What I noticed between the 2 is, AMD runs excellent for gaming, video and audio editing, ect. Intel runs better off internet streaming, office software, and other applications away from gaming. AMD more dedicated for games and focuses on all the applications for gaming leaving out the home pc applications . Intel does the same thing but vice versa away from gaming applications so PC runs faster for home pc applications .
lol, this is totally nonsense. AMD is more efficient on gaming, Intel is more efficient on Productivity like Rendering, 3D, video editing and much more, not only internet streaming and office ffs.
Thanks for the great overview. Here's one thing that makes me lean toward Intel: the excellent media encoders/decoders built into their integreted GPU's, which includes Quicksynch. My understanding is that these give a distinct advantage in video editing when your footage is shot in the codecs typically used on modern mirrorless cameras, such as h.264 and h.265. The AMD CPU's do not seem to be nearly as good in terms of their media encoders and decoders. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks.
Sorry you are just brain dumping on us just raw press releases it seems. Every three sentences you share with us, imagine us asking the question "So what?" and interject and answer that "So what?". Add pauses at the end of sentences. Your are an insider, if you are just regurgitating, that's not very helpful. Your opinion and analysis do count. Make your time on earth count, be confident in your own thoughts. You too can create quality content!! We believe in you!!
By that logic Apple must be crazy then ...going with 5nm manufacturing process by TSMC for its M series of processors..they should have got their designs manufactured on Intel 14nm FAB, their long term suppliers at that time
Yesterday I went to try out few laptops...nothing fancy just the basic thin & light one for office work..Tried out 2 laptops from dell, on with Intel i3 1215U chip and other with ryzen 3 5425u. The intel model heated up in only a couple of minutes of video playback whereas the ryzen model was working fine.
@@jmtake85 Believe it or not...i just shared what i experienced.. whether it is a problem with intel processor, dell or that particular laptop that is seperate discussion all together
I haven't built a budget build in over a decade. I was going to build one but I'm afraid. I'm not afraid of current technologies or anything of that nature but I am afraid of the terrible reports on the 490, 550, x700 something boards and the USB, audio, SATA issues with AMD and Intel CPU's. There seems to be approximately a 30% of boards having problems (even with BIOS updates and sometimes making worse) and then issues with the CPU's. I don't remember having this much trouble finding reliable parts for my last two builds but this time around I feel like I would just be shoving my money in the garbage disposal then punching myself in the face repeatedly.
@@DunderHead.5000 Depends on your income - I just find Legions to be quite inexpensive for their quality and cooling. If you're looking for a truly budget gaming build, then surely you can choose from 1-3 years old components, all the way down to 2011v3 socket and xeons 😹
@@DunderHead.5000 Got my legion with 12700h, 3070ti, 32gb ram and 2tb SSD for £1750 (probably wouldve been ~$1700) in US and same quality desktop build would cost me ~$1300. I'd choose desktop if I wasn't changing countries every year
@@ruslan_yefimov I just got done building mine for approximately $800, buying $200 worth of parts a month. Arctic 420 - approximately $200 Meshify 2xl - approximately $150 (on sale) Mag B660m Mortar DDR4 wifi - approximately $178 Corsair RMX850 - approximately $180 Had thermal paste, cables, hdds and video card laying around.
Your video production quality improved alot, I hop to see a 100k sub in a short time. Also note people want to see more graphs that can increase video quality to a step above ,I hope you to include that more in future videos.
That’s preety much a no brainer. AMD has a much longer platform life. Intel runs way too hot. There is no competition and it is easy to choose based on above facts.
I've had both intel and amd and honestly I haven't noticed a difference cpu wise between the two companies but for gpus amd seems to have more issues than nvidia in my experience
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As long as AMD provides long term support of their AM4 and AM5 platforms, I will be loyal. The cost savings I have realized since 2018 on my two (2) AM4 systems when making upgrades has been considerable. Add the fact that AMD has some incredible performance with lower power requirements is just icing on the cake. Throw in X3D technology and SAM support and it is hard to support Intel. I do not see Intel competing in the desktop market much longer. They have spread themselved too thin and will have to direct resources into laptops to stop the bleeding. Same with the server market, which AMD is well positioned to continue consuming more market share in this area. Intel is in trouble and the rats will be abandoning this sinking ship, further hurting its ability to compete in the future.
you do realise intel is making a better 3d cache right its in their new xeons the 7950x3d can barely beat an i9 the i9 only has 6p cores it beats a 64 core threadripper with just 6 cores and it doesnt have much cache not to mention it doesnt even have 3d cache and its on a bigger lithography also not to mention intel still dominates the market by alot this always happens amd tries to be better achieves it for a bit then goes back to making turd cpus a company that started off selling knock off pentiums true fact btw intel saved them many times intel is just the bigger company has so much more money i can only assume they spent the last few years designing ai accelerators because the new xeons are real good with ai now about 4-5x better than AMDs
Yeah amd is just marketing 😂. They even try to advertise as if they have 2x core than actual number in fx processors I don't trust them. I will just see the actual benchmarking. Their core numbers are misleading. Also amd doesn't own 7nm or 5nm technology it was produced by TSM and own by them. Once intel go to TSM it will be completely different story
Clearly amd. way cheaper. better for gaming and productivity. Longer motherboard support. Intel relying on increasing frequency rather than optimization and other techniques. Even intel fan boys know this, but turns blind eye since they are a fan boy. I've used intel CPUs from the past, and I loved them. Sadly, they got stucked with their 14 nm node for a long time. I know 14 nm intel and 7 nm amd is different, but the power consumption says what it says. I am not a dog for either of the product, and I always choose which is better.
