DDR4 or DDR5: which one should you buy... and why? [REVIEW]
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
- Should you upgrade from DDR4 to DDR5? What's the difference between the two and how relevant is it?
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Average FPS is not useful; you need to include 1% lows, which is where memory typically makes a difference.
I've been hearing reviews mentioning DDR4 and DDR5 for ages but without realising what the differences were so thanks for making this video. Thanks for the benchmark. The other thing I've never understood is the 1x16 2x8 thing on RAM sticks or whatever
Glad we've helped! :)
if you use 1 stick of RAM, you operate in single channel mode. 2 of them work in dual channel mode. So the CPU communicates with the RAM in 2 channels, doublind the bandwidth. The CPU usage will always be lower in dual channel mode, as the data transfer is more efficient. Be careful, cause AMD and Intel, newest generations also prefer the RAM slots to be populated differently. So if you populate for example 2 slots out of 4, there is also a recommended way to do that. Most motheboards have it written on them. Back to dual channel mode. Also match colors when installing RAM.
better said, you will loose ~25-30% of the RAM performance (it's not about the entire system's performance)
IF you are using a single 16GB stick, over 2x8GB.
Thanks for this. Your channel is severely underrated.
Just want to check, is it memory controller issues that are making the performance difference less than expected, or can it be fixed with future motherboard drivers?
Very instructive and well explained , thank you
Thanks. This was actually really helpful information.
About a month ago I finally built myself a new computer. I had to choose between going with a new DDR4 motherboard or a DDR5 motherboard. My main dilemma was I had good DDR4 ram that I could resuse to save a bit of money immediately... Or if I went with a DDR5 motherboard that would leave me open to upgrade to better DDR5 memory years down the line without having to rebuy a new motherboard. I went with the DDR5 in the end because hey, in for a penny, in for a pound. I still think I made the right decision as, if I ever need to upgrade my ram, I won't be blocked by my motherboard so it likely won't actually cost me more moving forward. But this breakdown would have been extremely useful in KNOWING that buying DDR5 ram didn't actually help me in the short run.
cliffs: This is the kind of information that is useful to have when building a new computer. Even if it isn't as sexy of a topic as GPU performance or CPU stuff.
You did the right thing. In a few years you can sell and buy a new one with the money you have. Just like you can sell the DDR4 now. The important thing is to do it quickly, otherwise you're unlikely to be able to sell the DDR4 at all next year. Just like a motherboard and a processor. If they're okay.
@@mischamim744 I gave it to my dad. Turns out he had some mismatched crappy ram, so win win.
This was my experience with a very old desktop computer. It used DDR3 ram. When I wanted to upgrade the ram, it was a bad experience as DDR3 is almost obsolete, very hard to find and --- surprisingly EXPENSIVE because it is outdated and rare. Therefore if considering to change the motherboard, do think of the future. If you buy a DDR4 based motherboard now, in future DDR4 will be very hard to find. By that time, most shops will stock DDR5. Less manufacturers will make DDR4. The performance difference aspect is almost irrelevant.
Not being a gamer, but rather an AUDIO Production enthusiast,,,, since the (DAW) processing is different from graphics, especially in rendering, is it more beneficial to run DDR4 than DDR5? I am thinking of building a PC with ProArt Z790 Creator, with i7-13700k utilizing the integrated graphics, not a card. The Z790 is a DDR5 system and I believe the i7 13700k is rated at 6000mts. I want the system stable so I won't be overclocking and intend to set the limit in the bios at approx 5200. I have decided to use 64GB of DDR5 at 5600 CL 28 hopefully reducing latency( for external MIDI devices) and have a bit of a headroom in the speeds to avoid hiccups. Any comment or advice you can give is useful. Thanks!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Upgraded my pc with 12900k with the delema of do I spend crazy money (early 2022) on ddr5 or keep my 4400bdie ddr4. I went with the later and luckily I am happy this kit gets me c16 4000 @ gear 1. Outside of having a 12th, 13th gen intel with a great IMC allowing 7000+ I see no point on upgrading at least for gaming.
