I was at the flight sim expo in Las Vegas last week and there were a number of Velocity One flight yokes set up and I noticed they did not have the strong detent or the stickiness that is present in the older models. I believe they must have made some improvements to the design. I have the 3D printed support rollers on mine and they do work as well. About a year ago I tried to do a mod similar to yours but rather than remove the washers I used string tie to collapse two coils of the spring effectively making it slightly shorter and weaker.
I tried your mod and it works quite well, but I didn’t like that the springs rattles and scraped on the metal shaft. What I did was make my own bumpers with 1cm length of 15mm Pushfit tubing - it’s has the perfect internal diameter for the shaft and, with a small amount of filing, fits nice and snug inside the spring. Best of both worlds 😊
That's a great and easy fix indeed, though I agree with @TWOKDOK1 the nylon washers are here for a reason (mostly contact wear and noise). So in my case I put them in the drill and reduced their diameter with a file :) I reduce the diameter from 27mm to ~23mm and they can now travel freely through the middle detent groove. I had to remove the black rubber and foam pads first to easily file the white tefflon part, and then I sticked it again on the tefflon and cut the part that was going outside the tefflon. It works pretty great now :)
The thing about this is that on a real plane, the yoke will tend to want to center the faster you're flying. It's like a natural detent. The wind over the elevators makes them want to go neutral at high speeds. During landing it's much less of an issue. If you find the tension to high to maintain a certain position of the yoke, you could always use trim like we do in real planes. I use trim constantly. That being said.....I have this on order so you might be right and this could be a great mod...I will see what it feels like but I'll bet even without the mod it's going to be an enormous improvement over my old CH Yoke and Rudder pedals!
Very well put together video and clearly explained. Thank you. That 'detente' at the neutral point is really annoying on landing. This looks like it does the job. However, those Nyon bushes are there for a reason which is to act as a thrust bearing to prevent direct steel-to-plastic contact which is likely to wear the contact point on the travelling arm. Not only that but the collar in the nylon bushes also locates the spring ends radially so that it does not rub on the shaft. I suspect that the plastic on the travelling arm will wear and that the shaft will become scratched making the action less smooth. But time will tell. Perhaps a thin nylon washer to replace both bushes would be a possibility to prevent steel-plastic contact whilst not reducing the improved smoothness allbeit that the potential for shaft scratching / wear would still exist. Thank you for broadcasting this simple mod.
I hear what you're saying, but the collars on the bushes are plastic anyway, and a lot thinner than the central arm, so if there's any plastic to metal wear it would occur with them anyway, (and I doubt if they're available as spares). Also, the shaft is very hard stainless steel and the spings are not (so are softer), so I don't think there will be anyscratches on the shaft from them.
Cheers for the video. I don’t have this yoke but the low end quality of it and having to do mods to improve it reminds me so much of the Saitek/Logitech which I had. Never again will I ever buy the cheap stuff, it’s simply not worth it for the money and you end up paying more in the long run by replacing them with something much better straight off the bat. FFB is in my near future and I can’t wait to not have to deal with rubbish springs, overly strong centre detents that don’t move with trimming the aircraft and stiction.
Sorry to disagree but this yoke is great. And not everyone has unlimited funds to buy the latest and greatest. But the Velocity One has so many features compared to every other yoke and throttle set, that doing miner mods to make it work even better, puts this yoke up with the best. As you said, you don’t have it so you have no idea how good and feature rich this device is!