cant lie intel is known for reliability there is no other company out there that makes cpus that people have used over 10+ years they just keep going i dont know anyone that has an fx 8370 but i know quite alot of people with 4790s 4930s even first gen i7s might not be mind blowing performance but they sure do last a long time the performance isnt awful still playing the newest games quite well just waiting on intels 3d cache which is amazing as even a 6 p core i9 beats the newest amd cpu that has quadruple the i9s cache and its 3d amd just cant quite get past intels 3d cache is supposedly better and the new cpus should come with ai accelerators
Just updated my X99 5960X Haswell-E build. It was overclocked to 4.6Ghz and ran 24/7 since 2014, no issues. Previous X58 980X build ran 24/7 from 2009 till 2014 at 4.5Ghz. I just updated my dad's first gen i7 quad two weeks ago solely to get 4k HDR support, it was still pretty fast running on Manjaro, but for that he no longer needed a tower and I switched him to a simple Beelink. I also built a few other Intel rigs for other people that all still work fine today. First gen i7's/i5's still do seem fairly fast running on SSD's and a linux OS. My dad's old tower is a testament to what you said up there, that thing still runs solid and I built it for him back in 2008 or so.
My first build was a phenom quad core cpu. 3.2 GHz and I used that from 2010 until 2020. Which now I have 5900x 3.7 GHz base clock speed. My friends with Intel were always buying new cpus and I don’t know why when I kept mine forever.
@@tj7094 the phenom wasn't even super great when it came out its like me sticking with a pentium 4 for 20 years it makes no sense like what you've just done using an awful CPU for that long there was 0 point in it. the 4790k was the most powerful at one point and is definitely still usable today the phenom stopped being usable just a couple years after it came out its triple cored and really slow single core performance and awful multicore performance it was useless
@@tj7094 but sure if you want to talk it that way many businesses still use core 2 quads and first gen i3s i5s and i7s very rarely find anything AMD being up to that performance for that long i say very rarely because the f 8350 wasnt an awful cpu wasnt great but it was decent you might find a few of those hanging around
TDP does not necessarily indicate a lower power consumption. The power consumption of the 13900K in a 45 test average centered around applications, the 13900K had the highest power draw at 166w. With power limits removed, it was 185w. The 7950x landed at 125w, a tangible difference.
I don't know about 'recent years'; Back in the 1990's when the first pentiums were released the AMD processors were notably faster at times than the intel counterparts. Intel would release a pentium and AMD would follow a few months later with a faster CPU. I was working in a computer shop and I'd swap CPU every few months. Typically when going from an intel to an AMD I'd get a more performant CPU for 80% of the price (imagine upgrading your computer ànd getting money back - those were the days. intel was in dire straits in those days, they got on top again and it's been back and forth for 30+ years.
I have used both in HP and Dell notebooks. In general I prefer Intel because in over 30 years of use, Intel lasted and several AMD chips crapped out. Some of this may have been how a laptop was designed or built but I do not trust the AMD chips. I was in hardware sales with Compusa. then moved to software and hardware sales with HP and IT security Sales with TrueSecure and later in the Citrix environment,
In this time people's are self.part. and not socially aligned and sociability trained...this is why this time is exciting to hear/see in using current technology
When I build a new computer I look for the point where the price drops significantly. At this time the Intel 12700k is around $300 while the next step up runs or above $500. Budget has to play a part in the decision process
INTELs will always be greater than RYZENs, price will also be ridiculously higher than RYZENs, I've been using INTEL everything from Desktop to Laptop to Tablets, I had enough experienced with INTELs, now it's time switch to RYZEN... INTEL CPUs may emptoed your pocket while with RYZEN your pocket won't be empty & you still have some money in pocket to buy other things you need to buy...
I built a new pc using the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X which is the 12 core CPU and I paired it on an ASUS TUF Motherboard with the x570 chipset, I have 2 NVMe drives from Samsung the 980 PRO and one is 1TB, the other is 2TB and both support PCIe 4.0 x 4, and the graphics card is also from ASUS, the RX 6750XT OC and this system is more than enough to play the latest games without the CPU being the bottleneck in any game ever at a resolution of 3440x1440 which is an ultra wide display, lately I'm playing Star Citizen and it runs very smooth, even with that game my CPU isn't used very much in-game. Most of the work is done by the GPU and even that doesn't need to be pegged to 100% usage all the time, it runs at about 65 degree Celsius when it's being used at 100%. I'm very happy with my new system, I have no regrets getting the 3900X CPU and it does everything I need it to do and more, I still have my old pc which is now just over a decade old and that one does pretty much everything except for the latest new games that's not possible anymore but Shadow of the Tomb Raider can still be played if I turn down the graphics a bit. If it wasn't for the latest new games that I really wanted to play I wouldn't have bought this new computer, I would have used the old one until it didn't want to startup anymore for some hardware related reason.
When i got my gaming pc's in dec 2016 and april 2017 respectively, amd sucked. Now amd is awesome I'd still go with intel because i am more familiar with them One of my computers tho have an amd graphics card
You should've made sure to watch your video again before uploading, you're literally saying the same thing twice, but with the wrong CPU the first time...
Intel is reliable. Haven't had problems with it. As for AMD, i did experience them once, it was fine but the laptop was crappy and the fan broke and the thing overheated but that seems to happen when the fan is dusty or broken as it happened on a Intel HP laptop I had after. I am open to trying AMD when I go for the Framework laptop maybe buy the 13 with the 780m APU and 7840 CPU and experience something a bit different.
