Another reviewer that doesnt understand towing weights. A lot of people make this same mistake actually. The can be two identical cars, one has for example a 300hp engine putting out 500nm torque and the other identical car for example 500hp putting out 800nm of torque, but still has the same or virtually the same tow weight. The reason is not to do with the engines ability to pull more weight, but the vehicles weigbt, size and breaking, etc. Sure the more powerful engine can pull a lot more and would last longer doing so, but having a heavy caravan or trailer or whatever that is beyond the manufacturers recommend towing capacity will effect the handling and stopping ability of the car, too much weight and the trailer is likely to cause the car to get into a serious wobble or even through it off the road. Generally you shouldn't tow something that is much heavier than the car. Thats why quite often the same car with a more powerful engine has the same or almost same towing weight, its for safety nothing to do with the power of the engine. Most cars can tow more than the stated weight, but they would then be unsafe to drivr.
GWM TANK 300 Lux Hybrid 2,313 kg GWM Tank 300 supports up to 2500kg Toyota Land Cruiser 2,240 to 2,455 kg Toyota Land Cruiser supports up to 3500kg Tank300 suspension system and breaking must not be upto the job id say have very little to do with power. But when comes to hybrids or EV’s they normally much heavier the a conventional vehicle due to battery.
Tbf, tank 300 is not only used for offroad or pulling capabilities. It is also made for comfort. Its the reason why they dont have the harsh suspensions. Its soft but firm at the same time. Multitasking
I bought a Tank300 petrol in the last few months, Melb. They want exactly 10k more for the hybrid per variant. Didn't stack up for me. Petrol version has been great so far - but I switch off the ELK on each drive if I remember to. Apparently thre's a dealer provided update available for this (rather than OTA). Yet to check that out. And yes, I saw your previous review and really enjoyed it. I recall you said - and I quote ""It's almost downright swift". 😆
Have an Orange Tank 300 for 2 months and 1,500km now. Other than Emergency Lane Assist (which is useless) and has to be manually turned off each time you start the car, it's a 10/10 for me. Had the dealer fit Pirelli Scorpion A/T + tyres in place of the standard Michelins. Previous car was a 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk and compared to the Trailhawk the drivetrain is much smoother. Yet to take off road but should be at least an equal to the Trailhawk
No to the Hybrid, It would be much heavier, fuel consumption is not much better and 2.0l petrol Turbo is more than adequate for everyday driving and I'm told is easy tuneable to over 200kw if that's your thing.
Bought the T300 Hybrid. Love it. Hate the random warning generator and LKA, both of which I switch off for long drives. Merge and speed warnings are silenced if you’re in the nav screen. Braking (including heavy braking) is better than my old Wrangler Rubicon. Operating Manual is not comprehensive - seems generic for Tanks and markets. Summary for me after 10K - very happy and way better than my old wrangler and my wife’s CRV. But I really really really hope there is a software update to fix the useless random warning generator (eg telling me to take a break every 15secs).
None of these reviews takes a look at actual city, start and stop driving with the hybrid - where it should offer an advantage. It seems that it would deliver much lower operating costs. You don't want a hybrid just for highway or off-road driving.
Test drove the hybrid ultra in Thailand as a comparison to the new hybrid CRV - they are very similar prices here in Thailand. There was a lot I liked about the smooth powerful drive; lovely interior; nice retro design and Info and entertainment systems that put the new CRV to shame. But here I am still driving my 10 year old Honda. The safety 'assistance' drove me nuts. As the reviewer stated it is incessant and a lot of it can not be turned off - and in Thailand that is without the addition facial attention software. So I cancelled my order. But a real shame as there was I liked.
So I got a tank 300 hybrid 4 weeks ago. After test driving the petrol back in July. The drive home with the hybrid was horrible the lane keeping and driver monitoring was horrible. Was jerky as hell. And the air-con wouldn’t come up when apple car play was on if you hit a temperature button. But that was not the icing on the cake I got home and went to get back in to take the car around to my fathers and an error light come up and the air-con stopped working. Took it to the dealer and well it’s still there. Something wrong with it talking to battery when it gets flat won’t charge or something they need to write a patch. They say they are working on it 2 others have same issues now. And I’m without a car. I only got the hybrid for wireless car play sad I know. Recommend avoiding till they fix the issues
I enjoyed this review and the vehicle has some attraction in design and apparent quality. I am not sure how manufacturers set up their safety systems but this seems to be something that needs more attention.