Bro please answer my question :-
Xpg d50 8*4 3200 mzh
OR
Xpg Lancer ddr5 16*2 5200 mzh
Which has better speed ??
Would u test B series motherboard DDR5 vs Z series DDR4 OC?
Great video, Will stick with my ddr43600 cas 14 ;)
Thank you for the tests, Dan!
Mulțumim :)
M-ai convins că mai bine upgradez al meu i5 10400f tot la cevaa intel, ca să pot păstra cei 16gb ram ddr4 la 3200 MT/s.
poate mai bine tot treci pe urmatoarele generatii. Pe mine ma intriga noile procesoare AMD, adica seria 7000 x3D.
@@Yoyo34 urmăresc apariția seriilor non x de procesoare amd 7000. Dar prețul plăcilor de bază mă cam descurajează, să fiu sincer. Știu că vor ține mulți ani și că voi putea face upgrade la procesor, dar totuși.
I think in terms of future upgradability people who are building a new computer should buy a DDR5 compatible motherboard because DDR4 is at the end of its shelf life(this is why DDR4 ram kits are so cheap right now, retailers are trying to get rid of all their old stock). DDR5 is coming down in price now. I recently bought a 32GB DDR5 ram kit for around £110. If I upgrade in 5 years the motherboard and CPU should still be compatible with DDR5 which means less expense.
thanks man! I've been combing through videos rn and your comment has made the most logic out of everything!
Good call. But one issue maybe that our current chipset or cpu's imc would have limited functionality with future ddr5 speed and power..
Ideally wait another year or two for this step into ddr5. Unfortunately not practical for me though, my 3770 build recently exploded and I'm in need of a new machine
Glad i found your video- great info, well balanced and love ur presentation and vibe, than @TechniQualities 😉
I think you need to push both RAM, DDR4 over 4200c16 and DDR5 over 8000c34.
Erm. CAS stands for Column Access Strobe.
Now, i have a build with R7 3700X, 16GB of RAM and an RTX 2060 super. I wana change my setup to 13600K, 32gb of RAM and an RTX 3080 but i don't know if i have to take a ddr5 or ddr4 RAM's kit. Maybe be i will take a ddr5 RAM to be more futur-proof 🤔🤔
I think if you are going to build from zero of intel system then get ddr5 but if you already have a ddr4 ram and a ddr4 motherboard then you don't need to upgrade to ddr5.
@@melalcantara4377 thank you for your advice. I don't have an Intel motherboard so I'm gonna choose drr5 ram
I went with DDR4 and a 13900ks for budget reasons
I have the new tuf with ddr5 and nvidia 6gb ( is not the 4gb version) and to be sincer they are not much better then my old dd4...
I have i9 13900k/RTX4080/128GB DDR4 3600 @ CL18 and i9 13900ks/RTX4090/128GB DDR4 3600 @ CL18 - both running gear 1 (my 128GB RAM 4000 sticks didn't play well at gear 1). Comparing my benchmarks to videos on here and I hold or exceed their numbers so have zero motivation to move to DDR5.
You should get fastest M.2 drives, put them in Raid-0 and test loading time on heavy games to test those memories properly and see if there is any change on times.
I fill the storage is the biggest bottleneck as GPU already have enough VRAM to hold data and avoid memory usage.
City Skyline is a game that keep loading data back and forward from RAM/VRAM/Storage, that game also won't show any change in FPS but it will reduce stutter as you move around and load assets in real time, most game don't need the higher speed but we might see the benefit in the near future as new game engine make better use of it.
I would have to disagree on the comment 'no motherboards can offer the same DDR4 and DDR5' at the same time. It seems the one using MSI PRO Z790-p supports both
Can you send me a link to it? I found only that support DDR5....
DDR4 is also available on 32GB sticks. You said DDR4 is only available in 8GB or 16GB modules.
still on DDR3 :D
Still on SDR lol
DDR5? I've yet to switch to DDR4!
