I find much sympathy with this comment I found in response to a video re Vigano's plight: 'I will never forget that Vigano defended me and millions of other un jabbed people when the entire Catholic church threw us under the bus. I will defend the one voice that spoke out for us and if he's excommunicated, then I guess I am too. The Lord will provide. God bless this courageous man!'
My flatmate who is Indian and on as study visa got voting card. Fortunately he is Catholic and voted Reform. My worry how many other foreign residents got the illegal right to vote?
He shouldn't have voted at all and frankly that is breaking the law. Why would he take that chance. Because it isn't taking a chance. No one will care.
@@christinereich6050I refer you to 'Interpreting Tradition's video on who is able to vote in tbe UK. The list will astonish you and is longer than both your arms.
It is perfectly legal for Commonwealth members here on a visa have the right to vote. It’s another one of the many many things the Tories did not put right in their 14 years in power. What do you think Labour will do about it?
If so the Tories did nothing to stop it. The last and most enduring failure of the Tory governments from 2010-2024 is to leave the country to a Starmer government.
Yes, you are correct. Worse though is that certain Conservative MPs who lost their seats had the nerve to warn the Party not to be tempted to veer to the Right i.e not to be truly Conservative. Unbelievable!
Exactly. They’re the same. Tories are the ones responsible for pushing the rainbow agenda in schools, furthering so called diversity positive discrimination laws and removing parents rights in July 2020 to prevent their children being indoctrinated against Christian morality in schools. Labour will only make things worse. They will now impose further hard left policies and bring the UK to its knees.
I liked Catherine’s comments on the ballooning welfare state and immigration, Labour wants to keep their army of “Useful Idiots” ever growing and on side.
@@annemorton4731 Good question; all aspects need to be considered. The main focus should be on large segments of population taking public benefits. It is not reasonable that people who are dependent on the public purse should have a say on how funds are disbursed-that leads to corruption on both sides. Of course, if (when) we peel back the welfare state and return to private charities then suffrage would not be a factor.
Starmer is worrying because he, like Sunak, is an uber liberal atheist, not a communist. The Labour party and the tories are just 2 sides of the same liberal coin. The number of people who voted for Reform is a clear indication of how much a postliberal voting option is needed. You should see this as Catholics.
Who precisely do you think will run that Big State? The rich who fund that State will. The State knows who funds it and will become your daddy as you will be a dependent.
Has nobody seen the blasphemous statue of our Lady in Linz Cathederal ??? Reparations need to be done why is nobody reporting on it except Taylor Marshall and Return to Tradition!!!
Hi thank you . I did go back and look at that video but am disappointed by the flippant manner the statue was briefly discussed. The statue shows Our lady giving birth...naked from the waist down obviously and in labour pains...again blasphemous (as our Lady was not subject to labour pains by a singular grace,) the diocese is now looking for the individual who thankfully did the right thing by decapitating the statue. The diocese is looking at fixing the sculpture and keeping it on display.. none of this was discussed or that reparations suggested for this abomination. You have the platform to reach a lot of people. This should have been suggested. 😢
That at least would be rational if largely immoral .. from a Catholic point of view. Sir Kier Starmer, though a (former) Trotskyite .. by way of taste, is not a Marxist - a statist allegedly working for disenfranchised victims (the 'Workers'); he is a Socialistic Technocrat - a party-ist religiously working for the public service franchise (a policing 'person') - with an agenda. In Catholic terms he is a Bergoglian (in Peronist mood) not a Marxist (in German Synodal Path contrivances); he - and 'his' government (actually it is still His Majesty's Government, until further constitutional changes are arranged or wangled) - might not use 'go-make-a-mess' as the key management style, 'do-what-you-are-told' (and smile while you're at it) seems to be the more likely (if casually unspoken) management mantra. Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o)
Voting Reform UK was our last chance to politically counter both Woke-ism and radical Islamist ideology. British voters have made a huge mistake. Both Britain and the Christian Church will now have to face the consequences of that.
@@Denis.Collins It was during a Conservative government that uncontrolled mass (illegal) immigration and the blatant rise of unchecked radical Islamism took place. Voting Conservative could only mean more of the same. It was Reform UK or bust. Britain went bust.
@@Denis.Collins Illegal mass economic immigration and unchecked radical Islamism both happened under a Conservative government. Voting Conservative only meant more of the same. It was Reform UK or bust. Britain went bust.
Katherine spot on with Catholic Social Teaching as the founding principle of a new political party in Britain (although it wouldn't be supported by Nigel Farage as he would see it as 'religion in politics')
Same thing happened in Canada in 2020. Trudeau received the lowest number of votes for any prime minister in Canadian history. About 2/3 of people voted against him. However, he clung to power by forming a coalition with another extremist left party (NDP) and then tyrannically ruled as if he had earned a massive majority mandate. It seems to be a trend in "democratic" western countries that the people are at the mercy of people they don't want and don't ever vote for.
Plaid Cymru only stood in Wales winning 4 seats - this was only 0.7% of the UK total but was 14.8% of the vote in Wales. A similar thing occurred in Northern Ireland , where Sinn Fein won 7 seats again with 0.7% of the total UK vote. Comparing these regional parties with UK wide parties gives a skewed picture.
