@@stradley_ leak of an early build of version 0.1 of an alpha prototype of the demo of the prologue meant for Subaru dealerships with a Logitech racing wheel meant for news outlets in Japan for online multiplayer testing purposes on an early PS2 hardware with a certain firmware that used early HDTV displays, released only to PAL regions who are winners of a contest of subscribers to a Playstation magazine, who were the first 200 that pre-ordered GT HD Concept 2000, that attended the Detroit auto show, and test drove a Subaru Vision GT
@@stradley_ leak of an alpha build of version 0.1 of a demo or a prologue of a concept of a Subaru exclusive for the PAL region to a contest winner of magazine subscribers, with an early build of Tsukuba
A really good video and a great summary of the special versions of Gran Turismo! The information is all accurate. You did a really good job there, especially the summary of the lost builds! One could also mention the Replay Theater builds of Gran Turismo 3, which are not strictly speaking demos. (But are not games either) These would be: Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater Autobacs Seven | PAPX-90207 Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater | PAPX-90208 Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater Netz Toyota | PAPX-90209 And thank you for mentioning me! I feel honored :D
Two minutes in and I’m calling Tourist Trophy top tier. And I’m giving Enthusia honorable mention because fuck Konami and that game needs more recognition.
Enthusia is severely underappreciated. It truly is a hidden gem. Just imagining the ground-breaking game it could have been had Konami given the devs enough time to make everything they wanted makes me incredibly mad.
I'm a Gran Turismo collector and huge fanatic also. For someone to finally compile a list in video form does help as there are titles here that weren't known to even myself. Thank you for the video!
I think PSP GT should be counted as the Main GT Game, because even tho it's mostly a GT3/GT4 asset reuse, it's still for PSP the only GT game, and it's exclusive to PSP
I don’t think that is enough to make it count. Like, Metal Gear Ghost Babel is the only Metal Gear game on the GBC but because it’s so different content and story to the mainline Metal Gear games, it’s not considered a main game. GT PSP wasn’t ever treated as a main series GT game. GT5 prologue got more support and development than it.
@@blucanyon I agree. But that's why I mentioned Ghost Babel rather than Peace Walker. Because while Ghost Babel has gameplay that resembles the MSX Metal Gears, since its story is set in essentially a different universe and little if anything from it comes up in later games, so it wouldn't be considered a main game.
The BMW 1 series demos were given out to people who pre ordered a 1 series when it came out, but most people got them from walking into dealerships and asking for them.
30:47 My father used to work in a BMW dealership back then and, at least in his dealership's case, this demo was meant to be used in the dealership itself, not be given out. I even got the chance to play with it a few times I went there while my dad was working😁
The most interesting part of this story is the fact that there are more dealership-specific versions than I expected, which perhaps solidifies Gran Turismo as a car marketing tool, a trend shared years back when Netz, a Toyota dealership network, had its own game using the Advan Racing engine on PSX, said to be given out for free when visiting them.
Japanese car dealerships sound like some of the most amazing places there can be. Full of amazing unobtanium cars that you could seemingly just walk in and buy at some time in the past, and one-off technology showcases that would still be amazing today. All we get over here is salesmen that can't amswer shit but still won't leave you alone.
The Subaru Driving Simulator Version was also present at the 2003 IAA Auto Show in Frankfurt/Germany. I actually drove it and it was my first time using a wheel back then.
love your content dude! could you make a video on the ps3 era of gran turismo (gt5/gt6) and maybe to into depth on why the games weren't as successful as the games before them? i'd also like to hear your take on them! thanks, and keep it up!
Basically it went like this: Polyphony Digital: "Ok I'mma develop the best racing games ever for the PS3." *2 seconds later* Polyphony Digital: "Damn, PS3 got hands." Kaz described the PS3 as a "nightmare" to develop games for (as a slim model PS3 owner that definitely hurt to hear). The PS3 being such a difficult console to develop games for was the main reason why those games turned out the way they did. This was also the time when the online multiplayer aspects of the series were finally introduced and the online multiplayer mode definitely changed Polyphony Digital for better and for worse with each new Gran Turismo game.
I think the motor triathalon version of grand canyon has a tarmac section because you can see the suspension actively raise when you hit the dirt section and they probably wanted to show that off
You’ve put it in my head that Wii Fit music can work with Gran Turismo. Japanese games have so much music that can just be thrown over another and it just, works totally fine.