Happy to say AI is considered but asa Conscious it is regulated and works at a demographic information level...in your time this K of difference between Africa and America technology journeys
I'm a time traveller.. I will let u know home based compute units all same untill 2037 some remotes use until 2060 .. After this world uses centrally access units..
This lecture of the script, because that's all I can call it, lecture, has been read with little to no expression, and is very hard to digest, especially when it's explained in such a boring and linear way. It almost feels like a robot reading over the script.
@@techniqualities well thats even more concerning then, the video is great but how do you manage to talk like that without a script lol, take linus as an example, every now and then there are some jokes, something slightly unrelated, to keep the video scrolling and more digestable
its not ill tell you why its struggling it can barely beat the i5 the i9 beats it, they both have 6p cores that means 6 cores that actually do something, ryzen has 16 p cores with quadruple cache and much much faster cache yet even the i5 is sitting with top ryzen 9 cpus on a smaller lithography, they're good cpus dont get me wrong but they're turd they should really be breezing past intel but instead their losing to intel, amd just cant run away they cant, an i9 has better multi thread performance than a threadripper 2970x 24-64 cores against 6 and it loses, good but at the same time really godamn turd
@@kieranlee9610 We must be looking at different info or something. These top tier cpus on both sides are not very far apart. Even the 5800x3d is just slapping. I put that in my daughters aging system with 6700xt and wow was I impressed. Unless you are buying a 7900xtx or 4090 I doubt you would notice a difference between a 7700x amd 13700k and up cpus. To me it comes down to pricing. I can go buy a 7900x with 32 gig ram and a solid mobo with pci 5 and wifi for 599. Wow... they cannot offer similar deals in Intel because intel cannot afford to drop margin.
@@kieranlee9610 lol also you are comparing a 2018 chip to a cutting edge node and architecture. You know the 7600x also performs more than 4 times better than that 2018 threadripper? The only reason you would want that is for the pci lanes at this point. I think your bias has you a bit blinded to the facts. Where I live the number 1 selling cpu is the 5600g. With the price point that we can build those systems at, intel is a joke. Also, people have the option to upgrade to a 5800x3d if they come into some cash. Professional engineers often make less than 12k a year where I live. BTW the reason I mentioned that 7900x deal is that I work internationally and I frequently travel near a microcenter.
In times of high energy prices and global warming (see California at the moment) I tend to AMD and especially to their X3D-CPU's although I have to buy DDR5 and a Zen5-Board, which are both more expensive, than DDR 4 and Zen4-Boards, if I would build myselfe a intel-System, with DDR4, which needs more energy.
We can make our own energy. Ad for the heat generated I would argue it is less than what we would use performing tasks manually both from the lighting and other tools required and the body heat working the problem over the course of 3 days vs 3 minutes on the computer. 😎
AMD x3d is terrible take it from me who had his 7900x3d and motherboard burnt and amd rma service being terrible and slow. Just save urself the trouble and go intel as much as they’re terrible with efficiency at least it won’t blow up
I do a lot of self-taped videos and photos for my acting, singing, etc/., in addition to schoolwork for my real job as a teacher. I need to purchase a new laptop, and desktop which is best? I love my all-in-one desktop which does not have system requirements for Microsoft Windows 11. Hard Drives do not have enough space on either. My laptop is over six years old! HELP!
Not sure what type of desktop you have currently. But maybe you cans still make it work if it has an i5 or i7 Intel chip. You did mention you have a hard drive, soo the first step I would doo is swap the hard drive out for a ssd, or nvme drive if your current system has a spot for it, if not then just upgrade to a ssd. SSDs, are way faster than a hard drive, hard drives are very slow and I wouldn't recommend them. Nvme drives are even faster than a ssd.
Intel all the way for video encoding, Intel has higher quality encoding, Gamers Nexus switched their video editing rig to Intel for that reason. Intel for your desktop if that's your primary video editing rig, and AMD would likely be better for your laptop given the power efficiency if you run on the battery a lot. With both you want to make sure you're running on good nvme drives for speed, especially working with larger files associated with recordings.
realistically its like 3pence more to run a year i dont know why anyone complains about it if you want a cheaper way to run it get a laptop or something
@@kieranlee9610 I went with 13900k plus a much bigger 55" 4k display and my electric bill dropped 19%. Computer is on 24/7 as well, running bots, NAS, and plex server. I'm not having heat issues either, I just did as everyone out there suggested using a Chinese mounting bracket and really good TIM (Conductonaut). The power consumption argument is stupid, if it's an issue they're better off updating their house because all these new computer components use far less power compared to a few years ago. Update insulation/windows, switch to a tankless water heater, check door seals, etc. All those things will save far more money than the difference a processor will ever make.
People say that going AMD will future proof your investment but, tbh, Intel has it right with updating motherboards every 2 years. There's no such thing as future proofing guys. (Not in the tech industry) Get the best you can afford right now so you can have more money to spend later, not the other way around, no matter how many times some content creators tell you.... So, in conclusion, I would go for an Intel i5 13600k for gaming and get cheaper ddr4 at 3200 to 3600 MHz at CL16 or lower. Or, if you have already have a Ryzen motherboard, go with a Ryzen 5800x3d.