The NHS or similar system is a great and needed aid to people's lives, along with public (Council) housing, and care for the poor and disadvantaged. However, the NHS decline started with Thatcher, and her "General Management" system (et al); layers of needless managers flooding the bureaucratic process; as an example, I needed to attend an appointment at the local dental hospital, which had no direct communication between patient and booking staff, all done by, "leave a message and we'll get back to you", on subsequent enquiry I found out they had THREE booking MANAGERS plus booking staff? Blair promised, but didn't deliver improvement, it got worse (Internal Market reform?, Private Finance Initiative, etc..) Cultural, Spiritual, Ethical, Moral, Societal and every other "al" is at an all time low. I'm glad I'm on the latter part of the life curve and not at the beginning.
Whilst I think it is too late for the Conservative & Unionist Party (Tories) to undertake such an exercise (I think they are consigned to history: as was the intention of Johnson and Sunak) it would do their surviving MPs and Party Members a lot of good to read some of the writings of that greatest of 'conservative' philosophers, the late Sir Roger Scruton. It is a philosophical basis for their politics, which the Tories lack: and they tend not to undertake much reading ("far too busy for that"). Johnny Mercer, late of the parish of Plymouth, was one of the 'gang of four' tories who attacked Sir Roger, without having read anything by him, following a scurrilous article in the Labour rag, 'THE NEW STATESMAN': so it is fitting Mercer lost the seat. If they lack the willingness to read anything conservatively 'British', then Tory MPs and members might like to listen to the music of Ralph Vaughan Williams (especially his folksongs, hymns, Symphonies and his opera, 'The Pilgrim';s Progress') in order to perceive that which they ought to 'conserve', which is of incalculable value. There has to be some way to get through to dim Tories what they are supposed to be about; doesn't there? But I think that role has now shifted to 'REFORM'; and this Party needs to work hard to consolidate what it has achieved over the past fortnight. Like Moses, Nigel Farage may not be able to "see the promised land": but thank goodness he is around at this time.
Great discussion. While I agree completely with Katherine that no NHS money should be spent on DEI managers or “woke” initiatives, do we know how much is wasted and whether it would make significant difference to medical care if it was diverted? I really have no idea of the amounts or the proportion of the budget. They claim they won’t touch the big 3 taxes, so doesn’t seem to leave a lot of economic wiggle room. This causes me to worry they will focus on constitutional changes and make more laws where courts end up deciding things rather than parliament. I voted for a candidate who assured me he would vote against euthanasia, more abortion and gender ideology, but he didn’t win and I fear we now cannot stem the tide of these ideologies being further propagated and even protected by legislation. On the positive side, the more the left and their ideas become “the establishment”, the more young people may start wanting to rebel and seeking out information from sources other than school. This is where influential figures like those Gavin mentioned can be very important. From what I can gather, a lot of “Gen Z” are starting to question what they’re having shoved at them by teachers and popular culture. Let’s not lose hope!
A definition of Marxist would be very useful as one group of people use the term intending to denigrate and another to approve. Neither seem to suggest any real connection with what he actually said, indeed what they actually mean is usually the anarchism which Marx condemned.
The USA has a First Past the Post as Britain does. As to the majority of the British public, they voted either Labour, Green, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru, or the Scottish National Party, so parties on the centre left. The Right are a minority, and now a divided majority.
The US has 1st past the post but 1) in the House if Representatives the term is only 2 years, 2) in the Senate the term is 6 years but 1/3 of the chamber is up for election every 2 years, and 3) the president is elected separately from Congress . So it’s impossible to get. 5 year supermajority. The UK system only works when there’s an actively involved monarch, and that hasn’t been the case since Victoria.
We went through the same thing in Aust backlash against the so called conservative party after Covid debacle and we have Labor not sure they will stay in power,hope your voting Reform strategy works out but you needed a clean out anyway and they needed a shake up.Blessings and keep praying for your nation🙏
Jesus was like the King - above politics. He only addressed the political situation in the Palestine of his day specifically on one occasion. “Render unto Caesar”. He made it clear that he had not come to restore the earthly Kingdom to Israel. He did comment once on unfair taxation - he said that it was wrong for the Jewish authorities to levy a “Temple Tax” on the Jewish people. Nevertheless, he did arrange for it to be paid, so as not to give offence. A wise Christian will, so far as is possible, avoid politics, in particular, Party Politics, which is, in its very nature, always divisive. I can remember, as a boy, hearing our (Irish) Parish Priest give as broad a hint as he could, from the pulpit, that good Catholics were expected to vote Labour, since it was the Party which helped the poor. His view was not quite in line with the teaching of the Church, which is that giving to help the poor should be spontaneous and driven by compassion, rather than something imposed upon us by the State, which deprives the giving of most of its merit, although, if we pay all of our taxes cheerfully, knowing that much of what we give is used to help the poor, this attitude can, of course, be meritorious. As to immigration, this country has been over run by wave, after wave, of immigrants. Where I live, the Romans were driven out by the Anglo Saxons, who were, in turn, driven out by the Danes. Most of the locals where I live are indistinguishable, physically, from modern Danes, however, they are loyal to England and not to Denmark. Over time, most immigrants have lost their original identity. There is nothing which we can really do to stop immigration. Of course, just as the pagan Danish invaders were converted and became good Christians, it would be nice to think that the current immigrants might become, if not Christian, then, at least, as is most of our society these days “post Christian” - that is to say, embracing much of what is good in the Faith, if denying Our Lord and Saviour as the origin of that in which they believe.
I understand 47% of Labour MPs took the oath of allegiance recently not on the Bible but by some other affirmation method. Obviously because they were of other faiths or none. The party is very anti catholic and our Bishops should be guiding their flock accordingly.
