Holy xmas fuckin awesome squatting! Thanks also for mentioning the fact that a lifter needs to sort out according to his body mechanics the right form/technique/variables regarding grip, bar placement, knees, stance, width, head & elbow position, etc--what is optimal for some may not work for others. Inspiring video thanks
So funny reading comments on people saying what these guys need to improve on. They are just two of the top powerlifters in the world, and breaking world records, in the biggest powerlifting federations.
Cool Din Shut the hell up why don't you go train with these men and then see what it really takes. Steroids don't make you big. Training+steroids makes you big. You could be on so much gear and not lift and nothing would happen to your body
Cool Din Steroids by themselves cannot make you big. Someone who doesn't lift and takes them will not see any results. Nothing is hard to understand about that. Most pro BBs trained for 15+ years before going on and were huge when they were natural anyway. Do your research and stop pretending you know something about it.
Cool Din It enhances your potential depending on how many years you have been natural. If someone lifts for one year and jumps on not much will happen. Like you said if someone lifting for 10+ years go on it will of course make your body a powerhouse
This video is something special: the laid-back, but informative commentary, the multiple angles and minimal editing, the gradual build up to the final 800 and 900 lb squats; you don't see these kinds of characters and content anymore. It's been replaced with all the attention-seeking Tik-Tok hacks, the plastic, Gymshark Instagram bimbos, and just the general commercialization and hyper-media-centric character of the current-year fitness scene. I remember watching this video when it was uploaded, and have watched it every couple of years since (even though I'm not actively powerlifting anymore) just to remind myself of the Golden Era of the UA-cam powerlifting scene. Thanks for still having this up, Jim.
these vids are quick becoming my favorite things to watch! as soon as i get back to monterey, I'm making a trip up to boss barbell and super training gym! thanks for the vids guys!
I've had a similar issue with tight and weak hips. What JM said, but also I've had good results with using low box squats (mostly to keep depth consistent) below parallel, as an assistance movement, starting narrow and gradually moving my feet out as I'm able. Also going wide, I had to start with a higher box, then gradually lowering the box as able, keeping that wide stance. It takes time, but I've seen good improvement over the past few months. I'm old, so it might not take you as long. :)
You watched the whole video and THAT was your question? This was an after-hours session and the people who hung out to help, didn't really have anything else to do. We've been doing this long enough that we've seen strong lifters have accidents with relatively light weights. Shit happens.
Just got my Slingshot in the mail today... bummer, missed out on that $10 savings. Either way, these videos are awesome and informative. Thanks for the info and badass UA-cam channel.
I deadlift sumo style but if I widen my squat stance like those guys do my adductor tendons hurt(you know right and left of the balls) This happens when I externally rotate my hip in order to have a vertical shin to the ground. Should I push the ground OUT more instead of right down? Anyone else expirienced this?
happened to me,, never stretch your adductors after your workout,, go to sauna right after workout for 60 mins or so and then get a basketball or medicine ball,, use a knee height table and place the ball on table and your adductor above it,, basically loosen every muscle there,, then stretch your adductor by sitting down into wide stance squat and push ur knees out from inside using ur elbows.
Yeah I also do this stetch with the elbows on my knees, and i foam roll instead of the medicine ball... But never tried a sauna after my workout... I thought ice is better post workout, but anyway I'll try this out! Thnx!
never ice your muscles, even if u get injured... Instead rest the injured area and use compression band or massage to increase the blood flow.. ice decreases the blood flow which is okay for pain but it will hurt the recovery
It would be great to go to Super Training gym and get some face time with the elite lifters there. Just don't have much quality lifters in the north of Scotland
North Scotland?? Lol. I was just reading about North Scotland and the Republic of Scotland just last night. The former under British rule and the latter independent. Anyway, you have a super long flight to take :D
is this the common rule for depth? "...the top surface of the legs at the hip joint are lower than the top of the knees." - usapowerlifting,com would rhinos 605lbs squat get white lights? i´m not trying to talk shit or something i´m just here to learn.
fater watching stan and dan not hit their squats at the meet i was thinking the whole time about this video, wasnt this heavy session to close to the meet? i mean for the intensity this guys bring to the weightroom, this must be very stressfull to do and to comeback from, not hating at all, they are 2 of the strongest men of earth
Your statement about Efferding sounds convincing. However, I believe Dan Green uses a narrow grip, and wraps his wrists for support because of the pressure from the bar. Thanks.