@@anthonymark3771 First up, anything like this that needs mods to fix issues obviously isn’t great, and the level of mods that would be really needed to make this a GREAT flight sim yoke would be expensive enough you might as well get something else in the first place. Up with the best? That’s hilarious, you should go on stage with jokes like that and having extra cheap switch’s and dials etc which you can get separately doesn’t excuse its main purpose sucking even with mods. No, the problem isn’t that I haven’t tried this one, it’s that YOU haven’t tried anything better, were as I have had experience of cheap crap yokes like this and a load of other cheap plastic controls AND of better options and I’ll never go back to this kind of garbage. I’ve wasted enough money on them and I’ve also done mods to them as well to remove too strong detents, stiction and other issues, which improved them sure, but it’s like putting lipstick on a pig, it still performs like dirt compared to other options and I’ve seen that first hand a number of times now. As per usual with you people you bring up not being able to afford better options as if that changes the quality difference and as if thats part of your attack on my comment, as if I have something against anyone who’s poor, because the reality is you would have to be pretty poor to not be able to afford something better than this. You don’t need unlimited funds or even many funds to manage that, and if you are actually really into flight simulation you will find the money and anyone poor enough that can’t find it probably has more important things to worry about and isn’t into flight sims which let’s face it, isn’t that cheap of a hobby. I don’t even make much money myself, but that’s actually more reason to pay less in the long run than waste any more money on something that doesn’t perform its duties well and I’m unhappy with and so ends up getting replaced eventually which means more money spent, that’s my point. But you carry on lying to yourself it’s better than it is, I’ve seen plenty of people with your delusions before when they won’t or can’t spend the extra so they go defensive on their purchase decisions. But I’ve also seen a rare few that when they do wake up and get something better they realise how wrong they were, pretty recently actually.
@@WhiteHawk77 Just go away...there always people like you trying to put other people down. Why are you here anyway? If you don't have the VelocityOne, we do not need your opinion.
I cut some of my springs because of the stiffness,it’s okay now but i wish i knew about your method before. Do you know where i can buy new springs for the yoke?
Hello, I bought the second velocity one and I have the problem that the X and Y axis function does not show in the calibration. I don't know how to solve it. I tried it on 3 PCs and it doesn't move.
Thanks for sharing this Paul, about to open mine up - was searching for a fix for this, glad I found your video! Was going to order the clamp too but no physical orders are being taken now, just the 3d files. Bummer. Thanks again!
I have determined the stickiness has nothing to do with the detent stops centring and have undone the mod in this video - restored it to original and to day I have dumped the TB Velocity one and have ordered the honeycomb yoke and quadrant....
Right, it's really two different problems. 1) the centering that this video address and then 2) the "stickiness" that the 3D printed mod is addressing.
Thanks for the video but unfortunately for me the mod does diddly-squat! (no reflection on your video or effort for posting) I still get the stickiness. I am going to put back the white nylon/plastic spring locators/stops without the black rubber/foam spaces and see how that goes. Of utmost importance is the smoothness of the control! All Turtle Beach can say it that it frees up with use..... I have been using it now for 150 hours of flying by hand and not autopilot, and it is just as sticky as it was new. So how much use does it take to free up - never perhaps. I do not mind the detent as such it is the stickiness where you are trying to finesse a landing by pulling back against the tension which then suddenly lets go and moves too far and the nose of the aircraft goes way up and buggers up the landing! This relatively expensive yoke is crap. I do hope the Honeycomb brand of yoke goes back into production and once again becomes available because I will be dumping the Velocity one yoke and getting the Honeycomb as soon as I can. I suppose if I had a 3D printer I could design and print brackets to hold small bearings inside for the shaft to roll on - I am aware of the ghastly mod to put bearings on the out side of the box.
Coincidentally, I have now also fitted VanDeik's "Ghastly Mod" of the bracket outside of the box with the rubber tyred roller bearings supporting the yoke shaft underneath as it exits the front plastic collar. I have to say that it now works brilliantly. Now that the "sag", caused by the hands resting on the grips and weighting it down slightly is now fully supported by the roller bearings, so that the shaft moves in and out as smoothly as any other yoke that I posess, (an Alpha XPC, a Macbare, and even my Brunner CLS-E !). The combination of his bracket and my removal of the spring stops has made the pitch axis perfectly smooth, with a gradual transition of forward to backward resistance. The roll axis still has a very distinct centre detent, but that is much easier to live with. I agree completely that the standard factory performance of the VelocityOne yoke is almost unusable in respect of the awful pitch axis binding, making final approach and flaring very unpleasant. Amazing really, considering how much effort they've put into the rest of it. It's a similar story (IMHO) with their VelocityOne Joystick too, I find that excellent, in all but one respect, the ridiculously stiff centre detent. Luckilly though, I found a video here on UA-cam where the Guy explains a very simople mod of opening the base and either cutting the coil spring or replacing it with a weaker one, (which I did), and that too, is now my best all in one "portable" joystick. (I also have a Virpil and a Rhino FF, which are in a different league altogether, but the VelocityOne is much more compact for portable use.