GTA London needs the original game to apply. F Zero X and others on the 64DD are more content expansions. Sega Channel and Satelliview aka before Dreamcast online or Xbox Live/PS2 online but it's radio not dial up or broadband. So Sega Channel was more available I think maybe in the US for Genesis or there was some Saturn thing, it is in catalogues, no idea EU. But Satelliview was in Japan only with F Zero, Mario, Zelda stone tablets, Kirby and other games. Check Scott the Woz he has the catalogues look in a Black friday episode and the Garfield Caught in the Act levels mentioned in the games that time forgot episode. They had updates versions of games. Even Garfield Caught in the Act on Sega Channel I think had additional levels and may be lost but PC or another platform may have them or reordered or something. Expansions for PC sure but PS1 I can't think of many but some probably exist out there. Also 360 I have a Borderlands 1 DLC disk. You could count the Elder Scrolls Online disk's as expansions continued for each new major version of the game like WoW did back in the day and still does just maybe not physical anymore and just digital but Elder Scrolls Online does it physical or the first few entries I guess. But yes the constant content updates per motor show for GT series is impressive. And a definitive edition. And as I guess a besides the one make ones an epilogue to GT3 before the GT4 transition ones/GT4 Prologue. Even the Sims series on console were separated curated versions before Sims 4 made it DLC. But expansions from 1-3 in the series on PC besides certain standalone games of the stories/mediaeval not counting castaway, the handheld GBA/DS/PSP versions being spin offs and story based and don't always reflect PC/console. Sims 2 Pets PSP is more like console but Sims 2 PSP is story driven and totally different like the GBA/DS games. Or certain DS ones all GBA ones were story driven.
Watching this I really got vibes of one of those "iceberg" videos. The 8 main console games are the tip of the iceberg, then we went deeper and deeper underwater. Very interesting though, really enjoyed it.
I remember when I was in Munich in 2015, I went to BMW Welt and there also was a version of Gran Turismo showing off the M models. It was in a simulator seat with wheel and pedal and you were locked to BMW models, M models specifically and since I haven't played a GT game since 4 and never been on a wheel and pedal, it was such an overwhelming experience. The tracks to choose from were also locked and I think one of them was the Nordschleife. Now, I can't say whether it was a specific edition of GT or just regular GT6 but with locked content but IIRC you could only do singleplayer races. Outside of that experience, fasnicating video to a question I thought I wouldn't be interested in!
Great video! It's nice to learn more about all the lesser-known GT titles to exist. However, there are a couple of games that you missed out, along with their significance to the series. I even played one of them when I was a little girl in 2003, but I unfortunately lost the CD because someone stole it alongside my whole bag during a long trip to a distant continent. Gran Turismo 2 has several demo builds, mostly released in 1999 but there's one that's released in 2000. I don't remember which version of GT2 demo that I had, but I remember that it featured only one single track playable which is Rome Full Circuit as well as three playable cars: Ford Mustang GT '99, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR '98 (hence why I have a hunch that Lan Evo V's inclusion in GT2000 wasn't a random choice by the devs, in addition to the Dandelion Yellow being one of the color options for it as well), and Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo. From what I read on the internet, there were at least four demo versions of GT2, and the last version of demo which was exclusive to Japan had over 1000 cars on their folder list. Now, the demo that I played was a single-disc demo that featured both the Arcade Mode and Simulation Mode (called GRAN TURISMO in the demo), but only the Arcade mode was playable. I could navigate the Simulation Mode, but everything apart from the City sections were inaccessible with the label [CLOSED] on each icon. And even then, not every dealership was accessible as well. The only accessible ones that I remember were FIAT, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Suzuki, and TVR. And even in the dealership menu, some sub-menus were inaccessible as well. If I remember correctly, I wasn't able to access the Used Car, Special Model, and Race Event sub-menu, and several dealers with in-house tuning brand (MAZDASPEED and RALLIART) used their respective names instead of the usual Tune Up sub-menu name. What piqued my interest were the SFX and interface design of the dealerships: Not only did the demo use different SFXs to the final build, but the dealerships also used different layout designs, from their main menu to the car selections. Unlike the final build which used in-game car models for each car icon in the New Car section, the demo actually used real-life pictures of the car in full color, no less. This is the thing that still sticks with me to this very day. As for the Arcade Mode itself, I already mentioned that it only featured one track and three playable cars. However, in addition to featuring difficulty levels and Class A, B, and C categories just like the final build, it also featured models of other cars as well. Unfortunately, the game locked me from playing the rest of the cars and they had the label [NOT AVAILABLE] on them. Now, for the race itself, the GT2 demo didn't have a timer, but I was only able to race for one lap and it was such a memorable lap. The physics were almost the same as the final build, and I can attest to that because I was also playing the final build of GT2 during the time I played GT2 demo. Also, I forgot to mention that the whole demo was radio silent with no BGM in every menu possible, including the Simulation Mode, but there existed a single BGM during the race, and it was the GT2 version of Moon Over The Castle. That was the very first time I heard the main theme of Gran Turismo and I wasn't even aware of it due to growing up with the Western releases of PS1 GT games. But when I raced and listened to the soundtrack, I thought it was a very emotional soundtrack that brought me to tears, and I replayed the demo on my relative's PS1 several times just to listen to Moon Over The Castle. And that was my experience with the GT2 demo. I got the CD when my uncle who lived in another city was about to travel abroad and he gave me that CD as a gift because he knew I loved PS1 so much. However, I only had it for a short time because during my travel with my family, I lost my bag which contained said CD because someone stole it. Thank you so much for releasing this video as it helps me relieve those memories. And more importantly, please forgive me for not being able to preserve the media...