The future proofing is even more nullified, everyone thought Z790 is end of the line with 13th gen, although a leaked timetable of Intel showed that 15th gen or so will contain Z790 releases for desktop. I wouldn't worry about the PCIE thing either, you only need one 5.0 slot for a card, as the 5.0 m.2's aren't much better besides for small random writes. You can get pretty much identical performance just running two cheaper 980 pros or similar in raid 0, and also not deal with the goofy heatsink or heat issues with 5.0 m.2's. All these processors are plenty of power for 5yrs, there won't be much of a point upgrading them sooner.
@@ronin2885 Intel if overall performance is the most important factor for you. AMD if the efficiency matters most to you. Both of those processors are very similar. I don't know how much you work with video, but Intel has the better quality encoding of the two.
I got a 13900k, but you better have one helluva AIO for this thing. It can get Toasty under load. And 1000w PSU cause it consumes a generous amount of power.
Use one of those $10 chinese mounting brackets to replace the stock mounting bracket and Conductonaut liquid metal TIM. I'm not having any heat issues with that configuration. I am running my same old Heatkiller water block with the new heavy 13th gen backplate instead of an AIO though.
well actually the 13900k is right on the 7950x3ds ass thats with 4x less cache no 3d cache and it only has 6p cores the 7950x3d has 10p cores more and is really really really struggling thats the problem its not impressive with 10 cores more and quadruple the cache with much much faster cache it just cant run away its struggling against something it should breeze past
no se te entiende nada capo, y para gaming es mejor amd, y si decis que el cpu de amd es feo, literalmente no se ve el cpu jamas una vez esta en la motherboard
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i dont know about that man i9 13900k with 6 cores that actually do something against big 16 cores of the ryzen while the ryzen has quadruple cache and much much faster cache its really really really pathetic performance the ryzen should breeze past it instead its right behind the i9 that only has 6 cores
13900k has 8 P-cores, not 6, but yeah I like Intel's approach more. AMD seems to be in trouble, more than they're letting us on, because they're imitating Intel's design going forward with P and E cores lol. First leaked info about Intel's future releases was leaked and they seem to be making huge gains in efficiency, same P and E core setup. AMD might have some issues since they're switching over to Intel's approach, that's the risk with AM5 that nobody's talking about. Having that socket around to '25 sounds great, but that's IF their big-little core approach doesn't flop. The Intel timetable also showed more releases for Z790, so it's not quite dead like everyone thought, 15th gen might give it some crazy good processors.
@@boxlid214 yeah i mistook i5s p cores with i9 yeah it has 8 p cores im thinking in the scale of things the i9 has slower cores speeds slower cache and about 90mbs less cache just watched LTT's vid on it the ryzen 7950x3d is kind of a flop bad drivers crashing still losing to the i9 i mean the 7950x3d should breeze past but its struggling history repeats itself AMD gets or tries to get to the top fails ends up at the bottom again with a bad name they should slow down and stop releasing badly designed cpus i dont want to buy 2 cpus just so one can be used to update the bios lets hope intel comes out with good cpus i mean they always do you cant exactly say none of them are bad worse than others yeah but far from what these new ryzen cpus are like
What I noticed between the 2 is, AMD runs excellent for gaming, video and audio editing, ect. Intel runs better off internet streaming, office software, and other applications away from gaming. AMD more dedicated for games and focuses on all the applications for gaming leaving out the home pc applications . Intel does the same thing but vice versa away from gaming applications so PC runs faster for home pc applications .
What about 3D softwares .....
I really need something reliable for Unreal Engine, Maya , Blender etc
@@lavatr8322get a cpu wherein the single core is stronger or faster. Watch benchmarks about that on your cpu choices
lol, this is totally nonsense. AMD is more efficient on gaming, Intel is more efficient on Productivity like Rendering, 3D, video editing and much more, not only internet streaming and office ffs.
@@Ryzen9800-c2ywould you say intel i9 is still ok for gaming?
Thanks for the great overview. Here's one thing that makes me lean toward Intel: the excellent media encoders/decoders built into their integreted GPU's, which includes Quicksynch. My understanding is that these give a distinct advantage in video editing when your footage is shot in the codecs typically used on modern mirrorless cameras, such as h.264 and h.265. The AMD CPU's do not seem to be nearly as good in terms of their media encoders and decoders. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks.
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Sorry you are just brain dumping on us just raw press releases it seems. Every three sentences you share with us, imagine us asking the question "So what?" and interject and answer that "So what?". Add pauses at the end of sentences.
Your are an insider, if you are just regurgitating, that's not very helpful. Your opinion and analysis do count. Make your time on earth count, be confident in your own thoughts.
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Short answer: INTEL
saying nanometer is pointless marketing hype. it has nothing to do with transistor size or pitch anymore. It's literally meaningless.
By that logic Apple must be crazy then ...going with 5nm manufacturing process by TSMC for its M series of processors..they should have got their designs manufactured on Intel 14nm FAB, their long term suppliers at that time
Yesterday I went to try out few laptops...nothing fancy just the basic thin & light one for office work..Tried out 2 laptops from dell, on with Intel i3 1215U chip and other with ryzen 3 5425u. The intel model heated up in only a couple of minutes of video playback whereas the ryzen model was working fine.
@@ramanchawla5081 It's not logic. It's true. There are plenty of articles out there on it. It's just marketting hype.
@@ramanchawla5081 lie!! you never use dell 12gen i3 it will never get hot for just doing normal task
@@jmtake85 Believe it or not...i just shared what i experienced.. whether it is a problem with intel processor, dell or that particular laptop that is seperate discussion all together
i got 7700 non x this time and in the future i go for 8000 flagship both of cpu and videocard.