Hi Paul great video of the mod, I shall be trying this as it definitely is to abrupt jerky movement landing at this point on the yoke. Please can you tell me if there is a link available to Vans roller mod. Thanks
How is your mod working now that you have Kevin's mod. I have one ordered but am thinking of trying your mod out. Except for the pitch problems I really love my yoke.
Kevin's mod arrived several weeks ago and I fitted it straight away. It has completed the transition, making the pitch axis wonderfully smooth, even when holding just one side of the yoke. I'd say it's now actually better than my Honecomb Alpha, being much lighter, wnd with no centre detent at all.
Yes Patrick, they were preventing one spring from gradually taking over from the other. When they're removed, the transition at the centre is much more seamless.
You Legend, works a treat to make the detent smooth...
I was at the flight sim expo in Las Vegas last week and there were a number of Velocity One flight yokes set up and I noticed they did not have the strong detent or the stickiness that is present in the older models. I believe they must have made some improvements to the design. I have the 3D printed support rollers on mine and they do work as well. About a year ago I tried to do a mod similar to yours but rather than remove the washers I used string tie to collapse two coils of the spring effectively making it slightly shorter and weaker.
Brilliant! A simple, effective and easy fix to a real problem. Well done that man!
I tried your mod and it works quite well, but I didn’t like that the springs rattles and scraped on the metal shaft. What I did was make my own bumpers with 1cm length of 15mm Pushfit tubing - it’s has the perfect internal diameter for the shaft and, with a small amount of filing, fits nice and snug inside the spring. Best of both worlds 😊
Brilliant, well done. This is an issue with controlling the aircraft during landing so making this mod is a great improvement. Thank you!
That's a great and easy fix indeed, though I agree with @TWOKDOK1 the nylon washers are here for a reason (mostly contact wear and noise). So in my case I put them in the drill and reduced their diameter with a file :) I reduce the diameter from 27mm to ~23mm and they can now travel freely through the middle detent groove. I had to remove the black rubber and foam pads first to easily file the white tefflon part, and then I sticked it again on the tefflon and cut the part that was going outside the tefflon. It works pretty great now :)
This is the way! Just tried this and it worked really well, thanks for the tip
I’m going to try this! Thanks!
BRILLIANT. this works like a charm. thank you so much for sharing
The thing about this is that on a real plane, the yoke will tend to want to center the faster you're flying. It's like a natural detent. The wind over the elevators makes them want to go neutral at high speeds. During landing it's much less of an issue. If you find the tension to high to maintain a certain position of the yoke, you could always use trim like we do in real planes. I use trim constantly. That being said.....I have this on order so you might be right and this could be a great mod...I will see what it feels like but I'll bet even without the mod it's going to be an enormous improvement over my old CH Yoke and Rudder pedals!
Very well put together video and clearly explained. Thank you. That 'detente' at the neutral point is really annoying on landing. This looks like it does the job. However, those Nyon bushes are there for a reason which is to act as a thrust bearing to prevent direct steel-to-plastic contact which is likely to wear the contact point on the travelling arm. Not only that but the collar in the nylon bushes also locates the spring ends radially so that it does not rub on the shaft. I suspect that the plastic on the travelling arm will wear and that the shaft will become scratched making the action less smooth. But time will tell. Perhaps a thin nylon washer to replace both bushes would be a possibility to prevent steel-plastic contact whilst not reducing the improved smoothness allbeit that the potential for shaft scratching / wear would still exist. Thank you for broadcasting this simple mod.