Ivan Raynovski they're just trying to lift the maximum weight possible bro, going deeper requires more energy and so means they can handle less weight, parallel is the minimum requirement and so they do the minimum depth to let them hit the maximum weight
people talk about Stan's depth but of they actually watched all the way to the 905 squat they'd see that he definitely gets below parallel. seriously impressive
I don't know much about powerlifting but I'm curious. Why do they call it raw when they have knee wraps so tight they can hardly walk or bend their legs? I know it's not considered actual equipment/gear. But don't wraps assist at least 60lbs-80lbs possibly more if you have them on tight enough? I feel like knee sleeves would be closest to actual raw power.
Wraps don’t add that much to your squat first of all. They are healthier for your knees especially at these weights. To answer your question though, when this was filmed raw was a new division. Multiply era had just ended and all federations that had a raw division were raw with wraps. It is a distinguished difference on records and what not. Raw (at this time anyway) meant no squat suits, bench shirts, or deadlift suits. Realistically you might get 2.5-5% increase out of wraps, but they are far superior for knee health when going that heavy, so this is why wraps were still included in the raw divisions before others like the IPF and USPA added raw divisions that only allowed sleeves
MrGunfunfun Yea, most powerlifters would tell you to go down fast and blast up and use that bounce to power up the bar. But Stan has his own way, and u can't really say anything, cus the man just did 905... insane
MrGunfunfun There was a video with Chad and Stan where he said if he goes down any faster he looses stability. The both agreed that it's best to go down as fast as you can while maintaining form, even on big lifts.
+christopher russell The shorter the distance the bar has to travel the better, which is a tactic in powerlifting. However, one simply cannot generate as much force using a shoulder width stance as opposed to a wider stance. This is a matter of biomechanics and physiology. If a narrow stance was a viable option, powerlifters would use it.
I have never seen 905 move that fast. Its crazy. The guy goes down slow, looks like he is going to fold and then goes "FUCK YOU WEIGHT!" Badass vid. Also, love Mark Bell's man crush on Dan Green and his pretty hair hahahaha.
I may be wrong, but I personally don't know of a single federation that judges depth by that criteria, so why would you? It's completely unfair, especially to people who have massive quads.
what does it mean to be a "raw" powerlifter? i had the impression it meant no equipment/no drugs...can someone clarify this please...looks like he's wearing a belt and knee wraps...
Your impression was incorrect. For one, "raw" has nothing to do with drugs one way or another. There is no drug free anyway -- only "drug tested." Belts are allowed in all federations for raw powerlifting. Some kind of knee covering, either knee sleeves or knee wraps, is allowed in all federations. All feds allow wrist wraps. You have confused "ultra raw" training with raw competitive powerlifting.
In power lifting competitions, going raw means to lift without a squat suit and bench press shirt, what they do is give support and increase pressure. Raw lifters are allowed to lift with a belt, knee wraps/sleeves
Down to which federation you're watching.. IPF.. Strictest include no knee wraps just sleeves, BPO knee wraps.. Not sure which others in murica there are.. :)
Holy xmas fuckin awesome squatting! Thanks also for mentioning the fact that a lifter needs to sort out according to his body mechanics the right form/technique/variables regarding grip, bar placement, knees, stance, width, head & elbow position, etc--what is optimal for some may not work for others. Inspiring video thanks
The only super training videos worth a damn. I hope these never get taken down.
This was the golden era of supertraining! Wish they would get back to pros moving big weight again!
that 905 was on Stans back for a full 15 seconds, fucking crazy
One of the best lifting videos on youtube
this video just spiked my testosterone up to 5 times the legal limit
Jacob Ferrell steroids
So funny reading comments on people saying what these guys need to improve on. They are just two of the top powerlifters in the world, and breaking world records, in the biggest powerlifting federations.
+christopher russell Most guys are on something man. Just because they might be using steroids doesn't make it easy.
