Honestly i cant thank you enough for this video. Ive just bought Trivium Drums and fucked if i could get it to route multi track. All i hard was the master channel or stereo one. I was literally just about to go out and put a pickaxe through the windscreen of my car in frustration! I now have it working perfectky. What a stupid shitty set up though, definitely not easy out the box! Thanks again!!
You mentioned when routing the individual tracks to DAW that it bypasses the Master Channel. Do the individual channels still go through the mixing stages in the plugin i.e. the EQ, Transient Designer, Saturation, etc.?
Hello Jeremy/Bogren, I work in Logic Pro X and I am curious to know that once I set up this routing, is it possible for me to bounce out each individual track as audio files? I think so, but am curious how to do this with my particular DAW. My computer doesn't have the best CPU power/performance, so anytime I can bounce things out to stop using plugins such as Krimh Drums (or amp sims, etc.), it helps my computer not slow down during mixing.
Hi @npckle thanks for your question. Yes, it's possible. Once you've routed the tracks, you can set them up for recording to have the audio file in real-time, like a real drummer recording a take. After you record the entire song, just turn off Kontakt and work with your separate audio tracks 🥁 Happy mixing!
Okay, so you said the channels are no longer being ran through the master channel and then just end the video without telling us how to remedy that if desired. How do you do that?
In the master channel, you have Reverbs, Parallel compression, Master EQ, and Master tape. It would be cool to reproduce this with the plugins you have in your DAW to achieve a similar result.
I really wish there was a template to route this for pro tools. I honestly cannot figure out how to properly route it without something getting screwed up. :( Regretting the purchase unfortunately.
Please send us an email mail to support@bogrendigital.com and we will help you get going. There also are very good tutorials on YT that are Pro Tools specific, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/AZipuvdevQc/v-deo.html We hope this helps.
But recording (edrums) with this routing is not good because it causes more latency (the whole routing..), correct ? But afterwards, best method to mix it, correct ?
I don't notice that much latency at all when using multi-out vs stereo out. Maybe there is but I don't notice it. But yes you can always record your MIDI using stereo out, then setup your Krimh and project to multi-out and you're good to go!
Bro, the routing is broken. When following the steps it doubles up channels, throws the drum room in kt.1, and the routing doesn't translate to the corresponding channels when routing.
Feel free to shoot us at support@bogrendigital.com When you reach out, please let us know which step you got stuck on, along with information about your DAW, operating system, and a screenshot of your setup if possible. Our team will gladly help you out. Thank you
@@DissonanceApproved The detailed instructions can be found on our blog: bogrendigital.com/blogs/news/krimh-drums-routing Please note that the steps may vary slightly depending on the DAW you are using. If you encounter any challenges or have questions, feel free to reach out to us at support@bogrendigital.com. We are here to assist you with any specific cases or concerns you may have. Thank you
@@kokkkztse I ended up setting up all the routing manually. I think it's screwed up because Kontact routes 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, and then Reaper routes 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, etc so there's an odd discrepancy.
Uhm... when I follow that tutorial it creates two tracks per kit-part. both being mono as fuck. It completely overrides the panning settings in the kit. Why is it doubling the channels? It does it in your video, too. Is there a way where i could for example route all toms to one output without the panning being srewed up?
Also the track names do not at all match the output names in kontakt - with the room channel ending somewhere at an output called st.18 aux... why does it put it on an aux channel?
Wow that sounds like some weird shit. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to possibly even program drums recorded to a midi track. I'm dead on arrival. No idea how to record any patterns at all.
On top of the Kontakt Window, there are two icons: a camera, and "i" in the circle. Make sure you are in "camera" mode (snapshot). Then, press the floppy disk icon, clicking on it will allow you to name your snapshot. After saving it you can access the saved preset by clicking on the 'user' dropdown.
thanks a lot, Jeremy!! clean tutorial for sure!
Hi Jeremy, thank you ! very clear and effective 🤘
Honestly i cant thank you enough for this video. Ive just bought Trivium Drums and fucked if i could get it to route multi track. All i hard was the master channel or stereo one. I was literally just about to go out and put a pickaxe through the windscreen of my car in frustration! I now have it working perfectky. What a stupid shitty set up though, definitely not easy out the box! Thanks again!!
Is it possible just to route out snare and kick for example and the rest stays routed do master direct in krimh drums?
Yes, you need to keep the stereo st channel, add only 2 tracks, and route the kick and snare 🥁
@@Bogren.Digital thank you! AWESOME......
You mentioned when routing the individual tracks to DAW that it bypasses the Master Channel. Do the individual channels still go through the mixing stages in the plugin i.e. the EQ, Transient Designer, Saturation, etc.?
Thanks for your question. Yes, if you apply this to the individual track, this will be processed and sent to the track in your DAW.
Hi. This looks great, but I don't have output section, it just looks different than yours? Thoughts? Advices? Thank you.
