Only complaint about all Mark and Jim's videos is that they keep me up till 3 in the morning completely unable to stop watching. Awesome vids, awesome lifters and awesome tips. Just wish there were more gyms like this in Australia.
Hi Jim, I think that the reason that a lot of people don't like knee wraps being used in "raw" competition is because rather than being a subtle addition that does a lot to prevent injury (like a belt), the knee wraps are being wrapped very tight in a fashion that adds weight to your total. The "raw" concept, although new, would seem to imply that no "primarily weight adding" gear is used. Knee sleeves, however, are mostly for keeping knees warm and injury free. Just my two cents.
Crazy video, I can't wait to see where pete goes with his lifting career. One thing to point out though is that the depth on a couple of those squats didn't look parallel. Not taking anything away from these guys but I just call what I see.
Knee wraps and weight belt are protective. They don't allow you to lift more weight, they just let you lift higher amounts of weight safely (without injuring back, blowing out knees, etc.) Non raw would be wearing some kind of assist giving clothing, such as a squat suit or bench shirt (which allow you to 'slingshot' the weight due to their elastic construction).
19:24... very, VERY smart spotting from Big Bird. Anyone can clearly see that he held-on until he felt that Eric had enough strength to walk on his own.
Oh! And one natural lifter that comes to mind would be Ben Rice. He does have a channel, and you can search him by name. I'm sure there are many others out there but he's by far one of the more impressive ones as he's been training 10+ years and got started young.
Ooohh in that case he has a lotta balls jumping to 793 after missing 788 esp raw (even though I know hes more than capable of 800+). was he hurt when he bottomed out the last attempt? thought i heard something pop..
Nope, as long as your hip crease goes below parallel, you can come up any way you want. You don't get credit for form. All that matters is that it comes back up from depth.
YES. SUPERB . INSPIRING . IM NATURAL ... BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT ! .. THEY INSPIRE ME... ESPECIALLY STAN WHO IS ALMOST MY AGE.... BUT ALL JUST REALLY GREAT. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO MARK !!
Oh I know why people say what they say, but anyone who doesn't think a belt is assistive has never used one with a true max weight. The knee wrap vs knee sleeve issue is more about splitting hairs than it is anything else. Think of it this way, if people didn't think they perform better when they use belts, knee sleeves, etc., would they use them?
People I earnestly ask you guys, please give me advice on the following respectively: 1) how to cut down from 295 lbs (29% bf) to a better weight without losing muscle mass and power ( I am down to do anything but all natural for now) 2) what can I do to improve my bench's balance and keep my butt on the bench while I'm benching? 3) my squat and deads are great thanks to god and still improving to Dan's or Stan's level :). Tell me some upcoming meets please that I can compete in. I am drug free! I live in LA, California. I really appreciate the help.
Well, you're right about one thing...you're no powerlifter. There are different definitions of raw in different federations but every one of them allows a belt and some kind of knee protection or another...either knee wraps or knee sleeves. Using briefs, a squat suit or a bench shirt is never considered raw.
Jim McDonald Raw for all intents and purposes to most people in the world means no belt no wraps mate. That's what the abdominals & tendons / ligaments are for. PowerLifting is a great sport.....
Judging from the video and the numbers posted didnt Green open with 788, gut it out and then miss 793 twice? The vid says his opener was 755 and that he missed it which doesnt look to be the case. it looks like he gutted out 788 for his opener then wisely made a small jump and missed it twice. the ways its labeled makes it look like he missed 788 then jumped to 793 which would be like when paul jorden when against pacifico in 76
i have seen a 30 KG bar but it has a much thicker grip hard to pick up if you don't have awesome grip but the bar they use looks normal but i suppose you never know
In the video Mark Bell says over throwing the hip backward will put too much pressure on the lower back. why is Ben Rice have a much different squat form comparing to these guys. Is 600 lb ish not heavy enough
pete weighs a good 50 lbs less than almost everyone there. plus his best lift is deadlift were its pretty much on par with evryone there. espically now he just hit a 800lb deadlift for a double beltless
there is no better feeling than a shit load of weight on your shoulders. as scary as it is sometimes the feeling of your head exploding and every muscle in your body being crushed by a truck is addictive! most people never experience this
i dont normally comment but stan the rhyno strongest body builder no way ronnie cole man squatted 800lbs dead lifted 800lbs and did 2,500 lbs on the leg press he is the strongest to ever doit
Screw leg presses. Anybody can lift heavy on a leg press. There's a guy at my gym who can barely bench 185 and he can't even get it down to his chest. He lives off cheat reps. Anyway he goes over to leg press and puts six 45s on each side and presses with no probs. He can barely squat 135 for 3 reps and he doesn't hit parallel. Point is anybody can go heavy on leg press.
