We flew into London on the 9th for an ARC meeting and we went to Tommy’s meeting as well. We won’t be there on July 27. That day is my dad’s celebration of life in Canada. The next episode of Tommy’s interview is planned for July 28. We pray that July 27 Tommy Robinson patriotic gathering will bring the British culture together in renewed courage to uphold British values
Thank you for that podcast you did with Tommy. I've known him (mostly remotely) since 2010 right back at the beginning of the EDL though we have met a couple of times, touring here in Israel with him and his friends and the UK. Yours was definitely one of the best explorations of who he is I've seen out of many many appearances.
… I watched your interview last night and it’s changed my life too … this morning the news (hidden quietly) is that Keir Starmer is releasing prisoners early … one (huh, well the only 1 being admitted at this point) of them a convicted rapist and the LEADER of a grooming gang … things are very rotten in the state of Britain!
@@TammyPetersonPodcast Tammy, I found the Tommy Robinson interview so interesting. Especially with your experience through the rosary, I hope he finds that devotion (I especially thought of it when he talked about being in solitary confinement). I also hope that the people coming from a more secular or non-Christian background realize that what made/makes "Western civilization" special is its roots in Catholicism. Conversion will ultimately be what saves society.
I was raped by a group of Pakistani men nearly 50 years ago. I know that they raped at least 2 other women, but in the 1970s few women came forward to report rape, so there may have been more. I thought that it was a sort of one off - that they just happened to be Pakistani men. It was not until heard about The Grooming Gangs that I realised this is a cultural issue. However, my real anger is reserved for those who covered this up for years. We have sacrificed thousands of children on the altar of Wokeness - and the fear of being seen as 'Islamophobic'. I am really moved by Tommy Robinson's courage and tenacity - Wokeness is a powerful ideology and one of its main weapons is to cancel people. He has been like a modern day Gideon figure.
So sorry for what happened to. This will be our biggest shame as a country, turning the other way to child rape. It's so shocking. All that was aware should be in jail.
I am sorry to hear that and pray for you and their sincere repentance. What is really needed is their conversion as that is likely the only thing that will stop this from happening. The men in these cultures to find Jesus and see how this is destroying our humanity is needed. I have a family member who had something similar (different US cultural problem) and am amazed at her strength of heart to forgive and move on. Hopefully, more will be done to prevent these things from happening. God bless you.
I watched the whole Peterson interview of Tommy Robinson staying up late into the night fearing that the video would be deleted. Tommy is absolutely a Christian in a deeper way than many who profess to be Christian. He has gone way beyond talking the talk to actually walking the walk. He is a hero and I’m sure God would address him as “my good and faithful servant”. I pray for Tommy who has laid everything on the line to save others!❤️💕❤️
He is Stephen yaxley Lennon bit Tommy. He changed his name to look more English He was paid to make anybody criticizing Islam look like a yob. This was then used to silence everybody for 15 years. The little England TV brainwashed masses fell for it. Ask why he never critisises the real people who organized the mass Islamic invasion. Those pay him True traitor.
Yes I see the suffering of Christ in Tommy. And also the disciples who were not all educated men either but loved Jesus. I’ve been following him for some time now and praying for him.
Tony Blairs Labour government abolished the old Christian blasphemy act, now the Labour party are talking about bringing in Islamic blasphemy laws. What are we becoming?
he was cancelled because f his class - he doesn't fit in with the news readers or politicians - even on this video - the people we all listen too are cut from a certain cloth - a cloth we have been lead to believe holds truth - it couldn't be further from the truth - its insane. Tommy is a decent fella and i rate him as someone worth listening to and even helping in the cause - im a dad now and i wont let them suffer - even if i die fighting for the cause. This country is shot and our kids are literally messed up with all the toxic nurture happening.
Tommy Robinson is an absolute HERO. He is speaking TRUTH. Christians should support that endeavour. We MUST. Isn’t that part of our DUTY? So what if he doesn’t speak with a plummy accent? So what if he’s been in a few scrapes? Those of us not privileged to be born into sheltered middle class families usually have. I seem to remember Jesus Himself chose a ‘rough n ready’ bunch of blokes to be His disciples (fishermen, tax collector, revolutionary etc) rather than the local ‘cultured’ intelligentsia. TR is an excellent investigative journalist. He’s also an exceptionally brave man and an extremely determined truth teller. History WILL justify him. It already has.
That is a depraved idea. It may be the job of the PM to behave like an idiot, but it is always better that they are not actually an idiot, as well as a bigoted thug.
For Sure. God loves a sinner. Tommy tried to warn us back in 2009 and the government have treated him badly especially with lawfare. He has lost everything and still has the courage to keep fighting for what is right. Tommy has sacrificed so much. He doesn't claim to be innocent. ❤
I find it ironic that Christian people are less likely to believe in evil, as the rest of us. We all tend to think that everyone else thinks in a similar way to ourselves, if you are kind and decent, you expect the folk around you to be the same. That leaves people very vulnerable to deceit. Unless you believe in evil and are ready to combat it with as much conviction as you believe in good, you will be leaving yourself open to attack. Mainstream press are utterly vile but the sheeple listen none the less. That has to change and I think it is but will it be fast enough? Our whole civilisation depends on people seeing through the lies.
People like Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson have the courage to hold a mirror up to society and expose its failures. Perhaps they are the real followers of Jesus Christ.
