We've Learnt Nothing - Episode 37, Day 68 - Liverpool to Manchester
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- IT'S THE 13TH OF JULY, AND WE'RE ON THE TRAIL OF THE LIVERPOOL TO MANCHESTER RAILWAY, DISCOVER THAT WIGANS TWO STATIONS ARE VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER (AND WIGAN HAS A PIER TOO) BEFORE COMING BACK ROUND TO MANCHESTER AGAIN ...
BTW, TODAY IS "UPPER CASE TUESDAY!" - ALL COMMENTS (AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE THEM, BELOW) SHOULD BE MADE IN UPPER CASE. IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS, OR ANY OTHER ASPECT OF THIS VIDEO THEN PLEASE write them in lower case so that they stand out, THANKS VERY MUCH!
ROUTE: EDGE HILL - MANCHESTER VICTORIA - WIGAN WALLGATE - WIGAN NORTH WESTERN - LIME STREET - WARRINGTON CENTRAL - URMSTON - MANCHESTER OXFORD ROAD
Chassen Road is the Road I grew up on. Used that station quite a lot and Urmston.
AS A GERMAN SPEAKER I LIKE UPPER CASE TUESDAY
JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN OUR NOUNS
6:55 The look on the man in the background is priceless. He's probably thinking "Why on Earth would you even consider talking about liking pacers?"
BRITAIN RUNS ON GIN
VICKYS REACTION TO THE WINDMILL IS HILARIOUS!
I agree with Antony, there's too many idiots on the road. If only we had more railways more of us could travel in safety and comfort!
Mad seeing what looks like old Thameslink stock in Wigan..
We never get new trains, just southern hand-me-downs...
THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO AND I REALLY LIKE THE PRESENTERS. IT IS GREAT THAT THEY HAVE RAISED ALL OF THE MONEY BY THEMSELVES THROUGH CROWD FUNDING INSTEAD OF BEING PRIVELIGED RICH KIDS. THEY HAVE A LARGE ENTHUSIASTIC FOLLOWING WHO REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE EXCELLENT PRESENTERS WITH WARMTH AND CHARACTER. THE SERIES IS VERY ENJOYABLE. THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE KICKED UP THE ARSE. OR ABUSED WITH LOWER CASE COMMENTS.
GOEFF AND VICKI ARE ALSO VERY ENTERTAINING.
yes they are.
GEOFF, ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO! However... although I don't want to emulate A CERTAIN PERSON too closely, I _should_ point out that Mr Huskisson was killed at Parkside station (now closed) on the opening day of the L&M, not at the Rainhill Trials. And the first fatal railway accident in England was in 1815 in Philadelphia, County Durham. BUT I'M LIKE THAT.
Those that are interested may like to know; there is a class 156 named "Rt. Hon. William Huskisson MP." and that unit formed the first stopping service at the newly reopened Ilkeston station.
Huskisson was the first passenger railway fatality.
Your speech about the Northern railway and pacers spot on. Now you just need to call them "Bus Trains" and you've nailed it!
WHAT A GREAT SERIES OF VIDEOS I DECIDED TO BINGE WATCH
FOUR VICTORIA STATIONS, YET NO GEOFF STATIONS :-(
If there is ever a King Geoff, maybe he'll get stations named after him ;-)
Well Manchester Geoff Station hasn't been built yet :/
Haha I get it
I'm renaming Wigan Wallgate to Wigan Geoffgate. 😂
"...calling at Manchester Oxford Road, Deansgate, Salford Crescent, Bolton, Wigan Geoffgate and Southport."
Interesting note about St Helens Central station. When you're leaving towards Liverpool, the track has an abandoned route that cuts left and used to link up with St Helens Junction. The track for this (as well as the public gateways across said track) are still very much there, meaning you can get some great photos.
i'm addicted to these videos. i'd like to have seen more of Liverpool
I'M GLAD GEOFF IS FINALLY ADMITTING HIS SOUTHERN PRIVILEGE
As a northern rail user I can verify that pacers are the best, especially the ones with benches rather than individual seats. The openness and bumpiness of the trains are so weirdly charming and I'm going to be so devastated once they're all replaced
MY FAVOURITE STATION NAME WAS OLDHAM MUMPS (sadly no more) AND THE RAILWAY BRIDGE WITH THE SLOGAN "SETON PRODUCTS LTD WELCOME YOU TO OLDHAM - THE HOME OF THE TUBULAR BANDAGE"
Bill Leach mumps still exists as a tram stop
I slightly remember going when I was 2. It was on a PACER!