ATG Assassin its funny you say that, do leg presses come in a variety of angles? cause my gyms leg press i can only load 3 plates each side and thats enough for me, but ill squat 1 plate each side on the bar all day (i know im weak but w,e)
He probably didn't feel like bombing out. Usually the rule is; first attempt hit a weight you can solidly do 3 reps with. Second attempt is what you can hit for a heavy single. And third attempt is balls to the walls.
Mark: "As a matter of fact, even to be in this (lilibridge) family you have to deadlift at least 771 lbs, or you're permanently exile from the family" lol
Ok i dont know much about power lifting, but I was curious to know even if its just the guys in this video, do they take steroids, and if so can you name me an all natural power lifter. I wasent to sure about it because I know that power lifter will eat anywhere from 10000-15000 calories in a day, so i could understand if the size they get is all natural.
Only complaint about all Mark and Jim's videos is that they keep me up till 3 in the morning completely unable to stop watching. Awesome vids, awesome lifters and awesome tips. Just wish there were more gyms like this in Australia.
Came back one year later and I was going to comment how good the spotters were, again. Magnificent work keeping the athletes healthy.
It's easy to get hooked.. and end up watching his videos for hours..
great video, great lifters huge motivation! thanks Jim
Awsome loved every second of this bud
Thanks a lot
really cool vid, well presented and narrated
This takes me back.
Really great video, thanks. The commentary seems like it'd be great for TV too.
Really great video and commentary I hope you'll have the same kind of vids of the meet in march aswell :)
great video. great raw squat
Thank you for the video, thumbs up.
Oh look, they have safety straps around the bar instead of 100 pound kids to spot it, because the people in charge aren't morons!
And the spots each look about 200lbs
Those traps.
superhuman strenght. These guys are awesome
awesome video!
These guys are BEAST.
Hi Jim, I think that the reason that a lot of people don't like knee wraps being used in "raw" competition is because rather than being a subtle addition that does a lot to prevent injury (like a belt), the knee wraps are being wrapped very tight in a fashion that adds weight to your total. The "raw" concept, although new, would seem to imply that no "primarily weight adding" gear is used. Knee sleeves, however, are mostly for keeping knees warm and injury free. Just my two cents.
Inspirational stuff here!
I'm amazed that this was only about two years ago, an Eric is now squatting well over 1,000 pounds raw
Gotta love Pete & Dan
"wonderful shade of purple" haha love it
That dude pete more or less adds a good morning in on the 300kg lol.....MAD!! Great vid hi
good stuff!
That dude Rubish has some sweet deep squatting form. Seriously amazing.
Crazy video, I can't wait to see where pete goes with his lifting career. One thing to point out though is that the depth on a couple of those squats didn't look parallel. Not taking anything away from these guys but I just call what I see.
i loled, good on you Jim
man, pete was a fucking animal when he was taking tren, his intensity was crazy
Pet Roobish is on The Yew Toobes. :p ( subbed and liked i'm just kidding with you i found it funny how you said it)
great commentary mark ever thought about being on espn :)
How the hell does Eric Lilliebridge stay so upright during his squats?
Long torso
how, could you please link me to a video demonstrating that, thanks man.
Actually the error is the in the summary screen saying that Dan't opener was no lift. That lift was actually good. The next two were no lift.
Very, Very Strong mans! Monsterman!!!!
I don't know. Maybe someone else will or maybe Pete will jump on and answer. You might try asking him directly on his channel or Facebook.
Anyone know how I can get better form for my squat? I'm not really sure if i'm going down far enough
i have that lower back problem he was talking about so he is saying to force my knees out when i'm squatting?
Knee wraps and weight belt are protective. They don't allow you to lift more weight, they just let you lift higher amounts of weight safely (without injuring back, blowing out knees, etc.) Non raw would be wearing some kind of assist giving clothing, such as a squat suit or bench shirt (which allow you to 'slingshot' the weight due to their elastic construction).