1000 cars in a car list at that time? That is impressive! Do you know if those cars were different versions of the cars already present in the game or if they were unic models like the Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR?
The 1000 cars is a subject that a number of people like RandomCarGuy17, SuperFrizzio, and MattJ155 have already discussed on UA-cam. I don't think I can share a link on the comment section, but you should check out their channels. Long story shorts, those lists include a combination of unique models (Renault Sport Spider, Pagani Zonda C12, and BMW V12 LMR, for example) and different versions of existing cars in the final build (Jaguar XJR15 racing modification, a couple of RUF variants & JGTC racing modifications, and VW Golf TDI, among others) that didn't make it into the final version. Unfortunately, Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR was one of the earliest cars that Polyphony removed before even the first GT2 demo came out, thus it's not a part of the 1000 car list.
@@lenatama I know the channels of RandomCarGuy17 and MattJ155, I will check their videos to know more about the car list... And thanks for the informations on the 1000 cars from that demo 👍
So good video again! In only 3months you became one of my favourite youtuber because of your amazing videos which are very relevant. You’re the only one who makes me learning so much things about my favourite game. I’m very impressed by the researches you done. (Sry for bad english I’m French ;) )
26:33 I was 5 years old and I saw this arcade machine in the Romanian showroom that was in the Tiriac Auto location in Bucharest, which at that time was a car showroom
Polyphony not reusing GT5 and GT6 detailed cars in Sport and GT7 is beyond moronic. They should do it and stop wasting time with overly long development per car that they preoccupy themselves with now.
23:25 As of 5th July 2024, the Lupo and the Subaru demos have been dumped online. In its game config files, there is a file named "concept-alfa.gcf" proving of this build's existance. In the same demo, you could also find config files for most likely Chrysler Crossfire, Audi (RS4/RS6?), Honda Accord(most likely the Euro-R) and Mercedes SL500 demos. At some point, all of these builds existed or planned to exist
I still have my PlayStation magazine demo discs with Gran Turismo in it, in both playable and watchable only. Good to see you again Rofl! Someone needs to create GT ASMR channel using only exhaust and engine sounds lol. See you in the next one. -Medic
My favourite Gran Turismo game is the GT4 Nike Limited Edition. It came with a pair of Nike shoes, a Nike shirt, guidebook and a big aluminium case. If you're one of the 1000 people who owned the game, you could hook up an Eyetoy camera to your PS2 whilst wearing the special Nike shirt to collect what I'd assume is just a free Nike 2022 car. I've seen it appear on Ebay a few times but I can't justify ever buying it.
With so many demo and special version revealed, it makes me really wish there are some America's brand special for a upcoming GT project, and with that that gives me an idea for Eden do more special version to cover for his stream on contents as many of us has never heard or never known it has been existed.
I held 18 or 19 (i forget) out of 20 of the world records on GT HD Concept Time Trials at one point - every car in both directions, almost. Barely anyone knows that existed now 😅
Don’t you absolutely hate it when your watching a video essay with your phone in your pocket, and you accidentally dislike it with your leg and you never noticed until 4 months later😭😭😭
I fell like the two Gran Turismo 3 Tentou Shiyuu Versions / Demos are another glimpse into what Gran Turismo 2000 might have been. To me the physics and car handling is still closer to the available GT 2000 Demo, but they already have the GT 3 A-Spec name while featuring entirely different menus.
So to give an overview, those are basically all the Gran Turismo games: 1997 | Gran Turismo 1999 | Gran Turismo 2 2000 | Gran Turismo 2000 2001 | Gran Turismo 3 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Seoul 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Geneva 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan GT-R Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Honda Dualnote Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Toyota Pod Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Suzuki GSX-R/4 Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Copen Special Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Airtrek Turbo Special Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan 350Z Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan Micra Edition 2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Alfa Romeo 147 GTA Special Edition 2003 | Gran Turismo 4: Prologue 2003 | Gran Turismo Lupo GTI Cup Japan 2003 | Gran Turismo Lupo GTI Cup Japan 2 2003 | Gran Turismo Subaru Version 2004 | Gran Turismo BMW 1 Series Virtual Drive 2004 | Gran Turismo 4 2004 | Gran Turismo Prius Trial Version 2004 | Gran Turismo Toyota New York Version 2004 | Gran Turismo Toyota Geneva Version 2004 | Gran Turismo Mazda MX-5 Edition 2006 | Gran Turismo Online Test Version 2006 | Gran Turismo Online Public Beta 2006 | Gran Turismo HD 2006 | Tourist Trophy 2007 | Gran Turismo 5: Prologue 2008 | Gran Turismo Special Event Version GT by Citroen 2009 | Gran Turismo Portable 2009 | Gran Turismo Time Trial Challenge 2010 | Gran Turismo 5 2012 | Gran Turismo Academy 2012 2013 | Gran Turismo Academy 2013 2013 | Gran Turismo 6 2017 | Gran Turismo Sport 2022 | Gran Turismo 7
Someone correct me if i’m wrong, but from what i remember, there’s a version of Gran Turismo 4 playable at the Beuliue Motor Museum in the UK. I think it features the Ford Model T and Austin Healy Sprite and one other car that i’ve forgotten.