How is it going with 7700, Im planning to buy it. What cooler are you using? Is it good for gaming? Thank you in advance
I haven't built a budget build in over a decade. I was going to build one but I'm afraid. I'm not afraid of current technologies or anything of that nature but I am afraid of the terrible reports on the 490, 550, x700 something boards and the USB, audio, SATA issues with AMD and Intel CPU's. There seems to be approximately a 30% of boards having problems (even with BIOS updates and sometimes making worse) and then issues with the CPU's. I don't remember having this much trouble finding reliable parts for my last two builds but this time around I feel like I would just be shoving my money in the garbage disposal then punching myself in the face repeatedly.
If you want a budget gaming machine, you can go with mid-range legion 5 or 5 Pro laptops - at least you will have a warranty and portability as well
@@ruslan_yefimov I can build one for less than half the price of one of those laptops. I don't have a $1,300 budget.
@@DunderHead.5000 Depends on your income - I just find Legions to be quite inexpensive for their quality and cooling. If you're looking for a truly budget gaming build, then surely you can choose from 1-3 years old components, all the way down to 2011v3 socket and xeons 😹
@@DunderHead.5000 Got my legion with 12700h, 3070ti, 32gb ram and 2tb SSD for £1750 (probably wouldve been ~$1700) in US and same quality desktop build would cost me ~$1300. I'd choose desktop if I wasn't changing countries every year
@@ruslan_yefimov I just got done building mine for approximately $800, buying $200 worth of parts a month.
Arctic 420 - approximately $200
Meshify 2xl - approximately $150 (on sale)
Mag B660m Mortar DDR4 wifi - approximately $178
Corsair RMX850 - approximately $180
Had thermal paste, cables, hdds and video card laying around.
Your video production quality improved alot, I hop to see a 100k sub in a short time. Also note people want to see more graphs that can increase video quality to a step above ,I hope you to include that more in future videos.
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That’s preety much a no brainer. AMD has a much longer platform life. Intel runs way too hot. There is no competition and it is easy to choose based on above facts.
Intel = Efficiency
AMD = Performance
Market Share
Intel (51%) & AMD (49%)
I Prefer AMD
I've had both intel and amd and honestly I haven't noticed a difference cpu wise between the two companies but for gpus amd seems to have more issues than nvidia in my experience
GREAT comparison, very comprehensive
Quantum computes don't work long term due to memories loss ...look into The space Between atoms and changes in strictly regulated string theory for improvements
Aren't they going to be used more as processors than as storage?
As long as AMD provides long term support of their AM4 and AM5 platforms, I will be loyal. The cost savings I have realized since 2018 on my two (2) AM4 systems when making upgrades has been considerable. Add the fact that AMD has some incredible performance with lower power requirements is just icing on the cake. Throw in X3D technology and SAM support and it is hard to support Intel. I do not see Intel competing in the desktop market much longer. They have spread themselved too thin and will have to direct resources into laptops to stop the bleeding. Same with the server market, which AMD is well positioned to continue consuming more market share in this area. Intel is in trouble and the rats will be abandoning this sinking ship, further hurting its ability to compete in the future.
you do realise intel is making a better 3d cache right its in their new xeons the 7950x3d can barely beat an i9 the i9 only has 6p cores it beats a 64 core threadripper with just 6 cores and it doesnt have much cache not to mention it doesnt even have 3d cache and its on a bigger lithography also not to mention intel still dominates the market by alot this always happens amd tries to be better achieves it for a bit then goes back to making turd cpus a company that started off selling knock off pentiums true fact btw intel saved them many times intel is just the bigger company has so much more money i can only assume they spent the last few years designing ai accelerators because the new xeons are real good with ai now about 4-5x better than AMDs
Yeah amd is just marketing 😂. They even try to advertise as if they have 2x core than actual number in fx processors I don't trust them. I will just see the actual benchmarking. Their core numbers are misleading. Also amd doesn't own 7nm or 5nm technology it was produced by TSM and own by them. Once intel go to TSM it will be completely different story
Is there an issue of CHECKSUMS with AMD versus Intel?
Also, do both AMD and Intel perform similarly regarding 3D, multimedia applications?
Clearly amd. way cheaper. better for gaming and productivity. Longer motherboard support. Intel relying on increasing frequency rather than optimization and other techniques. Even intel fan boys know this, but turns blind eye since they are a fan boy. I've used intel CPUs from the past, and I loved them. Sadly, they got stucked with their 14 nm node for a long time. I know 14 nm intel and 7 nm amd is different, but the power consumption says what it says. I am not a dog for either of the product, and I always choose which is better.
If I was using my PC for mostly gaming while still some home office application, would intel or AMD be better?
In the future they integrate RAM and GPU together..but they change every 3 months
cant lie intel is known for reliability there is no other company out there that makes cpus that people have used over 10+ years they just keep going i dont know anyone that has an fx 8370 but i know quite alot of people with 4790s 4930s even first gen i7s might not be mind blowing performance but they sure do last a long time the performance isnt awful still playing the newest games quite well just waiting on intels 3d cache which is amazing as even a 6 p core i9 beats the newest amd cpu that has quadruple the i9s cache and its 3d amd just cant quite get past intels 3d cache is supposedly better and the new cpus should come with ai accelerators
Just updated my X99 5960X Haswell-E build. It was overclocked to 4.6Ghz and ran 24/7 since 2014, no issues. Previous X58 980X build ran 24/7 from 2009 till 2014 at 4.5Ghz. I just updated my dad's first gen i7 quad two weeks ago solely to get 4k HDR support, it was still pretty fast running on Manjaro, but for that he no longer needed a tower and I switched him to a simple Beelink. I also built a few other Intel rigs for other people that all still work fine today. First gen i7's/i5's still do seem fairly fast running on SSD's and a linux OS. My dad's old tower is a testament to what you said up there, that thing still runs solid and I built it for him back in 2008 or so.