I hear what you're saying, but the collars on the bushes are plastic anyway, and a lot thinner than the central arm, so if there's any plastic to metal wear it would occur with them anyway, (and I doubt if they're available as spares).
Also, the shaft is very hard stainless steel and the spings are not (so are softer), so I don't think there will be anyscratches on the shaft from them.
@@ShorebasePaul Para prevenir esse problema, criei umas anilhas, na impressora 3D em TPU e assim, as molas estão sempre centradas e não fazem barulho.
@@mjrtekscan you share the 3d printer files ?
Genious!! Thanks for the effort.
Cheers for the video. I don’t have this yoke but the low end quality of it and having to do mods to improve it reminds me so much of the Saitek/Logitech which I had. Never again will I ever buy the cheap stuff, it’s simply not worth it for the money and you end up paying more in the long run by replacing them with something much better straight off the bat. FFB is in my near future and I can’t wait to not have to deal with rubbish springs, overly strong centre detents that don’t move with trimming the aircraft and stiction.
Sorry to disagree but this yoke is great. And not everyone has unlimited funds to buy the latest and greatest. But the Velocity One has so many features compared to every other yoke and throttle set, that doing miner mods to make it work even better, puts this yoke up with the best. As you said, you don’t have it so you have no idea how good and feature rich this device is!
@@anthonymark3771 First up, anything like this that needs mods to fix issues obviously isn’t great, and the level of mods that would be really needed to make this a GREAT flight sim yoke would be expensive enough you might as well get something else in the first place.
Up with the best? That’s hilarious, you should go on stage with jokes like that and having extra cheap switch’s and dials etc which you can get separately doesn’t excuse its main purpose sucking even with mods.
No, the problem isn’t that I haven’t tried this one, it’s that YOU haven’t tried anything better, were as I have had experience of cheap crap yokes like this and a load of other cheap plastic controls AND of better options and I’ll never go back to this kind of garbage. I’ve wasted enough money on them and I’ve also done mods to them as well to remove too strong detents, stiction and other issues, which improved them sure, but it’s like putting lipstick on a pig, it still performs like dirt compared to other options and I’ve seen that first hand a number of times now.
As per usual with you people you bring up not being able to afford better options as if that changes the quality difference and as if thats part of your attack on my comment, as if I have something against anyone who’s poor, because the reality is you would have to be pretty poor to not be able to afford something better than this.
You don’t need unlimited funds or even many funds to manage that, and if you are actually really into flight simulation you will find the money and anyone poor enough that can’t find it probably has more important things to worry about and isn’t into flight sims which let’s face it, isn’t that cheap of a hobby.
I don’t even make much money myself, but that’s actually more reason to pay less in the long run than waste any more money on something that doesn’t perform its duties well and I’m unhappy with and so ends up getting replaced eventually which means more money spent, that’s my point.
But you carry on lying to yourself it’s better than it is, I’ve seen plenty of people with your delusions before when they won’t or can’t spend the extra so they go defensive on their purchase decisions. But I’ve also seen a rare few that when they do wake up and get something better they realise how wrong they were, pretty recently actually.
@@WhiteHawk77 Just go away...there always people like you trying to put other people down. Why are you here anyway? If you don't have the VelocityOne, we do not need your opinion.
Just tested and works great! Thanks.
I just got one, a new unit, and have no center detent at all. I wonder if my internals are different.
Great idea for a mod! Have you seen any extra wear and tear since doing this?
I cut some of my springs because of the stiffness,it’s okay now but i wish i knew about your method before. Do you know where i can buy new springs for the yoke?
Thank you!
How to take the top off the yoke. I cannot get the part of the top near the yoke
Did you figured it out?
Hello, I bought the second velocity one and I have the problem that the X and Y axis function does not show in the calibration. I don't know how to solve it. I tried it on 3 PCs and it doesn't move.
Open the velocity one there is magnet simply put it in place it will fix the problem
Thanks for sharing this Paul, about to open mine up - was searching for a fix for this, glad I found your video! Was going to order the clamp too but no physical orders are being taken now, just the 3d files. Bummer. Thanks again!