Cool Din Shut the hell up why don't you go train with these men and then see what it really takes. Steroids don't make you big. Training+steroids makes you big. You could be on so much gear and not lift and nothing would happen to your body
Cool Din Steroids by themselves cannot make you big. Someone who doesn't lift and takes them will not see any results. Nothing is hard to understand about that. Most pro BBs trained for 15+ years before going on and were huge when they were natural anyway. Do your research and stop pretending you know something about it.
Cool Din It enhances your potential depending on how many years you have been natural. If someone lifts for one year and jumps on not much will happen. Like you said if someone lifting for 10+ years go on it will of course make your body a powerhouse
This video is something special: the laid-back, but informative commentary, the multiple angles and minimal editing, the gradual build up to the final 800 and 900 lb squats; you don't see these kinds of characters and content anymore. It's been replaced with all the attention-seeking Tik-Tok hacks, the plastic, Gymshark Instagram bimbos, and just the general commercialization and hyper-media-centric character of the current-year fitness scene.
I remember watching this video when it was uploaded, and have watched it every couple of years since (even though I'm not actively powerlifting anymore) just to remind myself of the Golden Era of the UA-cam powerlifting scene. Thanks for still having this up, Jim.
Stan's squat stance goes so hard. The dude looks like a superhero!
And another video goes into my squat day pre-training playlist. Thanks for the uploads.
It's crazy how Stan only uses 1 finger per hand to hold onto the bar and it looks so damn stable
Try it, it forces you to get the bar in the right position and not rely on your hands to hold it in place
There’s 18 year old kids throwing up these weight now, how insane this was compared to now
It's really interesting to check out their squat form from the different angles, thanks for including those.
these vids are quick becoming my favorite things to watch! as soon as i get back to monterey, I'm making a trip up to boss barbell and super training gym! thanks for the vids guys!
Great. Let us know when you're coming.
That speed on the 905 though! Oh my goodness!
I've had a similar issue with tight and weak hips. What JM said, but also I've had good results with using low box squats (mostly to keep depth consistent) below parallel, as an assistance movement, starting narrow and gradually moving my feet out as I'm able. Also going wide, I had to start with a higher box, then gradually lowering the box as able, keeping that wide stance. It takes time, but I've seen good improvement over the past few months. I'm old, so it might not take you as long. :)
Finally side views of Stan. Thanks for all of this Jim!
Thanks for the vid Jim. Worth the wait!!!!
gods among men.. seriously these gentleman are so impressive, as well as inspirational. Great vid, keep up the good work gents.
Best YT powerlifting channel, keep that awesome work!
You watched the whole video and THAT was your question? This was an after-hours session and the people who hung out to help, didn't really have anything else to do. We've been doing this long enough that we've seen strong lifters have accidents with relatively light weights. Shit happens.
From the front, some of those squats looked high, but the side angle shows most of them were to parallel. These guys are incredible.
Just got my Slingshot in the mail today... bummer, missed out on that $10 savings. Either way, these videos are awesome and informative. Thanks for the info and badass UA-cam channel.
Great, great video of two great lifters. Thanks!
Amazing. The only word to
Describe it.
Damn they had people loading weights and spotting for they're training session. That would be so fun to have that. Super training is sick
Who wouldn't want to load weights for those two, though?
Dan's face at the end of the video.... that was tough, even for him!
Unreal this channel rocks!
Still the most epic squat session ever
That video left an impression! Well done gents!
Fantastic video, great athletes!
I deadlift sumo style but if I widen my squat stance like those guys do my adductor tendons hurt(you know right and left of the balls) This happens when I externally rotate my hip in order to have a vertical shin to the ground. Should I push the ground OUT more instead of right down? Anyone else expirienced this?
happened to me,, never stretch your adductors after your workout,, go to sauna right after workout for 60 mins or so and then get a basketball or medicine ball,, use a knee height table and place the ball on table and your adductor above it,, basically loosen every muscle there,, then stretch your adductor by sitting down into wide stance squat and push ur knees out from inside using ur elbows.
Yeah I also do this stetch with the elbows on my knees, and i foam roll instead of the medicine ball... But never tried a sauna after my workout... I thought ice is better post workout, but anyway I'll try this out! Thnx!
never ice your muscles, even if u get injured... Instead rest the injured area and use compression band or massage to increase the blood flow.. ice decreases the blood flow which is okay for pain but it will hurt the recovery
don't know why this popped on my recommended, but I miss this era of powerlifting
Was an interesting time for sure
That 905 was insane !