The old GT HD, well, both Classic and Premium, i'm still hoping that someday they'll be found. So much interesting stuff and cut content, like the premium 22B Rally Car
30:20 played that one when I was 12 in the supermarket while my parents were shopping. It was the reason I pleaded to my father to buy me the GT4 when the price went down to 25 bucks about a year later. 😂😂😂 still remember the other kids wanting to try it and me being the ass I am refusing to let anyone else till I was dragged by my dad.
Most interesting, as always. On an unrelated note, 'ts' in Japanese is a single sound, pronounced the same way as 'z' in Italian and German (like in 'Competizione', 'Benz', or, well, 'pizza'). I did my best to ignore it up till now, but it seems it's impossible to talk about Gran Turismo without mentioning Tsukuba.
I never played a gran turismo prologue in my life, I consider gt sport one of them, so i never played it, the last gt I played was gt6 in 2013… that’s all, finally in 2023 I played gt7 on ps5, 10 years later
i remember i actually played the prius thing but i cant remember what happend to the disc.. i just remember as a kid i played it, thought it was wierd and was running out of battery and it was frustrating
There's one gran turismo game you forgot and is probably the rarest of them all. Around the timeline of GT PSP and GT5, there was a web game version of gran turismo
Polyphony:
Here's a demo of a demo of a demo of a Prologue
No it’s a concept of a demo of a concept of a prologue of a vision car of a demo of a Gran Turismo game
@@stradley_ leak of an early build of version 0.1 of an alpha prototype of the demo of the prologue meant for Subaru dealerships with a Logitech racing wheel meant for news outlets in Japan for online multiplayer testing purposes on an early PS2 hardware with a certain firmware that used early HDTV displays, released only to PAL regions who are winners of a contest of subscribers to a Playstation magazine, who were the first 200 that pre-ordered GT HD Concept 2000, that attended the Detroit auto show, and test drove a Subaru Vision GT
@@stradley_ leak of an alpha build of version 0.1 of a demo or a prologue of a concept of a Subaru exclusive for the PAL region to a contest winner of magazine subscribers, with an early build of Tsukuba
@@dcvanta hello it’s me the person who replied to this for no reason
>somehow own extremely rare motion rig
>put in front yard
>record video
>upload it
>refuse to elaborate
Must have been inspired by the "Halo 4 """Barn""" leak."/j
i am one of those gran turismo 2 pizza hut demo people
mmmm, pizzer
What is pizza hut? It's like domino?
@@spinosauro666 yeah
@@Smolflakemmmmmmmmm
Officialy the second best glorified pizza hut add only behind code geass
bro really went "gt2000 the game vs gt2000 the idea" at the end
Polyphony did it. Finally a game about the mazda miata, it only needs more miata versions
I want a game with only Miata models, just to complain there are too many Miata models in.
I Miata'd all over my screen when I saw that.
Miata is always the answer
@@KikuraKun Always has been
Miata Turismo: The Real Miata Simulator
16:20 "But I assure you we are far from finished" thats exactly why i am a patreon haha his research is next level
A really good video and a great summary of the special versions of Gran Turismo! The information is all accurate. You did a really good job there, especially the summary of the lost builds! One could also mention the Replay Theater builds of Gran Turismo 3, which are not strictly speaking demos. (But are not games either)
These would be:
Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater Autobacs Seven | PAPX-90207
Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater | PAPX-90208
Gran Turismo 3 Replay Theater Netz Toyota | PAPX-90209
And thank you for mentioning me! I feel honored :D
Who remembers the Gran Turismo Online Quiz where if you win you get a SLR McLaren for GT PSP?
YES! That was the coolest thing as a child. An official Gran Turismo flash game, and it even had a driving portion which was my favorite.
Wow, I'm not sure I've ever seen a photo of the Subaru Prologue disc before!
Two minutes in and I’m calling Tourist Trophy top tier. And I’m giving Enthusia honorable mention because fuck Konami and that game needs more recognition.
the song that plays in the Enthusia Life menu goes so unbelievably hard
Enthusia is severely underappreciated. It truly is a hidden gem.
Just imagining the ground-breaking game it could have been had Konami given the devs enough time to make everything they wanted makes me incredibly mad.
Auto modealista was great aswell!
wake up babe, new roflwaffle vid just dropped 👍🏻
She left.
I'm a Gran Turismo collector and huge fanatic also.
For someone to finally compile a list in video form does help as there are titles here that weren't known to even myself.
Thank you for the video!
I think PSP GT should be counted as the Main GT Game, because even tho it's mostly a GT3/GT4 asset reuse, it's still for PSP the only GT game, and it's exclusive to PSP
I don’t think that is enough to make it count.
Like, Metal Gear Ghost Babel is the only Metal Gear game on the GBC but because it’s so different content and story to the mainline Metal Gear games, it’s not considered a main game.
GT PSP wasn’t ever treated as a main series GT game. GT5 prologue got more support and development than it.