I wonder how much the NHS has spent on their Woke hospital signage. I fear a surgeon who is black and female, rightly or wrongly, because I wonder if they earned their job or were a DEI hire.
It's so fascinating to dig deeper into the recent supposed shifts to the "Labor Party" which is extremely deceptive, not as reflective of decline in conservative values in the least (particularly among the Muslim electorate)--- large part to shifting loyalties of citizens from the establishment in UK & even in France, it's not over complicated, but it's much more complicated that saying the entire electorate is actually liberal in their values - a majority of the electorate is probably much more conservative in values than they are being given credit for in the media, and it's actually much more, as said here, a repudiation of the UK Conservative leaders who betrayed the constituents by wading into weeds on deeply unpopular social issues to erode social fabric and cultural values and the conservative leaders essentially destroyed their own party by splitting the conservative vote-- so I think the results speak more to a rejection of the establishment parties in general and a cry for reform in the Conservative Party to bring people back home. The splitting of sympathies in Europe leads to a lot of chaos, it's probably a good thing in the short-term to prevent globalists from power, but I believe this could be to the benefit of local Muslim groups who seek to take advantage of the power vacuum over the coming years and reshape West with Sharia Law. The Left will split from them at some point in the near future, but there is little doubt, the shift to Muslim power will no longer require the crutch of the left labor party. That is when everything will be made known. That is the main concern.
Major voting day here in France tomorrow Sunday. Although J Bardella (so called hard right) did very well in the first round, it is unlikely now he will have a majority in the "Assemblée nationale" as a result of all kinds of shady agreements between Macron's mob, the traditional right wing (Sarkozy/ Chirac etc..) and the far left. The constituency system here allows that sort of thing, so all eyes on France tomorrow evening. MAJOR riots planned, even if the "far right" don't achieve a majority. Very bizarre political situation ahead for weeks, possibly months, coming up to the Olympics. Anyway, apparently the Seine will be clean enough for swimming, so at least we have our priorities right 😅 1.4 billion euros according to the Figaro to render this famous river fit for swimming, and some people refuse to see that the world is going totally bonkers 🤡
18:15 ‘A strong Conservative leader that the British people are crying out for’??? What people? We as a country get what we deserve when only 59% of the electorate turn out to vote. 41% can’t be bothered. Labour won 34% of that turnout, which equates to about just 20% of the entire population. 4 out of every 5 people of voting age did not vote for what we have got, an immovable Socialist government. Yet Kier thinks he’s won a countrywide mandate and already is talking and acting like a monarch. I think the British electorate get the governments they deserve because quite frankly they are politically naive and complacent, and as the Covid lockdowns clearly demonstrated, quite ready to do and believe what they are told. Cue Neo-Marxism and the Labour Party.
Sadly, Archbishop Vigano made a mistake when he said that Pope Francis was not a legitimate Pope. He was a breath of fresh air to reveal McCarrick's abuse. Now he has given the Vatican a reason to excommunicate him. Pope Francis, while not a good Pope, was duly elected as Bishop of Rome and a successor to Peter. We need to pray that Pope Francis and those with whom he has surrounded himself will be faithful to the Church's Apostolic Tradition and her traditional moral teaching.
when pope cam in and brough up Luther I knew he is not good, and Jesus said by their fruits you know them, and look fruits of Luther revolution and modernism, feminism and vatican2 , churches are empty young people lost
We have compulsory voting in Australia, and it is restricted to citizens. Every 4 years the Electoral commission rearranges the electoral boundaries to try and get an even number of communities ( booths) with a history of voting for each main party. I was shocked to see that in UK only 54% of people voted and 21000 votes or less were enough to win a seat. Our electorates have 150,000 voters each and gerrymandering is prevented by electoral redistribution. You must insist on proportional representation as a human voting right. Minority interests can be represented by minor parties and independents who give preferences to one main party or another. No way would we get five pro Gaza antisemitic radicals elected.
I mostly agree with Katherine on this topic of the State. But to get into the topic of the State and politics you really have to get into Church's teaching on the State and governance. The State is frequently described as a beast in Scripture and there are a lot of things pointing out that the beast can be tamed if it acknowledges God and is governed by His will. If not, it is like a beast and some beasts are more destructive than others. Nebuchadnezzar’s Humiliation in Daniel 4 is a great example of when a government refused to acknowledge God's role in its existence. The harlot of revelation 17/18 is another example when the government acts as if it who once was married yet now believes she sits as no widow and did it all on her own. This all of course comes to the final global beast that declares itself as God and demands worship.
This is an exact repeat from infamous Chretien years in Canada. The Reform Party split the vote on the right, resulting in victory after victory of Liberals for 10 or so years. Still the first past the post is the best electoral system. The proportional system almost always brings a minoryty government incapable of governing, because of reliance on coalition parties.
But the Tories are not Conservative. If they had got in again or even had a hung parliament the same left wing agenda would have continued as it has for the last 14 years.
1. There was an 18th century German artistic movement known as Sturm Und Drang, translated as "storm and stress," that gave rise to heightened emotional expression. 2. With the new Labor government, perhaps UK Catholics must be resigned to Starm Und Drung (drung described in the Dictionary of Newfoundland English as “a narrow lane or passage between houses, fenced gardens, etc.”) whereby the faithful must thread the needle between loyal citizenship and their being buffeted by a regime that appears to be hostile to their Christian values. 3. "Oh, Miss Bennett!" (exclaimed in the manner of Alison Steadman from the 1995 BBC1 production of Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice)
Gavin, why do you feel the necessity to remain silent? You are actually in the position to speak. Wasn’t that a major reason you chose not to become a Roman Catholic priest?
