of Gerber multi pilers, been carrying them for over 25 years, and used them everyday, I'll be lost without them,...me I like the one hand operation for the pilers,....but both tools are a great tool to have, like you said, it's about what you used them for, enjoy all your videos, keep up the great work 👍

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому +3

      If you like the one hand operation you should check out the leatherman free p4 or free p2. Gerber makes some good tools as well, whichever design and function that works best for each person. Thank you and thank you for watching.

  • @raymondzwolinski1271
    @raymondzwolinski1271 Рік тому +2

    Great comparison video, I’m very impressed with the attention to detail of your LEATHERMAN Surge and Wave !

  • @MrVarmont
    @MrVarmont Рік тому +3

    Thanks. Got surge and wingman. Want something between- Wave🎉

  • @jayroland9481
    @jayroland9481 Рік тому +2

    Good comparison review, thank you. I was thinking up upgrading my old style Wave but was shocked to see the new Leatherman Surge is a whacking £170. I'm sure it's a great tool but not a £170 great tool.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 11 місяців тому +2

      Go on get it for yourself, life is short, enjoy it whilst you can!

  • @giadar2963
    @giadar2963 2 роки тому +3

    Wave if you edc body carry and rare use it... Surge if you use much of it then you will edc that.. Surge for backpack toolbox table car.. I don't use that much so I carry wave. Normally in my fanny pack..

  • @helmutgutwein929
    @helmutgutwein929 Рік тому +2

    My Surge has a lanyard ring beside the awl. It is hidden, but there!

  • @davidblowe9096
    @davidblowe9096 2 роки тому +4

    Surge wins hands down as a work edc, but don't be fooled the T-shank isn't quite the tool it's marketed as, my boss broke a jigsaw blade - no worries I whipped out the surge and tool the blade out - its thicker than a standard t=shank blade which also means a standard t-shank blade is a little loose in the surge.

    • @EricSinclair95
      @EricSinclair95 9 місяців тому

      This is good to know thank you, would it be possible to simply shim it up for a snug fit potentially by sanding or filing down the "t" shank off another old worn-out blade or something like that?

    • @davidblowe9096
      @davidblowe9096 9 місяців тому

      @@EricSinclair95 opposite way around the surge T-shank was thicker than the standard ones

  • @Mudinyeri
    @Mudinyeri 2 роки тому +3

    Nice comparison. Exactly the info I was looking for. However, the black text on red background is a bit difficult to read. Someone else suggested actual screen recording software. That would probably help as would a change to yellow background with black text.

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching. Yes if I do anymore of the computer screen comparisons, I will be investing in screen recording software.

  • @John..18
    @John..18 2 роки тому +7

    Great comparison,, I have a Charge AL, and full bit sets, so I'm very happy, but it's nice to see alternatives,, !!
    I got the Charge at a massive discount, (on sale),, so I'm perfectly happy with my complete multi tool set up, 😍,,,
    The main drawback, is the Charge, (and any locking knife /multi tool), is illegal to carry in public, here in the UK,, !!! So, I can only use it around the house, or garden,,, and hence my recent switch to SAK's,,,, which fall within our "stupid" laws, for carrying most places,,, 👍,,
    Anyway, I've recently found your channel and subbed,, great video,
    All the best from across the pond,,, John.. 😀

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому +4

      Thank you. Yeah it’s crazy the knife laws some places! That stinks but glad you get to enjoy them at home anyway. Thanks again, Matt.

  • @G__Mason
    @G__Mason 2 роки тому +7

    Never knew these even existed but some guy just sold me the Leatherman Wave Plus, brand new in the box for $20. Done a quick Google search and seen they were $110 and said ahh what the hell and bought it. Man I’m glad I did, this things awesome!

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому

      Nice! That’s a great deal. Enjoy! :-)

    • @sully9836
      @sully9836 2 роки тому +1

      Might be fake

    • @rjskum688
      @rjskum688 Рік тому +6

      @@sully9836 bro probably has a Mave by Leatherguy.

  • @happykt
    @happykt Рік тому +3

    I can't see black print against red highlighting.

  • @kennywheelus6857
    @kennywheelus6857 2 роки тому +3

    I'm happy with my surge,an all the attachments I can switch out an have a ratchet driver plus a ratchet wrench that I can use my bits plus quarter bits as well.