My first build was a phenom quad core cpu. 3.2 GHz and I used that from 2010 until 2020. Which now I have 5900x 3.7 GHz base clock speed. My friends with Intel were always buying new cpus and I don’t know why when I kept mine forever.
@@tj7094 the phenom wasn't even super great when it came out its like me sticking with a pentium 4 for 20 years it makes no sense like what you've just done using an awful CPU for that long there was 0 point in it. the 4790k was the most powerful at one point and is definitely still usable today the phenom stopped being usable just a couple years after it came out its triple cored and really slow single core performance and awful multicore performance it was useless
@@tj7094 but sure if you want to talk it that way many businesses still use core 2 quads and first gen i3s i5s and i7s very rarely find anything AMD being up to that performance for that long i say very rarely because the f 8350 wasnt an awful cpu wasnt great but it was decent you might find a few of those hanging around
@@kieranlee9610 worked great for all those years, only when it finally held me back. I upgraded it.
Which is better processor for programming? Amd or intel
AMD
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You said 7950X has lower power consumption than 13900K, that is simply wrong. All specs say 13900K has max TDP at 125W and 7950X at 170W.
TDP does not necessarily indicate a lower power consumption. The power consumption of the 13900K in a 45 test average centered around applications, the 13900K had the highest power draw at 166w. With power limits removed, it was 185w. The 7950x landed at 125w, a tangible difference.
I don't know about 'recent years';
Back in the 1990's when the first pentiums were released the AMD processors were notably faster at times than the intel counterparts. Intel would release a pentium and AMD would follow a few months later with a faster CPU. I was working in a computer shop and I'd swap CPU every few months. Typically when going from an intel to an AMD I'd get a more performant CPU for 80% of the price (imagine upgrading your computer ànd getting money back - those were the days. intel was in dire straits in those days, they got on top again and it's been back and forth for 30+ years.
I have used both in HP and Dell notebooks. In general I prefer Intel because in over 30 years of use, Intel lasted and several AMD chips crapped out. Some of this may have been how a laptop was designed or built but I do not trust the AMD chips. I was in hardware sales with Compusa. then moved to software and hardware sales with HP and IT security Sales with TrueSecure and later in the Citrix environment,
which would i choose if i want to stream videogames and edit videos
And then there's me with my crappy old i5-7400 potato.
dude i have i5 4590
i5-760 here
In this time people's are self.part. and not socially aligned and sociability trained...this is why this time is exciting to hear/see in using current technology
When I build a new computer I look for the point where the price drops significantly. At this time the Intel 12700k is around $300 while the next step up runs or above $500. Budget has to play a part in the decision process
INTELs will always be greater than RYZENs, price will also be ridiculously higher than RYZENs, I've been using INTEL everything from Desktop to Laptop to Tablets, I had enough experienced with INTELs, now it's time switch to RYZEN... INTEL CPUs may emptoed your pocket while with RYZEN your pocket won't be empty & you still have some money in pocket to buy other things you need to buy...
*emptied
13th gen can also work with pcie 5.0 drives. My motherboard has it
Yeah, this guy is talking out of his 🍑
I built a new pc using the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X which is the 12 core CPU and I paired it on an ASUS TUF Motherboard with the x570 chipset, I have 2 NVMe drives from Samsung the 980 PRO and one is 1TB, the other is 2TB and both support PCIe 4.0 x 4, and the graphics card is also from ASUS, the RX 6750XT OC and this system is more than enough to play the latest games without the CPU being the bottleneck in any game ever at a resolution of 3440x1440 which is an ultra wide display, lately I'm playing Star Citizen and it runs very smooth, even with that game my CPU isn't used very much in-game.
Most of the work is done by the GPU and even that doesn't need to be pegged to 100% usage all the time, it runs at about 65 degree Celsius when it's being used at 100%.
I'm very happy with my new system, I have no regrets getting the 3900X CPU and it does everything I need it to do and more, I still have my old pc which is now just over a decade old and that one does pretty much everything except for the latest new games that's not possible anymore but Shadow of the Tomb Raider can still be played if I turn down the graphics a bit.
If it wasn't for the latest new games that I really wanted to play I wouldn't have bought this new computer, I would have used the old one until it didn't want to startup anymore for some hardware related reason.
When i got my gaming pc's in dec 2016 and april 2017 respectively, amd sucked. Now amd is awesome
I'd still go with intel because i am more familiar with them
One of my computers tho have an amd graphics card
So which one is better intel or amd
for me Intel no issues plug and play
ARM and Intel merge with R and M processing compute units being the background of all compute units
You should've made sure to watch your video again before uploading, you're literally saying the same thing twice, but with the wrong CPU the first time...
Desktop for routine office work, Intel.
Gaming and video editing, AMD easily.
Intel is reliable. Haven't had problems with it.