The full version includes a mixer and outputs. Please email support@bogrendigital.com and we will help you get started!
in Kontakt: File - Outputs
Hello Jeremy/Bogren, I work in Logic Pro X and I am curious to know that once I set up this routing, is it possible for me to bounce out each individual track as audio files? I think so, but am curious how to do this with my particular DAW. My computer doesn't have the best CPU power/performance, so anytime I can bounce things out to stop using plugins such as Krimh Drums (or amp sims, etc.), it helps my computer not slow down during mixing.
Hi @npckle thanks for your question. Yes, it's possible. Once you've routed the tracks, you can set them up for recording to have the audio file in real-time, like a real drummer recording a take.
After you record the entire song, just turn off Kontakt and work with your separate audio tracks 🥁 Happy mixing!
Is there a version of this for cubase?
Yes! It's on our blog here: bogrendigital.com/blogs/news/krimh-drums-routing#cubase
Theres no workspace button in my kontakt 7 in cubase 14. The layout is different. Am i missing something?
Is that now accessed in the inspector side bar? Im lost lol
@ please send us an email to support@bogrendigital.com and we will help you get going!
Any chance to help with routing in cubase pro 12
Hi, Marek.
We hope these steps help you: bogrendigital.com/blogs/news/krimh-drums-routing#cubase
Okay, so you said the channels are no longer being ran through the master channel and then just end the video without telling us how to remedy that if desired. How do you do that?
In the master channel, you have
Reverbs, Parallel compression, Master EQ, and Master tape. It would be cool to reproduce this with the plugins you have in your DAW to achieve a similar result.
So can you use Krimh drums as a standalone or do you need Kontact?
cheers!
Hi, Steve. Krimh Drums needs Kontakt to work. Luckily, Kontakt comes with a standalone version, so you don't need to start a DAW to use it.
I really wish there was a template to route this for pro tools. I honestly cannot figure out how to properly route it without something getting screwed up. :( Regretting the purchase unfortunately.
Please send us an email mail to support@bogrendigital.com and we will help you get going.
There also are very good tutorials on YT that are Pro Tools specific, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/AZipuvdevQc/v-deo.html
We hope this helps.
But recording (edrums) with this routing is not good because it causes more latency (the whole routing..), correct ?
But afterwards, best method to mix it, correct ?
I don't notice that much latency at all when using multi-out vs stereo out. Maybe there is but I don't notice it. But yes you can always record your MIDI using stereo out, then setup your Krimh and project to multi-out and you're good to go!
@@eDrumsandVSTs nice. Thank you. I subbed you (;
@@FedRickaT thanks so much, ive got some cool stuff coming. I love Krimh drums tho!
Bro, the routing is broken. When following the steps it doubles up channels, throws the drum room in kt.1, and the routing doesn't translate to the corresponding channels when routing.
Feel free to shoot us at support@bogrendigital.com
When you reach out, please let us know which step you got stuck on, along with information about your DAW, operating system, and a screenshot of your setup if possible.
Our team will gladly help you out. Thank you
Please anser this question officially and for everybody to find that have similar or the exact same issue. Thanks!@@Bogren.Digital
@@DissonanceApproved The detailed instructions can be found on our blog:
bogrendigital.com/blogs/news/krimh-drums-routing
Please note that the steps may vary slightly depending on the DAW you are using.
If you encounter any challenges or have questions, feel free to reach out to us at support@bogrendigital.com.
We are here to assist you with any specific cases or concerns you may have.
Thank you
Hey did you figured out? I'm turning crazy I can't make it works in stereo...
@@kokkkztse I ended up setting up all the routing manually. I think it's screwed up because Kontact routes 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, and then Reaper routes 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, etc so there's an odd discrepancy.
Seems I'm missing a step to get individual tracks to show up in Logic. The last part of the video just explains the final routing in Reaper
You can check the steps for Logic here:
bogrendigital.com/blogs/news/krimh-drums-routing#logic
Uhm... when I follow that tutorial it creates two tracks per kit-part. both being mono as fuck. It completely overrides the panning settings in the kit. Why is it doubling the channels? It does it in your video, too. Is there a way where i could for example route all toms to one output without the panning being srewed up?
Also the track names do not at all match the output names in kontakt - with the room channel ending somewhere at an output called st.18 aux... why does it put it on an aux channel?
Wow that sounds like some weird shit. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to possibly even program drums recorded to a midi track. I'm dead on arrival. No idea how to record any patterns at all.
Me sucede lo mismo, las pistas no conservan el orden ni siquiera en el ruteo interno de kontakt.
@DissonanceApproved lo solucionaste de alguna forma?
Hey did you figured out? I'm turning crazy I can't make it works in stereo...
This might seem like a dumb question, but how the HELL do you save your own preset in Krimh?!?
On top of the Kontakt Window, there are two icons: a camera, and "i" in the circle. Make sure you are in "camera" mode (snapshot). Then, press the floppy disk icon, clicking on it will allow you to name your snapshot. After saving it you can access the saved preset by clicking on the 'user' dropdown.
random minute at the end of the video with random screen recording?
Put more grooves people. The best drum vst hands down
Thanks for the feedback 🥁
Great reaper guide