@@FraserSourisMetal gear isn’t exactly a good example, because Peace Walker (on psp) is considered mainline.
@@blucanyon I agree. But that's why I mentioned Ghost Babel rather than Peace Walker.
Because while Ghost Babel has gameplay that resembles the MSX Metal Gears, since its story is set in essentially a different universe and little if anything from it comes up in later games, so it wouldn't be considered a main game.
The BMW 1 series demos were given out to people who pre ordered a 1 series when it came out, but most people got them from walking into dealerships and asking for them.
YOU FORGOT MOTOR TOON GRAND PRIX!!!!!!11!!!!
Motor toon Grand Prix 11?
30:47 My father used to work in a BMW dealership back then and, at least in his dealership's case, this demo was meant to be used in the dealership itself, not be given out. I even got the chance to play with it a few times I went there while my dad was working😁
I was going to guess there was, like, 10 games in the franchise. I'm glad I was proven wrong 10 minutes in.
The most interesting part of this story is the fact that there are more dealership-specific versions than I expected, which perhaps solidifies Gran Turismo as a car marketing tool, a trend shared years back when Netz, a Toyota dealership network, had its own game using the Advan Racing engine on PSX, said to be given out for free when visiting them.
Japanese car dealerships sound like some of the most amazing places there can be. Full of amazing unobtanium cars that you could seemingly just walk in and buy at some time in the past, and one-off technology showcases that would still be amazing today.
All we get over here is salesmen that can't amswer shit but still won't leave you alone.
The Subaru Driving Simulator Version was also present at the 2003 IAA Auto Show in Frankfurt/Germany.
I actually drove it and it was my first time using a wheel back then.
I like how Forza Motorsport was able to start and become a trilogy between GT4 and 5.
Tourist Trophy is my favorite motorcycle racing game. Its riding physics is way better than the Milestone RIDE series.
Best drinking game: every time he says GT or Gran Turismo, take a sip. You’ll be dead after 15 minutes.
love your content dude! could you make a video on the ps3 era of gran turismo (gt5/gt6) and maybe to into depth on why the games weren't as successful as the games before them? i'd also like to hear your take on them! thanks, and keep it up!
Basically it went like this:
Polyphony Digital: "Ok I'mma develop the best racing games ever for the PS3."
*2 seconds later*
Polyphony Digital: "Damn, PS3 got hands."
Kaz described the PS3 as a "nightmare" to develop games for (as a slim model PS3 owner that definitely hurt to hear). The PS3 being such a difficult console to develop games for was the main reason why those games turned out the way they did. This was also the time when the online multiplayer aspects of the series were finally introduced and the online multiplayer mode definitely changed Polyphony Digital for better and for worse with each new Gran Turismo game.
did he not already do this? or am i just dreaming
@@Mikauo_Xblade he did something like it with the standard cars video.
I can't believe they made a Prius-only version! I still drive that Prius in real life and it's the slowest, heaviest car I've ever had!
I think the motor triathalon version of grand canyon has a tarmac section because you can see the suspension actively raise when you hit the dirt section and they probably wanted to show that off
You’ve put it in my head that Wii Fit music can work with Gran Turismo.
Japanese games have so much music that can just be thrown over another and it just, works totally fine.
The F1 2010 paddock music 🥰
and then the wii fit music lmao
18:19 This right here is where the Gran Turismo series peaked. Nothing else came close.
Edit: except maybe 20:33
what about 39:48
@@possibly_ben That's a good point.
Gran Turismo Concept was essentially a DLC/Expansion before they even existed
But DLC existed way before GT Concept. the OG Sonic Adventure on the Sega Dreamcast had some DLC
GTA London needs the original game to apply. F Zero X and others on the 64DD are more content expansions.
Sega Channel and Satelliview aka before Dreamcast online or Xbox Live/PS2 online but it's radio not dial up or broadband.
So Sega Channel was more available I think maybe in the US for Genesis or there was some Saturn thing, it is in catalogues, no idea EU. But Satelliview was in Japan only with F Zero, Mario, Zelda stone tablets, Kirby and other games.
Check Scott the Woz he has the catalogues look in a Black friday episode and the Garfield Caught in the Act levels mentioned in the games that time forgot episode.
They had updates versions of games. Even Garfield Caught in the Act on Sega Channel I think had additional levels and may be lost but PC or another platform may have them or reordered or something.
Expansions for PC sure but PS1 I can't think of many but some probably exist out there.
Also 360 I have a Borderlands 1 DLC disk. You could count the Elder Scrolls Online disk's as expansions continued for each new major version of the game like WoW did back in the day and still does just maybe not physical anymore and just digital but Elder Scrolls Online does it physical or the first few entries I guess.
But yes the constant content updates per motor show for GT series is impressive. And a definitive edition. And as I guess a besides the one make ones an epilogue to GT3 before the GT4 transition ones/GT4 Prologue.
Even the Sims series on console were separated curated versions before Sims 4 made it DLC.