Such explosive power coming up from those squats. Insane!!
It would be great to go to Super Training gym and get some face time with the elite lifters there. Just don't have much quality lifters in the north of Scotland
North Scotland?? Lol. I was just reading about North Scotland and the Republic of Scotland just last night. The former under British rule and the latter independent. Anyway, you have a super long flight to take :D
EvilSecondTwin This is sarcasm right?
Knee wraps are the Metal Silvers. 2.5 m
is this the common rule for depth?
"...the top surface of the legs at the hip joint are lower than the top of the knees."
- usapowerlifting,com
would rhinos 605lbs squat get white lights?
i´m not trying to talk shit or something i´m just here to learn.
Yes, that is the rule. No, he did not satisfy it.
Definitely can't argue depth on either of those massive squats.
fater watching stan and dan not hit their squats at the meet i was thinking the whole time about this video, wasnt this heavy session to close to the meet? i mean for the intensity this guys bring to the weightroom, this must be very stressfull to do and to comeback from, not hating at all, they are 2 of the strongest men of earth
What shoes does the rhino wear? They're cool
titan THP wraps im pretty sure. Thanks for answering on the shoes.
do you guys have any flexibility tips? i can squat deep with a narrow stance but when I go wide my hips feel super tight
Thank you for the video, thumbs up.
That grip that Stan Efferding uses is unusual, though Mike Bridges used a wide grip too. Does he ever explain it? Thanks.
his back is too big,
usually they say grab the bar and bend it with your lats, some people can go close some cant
dan green uses same technique
Your statement about Efferding sounds convincing. However, I believe Dan Green uses a narrow grip, and wraps his wrists for support because of the pressure from the bar. Thanks.
a ectoman yes thats what i meant
a very upright torso? close to vertical shins, maybe?
Where u get that ST T-shirt??
I want that one 2
I love this shit! I can watch this all day!
what kind of knee wraps is Dan using?
supertraining.tv needs its own cable channel
This weight would snap me in half. but i'll get there... one day... soon. few years... 5-10 years... fuck yea!
remuko18 its almost been 5.. Are you there yet?!
Been 10 yeaes. Are you there yet?
@@SinnedNogara highest i got was 700 deadlift, 575 quat and 405 bench. belt only. i quit the sport 4 years ago
Can someone tell me why are Stan and Dan not breaking parrallel depth? Is it because of the rules of the federation they compete in?
Ivan Raynovski they're just trying to lift the maximum weight possible bro, going deeper requires more energy and so means they can handle less weight, parallel is the minimum requirement and so they do the minimum depth to let them hit the maximum weight
It’s below parallel dick
They're going for record or near-record lifts, so anyone is going to cut it close at that effort. To be honest though, those wouldn't pass in IPF.
people talk about Stan's depth but of they actually watched all the way to the 905 squat they'd see that he definitely gets below parallel. seriously impressive
please forgive my ignorance but how is Stan so fast coming up from the squat and so slow going down into it?
its his technique, more control of the lift, explosive up
stan is a monster he will hit a grande in no time
Tyng. ATG is great and but when powerlifting, it's more conducive going just below parallel.
The magic of ST Gym.
Absolutely.... Fricking... Incredible
how come Stan is never really 100% upright before and after his heavy squats?
what constitutes an elite spotter?
How jacked is Stan’s back that he can have his fingers barely around the bar and still put the bar low
Sick video!! Stan n Dan are FREAKS!
I think he usually weighs about 240-245 but drops to 220 for meets
Was Stan's 905 a PR?
Dan looks so young here
And skinny!
You are welcome...and thank your friend for me.
brb speed set with 905, i dont understand
905 Squat....unbelievable....
Efferding is one of the best ever, watch the Rhino at work
Super you put down the weights in kilograms too
Just switch to lifting cars, the one who lifts the range rover takes the cup
I don't know much about powerlifting but I'm curious. Why do they call it raw when they have knee wraps so tight they can hardly walk or bend their legs? I know it's not considered actual equipment/gear. But don't wraps assist at least 60lbs-80lbs possibly more if you have them on tight enough? I feel like knee sleeves would be closest to actual raw power.