I was close to ordering this car but I went for the Mazda cx5 g35 Akera instead .I thought the tech wasn’t up to scratch and after watching this I’m glad I didn’t buy it .If they iron these issues out this car would sell in big volumes.
Not sure why you would cross-shop these two? Tank is for people who do some off-roading? CX5 is for women who go get their nails done and drop the kids off...
Like colouring in, stay between the lines and its not an issue. The lane keep on the tank is not an issue for people who can actually drive properly. 100% guarantee yourne not in the middle of the lines, you probably think you are
This is a major oversimplification. You’re not always in the dead centre of the lane 100% of the time - you might (appropriately) lean moderately to one side to avoid an opening door or cyclist; you might approach a corner apex entirely legally on a country road. In these situations the car shouldn’t be yanking you towards what it perceives as dead centre. Appropriately tuned systems won’t do so when they judge driver input to be deliberate and within reasonable parameters.
@@chasingcars Then turn the sensitivity to low. I find it amazing that on any make of vehicle the reviewers dont actually reveiw anymore, they jump in and test it as it is from factory which is not how anyone drives the car when they buy it.
In the two different demo's I drove both had a massive problem with them when accelerating away from a stop while turning (for example turning right at an intersection) and they took off under electric power but halfway through the turn they engaged the petrol engine with a huge shunt that violently surged through the vehicle. It's as though the electric engine was spinning the drivetrain at the equivalent petrol engine speed of about 3000 rpm and then suddenly decided it didn't have enough grunt to continue and tried to engage the petrol engine from 0 to 3000 rpm instantly. Certainly not smooth and could reproduce it on both cars, multiple times.
@@henrytoussaint7 no there's no extra weight in the rear . It's an apparent software issue with the brakes that causes the rear to lift . GWM are addressing the problem.
@@Coastmac2001 I'm more-so talking about the ~200kg extra weight over the petrol model which probably does factor in a flatter braking characteristic. But that could also coincide with a software update too yes!
I just bought an Ultra Hybrid. Yep the safety tech is rubbish (you get pretty good at turning it all off after about a week of ownership)🥱 Got it for $57k d/away. I have to say that I really enjoy it so far. No, it is unlikely to hold value (I’ve got an Audi E-Tron S that has lost $100k in less than 2 yrs of ownership so at least it can’t hurt that much). I bought the Hybrid simply for the extra shove. Drove both back to back and the hybrid was a much better experience (for me).
I really like these, and one would be perfect for me, but I had a Jolion as a rental car for a week, and the exact same nagging electronic nannies drove me absolutely bonkers. Their implementation of the safety systems has come full circle to the point where they are a detriment instead of an improvement. Until they fix them, I'll keep my money.
Looks like a very attractive 4x4, brilliant design and I can totally understand that it will tick so many boxes for many however, in my humble opinion; Chinese cars have still some way to go compared to the Japanese. They feel to be about 10 to 15 years behind driving wise. Throwing lots of tech on them by the manufacturer, seems to be just a marketing distraction. Especially baldly calibrated technology which can rather be dangerous and cause accidents. If it was my money, I would rather go for a near new or lower grade of a more established car brand.