  • @freddy2141
    @freddy2141 Рік тому +4

    LEATHERMAN SUPER TOOL 300 🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸💪🏼#1

  • @devsidhu8612
    @devsidhu8612 Рік тому +2

    Surge at work. Sidekick at home.

  • @jarvisskooge8602
    @jarvisskooge8602 2 місяці тому

    There is no substitute for the Surge… everything about it is superior. The weight difference can be overcome with a good aftermarket pocket clip.

  • @grovesy333
    @grovesy333 2 роки тому +3

    Very nice I really enjoy the look of both, I don’t own any of these I am getting a wave plus very soon insane tool but I might even get the surge as well because it’s nice to switch out saw blades 😁

  • @txtoolcrib
    @txtoolcrib 2 роки тому +9

    Just came across your channel, I like your approach. If I may, I’d like to give two suggestions. A screen record of your spreadsheets would help us to better see your data, and I would also suggest getting some overhead shots when comparing the two tools side-by-side for a more detailed view.

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому +2

      Hi thank you. I’m currently looking for a overhead recording setup I think that would be a great idea. And spreadsheet, thanks.

    • @txtoolcrib
      @txtoolcrib 2 роки тому +2

      @@HammerIIHammer I recently purchased a tripod mount unit from Glide Gear that I like very much, they also have some stationary units that allow for multi mounts for camera, mic, and lighting. Their products are not cheap, but their quality is top notch.

  • @andres3614152
    @andres3614152 11 місяців тому +2

    You, vs. the guy she told you not to worry about.

  • @davidforsberg5675
    @davidforsberg5675 Рік тому +1

    Surge, yes heavy but it's a working man/woman tool. Have 4 and one is carried with me everyday. On the belt weight is nothing.

  • @omnipresent417
    @omnipresent417 Рік тому +1

    Objectively, surge > wave if budget I'd available.

  • @GANENDRAGIRI
    @GANENDRAGIRI 2 роки тому +2

    Nice sharing,.. Very Good Comparison, I have one,. Leatherman Wave

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому

      Thank you. The wave is a great “jack of all trades”.

  • @robalan57
    @robalan57 2 роки тому +1

    I think the ultralight young guys will go with the Wave.

  • @arncj18
    @arncj18 Рік тому +1

    i've searched for broken pliers, never found a victor, but plenty of pictures of broken leathermans. so not sure what to buy

    • @EricSinclair95
      @EricSinclair95 9 місяців тому +1

      Im not so sure i understand what you're getting at, my Leatherman wave I've has been go to edc for me for 15 years and has been used hard and put to the test many times and at this point it is getting pretty worn out but it has by far exceeded its price point for the use ive gotten out of it

    • @arncj18
      @arncj18 9 місяців тому +1

      @@EricSinclair95 15 y ago they built them properly, now it's a hipster collectable

    • @EricSinclair95
      @EricSinclair95 9 місяців тому +1

      @arncj18 ahh ok wasnt really aware of that i just assumed their classic designs would still be produced to the same standards

  • @nex7053
    @nex7053 Рік тому +1

    Showing spreadsheet with camera pointed on monitor should be considered as act of violence against humanity. Why the hell ppl are unable to use at least OBS and cut it into video.

  • @s1lentcalib3r
    @s1lentcalib3r 6 місяців тому +1

    I feel like 1 simple thing they could of done is give them spring loaded grips i dont understand why

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  5 місяців тому +1

      absolutely would be a great upgrade/useful.

  • @Mike_Y.
    @Mike_Y. 2 роки тому +2

    Good video bro, very informative

  • @CoffeeTRuck3914
    @CoffeeTRuck3914 Рік тому +3

    Surge ㅡ factory workers, truck drivers, for hunting wild hogs
    wave+ ㅡ office workers, for pockets

  • @Geared84
    @Geared84 2 роки тому +2

    The new Free Series saying they are the one handed multitool is Bs. I can easily open and close my Surge and deploy any tool. Cheers

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  2 роки тому

      Surge is a beast. Huge but fantastic tool.

  • @damohr69
    @damohr69 Рік тому +1

    very nice thanks!