Wraps don’t add that much to your squat first of all. They are healthier for your knees especially at these weights. To answer your question though, when this was filmed raw was a new division. Multiply era had just ended and all federations that had a raw division were raw with wraps. It is a distinguished difference on records and what not. Raw (at this time anyway) meant no squat suits, bench shirts, or deadlift suits. Realistically you might get 2.5-5% increase out of wraps, but they are far superior for knee health when going that heavy, so this is why wraps were still included in the raw divisions before others like the IPF and USPA added raw divisions that only allowed sleeves
Look up "Mobility WOD"
Thanks! and you're welcome.
do you even lift?
Incredible
Dunno how much he is in this video, but he's usually 250lbs and competes at 220lbs.
can you even squat 405? exactly
unreal shit goin down at st gym
nice!
Rather that he puts the bar lower and thus means he has to lean forward more than usual to keep his position stable and focused.
Stan is getting close to Malanichev....now that would be a good match up...
Why does stan go down slow? I thought you should try to go faster than that in order not to fatigue so much.
MrGunfunfun To maintain core and back tightness.
Usually you decelerate slow nd power back up fast.
Wen your going for reps then you do fast.
But wen building power. It's like that.
MrGunfunfun Yea, most powerlifters would tell you to go down fast and blast up and use that bounce to power up the bar. But Stan has his own way, and u can't really say anything, cus the man just did 905... insane
MrGunfunfun There was a video with Chad and Stan where he said if he goes down any faster he looses stability. The both agreed that it's best to go down as fast as you can while maintaining form, even on big lifts.
+christopher russell The shorter the distance the bar has to travel the better, which is a tactic in powerlifting. However, one simply cannot generate as much force using a shoulder width stance as opposed to a wider stance. This is a matter of biomechanics and physiology. If a narrow stance was a viable option, powerlifters would use it.
Yes
I think he usually cuts about 20lbs for his meets, so he probably is more like 240lbs here. Still crazy muscularity for his weight, no doubt!
Awsome
Nice, but who's the Blondie at 1:45? Holy crap...more of her.
I have never seen 905 move that fast. Its crazy. The guy goes down slow, looks like he is going to fold and then goes "FUCK YOU WEIGHT!" Badass vid. Also, love Mark Bell's man crush on Dan Green and his pretty hair hahahaha.
why does stan lower the weight so slowly? isn't that wasting tons of energy? seems like he's basically squatting it twice
bob dole he's lowering it as fast as he can lower it while maintaining stability. If he could lower it faster, he would.
why does no one else do that..? there is no way that doesnt hurt how much he can lift
thanks man :)
Ithink on kk you can see the asb thru a t-shirt
Nice
Only dan green and stan efferding could make mark bell look small in a picture
"40lb PR...MOTHER OF GOD"
Damn, wish I lived in Cali!
ed coans quads actually went below his knees, like they should in a competition style squat!
I may be wrong, but I personally don't know of a single federation that judges depth by that criteria, so why would you? It's completely unfair, especially to people who have massive quads.
If Stan wanted his toes inward more I think he would have done that. It looks like he gets a ton of power from his adductors and hamstrings.
what does it mean to be a "raw" powerlifter? i had the impression it meant no equipment/no drugs...can someone clarify this please...looks like he's wearing a belt and knee wraps...
Your impression was incorrect. For one, "raw" has nothing to do with drugs one way or another. There is no drug free anyway -- only "drug tested." Belts are allowed in all federations for raw powerlifting. Some kind of knee covering, either knee sleeves or knee wraps, is allowed in all federations. All feds allow wrist wraps. You have confused "ultra raw" training with raw competitive powerlifting.
Jim McDonald Further..this is a training session.
Ahh ic...well thanks for clarifying! much appreciated
In power lifting competitions, going raw means to lift without a squat suit and bench press shirt, what they do is give support and increase pressure. Raw lifters are allowed to lift with a belt, knee wraps/sleeves
Down to which federation you're watching.. IPF.. Strictest include no knee wraps just sleeves, BPO knee wraps.. Not sure which others in murica there are.. :)
You're welcome
Dan Green has some serious balls