Can you get Scatpack power with a cammed 5.7 Hemi?

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  • @Xing_Republic
    @Xing_Republic 10 днів тому

    Very cool. Convinced me to get Comp cams stage 2 220/230 with stainless long tube headers + high flow cats!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  10 днів тому +1

      @@Xing_Republic great combo!

  • @timbo713
    @timbo713 Рік тому

    Do you have a link to the kit you used. Mine's a 2017 R/T plus Diablo trinity tuner, Barton short throw shifter, cold air intake with hellcat adapter, Lomg tubes with high flo cats with Borla Atak catback . The cam swap I think would put it right where I want it. By the way your videos do help, The long tube and high flo cats were ordered right after I seen the intstall video you put out. Awesome vids keep them comin 👍

  • @highwaypatriot6906
    @highwaypatriot6906 8 місяців тому

    I've seen 3 scats (all stock) while waiting my turn on the dyno. Not one of them dropped 410 hp to the ground. You have a smidgen more than a scat brother.

  • @BloodyEnviouZ
    @BloodyEnviouZ 3 роки тому +7

    There have been days where I’ve woken up and immediately checked to see if you’d uploaded your Dyno Numbers since you said you’d upload a video on it very soon! That post was over a month ago ;-; But I’m super happy now that it’s here!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      My apologies for the delay! I still never got the proper graph emailed to me, had to rely on a phone photo of the screen to talk about what we’re seeing on the graph, that was part of the reason for the delay. Thanks for the patience! 🙏🏻

  • @DonnySRT
    @DonnySRT 3 роки тому +10

    I love the discussion on weather and correction factors. A year ago, people wouldn't pay any attention to that... Great numbers man. That's a healthy car.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Thanks Donny! It really is important not only for transparency but for easier comparison. Coming from a guy who's car rips as much as yours does, it's much appreciated!

  • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
    @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому

    Hope I didn't make a mistake. I bought the mmx no tune cam. It was to try and keep warranty since it doesn't require a tune, but can be tuned. Biught the Stainless Power"works" longtubes. I am about to purchase drag street radials, nito ntIIIR tires, or the Nitto nt05.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  Рік тому +1

      Nice! Back in the saddle!

    • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
      @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому

      @Track Pack R/T have you heard of anyone install one of those MMX no tune, no springs required cams?

    • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
      @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому

      They claim that their shop Dodge Ram Truck 1500, 2019 model with 5.7, produced an additional 30whp.
      They now have them for the 5.7 for mds, or non mds, and also same options for the 6.4 now. You would think the non mds would require a tune though.
      I am tempted to go with another Comp Cam , either the Stage1, or 2, or possibly even the 270 again like I did first other 2015 RT Challenger when I invested in those Scat Pack stage kits.
      It wouldn't be a waste of purchase, my wife also has a 2022 Dodge Charger 5.7 black top edition.

    • @Felipe-fy4wz
      @Felipe-fy4wz 10 місяців тому

      @@brokelahomachickenfry6497did u evr get it installed

    • @Felipe-fy4wz
      @Felipe-fy4wz 10 місяців тому

      @@brokelahomachickenfry6497i have stage xfi 266 in 5.7 made 404 whp

  • @BmanTX69
    @BmanTX69 2 роки тому

    Great video nice evil dead shirt

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      I’m a huge Evil Dead fan!

    • @BmanTX69
      @BmanTX69 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT same! I assume that means you are excited for the new movie!?!? Me and my brother in law are actually suppose to get a evil dead tattoo lol silhouette of ash with his broomstick and chainsaw 🤘🏻

    • @BmanTX69
      @BmanTX69 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT also going to get the new evil dead game too lol

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      @@BmanTX69 haha that's so wicked! One of my good buddies has "Evil Dead" tattoo'd across his knuckles which I thought was killer. I'm really stoked for the game! I've been keeping tabs on it through Bruce Campbells twitter, it looks awesome! Surprisingly I haven't heard anything about a movie! I was so bummed when they didn't renew Ash vs Evil dead for another season.

    • @BmanTX69
      @BmanTX69 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT oh wow I bet that looks so sick! I wanted to put Sinner on my knuckles (drowning pool album) lol
      Yeah man not much longer for the game and the movie is called Evil Dead Rise... it supposedly releases this year but I really haven't seem much on it

  • @stevesutton9200
    @stevesutton9200 3 роки тому +2

    That makes my mind up with the toss up between 392 stroker and camming my
    5.7. (The stroker costing alot more).Scat pack #'s is impressive.Very helpful video.Thanks Track Pack!!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      No problem Steve! The 5.7 has a lot of potential!