I would say that I feel sorry for you guys having to visit Wigan, but at least you got St Helens in there - its much nicer in St Helens.
At least St Helens still has a proper Marks and Spencer store!
I would like to visit England and see the famous railway and historical sites so I am very excited to find your channel !
I LOVE ALL THE STATIONS!!!! PERFECT WAY TO START THE DAY IN THE US OF A!!!
I suspect you both have learned more than any commuter. Certainly more than I knew before, but you are both masterful teachers. Much love to you both!
HAHA, I APPRECIATE THE SECOND APPEARANCE OF URMSTON. I GUESS THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GET THERE AFTER ALL.
IS 7 AM YOU NEW UPLOAD TIME? I LIKE THIS.... I GET TO WATCH IT BEFORE SCHOOL.
charlie moir SAME ITS BETTER ISNT IT
I KNOW RIGHT NOW I HAVE AN EXCUSE TO STAY UP PAST 11PM WHERE I LIVE!
I finish school already
Oooooo Vicki... SCORE! Terrific shot off Wigan Pier and the longboat manoeuvre. 😃👍
The pub on Urmston station - 'The Steamhouse' is a fantastic pub and well worth a visit. Shame you didn't show any footage of the place and showed the character of the place and the conversion photos.
I don't know why, but I'm soo happy you got of (ever so briefly) at Hindley. I did as well in April, when I noticed the train went in the wrong direction, and because I missed the train in the other direction by mere seconds, I had a drink at the local pub next to the station. Nice people!
I grew up in Urmston! Nice to see it represented! These past few videos are kind of making me miss the north west.
Guys, you should've made an extra about the Cambridgeshire Guided Busway and about the Leigh-Salford-Manchaster Bus Rapid Transit (also a guided busway). These things are quite uncommon, and the one in Cambridgeshire is also the longest in the world.
Nice to see my hometown St Helens on here!
IM GLAD YOU UPLOAD AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT MEANS I GET TO WATCH THIS BEFORE I GO TO WORK!
EVERY DAY THAT BEGINS WITH AN ALL THE STATIONS VIDEO IS A GREAT DAY.
As you were at Huyton station, I thought you would have shown the short distance between Huyton station and Roby station.
Great thing about Irlam station- They have a little Peckett loco and wagon display in the car park
DESPITE BEING A GAY MALE, IM DEVELOPING A LITTLE CRUSH ON VICKY. SORRY GEOFF! 😬
Gareth Jones HEART. BROKEN. 😟
YOU HAVE SIX LIKES ON THAT COMMENT SO I'M ASSUMING YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE
Definitely not the only one, I too am gay and falling more in love with Vicky by the day... nobody tell my Fiancé!
Dylan Conroy Ermmm... Okay? I'm terribly sorry that we seem to have offended you by saying something that had absolutely zero impact whatsoever on your life.
I do believe we were saying exactly what we were thinking and hoping to show our support for Geoff and Vicki and perhaps brighten other people's days with a light-hearted comment about how, being individuals who are generally attracted to those of the same gender find ourselves falling every so slightly in love with Vicki and her sense of wonder, humour and excitability. In other words, we were having a bit of a laugh.
If you have a problem with that, that's your problem and nobody else's. There's no need to be rude about a little harmless fun.
How could anyone not develop a crush on Vicki? She's the cutest little goofball I've ever seen! If she were a train, she'd be the Class 139 running from Stourbridge Junction to Stourbridge Town!
Seeing the train pulling out of Liverpool Lime Street brings back memories.
The world’s first team sport ‘derby’ was held between Wigan and St. Helens!
WITH THE TRAINS FROM MANCHESTER TO KIRKBY BEING SO INFREQUENT, SOMETIMES PICCADILLY-LIVERPOOL SOUTH PARKWAY-LIVERPOOL CENTRAL-KIRKBY CAN BE QUICKER
Bit of a tip - if you want a quieter carriage on the electric trains between Liverpool -Manchester/Preston/Wigan - use the rear or front carriages as the motors as probably noted are very noisey.
I'M AFRAID GEOFF FELL INTO THE PITFALL OF PRONOUNCING THE SECOND "K" IN "KIRKBY". IT'S ACTUALLY PRONOUNCED THE SAME AS "KIRBY", AS IN "WEST KIRBY".
Indeed!
the name makes me think of Kirby, the round pink ball from the games of the same name, that's how I remeber how to pronounce Kirkby
IT’S THE SAME AS A LOT OF NAMES THAT INCLUDE “KIRK” (CHURCH) - MANY TOWNS HAVE A “KIRKGATE” AND IT’S ALMOST ALWAYS (COVERING MYSELF FOR ANY SMARTARSES)!) PRONOUNCED “KURGATE”.