I own an early top of the range Canon and floors me that after all the R&D and investment, they stuff both vehicles up with something as simple as software. Since the day a bought my Canon i have heard rumours of a software flash to address the glitchy info system, crap lane assist and especially the turbo lag. Nothing ever materialised. It is going to take an accident from the turbo lag on the Ute or the poor pid tuning on the lane assist on this vehicle or a class action before they do anything. I really really wanted the tank to be a great vehicle but, like the Ute, it falls short. 😢
Bizarre review and not what I expected when i read “spoiled by bad tech”. The reviewer wines on about the safety systems. It’s hardly worth calling it “BAD TECH” or maybe only worth it if you were…click-baiting. And, the safety systems are exactly the same as in the petrol versions 🤦♂️
Bought a great wall ute 5 year ago brand new for $24000. After 2 year and 6 months sold it because of having ............. What do you think how much I got for that 2.6 year old ute ? $3600 😡😡 Never again 🤬
Another reviewer that doesnt understand towing weights. A lot of people make this same mistake actually. The can be two identical cars, one has for example a 300hp engine putting out 500nm torque and the other identical car for example 500hp putting out 800nm of torque, but still has the same or virtually the same tow weight. The reason is not to do with the engines ability to pull more weight, but the vehicles weigbt, size and breaking, etc. Sure the more powerful engine can pull a lot more and would last longer doing so, but having a heavy caravan or trailer or whatever that is beyond the manufacturers recommend towing capacity will effect the handling and stopping ability of the car, too much weight and the trailer is likely to cause the car to get into a serious wobble or even through it off the road. Generally you shouldn't tow something that is much heavier than the car. Thats why quite often the same car with a more powerful engine has the same or almost same towing weight, its for safety nothing to do with the power of the engine. Most cars can tow more than the stated weight, but they would then be unsafe to drivr.
GWM TANK 300
Lux Hybrid
2,313 kg
GWM Tank 300 supports up to 2500kg
Toyota Land Cruiser 2,240 to 2,455 kg
Toyota Land Cruiser supports up to 3500kg
Tank300 suspension system and breaking must not be upto the job id say have very little to do with power. But when comes to hybrids or EV’s they normally much heavier the a conventional vehicle due to battery.
@@endoftheroadjackif you bring land cruiser , you should compare it with tank 500, not 300
Exactly @@AntihuaGoxiba
Tbf, tank 300 is not only used for offroad or pulling capabilities. It is also made for comfort. Its the reason why they dont have the harsh suspensions. Its soft but firm at the same time. Multitasking
I bought a Tank300 petrol in the last few months, Melb. They want exactly 10k more for the hybrid per variant. Didn't stack up for me. Petrol version has been great so far - but I switch off the ELK on each drive if I remember to. Apparently thre's a dealer provided update available for this (rather than OTA). Yet to check that out. And yes, I saw your previous review and really enjoyed it. I recall you said - and I quote ""It's almost downright swift". 😆
I'd take this over things like Fortuner, MU-X, etc. but between this or the Jetour T2.. hmm tough choice.
Have an Orange Tank 300 for 2 months and 1,500km now. Other than Emergency Lane Assist (which is useless) and has to be manually turned off each time you start the car, it's a 10/10 for me. Had the dealer fit Pirelli Scorpion A/T + tyres in place of the standard Michelins. Previous car was a 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk and compared to the Trailhawk the drivetrain is much smoother. Yet to take off road but should be at least an equal to the Trailhawk
Hybrid ? Keen to get one.
No to the Hybrid, It would be much heavier, fuel consumption is not much better and 2.0l petrol Turbo is more than adequate for everyday driving and I'm told is easy tuneable to over 200kw if that's your thing.
I agree, but hybrid does have much better power, give it more kick@@johnbambo9036
Bought the T300 Hybrid. Love it. Hate the random warning generator and LKA, both of which I switch off for long drives. Merge and speed warnings are silenced if you’re in the nav screen. Braking (including heavy braking) is better than my old Wrangler Rubicon. Operating Manual is not comprehensive - seems generic for Tanks and markets.
Summary for me after 10K - very happy and way better than my old wrangler and my wife’s CRV. But I really really really hope there is a software update to fix the useless random warning generator (eg telling me to take a break every 15secs).
None of these reviews takes a look at actual city, start and stop driving with the hybrid - where it should offer an advantage. It seems that it would deliver much lower operating costs. You don't want a hybrid just for highway or off-road driving.