As for AMD, i did experience them once, it was fine but the laptop was crappy and the fan broke and the thing overheated but that seems to happen when the fan is dusty or broken as it happened on a Intel HP laptop I had after. I am open to trying AMD when I go for the Framework laptop maybe buy the 13 with the 780m APU and 7840 CPU and experience something a bit different.
nothing like intel
Happy to say AI is considered but asa Conscious it is regulated and works at a demographic information level...in your time this K of difference between Africa and America technology journeys
You will see
I'm a time traveller.. I will let u know home based compute units all same untill 2037 some remotes use until 2060 .. After this world uses centrally access units..
Intel for me since AMD never really impressed me. Happy New Year.
This lecture of the script, because that's all I can call it, lecture, has been read with little to no expression, and is very hard to digest, especially when it's explained in such a boring and linear way.
It almost feels like a robot reading over the script.
Except that was no script :)))
@@techniqualities well thats even more concerning then, the video is great but how do you manage to talk like that without a script lol, take linus as an example, every now and then there are some jokes, something slightly unrelated, to keep the video scrolling and more digestable
Iv allways bought intel just like ive allways bought nvidia to me its preference
Amd is just slapping...
its not ill tell you why its struggling it can barely beat the i5 the i9 beats it, they both have 6p cores that means 6 cores that actually do something, ryzen has 16 p cores with quadruple cache and much much faster cache yet even the i5 is sitting with top ryzen 9 cpus on a smaller lithography, they're good cpus dont get me wrong but they're turd they should really be breezing past intel but instead their losing to intel, amd just cant run away they cant, an i9 has better multi thread performance than a threadripper 2970x 24-64 cores against 6 and it loses, good but at the same time really godamn turd
@@kieranlee9610 We must be looking at different info or something. These top tier cpus on both sides are not very far apart. Even the 5800x3d is just slapping. I put that in my daughters aging system with 6700xt and wow was I impressed. Unless you are buying a 7900xtx or 4090 I doubt you would notice a difference between a 7700x amd 13700k and up cpus. To me it comes down to pricing. I can go buy a 7900x with 32 gig ram and a solid mobo with pci 5 and wifi for 599. Wow... they cannot offer similar deals in Intel because intel cannot afford to drop margin.
@@kieranlee9610 lol also you are comparing a 2018 chip to a cutting edge node and architecture. You know the 7600x also performs more than 4 times better than that 2018 threadripper? The only reason you would want that is for the pci lanes at this point. I think your bias has you a bit blinded to the facts. Where I live the number 1 selling cpu is the 5600g. With the price point that we can build those systems at, intel is a joke. Also, people have the option to upgrade to a 5800x3d if they come into some cash. Professional engineers often make less than 12k a year where I live.
BTW the reason I mentioned that 7900x deal is that I work internationally and I frequently travel near a microcenter.
In times of high energy prices and global warming (see California at the moment) I tend to AMD and especially to their X3D-CPU's although I have to buy DDR5 and a Zen5-Board, which are both more expensive, than DDR 4 and Zen4-Boards, if I would build myselfe a intel-System, with DDR4, which needs more energy.
We can make our own energy. Ad for the heat generated I would argue it is less than what we would use performing tasks manually both from the lighting and other tools required and the body heat working the problem over the course of 3 days vs 3 minutes on the computer. 😎
AMD x3d is terrible take it from me who had his 7900x3d and motherboard burnt and amd rma service being terrible and slow. Just save urself the trouble and go intel as much as they’re terrible with efficiency at least it won’t blow up
@_term_ye
I do a lot of self-taped videos and photos for my acting, singing, etc/., in addition to schoolwork for my real job as a teacher. I need to purchase a new laptop, and desktop which is best? I love my all-in-one desktop which does not have system requirements for Microsoft Windows 11. Hard Drives do not have enough space on either. My laptop is over six years old! HELP!
Not sure what type of desktop you have currently.
But maybe you cans still make it work if it has an i5 or i7 Intel chip.
You did mention you have a hard drive, soo the first step I would doo is swap the hard drive out for a ssd, or nvme drive if your current system has a spot for it, if not then just upgrade to a ssd.
SSDs, are way faster than a hard drive, hard drives are very slow and I wouldn't recommend them. Nvme drives are even faster than a ssd.
Intel all the way for video encoding, Intel has higher quality encoding, Gamers Nexus switched their video editing rig to Intel for that reason. Intel for your desktop if that's your primary video editing rig, and AMD would likely be better for your laptop given the power efficiency if you run on the battery a lot. With both you want to make sure you're running on good nvme drives for speed, especially working with larger files associated with recordings.
as i old amd user , I feel more for intel here . is better etc .
Thinking's at CEO and CFO level needs to change in your times
One thing I'm missing is energy consumption.
realistically its like 3pence more to run a year i dont know why anyone complains about it if you want a cheaper way to run it get a laptop or something
@@kieranlee9610 I went with 13900k plus a much bigger 55" 4k display and my electric bill dropped 19%. Computer is on 24/7 as well, running bots, NAS, and plex server. I'm not having heat issues either, I just did as everyone out there suggested using a Chinese mounting bracket and really good TIM (Conductonaut). The power consumption argument is stupid, if it's an issue they're better off updating their house because all these new computer components use far less power compared to a few years ago. Update insulation/windows, switch to a tankless water heater, check door seals, etc. All those things will save far more money than the difference a processor will ever make.
People say that going AMD will future proof your investment but, tbh, Intel has it right with updating motherboards every 2 years.
There's no such thing as future proofing guys. (Not in the tech industry)
Get the best you can afford right now so you can have more money to spend later, not the other way around, no matter how many times some content creators tell you....