SAME WITH KIRKBYMOORSIDE NEAR ME - THE SECOND K IS SILENT.
edited posting to make it Upper Case Tuesday compliant :-)
Scott McGinn 😂😂
@@herschell64 or keerby as scousers pronounce it.
8:40 Reminds me of the time to walk between Newhaven Marine and Newhaven Harbour ;)
One correction. William Huskisson wasn't killed at Rainhill, or at the trials. He was killed on the opening day at Parkside, just east of Newton-le-Willows station. Half way between Liverpool and Manchester, where locos stopped to take on water.
SPEAKING OF PIERS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO RYDE PIER HEAD?
Sad to say, that since your visit, the sculpture at the Pier has been vandalised - he's lost his cap and scalp
Manchester needs Piccadilly station taking out of commission, except the two through platforms. Victoria needs to be made into a proper mega _through_ station like in Berlin, having all connections at one point. Piccadilly faces the wrong way. Having two terminal stations in inland cities is ludicrous - they are a left over from the Victorian era. Terminal stations are very inefficient.
You are 30 years too late there as you should have told that to British Rail then and they wouldn't have downgraded Victoria station and built that Arena there.
THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING THIS. GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL! I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT DAY! :D
AH.. PACERS LIKE THAT REMIND ME OF BEING A STUDENT IN SHEFFIELD IN THE 1980S AND TRAVELLING OVER THE THE MANCHESTER AREA TO WATCH FOOTBALL AND VISIT MY SISTER. i LOVE HOW THE SEATS SEEM TO BE BOLTED ONTO THE FLOORS AS OPTIONAL EXTRAS, AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.. AND HOW THEY HAVN'T CHANGED IN 30 YEARS
Talking of lovely station pubs in the Manchester area, the Stalybridge Station Buffet is a must visit! Great beer, lots of railway related nicnacs and pies!
SO LONG AS YOU ARE NOT OPERATING THE TRAIN , THE ODD PINT CAN'T DO ANY HARM. I DO LOVE HOW YOU CALL THIS A JOB THOUGH
"I'M DOING HARRY POTTER JUST TO EXCITE YOU." - #THINGSGEOFFSAYS
There's a fanfiction joke here somewhere that I shan't bother trying to discover.
Rule 34 and Tumblr are on fire right now. XD
THIS WAS VERY WELL DONE YET AGAIN ALSO YOUR LEVEL 99 SAVAGERY WITH UPPERCASE TUESDAY IS NOTED AND HILARIOUS YOU BANTERSAROUSES YOU
HOWEVER
Geoff have you not read Harry Potter? Seriously?
The oldest railway station could be a point of contention. On the first day the trains came from Crown St into Edge Hill before Broad Green. However, Edge Hill was relocated in 1836 while Broad Green is still in it's original 1830 location so some could argue that the current Edge Hill isn't the original and therefore Broad Green is the earliest.
you are correct about Broadgreen but sadly it doesn't retain the 1836 looks of Edge Hill. whilst it sits on it's original site it is modern bus shelter style, so give it a miss.
HA HA! THANKS FOR THE UPLIFTING VIDEOS GUYS. trolls are idiots!
YOU'RE DOING GREAT GUYS, KEEP GOING...
its so weird seeing places i know on youtube XD especially Hag fold , which is currently my nearest station! and also around Wigan! It made me wish the Tyldesley loop line was still in place so you could have come through my town xD I could have given you a lift from one station to another on the historic Bolton & Leigh railway... which dosent exist anymore either :/ and i cant drive anyway XD oh well. Continue on your amazing journey, warriors of public transport! :)
Warrington Central my local station. Least used around here has to be Sankey for Penketh but it is closing to be replaced
YET ANOTHER MARVELLOUS VIDEO.
i TOO, EVEN AS A HAPPILY MARRIED MAN, HAVE DEVELOPED A SLIGHT CRUSH ON VICKY. YOU'RE A LUCKY MAN GEOFF.
HOWEVER, I AM DISAPPOINTED VICKY SEEMINGLY HADN'T PREVIOUSLY HEARD OF WIGAN PIER. IT'S FAMOUS, AND GEORGE ORWELL INCORPORATED IT INTO THE TITLE OF ONE OF HIS BOOKS.
KEEP UP THE VERY GOOD WORK. YOUR VIDEOS ARE MAKING MY SUMMER EVEN MORE ENJOYABLE.