Yes, exactly -- Gavin very clearly stated at the beginning of his talk how much he values freedom of speech & conscience; but later, he ends on the note that he chooses to be a faithful Catholic who humbly submits in silence to whatever the Masonic Globalist Infiltrators dictate, and please don't expect to be "allowed" to remain in the church if you, God forbid, call Fwansis "BerGOGlio". Oh dear! And how on earth will Holy Mother Catholic Church ever be saved by the laiety (prophecy) if they are in full compliance with the Ape's Sin -- Odd? 😂 Too many contradictions, unless you're just brainwashed into talking like PF, i.e. out of both sides of your mouth in a cheap word salad. Please forgive my rant, I love your discussions & find them very interesting. Like many Viganic trads, I choose to fight the lies & heresy oozing from the Vatican. Thanks for your patience!
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I think that Americans are well-versed in the idiosyncracies of the First-Past-the-Post system. To elect their President they use an Electoral College. It is quite possible, as in 2020, to get a majority of the popular vote but not a majority of the votes in the Electoral College. That's why there is little point in Republicans campaigning hard in strongly Democrat states or Democrats campaigning hard in strongly Republican states. The main effort goes into the key swing states such as Pennsylvania. On a wider point, do you keep on having to explain British things to American viewers? Americans don't explain American things to British viewers on their UA-cam channels.
No offense intended, but do you know why the Electoral College was created in the first place? If I am not mistaken, it was not states' rights but to give monied (propertied) interests an upper hand over the vulnerability of a democracy to become a mobocracy, e.g. Shay's Rebellion. How many Americans know that? Something omitted in history books? There were no political parties when the U.S. Constitution was written. After parties rose, the Constitution had to be amended on how president were to be elected.
I really wish you guys had kept your political views to yourselves. I can't see myself signing up to a membership anytime soon to listen to Gavin and Katherine chewing the fat about the daily news if this is anything to go by. But since you've put your views out there, here are mine. Reform UK has committed an act of political vandalism in splitting the Conservative vote while winning only 5 seats in Parliament. This was inevitable. Mark, when you voted for Reform did you not see that you were handing a vote to Labour, and thereby contributing to the enormous majority that Labour now has in Parliament? For the next 5 years the Starmer government has the votes to push through any lefty/woke policy that it wants, and nobody can stop it. Gavin, I'm gobsmacked at your political naivety, and disturbed by your keenness to see the destruction of the Conservative Party. At a personal level, I've lost the support of an amazing constituency MP who many years ago helped me and my wife with a matter regarding home education (incidentally, Labour is no friend of HE). Through the help we received we, like many others who had also been helped, became volunteers. We saw at close quarters the assistance given by a dedicated MP and his team to all those, regardless of political affiliation, who asked for help. Had the Reform candidate not taken over 6000 votes, I would still enjoy the support of a truly gifted MP. If ever there was a perfect example of throwing the baby out with the bath water, voting Reform was it.
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I find much sympathy with this comment I found in response to a video re Vigano's plight: 'I will never forget that Vigano defended me and millions of other un jabbed people when the entire Catholic church threw us under the bus. I will defend the one voice that spoke out for us and if he's excommunicated, then I guess I am too. The Lord will provide. God bless this courageous man!'
My flatmate who is Indian and on as study visa got voting card. Fortunately he is Catholic and voted Reform. My worry how many other foreign residents got the illegal right to vote?
😳 That is absolutely mad.
He shouldn't have voted at all and frankly that is breaking the law. Why would he take that chance. Because it isn't taking a chance. No one will care.
@@michaelhall5794 Commonwealth and Irish citizens living in the UK have the right to vote in British elections. He committed more crime.
@@christinereich6050I refer you to 'Interpreting Tradition's video on who is able to vote in tbe UK. The list will astonish you and is longer than both your arms.
It is perfectly legal for Commonwealth members here on a visa have the right to vote. It’s another one of the many many things the Tories did not put right in their 14 years in power.
What do you think Labour will do about it?
Pray for families!
Catherine is right. Well said, Catherine. Many who voted Labour just dont see the full consequences of Labour’s plans.
Some people need to learn the hard way. Trust the process, count our blessings that we’re not in as bad a state as France and, pray 🙏
If so the Tories did nothing to stop it. The last and most enduring failure of the Tory governments from 2010-2024 is to leave the country to a Starmer government.
Yes, you are correct. Worse though is that certain Conservative MPs who lost their seats had the nerve to warn the Party not to be tempted to veer to the Right i.e not to be truly Conservative. Unbelievable!
Exactly. They’re the same. Tories are the ones responsible for pushing the rainbow agenda in schools, furthering so called diversity positive discrimination laws and removing parents rights in July 2020 to prevent their children being indoctrinated against Christian morality in schools. Labour will only make things worse. They will now impose further hard left policies and bring the UK to its knees.
Much is being exposed that has needed to be exposed. Stay in the Truth, and the Truth will set you free!
I liked Catherine’s comments on the ballooning welfare state and immigration, Labour wants to keep their army of “Useful Idiots” ever growing and on side.
People who remain on public benefits should not have the vote. This is one way to stop parties from pandering to that constituency.
Would that include those on disability, and pension credits?
@@annemorton4731 Good question; all aspects need to be considered. The main focus should be on large segments of population taking public benefits. It is not reasonable that people who are dependent on the public purse should have a say on how funds are disbursed-that leads to corruption on both sides.