But expansions from 1-3 in the series on PC besides certain standalone games of the stories/mediaeval not counting castaway, the handheld GBA/DS/PSP versions being spin offs and story based and don't always reflect PC/console. Sims 2 Pets PSP is more like console but Sims 2 PSP is story driven and totally different like the GBA/DS games.
Or certain DS ones all GBA ones were story driven.
Watching this I really got vibes of one of those "iceberg" videos. The 8 main console games are the tip of the iceberg, then we went deeper and deeper underwater. Very interesting though, really enjoyed it.
I remember when I was in Munich in 2015, I went to BMW Welt and there also was a version of Gran Turismo showing off the M models. It was in a simulator seat with wheel and pedal and you were locked to BMW models, M models specifically and since I haven't played a GT game since 4 and never been on a wheel and pedal, it was such an overwhelming experience. The tracks to choose from were also locked and I think one of them was the Nordschleife.
Now, I can't say whether it was a specific edition of GT or just regular GT6 but with locked content but IIRC you could only do singleplayer races.
Outside of that experience, fasnicating video to a question I thought I wouldn't be interested in!
Great video.
I'm lucky enough to own all of the PlayStation Festival demo discs. I absolutely treasure them and GT2000 is the highlight.
Thanks for covering this. As a collector myself I appreciate the time and effort you put in to explore the history of the franchise.
To me, both the distributed games and the dealership games count as GT games, because they are more reminiscent of arcade cabinets than demos
i noticed how they changed the brand logo from daihatsu to whatever car they were demoing in that one track on the banners above etc
Great video! It's nice to learn more about all the lesser-known GT titles to exist. However, there are a couple of games that you missed out, along with their significance to the series. I even played one of them when I was a little girl in 2003, but I unfortunately lost the CD because someone stole it alongside my whole bag during a long trip to a distant continent.
Gran Turismo 2 has several demo builds, mostly released in 1999 but there's one that's released in 2000. I don't remember which version of GT2 demo that I had, but I remember that it featured only one single track playable which is Rome Full Circuit as well as three playable cars: Ford Mustang GT '99, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR '98 (hence why I have a hunch that Lan Evo V's inclusion in GT2000 wasn't a random choice by the devs, in addition to the Dandelion Yellow being one of the color options for it as well), and Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo. From what I read on the internet, there were at least four demo versions of GT2, and the last version of demo which was exclusive to Japan had over 1000 cars on their folder list.
Now, the demo that I played was a single-disc demo that featured both the Arcade Mode and Simulation Mode (called GRAN TURISMO in the demo), but only the Arcade mode was playable. I could navigate the Simulation Mode, but everything apart from the City sections were inaccessible with the label [CLOSED] on each icon. And even then, not every dealership was accessible as well. The only accessible ones that I remember were FIAT, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Suzuki, and TVR. And even in the dealership menu, some sub-menus were inaccessible as well. If I remember correctly, I wasn't able to access the Used Car, Special Model, and Race Event sub-menu, and several dealers with in-house tuning brand (MAZDASPEED and RALLIART) used their respective names instead of the usual Tune Up sub-menu name.
What piqued my interest were the SFX and interface design of the dealerships: Not only did the demo use different SFXs to the final build, but the dealerships also used different layout designs, from their main menu to the car selections. Unlike the final build which used in-game car models for each car icon in the New Car section, the demo actually used real-life pictures of the car in full color, no less. This is the thing that still sticks with me to this very day.
As for the Arcade Mode itself, I already mentioned that it only featured one track and three playable cars. However, in addition to featuring difficulty levels and Class A, B, and C categories just like the final build, it also featured models of other cars as well. Unfortunately, the game locked me from playing the rest of the cars and they had the label [NOT AVAILABLE] on them.
Now, for the race itself, the GT2 demo didn't have a timer, but I was only able to race for one lap and it was such a memorable lap. The physics were almost the same as the final build, and I can attest to that because I was also playing the final build of GT2 during the time I played GT2 demo. Also, I forgot to mention that the whole demo was radio silent with no BGM in every menu possible, including the Simulation Mode, but there existed a single BGM during the race, and it was the GT2 version of Moon Over The Castle. That was the very first time I heard the main theme of Gran Turismo and I wasn't even aware of it due to growing up with the Western releases of PS1 GT games. But when I raced and listened to the soundtrack, I thought it was a very emotional soundtrack that brought me to tears, and I replayed the demo on my relative's PS1 several times just to listen to Moon Over The Castle.
And that was my experience with the GT2 demo. I got the CD when my uncle who lived in another city was about to travel abroad and he gave me that CD as a gift because he knew I loved PS1 so much. However, I only had it for a short time because during my travel with my family, I lost my bag which contained said CD because someone stole it. Thank you so much for releasing this video as it helps me relieve those memories. And more importantly, please forgive me for not being able to preserve the media...
1000 cars in a car list at that time? That is impressive! Do you know if those cars were different versions of the cars already present in the game or if they were unic models like the Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR?
The 1000 cars is a subject that a number of people like RandomCarGuy17, SuperFrizzio, and MattJ155 have already discussed on UA-cam. I don't think I can share a link on the comment section, but you should check out their channels.