I have been waiting for you to get to St. Helens central for so long. My local station, made my day
I JUST MISSED YOU BY HALF AN HOUR AS I WAS IN LIME STREET AT 3:00 AND YOU WERE THERE ABOUT 40 MINUTES EARLIER.
DRINKING ON THE JOB? SHOUTY MAN'S GOING TO BE FURIOUS!
THEY SHOULDVE HAD A DRINK AND SHOWN IT ON CAMERA JUST TO RUB IT IN FOR SHOUTY MAN.
EVERYTIME I HEAR THE NAME URMSTON I AM FONDLY REMINDED OF VICTORIA WOOD! GEOFF AND VICKI ARE THE BEST UA-camRS!
Yeah, I live by wigan and it's a bit of a local inside joke how close the stations are together
Aww, you didn't show the Nine Arches Viaduct. Also, the accident with William Huskisson happened near Newton-le-Willows, not Rainhill.
It would have been nice to end the video showing Manchester Liverpool Road as a reminder of the origins of rail travel and then show the Ordsall Chord bridge which is the future of trains in Manchester.
Anthony told me off when I was younger for kicking a football over his fence!
WILL YOU MISS NORTHERN'S PACERS ONCE THE ELECTRIFICATION IN THE NORTH WEST IS FINISHED?
I WON'T
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NEW CAFE UNITS COME INTO SERVICE
uncriticalsimon NORTHERN PACERS WILL STILL OPERATE UNFORTUNATELY ON A NUMBER OF LINES IN YORKSHIRE....
I SUPPOSE YORKSHIRE HAS A REPUTATION FOR PARSIMONY
uncriticalsimon WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING NEW TRAINS AND ELECTRIFICATION OF CERTAIN LINES FOR OVER 20 YEARS YET NORTHERN AND NETWORK RAIL KEEP SAYING NO....AND SPENDING MONEY DOWN SOUTH...
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S UPPER CASE TUESDAY BUT I LIKE IT SO I'M JOINING IN TOO.
Missed most of the stations on that line
Oh, ffs...not AGAIN........?!!!!
Geoff has not made the connection that most of the electric trains him & Vicki travelled on are the old Thameslink ones!
James Jones
He's definitely noticed...
READ THE DESCRIPTION
Do apologise, my bad.
daROBLOXChannel
I'M SORRY
UNTIL RECENTLY, LIVERPOOL ROAD WAS STILL CONNECTED TO THE NATIONAL RAIL NETWORK BUT THE CONNECTION WAS SEVERED
To build that waste of money known as the Ordsal curve which has put even more pressure on the two through platforms at Piccadilly.
BRITAIN RUNS ON TEA
Was the first death not at Eccles station? I think there is a plaque there. A politician. Even Geoff won't sit facing the other passengers on the Pacer.
the wigan prier does not exist :DDDDD I ❤ Eric Blair's work
well.. exists, but it isn't an actual prier...
Well I do not know how many Pacers you rode with Arriva Trains Wales on the Valley Lines around Cardiff. However this is your first unrefurbished Class 142 Pacer train! However it has received new flooring and seat retrim (the original Leyland TL11 engine with Self Change Gearbox was replaced by Cummins L10 engine with Voith Automatic Gearbox and the folding four leaf doors were changed to twin leaf way back in the 1990s), other than that, it is virtually original.
A total of ninety six (96) Class 142 were ordered by British Rail and were built by Leyland Bus between 1985 - 87 for use on branch, rural and suburban lines that were lightly used. The design of the Class 142 is based on the famous, popular and well loved Leyland National bus of the mid 1970s which lasted in service until the mid 1990s.
From Peter Skuce, St. Albans, Hertfordshire.
Lynxfan2 WHICH IS WHY MY FRIEND WHO COMMUTES ON THEM CALLS THEM A BUS ON RAILS 😃 (ps NO ALL CAPS FOR YOU?!)
Lynxfan2 ARE THERE MANY PEOPLE WHO REMEMBER THE PACERS IN CORNWALL FOR A YEAR OR SO AFTER THEY FIRST ARRIVED? I WAS IN CORNWALL BRIEFLY IN 1987, I RODE THE NEWQUAY LINE, ON LEAVING PAR THE SQUEALING ROUND THE CURVE WAS ATROCIOUS. I'VE BEEN TOLD LISKEARD TO COOMBE JUNCTION (HALT) WAS EVEN WORSE. . The following year they'd all gone, replaced by bubble cars and older units. Also in 1988, I found one or two Pacers operating in Manchester still with the "Devon and Cornwall " maps posted inside. Pacers were regular on the Oldham Loop (I had a cousin at Old Crompton near Shaw and Crompton station, so rode it quite a few times), until conversion to the Metrolink system.