Of course, if (when) we peel back the welfare state and return to private charities then suffrage would not be a factor.
Starmer is worrying because he, like Sunak, is an uber liberal atheist, not a communist. The Labour party and the tories are just 2 sides of the same liberal coin. The number of people who voted for Reform is a clear indication of how much a postliberal voting option is needed. You should see this as Catholics.
As long as society is dominated by Big Rich, we'll need a Big State.
Your conclusion does not follow from your premise.
Who precisely do you think will run that Big State? The rich who fund that State will. The State knows who funds it and will become your daddy as you will be a dependent.
Catherine makes some great comments about the welfare state.
Has nobody seen the blasphemous statue of our Lady in Linz Cathederal ??? Reparations need to be done why is nobody reporting on it except Taylor Marshall and Return to Tradition!!!
Hi Jane. Yes we did discuss it in a previous episode. I think it was the one on Cardinal Zen and Lofton
Hi thank you . I did go back and look at that video but am disappointed by the flippant manner the statue was briefly discussed. The statue shows Our lady giving birth...naked from the waist down obviously and in labour pains...again blasphemous (as our Lady was not subject to labour pains by a singular grace,) the diocese is now looking for the individual who thankfully did the right thing by decapitating the statue. The diocese is looking at fixing the sculpture and keeping it on display.. none of this was discussed or that reparations suggested for this abomination. You have the platform to reach a lot of people. This should have been suggested. 😢
Thank you Jane. We will revisit this 🙏
That at least would be rational if largely immoral .. from a Catholic point of view. Sir Kier Starmer, though a (former) Trotskyite .. by way of taste, is not a Marxist - a statist allegedly working for disenfranchised victims (the 'Workers'); he is a Socialistic Technocrat - a party-ist religiously working for the public service franchise (a policing 'person') - with an agenda. In Catholic terms he is a Bergoglian (in Peronist mood) not a Marxist (in German Synodal Path contrivances); he - and 'his' government (actually it is still His Majesty's Government, until further constitutional changes are arranged or wangled) - might not use 'go-make-a-mess' as the key management style, 'do-what-you-are-told' (and smile while you're at it) seems to be the more likely (if casually unspoken) management mantra.
Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek.
God bless. ;o)
Voting Reform UK was our last chance to politically counter both Woke-ism and radical Islamist ideology. British voters have made a huge mistake. Both Britain and the Christian Church will now have to face the consequences of that.
@@Denis.Collins It was during a Conservative government that uncontrolled mass (illegal) immigration and the blatant rise of unchecked radical Islamism took place. Voting Conservative could only mean more of the same. It was Reform UK or bust. Britain went bust.
@@Denis.Collins Illegal mass economic immigration and unchecked radical Islamism both happened under a Conservative government. Voting Conservative only meant more of the same. It was Reform UK or bust. Britain went bust.
The mass immigration was legal, rightly or wrongly. @@stuartallen8684
@@Denis.Collins All the Tories has to do was cut immigration but instead they trippled it.
What, we should have voted reform so they could institute The Final Solution.
Would you suggest using British gas or the imported variety. Fool.
Katherine spot on with Catholic Social Teaching as the founding principle of a new political party in Britain (although it wouldn't be supported by Nigel Farage as he would see it as 'religion in politics')
Great show as usual! Just a little correction, Reform got 5 seats not 4.
Thanks for the clarification, and for watching
Same thing happened in Canada in 2020. Trudeau received the lowest number of votes for any prime minister in Canadian history. About 2/3 of people voted against him. However, he clung to power by forming a coalition with another extremist left party (NDP) and then tyrannically ruled as if he had earned a massive majority mandate. It seems to be a trend in "democratic" western countries that the people are at the mercy of people they don't want and don't ever vote for.
Plaid Cymru only stood in Wales winning 4 seats - this was only 0.7% of the UK total but was 14.8% of the vote in Wales. A similar thing occurred in Northern Ireland , where Sinn Fein won 7 seats again with 0.7% of the total UK vote. Comparing these regional parties with UK wide parties gives a skewed picture.
As Archbishop Vigano is holding fast to the One True Faith he is in the saintly position of being "excommunicated" by one who commits heresy.
Agree. But who is this Vi-GAH-no Mark is talking about, between swigs of lager?
Other catholic sites suggest that popes who are in a state of manifest heresy have lost the primacy of the Catholic church
The NHS or similar system is a great and needed aid to people's lives, along with public (Council) housing, and care for the poor and disadvantaged. However, the NHS decline started with Thatcher, and her "General Management" system (et al); layers of needless managers flooding the bureaucratic process; as an example, I needed to attend an appointment at the local dental hospital, which had no direct communication between patient and booking staff, all done by, "leave a message and we'll get back to you", on subsequent enquiry I found out they had THREE booking MANAGERS plus booking staff? Blair promised, but didn't deliver improvement, it got worse (Internal Market reform?, Private Finance Initiative, etc..) Cultural, Spiritual, Ethical, Moral, Societal and every other "al" is at an all time low. I'm glad I'm on the latter part of the life curve and not at the beginning.