For what I understood the physical version will be available again in a couple of weeks
I have determined the stickiness has nothing to do with the detent stops centring and have undone the mod in this video - restored it to original and to day I have dumped the TB Velocity one and have ordered the honeycomb yoke and quadrant....
ua-cam.com/video/4hW4pp7fRxM/v-deo.htmlsi=IP4GO0eMe7FNN9ua
I just got one of these and it transformed the yoke. Worth every penny
Right, it's really two different problems. 1) the centering that this video address and then 2) the "stickiness" that the 3D printed mod is addressing.
Thanks for the video but unfortunately for me the mod does diddly-squat! (no reflection on your video or effort for posting) I still get the stickiness. I am going to put back the white nylon/plastic spring locators/stops without the black rubber/foam spaces and see how that goes. Of utmost importance is the smoothness of the control! All Turtle Beach can say it that it frees up with use..... I have been using it now for 150 hours of flying by hand and not autopilot, and it is just as sticky as it was new. So how much use does it take to free up - never perhaps.
I do not mind the detent as such it is the stickiness where you are trying to finesse a landing by pulling back against the tension which then suddenly lets go and moves too far and the nose of the aircraft goes way up and buggers up the landing!
This relatively expensive yoke is crap. I do hope the Honeycomb brand of yoke goes back into production and once again becomes available because I will be dumping the Velocity one yoke and getting the Honeycomb as soon as I can.
I suppose if I had a 3D printer I could design and print brackets to hold small bearings inside for the shaft to roll on - I am aware of the ghastly mod to put bearings on the out side of the box.
Coincidentally, I have now also fitted VanDeik's "Ghastly Mod" of the bracket outside of the box with the rubber tyred roller bearings supporting the yoke shaft underneath as it exits the front plastic collar.
I have to say that it now works brilliantly. Now that the "sag", caused by the hands resting on the grips and weighting it down slightly is now fully supported by the roller bearings, so that the shaft moves in and out as smoothly as any other yoke that I posess, (an Alpha XPC, a Macbare, and even my Brunner CLS-E !).
The combination of his bracket and my removal of the spring stops has made the pitch axis perfectly smooth, with a gradual transition of forward to backward resistance.
The roll axis still has a very distinct centre detent, but that is much easier to live with.
I agree completely that the standard factory performance of the VelocityOne yoke is almost unusable in respect of the awful pitch axis binding, making final approach and flaring very unpleasant. Amazing really, considering how much effort they've put into the rest of it.
It's a similar story (IMHO) with their VelocityOne Joystick too, I find that excellent, in all but one respect, the ridiculously stiff centre detent. Luckilly though, I found a video here on UA-cam where the Guy explains a very simople mod of opening the base and either cutting the coil spring or replacing it with a weaker one, (which I did), and that too, is now my best all in one "portable" joystick. (I also have a Virpil and a Rhino FF, which are in a different league altogether, but the VelocityOne is much more compact for portable use.
Hi Paul great video of the mod, I shall be trying this as it definitely is to abrupt jerky movement landing at this point on the yoke.
Please can you tell me if there is a link available to Vans roller mod. Thanks
Yes Gary, it's at
www.etsy.com/uk/shop/vanDIJKstuff?ref=l2-about-shopname
@@ShorebasePaul thanks Paul
@@ShorebasePaulyo can you make this mod and sell it I was trying to buy it but it’s sold out
How is your mod working now that you have Kevin's mod. I have one ordered but am thinking of trying your mod out. Except for the pitch problems I really love my yoke.
Kevin's mod arrived several weeks ago and I fitted it straight away. It has completed the transition, making the pitch axis wonderfully smooth, even when holding just one side of the yoke. I'd say it's now actually better than my Honecomb Alpha, being much lighter, wnd with no centre detent at all.
@@ShorebasePaul So you did leave the spring pads out after you added Kevin's mod? Thanks for the info.
Yes Patrick, they were preventing one spring from gradually taking over from the other. When they're removed, the transition at the centre is much more seamless.
@@ShorebasePaul Thank you.
Where do I find this mod?