And who of them has the best raw total at 275...and is a pro bodybuider?
Jim, When you guys put on meets, what FED are you guys? Thanks. Great Vids btw!
19:24... very, VERY smart spotting from Big Bird. Anyone can clearly see that he held-on until he felt that Eric had enough strength to walk on his own.
What song plays at the beginning ?
djona132 It's just some production music.
Jim McDonald okay,thanks.
is that a 30 Kg bar or are all the weights off by +2.5 kg?
Dan Green is coming to GPC nationals in Melbourne Australia. How will I compete in a comp with a God? lol
Hi not exactly sure how it works in america but i think the bar is 20KG and the side clamps make up the rest
Oh! And one natural lifter that comes to mind would be Ben Rice. He does have a channel, and you can search him by name. I'm sure there are many others out there but he's by far one of the more impressive ones as he's been training 10+ years and got started young.
Damn for being all natural deyr beasts!!
Dan green is a beast
I noticed when Stan did 905 at ST, he was in flat soles wrestling shoes. Think the raised heel through him off balance?
The bar is heavy. The weights shown here are rounded some. The actual weight of the bar is taken into consideration by the loading program.
Whats your opinons on Carl Yngvar?
You're welcome, man.
Dan green is my favorite powerlifter!!! next to mark of course
Ooohh in that case he has a lotta balls jumping to 793 after missing 788 esp raw (even though I know hes more than capable of 800+). was he hurt when he bottomed out the last attempt? thought i heard something pop..
How low yer man green keeps the bar is unreal! That would rip my arms right off
It's counted as a no lift if you good morning the weight up, right?
Nope, as long as your hip crease goes below parallel, you can come up any way you want. You don't get credit for form. All that matters is that it comes back up from depth.
+bistel1432 Thank you for the info. Really appreciate it.
nah just hit depth
BTW best spotter ever.
i wish my dad would encourage me like that...
YES. SUPERB . INSPIRING . IM NATURAL ... BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT ! .. THEY INSPIRE ME... ESPECIALLY STAN WHO IS ALMOST MY AGE.... BUT ALL JUST REALLY GREAT. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO MARK !!
why did stan pass on first squat attempt? he needed more time to warm up?
815... nuts man nuts
The eyes aren't yellow, just blood shot from squatting. Seems like you would recognize that if you're watching this video.
Oh I know why people say what they say, but anyone who doesn't think a belt is assistive has never used one with a true max weight. The knee wrap vs knee sleeve issue is more about splitting hairs than it is anything else. Think of it this way, if people didn't think they perform better when they use belts, knee sleeves, etc., would they use them?
Papa Lila Bridge looks like he can kick some serious ass in this powerlifting meet.
I think he still does
is that Lilliebridge guy ok after that did he burst a blood vessel in his head?
People I earnestly ask you guys, please give me advice on the following respectively: 1) how to cut down from 295 lbs (29% bf) to a better weight without losing muscle mass and power ( I am down to do anything but all natural for now)
2) what can I do to improve my bench's balance and keep my butt on the bench while I'm benching?
3) my squat and deads are great thanks to god and still improving to Dan's or Stan's level :). Tell me some upcoming meets please that I can compete in. I am drug free! I live in LA, California. I really appreciate the help.
Eric Lilliebridge's physique is insane
I think Ernie Lilliebridge, Jr are lifting 285 kg in the first and second atempt, not 295 kg?
Well, you're right about one thing...you're no powerlifter. There are different definitions of raw in different federations but every one of them allows a belt and some kind of knee protection or another...either knee wraps or knee sleeves. Using briefs, a squat suit or a bench shirt is never considered raw.
Jim McDonald Raw for all intents and purposes to most people in the world means no belt no wraps mate. That's what the abdominals & tendons / ligaments are for. PowerLifting is a great sport.....