  • @hu3.789
    @hu3.789 3 роки тому +2

    No question Dodge leaves quite a bit on the table when it comes to the R/T. As stated the flat spot up top does point to a restriction. Normally a 2-1/2" exhaust would support up to about 500 crank horsepower. However, the cat back exhaust on the R/T is really bad. The problem has to do more with the bends than it does exhaust size. The reason being is that OEM exhaust systems aren't mandrel bent. This creates choke points where the bends are made. If going the naturally aspirated route, R/T enthusiasts will go with cam, headers, and exhaust. In addition, they may upgrade the throttle body and go with a 392 intake. The only additional cost is a tune and you're ready to go. Since this is all bolt on stuff, one can save a considerable amount of money by doing the labor rather than taking the car to a shop. If you pay someone to do all this work, you're getting into supercharger money. As for me if I owned and R/T, I would prefer to go with a supercharger. Add wheels and tires, remove the mid muffler, and call it good. There are a few advantages to this. Even if the rest of the car remains stock, the supercharged R/T will actually produce more power than a Scat Pack and it is easier to return to stock when you go to sell it. The disadvantage is the large outlay of money all at once. Having said that, there's nothing wrong going with the naturally aspirated alternative.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Hard to hate on a supercharged setup, they're great. In both scenarios the big thing is making sure the tune is bang on, especially with forced induction. The 12 week wait for a catback right now has me shaking my head though. lol

  • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
    @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому +1

    I see that 432whp. You had a manual, beat an auto scat twice about the same finish.
    So again, what about the 6.4 intake with an msd for the runners?

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  Рік тому

      I really like the 6.4 intake but I wanted to leave things open in case I had to replace the intake with something else somewhere down the road...

    • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
      @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому

      @@TrackPackRT possibly supercharger?

  • @idunno3639
    @idunno3639 3 роки тому +3

    That's awesome man! So cool to see. I did the 3.09 rear differential and 392 intake manifold with active runners. Putting on long tubes and an exhaust next. Tune that, then get a cam kit installed. Can't wait. Love following your build, thanks for the upload!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +2

      Nice! You'll love the headers, they make a night and day difference! Sounds like you have an awesome build going on there! Thanks for checking out the build man, much appreciated!

    • @TheGunBub
      @TheGunBub Рік тому +1

      Have you done that yet how much power are you putting down if so

  • @M4A3
    @M4A3 2 роки тому +2

    Skip to 7:28 to get past the incessant rambling lol

  • @StoonRay1
    @StoonRay1 3 роки тому +1

    Dude, I dont have a charger or challenger but am totally loving your channel. The info is fantastic, but its your delivery that is nailing. The fact that you are western canadian too? well, its a no brainer...subbed.

  • @justart7603
    @justart7603 2 роки тому

    I have a 14 charger pursuit 5.7 so far it has 90mm bbk throttle body, k&n cai, 3.06 lsd, 93 diablo tune, & catback straight pipe definitely doing jba long tubes & a cam still indecisive about what cam though . . . Raw build u got🔥🔥

    • @TheGunBub
      @TheGunBub Рік тому +1

      How much power are you putting down

  • @timchand4165
    @timchand4165 2 роки тому

    With stage 2 comp cam and e85 I made 420 hp with 2017 rt cost like 10k to do everything not worth it couldn't even pass Emissions in IL best to get a 392

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому

      I mean, if you're plan is to mod your car, you have to make a plan based on a budget/goal and execute. Paying someone to do a cam for you isn't cheap, it is a lot of work. I did the work myself, so all it cost me was parts. I think I was into it for 2 grand maybe all in? 420 hp sounds about right depending on the dyno, maybe a touch low for E85 (I don't know a ton about it because we don't have it here) but you'll get slightly different numbers dyno to dyno and you're in the ballpark anyway. If you're in a very strict emissions state you'd have to be very careful modding your car, some places make it very difficult to do legally. Like anything it just depends. I couldn't be happier with mine and it was 100% worth it. Especially the first couple times I beat a 392 at the track! Of course if you have budget and it's in the cards to snag a 392, that's great too, they're awesome! Either way you go it's a win.