Long story shorts, those lists include a combination of unique models (Renault Sport Spider, Pagani Zonda C12, and BMW V12 LMR, for example) and different versions of existing cars in the final build (Jaguar XJR15 racing modification, a couple of RUF variants & JGTC racing modifications, and VW Golf TDI, among others) that didn't make it into the final version. Unfortunately, Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR was one of the earliest cars that Polyphony removed before even the first GT2 demo came out, thus it's not a part of the 1000 car list.
@@lenatama I know the channels of RandomCarGuy17 and MattJ155, I will check their videos to know more about the car list... And thanks for the informations on the 1000 cars from that demo 👍
Interesting seeing an upscaled GT1 opening sequence after remembering what it originally looked like as a kid
Hey, I just wanted to say I love how you structure your videos in a way that's clean, easy to follow and fair given context. Keep it up!
So good video again! In only 3months you became one of my favourite youtuber because of your amazing videos which are very relevant. You’re the only one who makes me learning so much things about my favourite game. I’m very impressed by the researches you done. (Sry for bad english I’m French ;) )
Wake up brother it’s time for another BANGERRRRR🎉🎉🎉🎉
I LOVE THIS VIDEO, COMMON W ROFLWAFFLE
Ironic to see this pop out when a new GT demo has been announced 😅
17:16 Kinda reminds me of how Need for Speed in Japan did a similar thing with Nissan. There were separate versions of the very first game.
The music always gets me; the Tekken 4 rooftop song threw me for a loop. Good stuff
Excellent work, really appreciate your vids mate.
26:33 I was 5 years old and I saw this arcade machine in the Romanian showroom that was in the Tiriac Auto location in Bucharest, which at that time was a car showroom
Polyphony not reusing GT5 and GT6 detailed cars in Sport and GT7 is beyond moronic. They should do it and stop wasting time with overly long development per car that they preoccupy themselves with now.
Drop everything: Roflwaffle released a new video
I remember I had 2 copies of GT3, one was red the other was blue with a Dodge SRT-4 picture
Wasn't the blue cover the tail lights of an Evo?
Gran Turismo®5: Academy Edition? a version of GT5 with added content. 30 extra vehicles and three new courses.
Sony: we cancelled gt 2000 because we didn't finish the game on time.
Giga chad sega: daytona usa 2001
23:25
As of 5th July 2024, the Lupo and the Subaru demos have been dumped online. In its game config files, there is a file named "concept-alfa.gcf" proving of this build's existance.
In the same demo, you could also find config files for most likely Chrysler Crossfire, Audi (RS4/RS6?), Honda Accord(most likely the Euro-R) and Mercedes SL500 demos. At some point, all of these builds existed or planned to exist
I still have my PlayStation magazine demo discs with Gran Turismo in it, in both playable and watchable only. Good to see you again Rofl! Someone needs to create GT ASMR channel using only exhaust and engine sounds lol. See you in the next one. -Medic
Today is another good day to be a Roflwaffle fan.
Damn, I never realised there where this many unknown Gran Turismo games, crazy!
Wow! You got all the information right on point!
My favourite Gran Turismo game is the GT4 Nike Limited Edition. It came with a pair of Nike shoes, a Nike shirt, guidebook and a big aluminium case. If you're one of the 1000 people who owned the game, you could hook up an Eyetoy camera to your PS2 whilst wearing the special Nike shirt to collect what I'd assume is just a free Nike 2022 car. I've seen it appear on Ebay a few times but I can't justify ever buying it.
Wake the BRBRP up samurai, we've got a Roflwaffle video to watch
Always happy when I see you upload ❤
With so many demo and special version revealed, it makes me really wish there are some America's brand special for a upcoming GT project, and with that that gives me an idea for Eden do more special version to cover for his stream on contents as many of us has never heard or never known it has been existed.
Polyphony is the video game dev version of doing all the side quests before doing the next chapter in the main quest
I held 18 or 19 (i forget) out of 20 of the world records on GT HD Concept Time Trials at one point - every car in both directions, almost. Barely anyone knows that existed now 😅
Ayo bro uses F1 2010 and Tekken 4 music. What a cultured man.
It's fascinating and hilarious there are as many installments for a car game as there are for Final Fantasy.
28:16 wii fit music goes hard
Alternative title: the Gran Turismo Extended Universe (GTEU) explained.
I’d consider Sport to be in the prologue category. It was basically a concept/prologue of 7.
4:56 at least Sport has the Passion of Dr Wankel. No numbered GT game can claim that!
Idk like at least 2
Yaaaay my most favorite UA-camr just posted new video :D
I know this is old but I think you forgot Gran Turismo 5 Academy Edition which has more content than the original
I had it once at one point
@@Pri11-k7l I thought about dumping Subaru gt4 edition but I remembered that I don’t have a PS2 dumping tool
The psp game was such a huge miss. All they had to do was put in a career mode 😢
Don’t you absolutely hate it when your watching a video essay with your phone in your pocket, and you accidentally dislike it with your leg and you never noticed until 4 months later😭😭😭
Man, that GT Subaru machine looks awesome, wish I could play it
i like how the video for the online beta shows one of the players lagging at 32:54
Now I understand your channel name lol literal professional waffler
Superb, super eclectic video. 💯 percent sub!!!