Test drove the hybrid ultra in Thailand as a comparison to the new hybrid CRV - they are very similar prices here in Thailand. There was a lot I liked about the smooth powerful drive; lovely interior; nice retro design and Info and entertainment systems that put the new CRV to shame. But here I am still driving my 10 year old Honda. The safety 'assistance' drove me nuts. As the reviewer stated it is incessant and a lot of it can not be turned off - and in Thailand that is without the addition facial attention software. So I cancelled my order. But a real shame as there was I liked.
So I got a tank 300 hybrid 4 weeks ago. After test driving the petrol back in July. The drive home with the hybrid was horrible the lane keeping and driver monitoring was horrible. Was jerky as hell. And the air-con wouldn’t come up when apple car play was on if you hit a temperature button. But that was not the icing on the cake I got home and went to get back in to take the car around to my fathers and an error light come up and the air-con stopped working. Took it to the dealer and well it’s still there. Something wrong with it talking to battery when it gets flat won’t charge or something they need to write a patch. They say they are working on it 2 others have same issues now. And I’m without a car. I only got the hybrid for wireless car play sad I know. Recommend avoiding till they fix the issues
I enjoyed this review and the vehicle has some attraction in design and apparent quality. I am not sure how manufacturers set up their safety systems but this seems to be something that needs more attention.
There is nothing wrong with the safety, it is a fun 4x4 off road vehicle, not designed for towing tho
I was close to ordering this car but I went for the Mazda cx5 g35 Akera instead .I thought the tech wasn’t up to scratch and after watching this I’m glad I didn’t buy it .If they iron these issues out this car would sell in big volumes.
Probably made a wiser choice if you didn't need the off-road ability in the first place!
Mazda a boring as 💩
Not sure why you would cross-shop these two? Tank is for people who do some off-roading? CX5 is for women who go get their nails done and drop the kids off...
Like colouring in, stay between the lines and its not an issue. The lane keep on the tank is not an issue for people who can actually drive properly. 100% guarantee yourne not in the middle of the lines, you probably think you are
This is a major oversimplification. You’re not always in the dead centre of the lane 100% of the time - you might (appropriately) lean moderately to one side to avoid an opening door or cyclist; you might approach a corner apex entirely legally on a country road. In these situations the car shouldn’t be yanking you towards what it perceives as dead centre. Appropriately tuned systems won’t do so when they judge driver input to be deliberate and within reasonable parameters.
@@chasingcars Then turn the sensitivity to low. I find it amazing that on any make of vehicle the reviewers dont actually reveiw anymore, they jump in and test it as it is from factory which is not how anyone drives the car when they buy it.
We do adjust the sensitivity before coming to final conclusions.
@@chasingcars doubt it, why wouldn't you say in your review then 😂
In the two different demo's I drove both had a massive problem with them when accelerating away from a stop while turning (for example turning right at an intersection) and they took off under electric power but halfway through the turn they engaged the petrol engine with a huge shunt that violently surged through the vehicle. It's as though the electric engine was spinning the drivetrain at the equivalent petrol engine speed of about 3000 rpm and then suddenly decided it didn't have enough grunt to continue and tried to engage the petrol engine from 0 to 3000 rpm instantly. Certainly not smooth and could reproduce it on both cars, multiple times.
Why u write this every where
Will you guys review tank 500 anytime soon? I think they use the same hev engine as this one
Do the back wheels still leave the ground under heavy braking?
Apparently a software issue that's being addressed
The extra weight keeps it grounded!
@@henrytoussaint7 no there's no extra weight in the rear . It's an apparent software issue with the brakes that causes the rear to lift . GWM are addressing the problem.
@@Coastmac2001 I'm more-so talking about the ~200kg extra weight over the petrol model which probably does factor in a flatter braking characteristic. But that could also coincide with a software update too yes!
its called an Endo
I am wondering how you can park the car blocking 1.5 lanes without issues. 😅
Private test track
Do you always park across double lines in the middle of a winding road to do your summaries ?
pretty sure this is filmed on a privately owned test road.
Fully loaded landcruiser towing 30ft caravan coming at 90Kmh.
These should have a proper Diesel engine
GWM need to step up & improve this a bit more .
Factory recall on the rear braking i believe.