  • @mattspontiacta
    @mattspontiacta 3 роки тому

    Awesome brother !!! Impressive numbers 👍

  • @BobSmith-ip1mb
    @BobSmith-ip1mb 3 роки тому +1

    Once again excellent video. Thanks so much! This helps me greatly, my build coming this winter, what do you think 1/4 mile at sea level? 12.3’s

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      My last runs corrected to a 12.6 @111 on a 20” wheel. On a drag pack it would be low 12’s. I know the auto guys definitely have the advantage as the auto cars are definitely quicker at the track. I think that has to do with the torque converter getting them out of the hole harder. I never get to see any manual Scats out at the track to compare though.

    • @BobSmith-ip1mb
      @BobSmith-ip1mb 3 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT is that with the lock out or just the limiter. Again thanks for your videos, you are truthful and detailed on your car. Wish you were in Ohio we could go racing!!!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      @@BobSmith-ip1mb that’s with the phase lock. Well I do want to make a trip down south next year maybe when everything is totally opened up and go racing with a lot of my American friends I’ve met through UA-cam, if I do you should absolutely come out!

    • @BobSmith-ip1mb
      @BobSmith-ip1mb 3 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT I will definitely will!!! Thanks again for everything!!! Keep rockin!!!!

  • @mattcat234
    @mattcat234 Рік тому

    Where did you get your Challenger tuned? CCMR?

  • @Desktopbeatzinc
    @Desktopbeatzinc 3 роки тому +1

    Hell yeah u can get scat pack power

  • @integragsr423
    @integragsr423 2 роки тому

    Was the dyno results on a mustang dyno

  • @schmoodhu
    @schmoodhu 2 роки тому

    Cool to see a local guy. My Ram is in the shop right now getting a HRT stage 2 and long tubes. I do have a Borla S-Type cat back already that I did see some gains from with only an aFe intake. I'm pretty stoked to see what is going to happen to my overall perofrmance. My numbers on my last Dyno run were 316 the the tires ( I don't remember the torque) with 35" off road tires. Great job on your car man. And keep on rockin!

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      That’s awesome, should be a beast when you’re all done! If you’re ever out at the track and see me kicking around stop by and say hi! Cheers!

  • @damico678
    @damico678 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man glad to see the car up doing even better. I just had some questions you may or may not be able to answer. I have a procharged challenger 5.7 looking to do a stage to cam. How’s the drivability on the car. Comp cams recommended the stage 1 because I said I like to street and strip it. However, it’s not a daily driver at all

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Drivability is great to be honest, it’s a really great all around setup. Great manners around town when you’re not into it. The gas mileage will definitely take a hit though. I should probably calculate it sometime, it’s not great though! But man does it ever pull hard when you get into it!

    • @damico678
      @damico678 3 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT awesome. I think I’m gonna go stage 2

  • @RalphbeingRalph
    @RalphbeingRalph 2 роки тому

    So just the stage 2 can get a 5.7 high 400

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      You got it! Honestly I love this setup!

    • @RalphbeingRalph
      @RalphbeingRalph 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT that’s great 😃 500 is a goal nothing more than that thank you for your content it’s helpful

  • @PacoRobbins
    @PacoRobbins 2 роки тому

    In a perfect world I'd cam the wife's 5.7, but I just can't bring myself to waste the money when I could just set those funds aside and put a huge down payment down on a super low mile SRT 392.

  • @ModernRedHemi
    @ModernRedHemi 3 роки тому

    The weather discussion (Density Altitude) is what people don't understand about dyno numbers as well. Weather just doesn't affect you at the track but at the dyno as well. Great video and some AWESOME numbers brother! Hey, lay off the boost brother! 😉

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much my friend! Haha I can’t hate on boots, I have a huge soft spot for super chargers! 👊🏻🙏🏻

  • @ScottSmith-ei7gv
    @ScottSmith-ei7gv 3 роки тому

    Good stuff man, have a 04 ram 5.7 with a k&N cone for the air intake and watching this video I put it back to stock. Only other thing is true duals with a flowmaster for the truck. Thinking about longs and cam tho. Awesome information sir

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Long tubes will really wake your truck up, I remember my first drive after installing long tubes was pretty mind blowing! Cheers!