  • @patrickgambsky6290
    @patrickgambsky6290 Рік тому +1

    Leatherman Wave Plus for me

  • @johnnyringo2185
    @johnnyringo2185 Рік тому +3

    Wave is for people who really don’t need a multi tool but carry one anyway. Surge is for those who work and use one everyday

    • @NaviNavi-1uu8tg
      @NaviNavi-1uu8tg 8 місяців тому

      Wow how intelligent you are lol!

    • @johnnyringo2185
      @johnnyringo2185 8 місяців тому

      @@NaviNavi-1uu8tg I like to think so. Sorry I don’t see the value in a glasses screwdrivers, can openers, scissors and other tools when actually using one for a living. They’re great don’t get me wrong but when you sacrifice other more useful tools to have them it’s not for ppl who actually need em

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 місяці тому

      @@johnnyringo2185 never seen a man who works with his hands say "I wish I didn't have a bottle opener" at the end of the shift. Scissors are safer than using a blade to cut cord/belt etc. Fine glasses screwdriver in the bit kit is extremely handy, frustrating that there is no holder on the surge for it though!
      TBH, I have the Surge and it's too big for medium sized hands. The design failure is in the tall blades and simply scaling up the Wave design; the handles are too far apart as soon as you grab anything thick with the pliers. If the blades were scaled back a few mm in height then the few degrees the handles would close further would make it a better tool.
      Adam Savage mentions this when he explains why he carries a Wave, and in hindsight I have to agree with him.

    • @johnnyringo2185
      @johnnyringo2185 3 місяці тому

      @@scod3908 I keep a bottle opener stuck on the front of my fridge with a magnet…..bc that’s where the beer is. If you’re not mature enough to cut rope or cord with a knife blade go back to kindergarten. As for the micro driver, yea it’s occasionally useful but it deletes tools that would be far more useful in daily use. As for the size that’s objective and personal preference. I wear medium size gloves and have never had trouble using the surge. I favor the rebar for daily carry but if I want a larger toolset surge is a better option. As for Adam I’ve been a fan of his for years but that doesn’t mean just because he carries a wave means it’s the best option

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 місяці тому

      ​@@johnnyringo2185 strangely enough, I use the correct tool for the job when I'm in a set location or workstation. The multitool is for when you're not by the fridge. When someone hands you a beer in the field you'll be emasculated quickly asking for an opener to have them flip the cap off for you with a random item like a lighter.
      You'd be surprised how often people cut themselves using a blade where scissors would have been a much safer choice. It's also difficult to cut an accurate length of something without a suitable cutting surface, especially if you can't bend the thing you're cutting at an acute angle over the blade.
      I'm a medium or large glove, average sized male hands. My ideal grip on the handles is when the pliers are basically closed. On a wave it's much more ergonomic. It's just a fact that they scaled up the wave and didn't correct/adjust this ergonomically. Look at the Free and the ARC - they corrected the handle angle issue on those models

  • @urjnlegend
    @urjnlegend 2 роки тому +19

    The wave is a brick and the surge is 2 bricks

  • @ufra-5744
    @ufra-5744 10 місяців тому

    thx well done^^ I was not sure before then I bought the Wave Plus✌

  • @toolslover3645
    @toolslover3645 2 роки тому +3

    Never understand computer prt

  • @rebeccasheller8748
    @rebeccasheller8748 2 роки тому +4

    The smaller one might be good for a woman's hand.

  • @pepy9000
    @pepy9000 2 роки тому +2

    Red is a very bad choice of a color for your spread sheet. Should’ve gone for yellow so people can actually read it

  • @ScottSiddon
    @ScottSiddon 6 місяців тому +1

    Both need bigger teeth on the wrench as all they are good for as a wrench is strip a nut.

    • @HammerIIHammer
      @HammerIIHammer  5 місяців тому +1

      yeah not great for bigger bolts/nuts.

  • @tonymendestv
    @tonymendestv Рік тому

    Spreadshits? Oh commooon 😂

  • @AR-vf7vg
    @AR-vf7vg 2 роки тому +1

    I KNEW IT : One more smart a... influencer video missing a big thing* wile comparing and all the way sounding so nicly ready to share knowledge but lacking basic thoroughness due to anyone one respects.
    *no I won't say it here.

  • @pepy9000
    @pepy9000 2 роки тому +1

    Red is a very bad choice of a color for your spread sheet. Should’ve gone for yellow so people can actually read it