ALL THIS SHOUTING REMINDS ME OF HOPPING FREIGHT!
( ...thankfully without the dust & bulls! Do people hop freight in the UK? There doesn't seem to be much. I've noticed yous mentioning it occasionally. )
Caalamus perhaps because it's illegal & stupid - because freight goes through stations
THE PACER IS THE CLOSEST YOU CAN GET TO RIDING THE RAIL WITHOUT A HANDCART. THE NEW MODERN TRAINS ARE NICE BUT PACERS REALLY TRANSFER THE TRACK RIDE TO PASSENGERS AND OFFER A UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SOON TO BE REPLACED BY EXTREME COMFORT AND ISOLATION, so mad right now! OFF TO MAKE TEA...
THE PACER THAT RUNS THE LINE THAT GOES TO ST BEES HAS 1 SQUARE WHEEL. YOU CAN REALLY FEEL IT ;-)
1960S DIESEL MECHANICAL UNITS WERE REAL TRAINS, GRINDING THROUGH THE GEARS AND BOUNCING ALONG. AND YOU COULD LOOK OUT BEHIND THE DRIVER!
2:12 you found Eccles... now where is Bluebottle?
Ratel, you're showing your age. Not that me knowing what the question means makes me any younger!
Eccles always reminds me of the cakes though.
@@johnlister I grew up listening to Goon Show records with my Grandfather. It might be more showing his influence rather than my chronological age.
Glad to find another Milligan fan in the weird wide web. Can't be too many of us left, he seems to be one of those lost treasures.
Hopefully Major Bloodknock and Moriarty don't try to steal him.
Although not the original buildings the oldest operational station is Broad green (15 sept 1830)
Great project really enjoy your videos.
At 1:09 is the best station on the route as I have family living there.
also there is a plaque on Warrington Bank Quay station commemorating Paul Simon's "Homeward Bound" written at the station by the man himself
I thought that was Widnes Station?
No that's Widnes!
Another great video, thanks.
Wigan Pier is not the pub and the landing stage outside, its on the opposite canal bank a little further down.
Liverpool is my fave British city
My local adopted station is Atherton as I live in the largest town in the North West without a train station since 1969
The reason he made all the papers, was not just cos he was the first rail passenger fatality, he was an MP for Liverpool - a certain William Huskisson esq
PACERS - THE MARMITE OF BRITISH TRAINS (LOVE THEM OR HATE THEM)
I'm the opposite, hate marmite, love Pacers
hate them or really hate them, surely?
I agree, the roads are full of idiots, could be a new slogon for the railway advertisment.
THE PACERS ARE MY TRAINS AND I ONLY GET ONE TRAIN EACH WAY AN HOUR AND I HATE WHEN I DON'T GET PACERS!
Wigan pier is the home of donk music 🎵
BRITAIN RUNS ON RAILS
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
GREAT! WAS AT RAINHILL 1980!
VICKY knows whats she's talking About Love To The PACERS ❤❤
Hi Geoff, quick thing, noticed you pronounced the K in Kirkby, I live in southport and know that if you do that there you do not get well liked!
How many different arrangements of the theme music will have been used by the end? I particularly liked the "All The Castles" remix 😀
WHY ARENT YOU TALKING IN UPPER CASE?!
cbak12sg EXCELLENT QUESTION!
THESIS: TACO TUESDAY
ANTITHESIS: UPPER CASE TUESDAY
SYNTHESIS: UPPER CASE TACOS
Broad Green in Liverpool is the oldest used station in the world - 1830. The current Edge Hill station is from 1836.
Mitcham in South London opened in 1802 on the Surrey Iron Railway, but as a goods station; it is a Tramlink station today. No original buildings.
yes but the original buildings at Broad Green have long been replaced. Edge Hill is probably the oldest original station still in use.
@@dukenukem5768
Yes, but horse drawn, not motive powered. So not aplicable.
@@davidemmott6225
That is true, but the station of Broad Green is the oldest. Its location is still the same.
I can't help but think if you asked a conductor if you could get off and take a photo down sarf they would look at you angry and then leave you behind :D
You missed out Bryn, Garswood, Roby & Wavetree Technology Park.
To be fair, there's nowt at Bryn and Garswood to film these days.
@@grahamross6397 you are right
NEW FUNKY MIX. I LOVE IT.