    • @OfOld
      @OfOld 3 роки тому

      That's the route im takin with mine...along with a 6.4 intake

  • @javiercorreasr.2630
    @javiercorreasr.2630 2 роки тому

    I'm wondering what kind of gas you used on this Dyno run. I have an '12 R/T Classic (Automatic) with he following Mods: K&I CAI, Jet Performance 85mm Throttle Body, Comp Cam 274, Long tubes headers, Catalytic delete, 2.5" mandrel bends and Flowmaster Delta flow 40. My car scored 403 RWhp Using mid-grade gas (91 octane). The reason I did this is because is a Daily driver and I didn't wanted to save some money. Also Specs for my Auto 5.7 calls for mid-grade gas.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      My tune is for 94 octane. Pricey but you do pay to play. Plus it’s a really safe tune, no sense pushing it into the danger zone to gain 5hp and risk blowing things up. Could be the combination, I know the 274 is an awfully large cam for the 5.7. These pulls were all done on a dynojet as well, Mustang dynos read a little lower if the shop you went to was using one of them.

  • @Wbuj
    @Wbuj 3 роки тому

    Look into the 6.4 intake swap. I have that a joker cam, 3000stall, cat back, long tubes. It woke my car up after 90mph. I’m running mid 12s in good DA 2000 or less it’s a super nice swap if you get it done then you can run a hellcat air box

    • @Wbuj
      @Wbuj 3 роки тому

      I made around 435 sae corrected numbers. I’ve tried a number of intakes. An the only one that felt good in the seat was the 6.4. Stay away from the victor from elderbrock. Unless you go stroker

  • @ابوالعز-ز2ظ7ر
    @ابوالعز-ز2ظ7ر 8 місяців тому

    You car Headers 134 or 178 ?

  • @iCXRUX
    @iCXRUX 3 роки тому

    So cool🤙

  • @jameswhitesell3076
    @jameswhitesell3076 3 роки тому +2

    Ive been wondering about the phase limiter/ lockout myself. When i originally got a dyno tune, i had a cai, 3" catback, headers, cam, and ported the heads. After all that it made about 400hp/torque at 5300 and was flat all the way to 6200. I recently installed the 392 manifold with active srv, and a hellcat throttlbody. It defently seemed to help, but i have not gotten it dynoed again so im not sure if it really did help. Do you think the limiter should be replaced with a lockout?

  • @fredhether1610
    @fredhether1610 2 роки тому

    What mods have you done to the car That’s awesome

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому

      Long tube headers with high flow cats and a comp cams hrt stage 2 cam. Still using the factory catback!

  • @modisumocustoms9374
    @modisumocustoms9374 3 роки тому

    Wow, nice dyno results! I’m not sure what I can get away with in NY, so may not have the cam option, so far only CAI and Borla cat back. Looking forward to the next video.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Thanks man, the car pulls really hard and runs strong! Some long tube headers on your car will wake it up a lot!

  • @billverdon1755
    @billverdon1755 3 роки тому +1

    Very impressive numbers, congrats. Looks like there was no fan in front of your car. In that heat a fan might have helped your numbers a bit and I assume you no longer have the exhaust resonators. Thanks for the vid.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +1

      There was a fan that was ducted to outside air just in front of the driver side headlight. From the angle you can't see it though. The resonators are still in, it's factory exhaust after the high flow cats!

  • @Kuhladestkyicky
    @Kuhladestkyicky 3 роки тому

    It’s a driver’s race now vs a Scat.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      I’ve definitely noticed it’s a drivers race with all the 6th gen Camaro SS’s I keep lining up with at the track! I’ve had quite a few SS kills lately at the drag strip, but haven’t had any 392s to line up against. Soon I’m hoping!

  • @SrtChargerOldMan
    @SrtChargerOldMan 3 роки тому

    👍🔥🏁

  • @justindelgado3928
    @justindelgado3928 2 роки тому

    did you do any type of pistons changes ???

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому

      Nope, bottom end of the motor is totally stock.

    • @justindelgado3928
      @justindelgado3928 2 роки тому

      So you didn’t have to regap the rings

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому

      @@justindelgado3928 definitely not. I don’t know why you would want to. New cam, springs, keepers, seats and push rods with the cam kit.

    • @justindelgado3928
      @justindelgado3928 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT I was just wondering ik if you throw boost you would have to.........im just learning all this as i go lol

    • @justindelgado3928
      @justindelgado3928 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT i just ordered a 6.4 cam for my 5.7

  • @jermainepattum4416
    @jermainepattum4416 2 роки тому

    So do you think it would be better to dyno tune I have a street tune on my car at the moment

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      Dyno tunes are always good to nail a tune and really make sure your air/fuel ratio is bang on. Usually it’s really easy for a a tuner to nail a tune first try with a dyno tune and you know your a/f will be safe throughout the driving range.