I just bought an Ultra Hybrid. Yep the safety tech is rubbish (you get pretty good at turning it all off after about a week of ownership)🥱
Got it for $57k d/away. I have to say that I really enjoy it so far. No, it is unlikely to hold value (I’ve got an Audi E-Tron S that has lost $100k in less than 2 yrs of ownership so at least it can’t hurt that much). I bought the Hybrid simply for the extra shove. Drove both back to back and the hybrid was a much better experience (for me).
I really like these, and one would be perfect for me, but I had a Jolion as a rental car for a week, and the exact same nagging electronic nannies drove me absolutely bonkers. Their implementation of the safety systems has come full circle to the point where they are a detriment instead of an improvement.
Until they fix them, I'll keep my money.
Looks like a very attractive 4x4, brilliant design and I can totally understand that it will tick so many boxes for many however, in my humble opinion; Chinese cars have still some way to go compared to the Japanese.
They feel to be about 10 to 15 years behind driving wise. Throwing lots of tech on them by the manufacturer, seems to be just a marketing distraction. Especially baldly calibrated technology which can rather be dangerous and cause accidents.
If it was my money, I would rather go for a near new or lower grade of a more established car brand.
I own an early top of the range Canon and floors me that after all the R&D and investment, they stuff both vehicles up with something as simple as software. Since the day a bought my Canon i have heard rumours of a software flash to address the glitchy info system, crap lane assist and especially the turbo lag. Nothing ever materialised. It is going to take an accident from the turbo lag on the Ute or the poor pid tuning on the lane assist on this vehicle or a class action before they do anything. I really really wanted the tank to be a great vehicle but, like the Ute, it falls short. 😢
Sounds like it's dubbed most of the time, which is disconcerting, but I may be wrong
Published 13sec ago, no one watched lol
Pretty much the same scenario for any Chinese vehicle for me. 😁
@@johanneswehrmann You check every Chinese vehicle review 13 seconds after they are uploaded to check for views?
The safe systems stops a sale from me. Can't stand that
Bizarre review and not what I expected when i read “spoiled by bad tech”. The reviewer wines on about the safety systems. It’s hardly worth calling it “BAD TECH” or maybe only worth it if you were…click-baiting.
And, the safety systems are exactly the same as in the petrol versions
🤦♂️
What about the hard brake test where the rear wheels left the ground? 👎🏼
The hybird havent tested yet in China, put this to Australia and asking 10k more is a big joke
tank300hev 在中国不会上市，在中国上市的tank300phev.
Paying $10,000 extra for the hybrid makes no sense.
You do realize people pay more for cars that have more power right?
You want tech by a laptop. Who buys a car for its tech. Whats wrong with people
Jeepcedes BroncRover
😅😅😅😅
Bought a great wall ute 5 year ago brand new for $24000.
After 2 year and 6 months sold it because of having .............
What do you think how much I got for that 2.6 year old ute ?
$3600 😡😡
Never again 🤬
trade in? Condition? Kms? That
doesnt tell us much
Better hang on if you gotta clamp your brakes hard 😂 thoes back wheels leave the road 😅
Did I just save myself $61,000 ?
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Forget the hybrid get the standard ice
hydrid is stop gap rubbish if you want ev get full electric forget this hybrid variant
A car for try hards
I have only positive emotions from you💋
I won't buy this car for that reason .. annoying alerts.. I will wait for them to switch it off.😊
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All I can say after watching this promotion sales video is : No. and no please. I would think about a Toyota or a Lexus, rather
Faintly ridiculous to suggest a video entitled “This great 4x4 is tarnished by bad tech” would be a promotion sales video.
@@chasingcarsYes, it is pure sale promotion, because no bad point are brought forward. Thats why I reported Spam, misleading! good luck with that
Don't care for nannies...pass on Tank 300
Undrivable plastic jeep with 5yr lifetime, insane depreciation and safety issues. Where do I sign??! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
haha, have you seen the reliability of Jeeps!
Big seller and proven to be durable in china which is a massive market compared to little Australia
@@Monkeybrains90😅😅😅😅 so true
Not my kind of car.
Scrap metal or plastic after 7yrs if you are lucky.