I fell like the two Gran Turismo 3 Tentou Shiyuu Versions / Demos are another glimpse into what Gran Turismo 2000 might have been. To me the physics and car handling is still closer to the available GT 2000 Demo, but they already have the GT 3 A-Spec name while featuring entirely different menus.
I'd say this is what I'd count as a Gran Turismo game:
1-7
Sport
PSP
Concept 2002 Tokyo-Geneva
4 Prologue and 5 Prologue
So to give an overview, those are basically all the Gran Turismo games:
1997 | Gran Turismo
1999 | Gran Turismo 2
2000 | Gran Turismo 2000
2001 | Gran Turismo 3
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Seoul
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Geneva
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan GT-R Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Honda Dualnote Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Toyota Pod Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Suzuki GSX-R/4 Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Copen Special Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Airtrek Turbo Special Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan 350Z Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Nissan Micra Edition
2002 | Gran Turismo Concept Alfa Romeo 147 GTA Special Edition
2003 | Gran Turismo 4: Prologue
2003 | Gran Turismo Lupo GTI Cup Japan
2003 | Gran Turismo Lupo GTI Cup Japan 2
2003 | Gran Turismo Subaru Version
2004 | Gran Turismo BMW 1 Series Virtual Drive
2004 | Gran Turismo 4
2004 | Gran Turismo Prius Trial Version
2004 | Gran Turismo Toyota New York Version
2004 | Gran Turismo Toyota Geneva Version
2004 | Gran Turismo Mazda MX-5 Edition
2006 | Gran Turismo Online Test Version
2006 | Gran Turismo Online Public Beta
2006 | Gran Turismo HD
2006 | Tourist Trophy
2007 | Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
2008 | Gran Turismo Special Event Version GT by Citroen
2009 | Gran Turismo Portable
2009 | Gran Turismo Time Trial Challenge
2010 | Gran Turismo 5
2012 | Gran Turismo Academy 2012
2013 | Gran Turismo Academy 2013
2013 | Gran Turismo 6
2017 | Gran Turismo Sport
2022 | Gran Turismo 7
i found interesting that gt4 bmw 1 series editions are propably the only one game in whole franchise with actual registration plates
Someone correct me if i’m wrong, but from what i remember, there’s a version of Gran Turismo 4 playable at the Beuliue Motor Museum in the UK. I think it features the Ford Model T and Austin Healy Sprite and one other car that i’ve forgotten.
38:22 you got tekkened (Tekken 4 OST - Authentic sky)
gt academy is not fully playable as servers are dead, but yes its archived. the 2013 one based on gt6 has beautiful handling
The old GT HD, well, both Classic and Premium, i'm still hoping that someday they'll be found. So much interesting stuff and cut content, like the premium 22B Rally Car
30:20 played that one when I was 12 in the supermarket while my parents were shopping.
It was the reason I pleaded to my father to buy me the GT4 when the price went down to 25 bucks about a year later.
😂😂😂 still remember the other kids wanting to try it and me being the ass I am refusing to let anyone else till I was dragged by my dad.
Video idea: arcade mode Evolution, yes, i know its a small part but i think It would be a good vedeo
Most interesting, as always. On an unrelated note, 'ts' in Japanese is a single sound, pronounced the same way as 'z' in Italian and German (like in 'Competizione', 'Benz', or, well, 'pizza'). I did my best to ignore it up till now, but it seems it's impossible to talk about Gran Turismo without mentioning Tsukuba.
Fun fact:
The ps vita is the only sony console that’s never got a gran turismo title.
A demo of a demo of a demo of a prologue of a demo of a demo of a gran turismo demo of a gran turismo
Tourist trophy was awesome and one of if not the only motorcycle game i really enjoyed, sad they never made a 2nd one
Omega Boost is my favorite GT game.
Seriously?
Omega Boost Chads rise UP
Well, now we need a centralized location do download the demos, no DMCA infringement intended
Fun fact: The online ranking system for GT HD still works (from what I´ve heard, can someone double check in case I just spew bullshit?)
You got the information from me and yes, the system is still running today :P
@@GTArchivePaiky Ok good thing I didnt talk bullshit xD
I never played a gran turismo prologue in my life, I consider gt sport one of them, so i never played it, the last gt I played was gt6 in 2013… that’s all, finally in 2023 I played gt7 on ps5, 10 years later
i remember i actually played the prius thing but i cant remember what happend to the disc.. i just remember as a kid i played it, thought it was wierd and was running out of battery and it was frustrating
Maybe now My first Gran Turismo could also be there?
I've played the Toyota Pod Concept before but on a burnt disc
There's one gran turismo game you forgot and is probably the rarest of them all. Around the timeline of GT PSP and GT5, there was a web game version of gran turismo
GT2, and whichever had the A-spec/B-spec (ai race manager thing) were the best