    • @jermainepattum4416
      @jermainepattum4416 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT ok thanks I got 5.7 with tuned and ported stock intake stage 2 custom cam hellcat lifters and long tube headers really would like to see how much power I’m putting down as well.
      What kind mufflers are u running

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      @@jermainepattum4416 I still have the factory catback on! Haha

  • @bradfordmcdermott2063
    @bradfordmcdermott2063 2 роки тому

    I looked to get dyno tunned place in oakdale, ca i called , i have same hrt stage 2 cam, shorty headers and 6.4 intake manifold, vvt phase lock but they asked me if i have a torq converter i said no its abother $1,5000 did you have to get a torq converter?

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      I have a manual car, so it’s not something I had to look at. I know comp cams recommended a bigger converter with the stage 2 cam but I know quite a few autos with their stock converters that run just fine.

    • @bradfordmcdermott2063
      @bradfordmcdermott2063 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT ok cool thanks good to know yeah mines automatic 2009 RT just gonna keep looking for right dyno hard in cali. I live bay area none that do tune challengers sadly. Said without it i would have idle problems he didnt want to risk it. He disagreed with using a phase lock over phase limiter most of his tuning is off the limiter. I told the guy ur results on dyno but he didnt believe it

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      @@bradfordmcdermott2063 with a bigger cam it makes sense to lock it out. Donny RT lives in CA and has the same cam as me, I can’t remember which shop he said he used but they were pretty great for him to deal with. Check out his channel and give that shop a shout.

  • @orlandobenjamin5441
    @orlandobenjamin5441 3 роки тому

    Have you thought about changing or porting your intake manifold

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +1

      I've put a lot of thought into it. I kind of wanted to give it a shot, although in talking with my man Bmason he said there's a chance you won't pick up much if your manifold is one that is pretty clean from the factory. I'm still considering it though.

    • @jasonsedmak3077
      @jasonsedmak3077 3 роки тому +1

      That upper end flat line might very well be your 5.7 intake being that it’s long-runner all the way. It WOULD be very interesting to see if replacing it with the 392 intake (and wired to have functional SRV) clears up your restriction! I’ve got it on my car (still factory cam at the moment, but 392 shorties/cats) and it definitely makes a difference.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +1

      @@jasonsedmak3077 all of the before and after dyno runs I see of a 6.4 intake swap though show no real peak gains, it’s all more through the low/middle of the power curve where they add a little more power. Now that’s very usable power don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think it correlates to what I’m seeing in the graph. Sounds like you have a badass car sir.

  • @tone3560
    @tone3560 3 роки тому

    So what is your full mod list?

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Pretty small really. Comp Cams HRT stage 2 cam kit with a phase lock, Stainless Works long tube headers with high flow cats and a Corsa cold air intake.

  • @shakerxero2773
    @shakerxero2773 2 роки тому

    What's the HP/Torque at the engine?

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому +1

      At 15% drivetrain loss it puts power at the crank right at 485. A good way to verify that number is somewhat accurate is the fact that between 420-430 is roughly what a 392 will put down to the wheels and they’re rated at 485.

    • @shakerxero2773
      @shakerxero2773 2 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT woah! Just from a cam stage 2? That's insane! Thank you for getting back to me

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  2 роки тому

      @@shakerxero2773 just the cam and headers into a stock catback

  • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
    @brokelahomachickenfry6497 3 роки тому

    Any future change with the heads or intake manifold.

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому +1

      I don’t think I’ll mess with the heads, I’m going to keep the 5.7 intake, mainly I don’t like the idea of having to splice into my wiring harness for the 6.4 intake.

    • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
      @brokelahomachickenfry6497 3 роки тому

      @@TrackPackRT I agree. I had a couple of issues with the wiring st first then the msd box went out.

    • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
      @brokelahomachickenfry6497 Рік тому

      Or, keep your 5.7 intake manifold, but have it ported and clean up the flash

  • @brokelahomachickenfry6497
    @brokelahomachickenfry6497 3 роки тому

    What is your rev limiter set at?

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      I think it’s right at 6000. That’s what I’m shifting at anyways.

  • @cammedhemi2418
    @cammedhemi2418 3 роки тому

    How did u get ur torque to 416 I have 2016 challenger 5.7 (supertrack pak)a custom cammed with tune, long header, leg maker intake, 3.09 gears, 3inch exhaust no Catalytic converter, mds delete it's only at 385 torque but I'm at 430 horsepower (holla back)

    • @TrackPackRT
      @TrackPackRT  3 роки тому

      Interesting. Strange to put down that much more hp than tq on that setup. I wonder what the specs of that can are?