Whilst I think it is too late for the Conservative & Unionist Party (Tories) to undertake such an exercise (I think they are consigned to history: as was the intention of Johnson and Sunak) it would do their surviving MPs and Party Members a lot of good to read some of the writings of that greatest of 'conservative' philosophers, the late Sir Roger Scruton. It is a philosophical basis for their politics, which the Tories lack: and they tend not to undertake much reading ("far too busy for that"). Johnny Mercer, late of the parish of Plymouth, was one of the 'gang of four' tories who attacked Sir Roger, without having read anything by him, following a scurrilous article in the Labour rag, 'THE NEW STATESMAN': so it is fitting Mercer lost the seat. If they lack the willingness to read anything conservatively 'British', then Tory MPs and members might like to listen to the music of Ralph Vaughan Williams (especially his folksongs, hymns, Symphonies and his opera, 'The Pilgrim';s Progress') in order to perceive that which they ought to 'conserve', which is of incalculable value. There has to be some way to get through to dim Tories what they are supposed to be about; doesn't there? But I think that role has now shifted to 'REFORM'; and this Party needs to work hard to consolidate what it has achieved over the past fortnight. Like Moses, Nigel Farage may not be able to "see the promised land": but thank goodness he is around at this time.
Great discussion. While I agree completely with Katherine that no NHS money should be spent on DEI managers or “woke” initiatives, do we know how much is wasted and whether it would make significant difference to medical care if it was diverted? I really have no idea of the amounts or the proportion of the budget.
They claim they won’t touch the big 3 taxes, so doesn’t seem to leave a lot of economic wiggle room. This causes me to worry they will focus on constitutional changes and make more laws where courts end up deciding things rather than parliament.
I voted for a candidate who assured me he would vote against euthanasia, more abortion and gender ideology, but he didn’t win and I fear we now cannot stem the tide of these ideologies being further propagated and even protected by legislation.
On the positive side, the more the left and their ideas become “the establishment”, the more young people may start wanting to rebel and seeking out information from sources other than school. This is where influential figures like those Gavin mentioned can be very important. From what I can gather, a lot of “Gen Z” are starting to question what they’re having shoved at them by teachers and popular culture. Let’s not lose hope!
A definition of Marxist would be very useful as one group of people use the term intending to denigrate and another to approve. Neither seem to suggest any real connection with what he actually said, indeed what they actually mean is usually the anarchism which Marx condemned.
Look no further than the recent discussion of Satanism and Marx with Jordan Peterson, who interviews an author who is an expert on Marx ideology.
Perhaps what is really to fear is the Marxist Leninism of the Russian Bolsheviks?
The USA has a First Past the Post as Britain does.
As to the majority of the British public, they voted either Labour, Green, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru, or the Scottish National Party, so parties on the centre left.
The Right are a minority, and now a divided majority.
In scotland we had 2 Christian parties
The Scottish family party and the heritage party . We were lucky to have one in our constituency
The US also have the collegiate votes so it's not purely the people's votes
@@jenyoung2473 O was referring to voting for Congress.
The US has 1st past the post but 1) in the House if Representatives the term is only 2 years, 2) in the Senate the term is 6 years but 1/3 of the chamber is up for election every 2 years, and 3) the president is elected separately from Congress . So it’s impossible to get. 5 year supermajority.
The UK system only works when there’s an actively involved monarch, and that hasn’t been the case since Victoria.
The Immigration situation will be no longer an issue in 5 years time, our emigration will be.
We went through the same thing in Aust backlash against the so called conservative party after Covid debacle and we have Labor not sure they will stay in power,hope your voting Reform strategy works out but you needed a clean out anyway and they needed a shake up.Blessings and keep praying for your nation🙏
Requesting the release and publication of the Gagnon Report in the interest of diversity, inclusion and equity? Illumination
Jesus was like the King - above politics. He only addressed the political situation in the Palestine of his day specifically on one occasion. “Render unto Caesar”. He made it clear that he had not come to restore the earthly Kingdom to Israel. He did comment once on unfair taxation - he said that it was wrong for the Jewish authorities to levy a “Temple Tax” on the Jewish people. Nevertheless, he did arrange for it to be paid, so as not to give offence. A wise Christian will, so far as is possible, avoid politics, in particular, Party Politics, which is, in its very nature, always divisive. I can remember, as a boy, hearing our (Irish) Parish Priest give as broad a hint as he could, from the pulpit, that good Catholics were expected to vote Labour, since it was the Party which helped the poor. His view was not quite in line with the teaching of the Church, which is that giving to help the poor should be spontaneous and driven by compassion, rather than something imposed upon us by the State, which deprives the giving of most of its merit, although, if we pay all of our taxes cheerfully, knowing that much of what we give is used to help the poor, this attitude can, of course, be meritorious. As to immigration, this country has been over run by wave, after wave, of immigrants. Where I live, the Romans were driven out by the Anglo Saxons, who were, in turn, driven out by the Danes. Most of the locals where I live are indistinguishable, physically, from modern Danes, however, they are loyal to England and not to Denmark. Over time, most immigrants have lost their original identity. There is nothing which we can really do to stop immigration. Of course, just as the pagan Danish invaders were converted and became good Christians, it would be nice to think that the current immigrants might become, if not Christian, then, at least, as is most of our society these days “post Christian” - that is to say, embracing much of what is good in the Faith, if denying Our Lord and Saviour as the origin of that in which they believe.
I understand 47% of Labour MPs took the oath of allegiance recently not on the Bible but by some other affirmation method. Obviously because they were of other faiths or none. The party is very anti catholic and our Bishops should be guiding their flock accordingly.
I wonder how much the NHS has spent on their Woke hospital signage. I fear a surgeon who is black and female, rightly or wrongly, because I wonder if they earned their job or were a DEI hire.
Good morning from Fort Worth, Texas!