So, in conclusion, I would go for an Intel i5 13600k for gaming and get cheaper ddr4 at 3200 to 3600 MHz at CL16 or lower.
Or, if you have already have a Ryzen motherboard, go with a Ryzen 5800x3d.
The future proofing is even more nullified, everyone thought Z790 is end of the line with 13th gen, although a leaked timetable of Intel showed that 15th gen or so will contain Z790 releases for desktop. I wouldn't worry about the PCIE thing either, you only need one 5.0 slot for a card, as the 5.0 m.2's aren't much better besides for small random writes. You can get pretty much identical performance just running two cheaper 980 pros or similar in raid 0, and also not deal with the goofy heatsink or heat issues with 5.0 m.2's. All these processors are plenty of power for 5yrs, there won't be much of a point upgrading them sooner.
@@ronin2885 Intel if overall performance is the most important factor for you. AMD if the efficiency matters most to you. Both of those processors are very similar. I don't know how much you work with video, but Intel has the better quality encoding of the two.
@@boxlid214 tbh in laptops i always prefer AMD, cause in lsptop i think power efficiency is a more important factor than raw performance
I bought PC in 2016 with AMD Athlon X4 840, it has only 4 cores, and it is now running good for seven years. I play World of tanks, it works very well
So no one is talking about the wonderful shirt my man is wearing?
I'm the times, we have a two structures world....we have many pollutes due to your times
Do not forgett to buy a lawyer or fireman for Ryzen
Upvoted because of t-shirt.
I got a 13900k, but you better have one helluva AIO for this thing. It can get Toasty under load.
And 1000w PSU cause it consumes a generous amount of power.
you can always go with I3
Use one of those $10 chinese mounting brackets to replace the stock mounting bracket and Conductonaut liquid metal TIM. I'm not having any heat issues with that configuration. I am running my same old Heatkiller water block with the new heavy 13th gen backplate instead of an AIO though.
Intel Anyday. Blindly go for it.
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Does either one lend itself better to wireless pcvr?
I see what you did in your shirt.
Continutul de pe acest canal cred ca ar prinde bine si in Romanica, e o sugestie!
Are, si e vastă
i'll take the 65w 7600 for $225
There is also a decline in personage in the 1st and 3rd worlds due to pollutes and GM grain issues
you should compare with ryzen 7000 series
13900KS and 7950X3D are the gaming processor kings even the 13900k and the 7950x don’t come close!
well actually the 13900k is right on the 7950x3ds ass thats with 4x less cache no 3d cache and it only has 6p cores the 7950x3d has 10p cores more and is really really really struggling thats the problem its not impressive with 10 cores more and quadruple the cache with much much faster cache it just cant run away its struggling against something it should breeze past
0 iq
Calling ADL and RPL "10nm" is one of my biggest petpeaves
Intel 7 (10nm) is almost same density as the other foundries's 7nm
Using 13500, it is really great
Best explanation I've seen
Which is best for long term Intel vs amd
@jonathan nuss no intel. AMD SUCKS. 7000 series burned motherboard and cpu and their rma is terrible and slow giving mixed answers for the solutions
Clear Intel!
@_term_ on 5000 series high rate failure, on 3000 series USB etc. thats not cool man. i cant videos,from Intel with same issues where a cpu died
i have an intel i5 4460 for 10 years, and it didn't show any problems
Mejor intel es mas monstruoso que menos amd feo
no se te entiende nada capo, y para gaming es mejor amd, y si decis que el cpu de amd es feo, literalmente no se ve el cpu jamas una vez esta en la motherboard
I love the way Intel have kept their CPU names simple for people to understand.
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Be careful how you express yourself, don't bite your lip. You'd better go back to the native language #romanian The english teck? Nop...Not fo you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Personaly I prefer amd cpu and gpu over my intel and nividia
may i know why?
@@s-tudio3360 i guess u may not 😅
i dont know about that man i9 13900k with 6 cores that actually do something against big 16 cores of the ryzen while the ryzen has quadruple cache and much much faster cache its really really really pathetic performance the ryzen should breeze past it instead its right behind the i9 that only has 6 cores
13900k has 8 P-cores, not 6, but yeah I like Intel's approach more. AMD seems to be in trouble, more than they're letting us on, because they're imitating Intel's design going forward with P and E cores lol. First leaked info about Intel's future releases was leaked and they seem to be making huge gains in efficiency, same P and E core setup. AMD might have some issues since they're switching over to Intel's approach, that's the risk with AM5 that nobody's talking about. Having that socket around to '25 sounds great, but that's IF their big-little core approach doesn't flop. The Intel timetable also showed more releases for Z790, so it's not quite dead like everyone thought, 15th gen might give it some crazy good processors.
@@boxlid214 yeah i mistook i5s p cores with i9 yeah it has 8 p cores im thinking in the scale of things the i9 has slower cores speeds slower cache and about 90mbs less cache just watched LTT's vid on it the ryzen 7950x3d is kind of a flop bad drivers crashing still losing to the i9 i mean the 7950x3d should breeze past but its struggling history repeats itself AMD gets or tries to get to the top fails ends up at the bottom again with a bad name they should slow down and stop releasing badly designed cpus i dont want to buy 2 cpus just so one can be used to update the bios lets hope intel comes out with good cpus i mean they always do you cant exactly say none of them are bad worse than others yeah but far from what these new ryzen cpus are like
I like INTEL 。。。and I also like AMD
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Intel has a bad history of reusing the same socket over and over calling it new.
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i buy Intel because i know it works currently pumping a 13600K 🩵 its great since 8 months