Judging from the video and the numbers posted didnt Green open with 788, gut it out and then miss 793 twice? The vid says his opener was 755 and that he missed it which doesnt look to be the case. it looks like he gutted out 788 for his opener then wisely made a small jump and missed it twice. the ways its labeled makes it look like he missed 788 then jumped to 793 which would be like when paul jorden when against pacifico in 76
i have seen a 30 KG bar but it has a much thicker grip hard to pick up if you don't have awesome grip but the bar they use looks normal but i suppose you never know
In the video Mark Bell says over throwing the hip backward will put too much pressure on the lower back. why is Ben Rice have a much different squat form comparing to these guys. Is 600 lb ish not heavy enough
I'm pretty sure the collars are 2.5 kg here, so the bar must be 30 kg... I know that there are definately 25k bars, but never heard of a 30 kg one :S
pete weighs a good 50 lbs less than almost everyone there. plus his best lift is deadlift were its pretty much on par with evryone there. espically now he just hit a 800lb deadlift for a double beltless
Stan came outta the hole STRONG.
Pete "anything but" Rubish !!! Opening lift is a fine example of a good, honest raw squat.
amazing video. that guy is 22 holy fuck..
there is no better feeling than a shit load of weight on your shoulders. as scary as it is sometimes the feeling of your head exploding and every muscle in your body being crushed by a truck is addictive! most people never experience this
damnnn pete rubish the only one to squat below parallel. Most of the others hit parallel though.
Pete has a bit of an elbow asymmetry. One elbow was shooting up while the other stays under the bar.
i dont normally comment but stan the rhyno strongest body builder no way ronnie cole man squatted 800lbs dead lifted 800lbs and did 2,500 lbs on the leg press he is the strongest to ever doit
Stan has deadlifted more than 800, squatted more than 800 and benched over 600lbs, so yes he is much stronger than ronnie and at a lower body weight
Yes and the rhino did it raw mr. Coleman used a squat suit, wraps with his deadlift and no one gives a shit about how much he leg pressed.
Screw leg presses. Anybody can lift heavy on a leg press. There's a guy at my gym who can barely bench 185 and he can't even get it down to his chest. He lives off cheat reps. Anyway he goes over to leg press and puts six 45s on each side and presses with no probs. He can barely squat 135 for 3 reps and he doesn't hit parallel. Point is anybody can go heavy on leg press.
stan squatted more than 900 lb bro
ATG Assassin its funny you say that, do leg presses come in a variety of angles? cause my gyms leg press i can only load 3 plates each side and thats enough for me, but ill squat 1 plate each side on the bar all day (i know im weak but w,e)
Machine
ok thanks. I didn't know they made 30k bars
He probably didn't feel like bombing out. Usually the rule is; first attempt hit a weight you can solidly do 3 reps with. Second attempt is what you can hit for a heavy single. And third attempt is balls to the walls.
dang dan green has some serious legs.
Mark: "As a matter of fact, even to be in this (lilibridge) family you have to deadlift at least 771 lbs, or you're permanently exile from the family"
lol
anyone notice that dan green fails all 3 lifts but in the results it said he got the 788 when he clearly did not?
in the first round it said he didn't get 755 and in second round he didn't get 788 but it said he did???
TheNietzschian yeah and if i didn't miss something he failed all 3 squats
onzku The titling is wrong. He made the first squat
I think dan descends again while he is on way up then recovers and ascends again. should be no lift normally.
what federation?
Think there is no federation only raw or geard that matters
yeah you can really see how they help you lift the weight
Man.... Dan looks like hes gonna destroy his rotator cuffs
Damn my PR of 475lbs is baby weight compared to these guys lifts i wonder what the weight you need to get to qualify ???
why would Eric start at 771, he went up to 900... wouldn't a higher opener be a little better?
no way that 22 year old is all natural :P but good for him, huge strength.
Why did Dan struggle so much?
4:15 Wow
sheeit - respect
Ok i dont know much about power lifting, but I was curious to know even if its just the guys in this video, do they take steroids, and if so can you name me an all natural power lifter. I wasent to sure about it because I know that power lifter will eat anywhere from 10000-15000 calories in a day, so i could understand if the size they get is all natural.
"hes motto is: Its better to look good than lift good" Right... i think 90% of the people there disagree badly with him
to think eric is almost squatting 300 lbs more than he does in this vid
he is also 40lb heavier, and doesn't squat as deep
+mynypwn Did I miss him squatting like 1125-1200 in the gym? lololol
A 420kg squat raw that hit depth @ 125kg and you can name 10 stronger powerlifters?
Please, feel free.
If you could name them, you would have.
Damn @ `13 min.