Good morning Nancy, and welcome 🙏
It's so fascinating to dig deeper into the recent supposed shifts to the "Labor Party" which is extremely deceptive, not as reflective of decline in conservative values in the least (particularly among the Muslim electorate)--- large part to shifting loyalties of citizens from the establishment in UK & even in France, it's not over complicated, but it's much more complicated that saying the entire electorate is actually liberal in their values - a majority of the electorate is probably much more conservative in values than they are being given credit for in the media, and it's actually much more, as said here, a repudiation of the UK Conservative leaders who betrayed the constituents by wading into weeds on deeply unpopular social issues to erode social fabric and cultural values and the conservative leaders essentially destroyed their own party by splitting the conservative vote-- so I think the results speak more to a rejection of the establishment parties in general and a cry for reform in the Conservative Party to bring people back home. The splitting of sympathies in Europe leads to a lot of chaos, it's probably a good thing in the short-term to prevent globalists from power, but I believe this could be to the benefit of local Muslim groups who seek to take advantage of the power vacuum over the coming years and reshape West with Sharia Law. The Left will split from them at some point in the near future, but there is little doubt, the shift to Muslim power will no longer require the crutch of the left labor party. That is when everything will be made known. That is the main concern.
and pope is cancelling everyone who speaking up how that can be right?
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Major voting day here in France tomorrow Sunday. Although J Bardella (so called hard right) did very well in the first round, it is unlikely now he will have a majority in the "Assemblée nationale" as a result of all kinds of shady agreements between Macron's mob, the traditional right wing (Sarkozy/ Chirac etc..) and the far left. The constituency system here allows that sort of thing, so all eyes on France tomorrow evening. MAJOR riots planned, even if the "far right" don't achieve a majority. Very bizarre political situation ahead for weeks, possibly months, coming up to the Olympics. Anyway, apparently the Seine will be clean enough for swimming, so at least we have our priorities right 😅 1.4 billion euros according to the Figaro to render this famous river fit for swimming, and some people refuse to see that the world is going totally bonkers 🤡
18:15 ‘A strong Conservative leader that the British people are crying out for’???
What people? We as a country get what we deserve when only 59% of the electorate turn out to vote. 41% can’t be bothered. Labour won 34% of that turnout, which equates to about just 20% of the entire population. 4 out of every 5 people of voting age did not vote for what we have got, an immovable Socialist government. Yet Kier thinks he’s won a countrywide mandate and already is talking and acting like a monarch.
I think the British electorate get the governments they deserve because quite frankly they are politically naive and complacent, and as the Covid lockdowns clearly demonstrated, quite ready to do and believe what they are told. Cue Neo-Marxism and the Labour Party.
Sadly, Archbishop Vigano made a mistake when he said that Pope Francis was not a legitimate Pope. He was a breath of fresh air to reveal McCarrick's abuse. Now he has given the Vatican a reason to excommunicate him. Pope Francis, while not a good Pope, was duly elected as Bishop of Rome and a successor to Peter. We need to pray that Pope Francis and those with whom he has surrounded himself will be faithful to the Church's Apostolic Tradition and her traditional moral teaching.
We have first-past-the-post in Canada too. Thanks for your discussion on the UK election.
Answer to the question in your title: YES.
A tragedy😔😔😔
when pope cam in and brough up Luther I knew he is not good, and Jesus said by their fruits you know them, and look fruits of Luther revolution and modernism, feminism and vatican2 , churches are empty young people lost
Well said Mark
We have compulsory voting in Australia, and it is restricted to citizens. Every 4 years the Electoral commission rearranges the electoral boundaries to try and get an even number of communities ( booths) with a history of voting for each main party. I was shocked to see that in UK only 54% of people voted and 21000 votes or less were enough to win a seat. Our electorates have 150,000 voters each and gerrymandering is prevented by electoral redistribution.
You must insist on proportional representation as a human voting right. Minority interests can be represented by minor parties and independents who give preferences to one main party or another. No way would we get five pro Gaza antisemitic radicals elected.
Gavin, Job 12 12 is what I think of when you speak. Also JOB 32, 7,8.
I mostly agree with Katherine on this topic of the State. But to get into the topic of the State and politics you really have to get into Church's teaching on the State and governance. The State is frequently described as a beast in Scripture and there are a lot of things pointing out that the beast can be tamed if it acknowledges God and is governed by His will. If not, it is like a beast and some beasts are more destructive than others. Nebuchadnezzar’s Humiliation in Daniel 4 is a great example of when a government refused to acknowledge God's role in its existence. The harlot of revelation 17/18 is another example when the government acts as if it who once was married yet now believes she sits as no widow and did it all on her own. This all of course comes to the final global beast that declares itself as God and demands worship.
This is an exact repeat from infamous Chretien years in Canada. The Reform Party split the vote on the right, resulting in victory after victory of Liberals for 10 or so years. Still the first past the post is the best electoral system. The proportional system almost always brings a minoryty government incapable of governing, because of reliance on coalition parties.
But the Tories are not Conservative. If they had got in again or even had a hung parliament the same left wing agenda would have continued as it has for the last 14 years.
don't understand how no one is to speak up what pope is doing??
1. There was an 18th century German artistic movement known as Sturm Und Drang, translated as "storm and stress," that gave rise to heightened emotional expression.
2. With the new Labor government, perhaps UK Catholics must be resigned to Starm Und Drung (drung described in the Dictionary of Newfoundland English as “a narrow lane or passage between houses, fenced gardens, etc.”) whereby the faithful must thread the needle between loyal citizenship and their being buffeted by a regime that appears to be hostile to their Christian values.