Yeah. I have recently upgraded from DDR3 to 4. I'm already thinking of upgrading even further. very curious about the AMD 7000 X3D series.
Can you decode my comment from back there in 2010? 😂
When i upgraded my build in 2021 i had no choice to go ddr4 because 16gb of ddr5 ram cost almost 300$ lol
I think you timed it well.. I'm no pro but in your situation, I'd go with ddr5 later when ddr6 is gaining momentum. For gamers at least, staying a generation behind the market and building on matured ram is just fine!
Choosing AM5 (DDR5), for one reason only. In a few years you will be able to upgrade the processor and if a new (accelerated) DDR5 comes out. And if you choose Intel, you will have to change the motherboard in a couple of years if you want to change the processor. And the old motherboard is unlikely to sell. Especially DDR4:(
so buying an AMD CPU is more benefitting in the long run, since it can be replaced easier?? i want to build my first pc and wasn´t sure about DDR4 or DDR5 but now the prices are most likely the same so i will use the DDR5, but i wanted to buy the I5-13600KF but your comment got me unsure if the intel is the right decision.
@@weirddylan7721 I looked at many videos about this subject and have not come to a clear conclusion yet about what to buy. But you will save money now and having the same performance. So when it´s time for that "future proof" upgrade people are talking about you would technically have money left from the DDR4 buy to possible make up for those extra costs. There is no easy way of knowing what´s comming or what the prices will be. And people can not know your needs either, specially in the future. If you buy the high end gear now you might keep them so long that upgrades are not buyable even when it´s time and then what did you save. My comp now is pretty much fine and quick except I´m a bit limited by the 1060 6gb gpu and it is 7 years old and was mid+ stuff when i bought. I would go for 32gb ram on my next buy instead of current 16 since I seem to be topping out. Had to close some browsers to be able to play diablo 4 beta. I think you will not go very wrong either way. But if you are a bit low on cash right now I would go for a DDR4 setup with that 13600KF. Personally I don´t think I´m upgrading so often that it´s worth to future proof my setup unless they come out with something insane with ddr5.. but then again it´ll probably be expensive like hell first 1-2 years.. So.. Glad I could help
@@marcusnorberg8498 yeah thx for the advice, I watched countless videos myself bc I too have a 6year old pc with a 1060 3gb I was 13 when my mom bused it for 1000€ got scammed by cal xD. But now I am going with this build I already bought the water cooler and mobo:
Case: Be quiet! Silent Base 802
Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI second hand for 70€ less.
CPU: Ryzen 7 7700x
RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Delta 32GB 6000Mhz CL 30-36-36-76
Cooler: Silent Loop 2 360mm for 50€ less.
PSU: Pire Power 12 M 850W ATX 3.0
I start with this components then i will wait 1month to buy the GPU which is the: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Radeon RX 7900 XT Black Edition. Which is the best 7900 XT at 879€ still way to expensive but still cheaper than the cheapest reference model of the 4070 Ti xD
@@marcusnorberg8498 I forgot the SSD it‘s 2TB of the WD SN850x maybe a 570 if it drops below 90€ for 2TB then as a upgrade the 850x
@@weirddylan7721 Sounds like a nice setup! Yeah I would not dare to say what is best AMD or Intel for future proofing. It can come down to some luck and timing when you are looking to upgrade. Only thing you can do for certain is kind of know what is the best buy right now with looking at a few sites and setting up the best package for your needs and budged =) That rig will probably meet your needs for a long time. Enjoy! =)
Did he say Bandwidth or bandwiff?
What do you think?
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There was so much talk, I had to wait 60% of the video for the first benchmark results.
Oh no, you had to wait 😱
I like his thorough way of doing things. People learn more from his chatter than from a table of results.
@@Yoyo34 Fine, I was just impatient yesterday.
You could either increase playback speed or fast forward to the desired information. I think the talk is nice for educating people who actually want to understand.
@@kurousagi1339 1.5x is my default speed for talks. I should have followed the rest of your advice.