3. "Oh, Miss Bennett!" (exclaimed in the manner of Alison Steadman from the 1995 BBC1 production of Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice)
Well, I suppose that “Sturm und Drang” is better than “Blut und Eisen”.
@@Mark3ABE Yes, and perhaps also better than Glut Und Essen.
Five Reform MPs
welcome to Canada!!!
"Miss Marilyns, Wheel U can win a price on miss Marilyns wheel".........can I win a Gold Class - please!
So sorry..I'll pray for you. They're the enemies of humanity.
Why are they in the wrong order? It’s supposed to be Gavin, Mrs Bennet, Mark.
Oh, you mean like the average Catholic Church, where everyone always sits in the same pew?
Gavin, why do you feel the necessity to remain silent? You are actually in the position to speak. Wasn’t that a major reason you chose not to become a Roman Catholic priest?
He is speaking? Not sure I understand the point??
@@marklambert5232 Mark check out the discussion around 27:56
Yes, exactly -- Gavin very clearly stated at the beginning of his talk how much he values freedom of speech & conscience; but later, he ends on the note that he chooses to be a faithful Catholic who humbly submits in silence to whatever the Masonic Globalist Infiltrators dictate, and please don't expect to be "allowed" to remain in the church if you, God forbid, call Fwansis "BerGOGlio". Oh dear! And how on earth will Holy Mother Catholic Church ever be saved by the laiety (prophecy) if they are in full compliance with the Ape's Sin -- Odd? 😂 Too many contradictions, unless you're just brainwashed into talking like PF, i.e. out of both sides of your mouth in a cheap word salad. Please forgive my rant, I love your discussions & find them very interesting. Like many Viganic trads, I choose to fight the lies & heresy oozing from the Vatican. Thanks for your patience!
@@andrewvavuris8789-- I noticed exactly what you are mentioning here.
Does England's democratic socialism help explain a Marxist takeover?
6 sets of adverts in a half hour segment makes difficult listening if you are trying to to do other things
Sorry to hear that Jen. The adverts are not within our control. It’s down to UA-cam. I think you can sign up to UA-cam premium and you don’t get them anymore.
Why don't you download an ad blocker extension?. I use one all the time and never see any ads. UA-cam would be impossible for me to watch without one.
I didn't notice any adverts, maybe just one.
I think that Americans are well-versed in the idiosyncracies of the First-Past-the-Post system. To elect their President they use an Electoral College. It is quite possible, as in 2020, to get a majority of the popular vote but not a majority of the votes in the Electoral College. That's why there is little point in Republicans campaigning hard in strongly Democrat states or Democrats campaigning hard in strongly Republican states. The main effort goes into the key swing states such as Pennsylvania. On a wider point, do you keep on having to explain British things to American viewers? Americans don't explain American things to British viewers on their UA-cam channels.
Yes, but we are British, and therefore far more courteous
No offense intended, but do you know why the Electoral College was created in the first place? If I am not mistaken, it was not states' rights but to give monied (propertied) interests an upper hand over the vulnerability of a democracy to become a mobocracy, e.g. Shay's Rebellion. How many Americans know that? Something omitted in history books? There were no political parties when the U.S. Constitution was written. After parties rose, the Constitution had to be amended on how president were to be elected.
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Marxist? I wish labour were marxist. Now they are on the positions tories had before brexit. Political sceen had moved so far right...
Stay away from polemics!!! Stay on matters pf faith
These are matters of faith!!
Politics through a Christian lens is essential. If Christianity doesn't reveal truth and hypocrisy in public life, what could or should.
I'm amazed you dont collapse under the weight of your own hypocrisy
Yet here we still are.
I really wish you guys had kept your political views to yourselves. I can't see myself signing up to a membership anytime soon to listen to Gavin and Katherine chewing the fat about the daily news if this is anything to go by. But since you've put your views out there, here are mine.
Reform UK has committed an act of political vandalism in splitting the Conservative vote while winning only 5 seats in Parliament. This was inevitable. Mark, when you voted for Reform did you not see that you were handing a vote to Labour, and thereby contributing to the enormous majority that Labour now has in Parliament? For the next 5 years the Starmer government has the votes to push through any lefty/woke policy that it wants, and nobody can stop it. Gavin, I'm gobsmacked at your political naivety, and disturbed by your keenness to see the destruction of the Conservative Party.
At a personal level, I've lost the support of an amazing constituency MP who many years ago helped me and my wife with a matter regarding home education (incidentally, Labour is no friend of HE). Through the help we received we, like many others who had also been helped, became volunteers. We saw at close quarters the assistance given by a dedicated MP and his team to all those, regardless of political affiliation, who asked for help. Had the Reform candidate not taken over 6000 votes, I would still enjoy the support of a truly gifted MP.
If ever there was a perfect example of throwing the baby out with the bath water, voting Reform was it.
Yes we understand and you are completely entitled to your opinion!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. We hope that you recognise that this is a significant, long awaited event dominating the news. The programme that Gavin and Katherine do for members is an exploration of news through a Catholic lens. Most days involve commentary about small stories that they have found that day. Nobody is obligated to become a member, but for those who would like to, it is available. Thank you for watching anyway.
Life is too short to spend each day watching a seemingly endless stream of UA-cam videos!
@@catholicunscriptedWhen did obliged become obligated?!
@@edwardbell9795 comments man on UA-cam video 😂😂
What utter rubbish!