Sadly, why would Tommy Robinson become a Christian at this point in time when we as Christians have accepted the lies spoken about him? He has been far more honourable than we. Yes, we were all deceived, but where is Christian discernment in all this? How naïve have we been, especially with regard to successive UK governments and supra-national organisations.
Fantastic, well said. Tommy is the real deal, a hero. I can't think of anyone like him in our times, exceptional. I believed the msm until I started to actually listen to him.
Absolutely agree, as an evangelical Christian. Tommy is completely right about Islam, and has shown so much more guts and discernment than almost all Christian leaders, with the honourable exception of Christian Concern.
I am an Atheist and I am a good person, kind caring, and I also see this in Tommy, or anybody who is genuine and care about the truth and justice... I also respect what you believe as long as it is not harming anyone. Islam, at its core is not a peaceful Religion, but there are many really nice Muslims...
I was on a cycling holiday with two Christian friends in 2017 I live in Australia. I had been watching Tommy's videos on You Tube. We came across Tommy's name chalked onto the footpath in a rural location just outside Canterbury. I was astonished to hear the venom with which my friends reacted to seeing his name chalked on the ground in a very graceful copper plate script. I dared not say anything at the time. A few weeks ago I heard my friend's daughters had spent the weekend on a support for Palestine march in Manchester. It is quite amazing how friends who are undeniably well intentioned can view the world so diametrically different to my own outlook. They live in Manchester and seem oblivious to the dangers these mass waves of men from war torn regions are presenting their daughters. I think no less of my friends, I'm just amazed how even the most humble can be captured by the propaganda we are all subjected to. I remain open minded about Tommy's version of events. I was raised in a small town near Watford and am familiar with the way Tommy speaks most of my school mates spoke like Tommy speaks. I have noticed that many media pundits will avoid interviewing Tommy on the basis that he is working class, and grew up in a society where differences were resolved with a fist fight. A lot of the views we hear even on less trammelled news sources like You Tube are VERY middle class and quite unintentionally snobby and fearful of people from poorer areas.
Well before Mahyar Tousi made Tommy Robinson less toxic and talked about him on his channel I would listen to Tommy but because of the years of vilification I was still quite wary. Thankfully I still listened to him coz he sounded truthful and I liked what he said coz I believed lots of what he said. Hopefully the COZY LAZY COMFORTABLE middle classes will listen to him. What a interview with Dr Peterson !!!!!!!!!!!!
We knew a prison officer who was a paedophil who got sanctuary in the Mormon church. He avoided jail to get away from his crimes. All religions need to look closely at themselves. Just come back from Malta where our lady is revered. The gender issue is solely to destroy masculinity and femininity.
Truth and justice from wherever it comes, should be embraced. I have been supporting Tommy for 15 years and continue to. Tommy Robinson has been slandered by the establishment for far too long and the people responsible should be brought to justice. Thank you, Jordon for shedding light on this injustice.
I was born and brought up in Luton. I moved my family out of Luton and the UK in 1997. I Know that a lot of what Tommy was saying is true reg Luton. which is why I moved..
Tommy Robinson is very intelligent and his bravery is off the scale. His grammar isn't great but that is just a 'learned' thing. I am so touched by his life and what he has suffered, love to him and safety all around him.
Many Christians joined Tommy Robinson at the event on 1st June, Christians said the Lord's Pray from the stage, Speaker's Corner BOB was one of the Christian Speakers. The crowd were encouraged to recite Jesus is King. You both would be very welcome if you choose to join us on the 27th.
Many years ago I decided that I would exercise my critical faculties in relation to universally execrated figures such as Tommy Robinson. I had no special access to any unusual sources of information - just the media available to everyone and the ability to think clearly and spot dishonesty when it crossed my path. It pretty rapidly became clear to me that Tommy Robinson was a courageous, impetuous, moral man against whom the British state was waging a war of defamation and intimidation. Nothing I've seen or heard over the years has changed my assessment. It is sad that so few people have been inclined to invest the limited time and intellectual energy necessary to think for themselves and instead have actively or passively been content to be part of what has effectively been a lynch mob. Congratulations to you both for having finally come out in some kind of qualified defence of him. Still too little and way too late but at least you have finally arrived. Don't look back.
I couldn't agree more, and my judgement of Tommy was made entirely based on his actual words and actions. I have never, ever had any cause for concern about racism. No one can see into a man's soul, but we CAN judge people on their words and actions. I appeal to anyone reading this to actually give poor old Tommy a chance.
Well said. I too once maligned Tommy and held the comfortable elite opinion of him until I bothered to listen to him. After his Oxford union address which was incredibly brave for a lad from his background to do I reversed my prejudice. I pray for that lad and his safety. The bravest man in British public life.
You two may not have followed Tommy closely but I have watched him with interest & alarm since he first emerged. One of the ways that I know for certain that he tells the truth is that his story NEVER changes. The lad should be a hero of this nation. The demonisation & persecution of him might be the worst crime ever committed by the British establishment.
@@bobglass8398 it's simply a counting device for knowing what prayers are said and in what order. Originates from sailors in the Battle of Lepanto when the Holy Roman League helped defeat the Turkish fleet and save Europe from conquest. 1571
@@user-yv1od6ho7t I know, but my point is we don't need them to be able to pray. They are pointless, as everyone with half a brain knows how to pray. There isn't any order in praying, you pray out of free will, when and where you want.
Have watched Tommy from NZ. Left UK at 5. When he was going to be moved to a high muslim prison I rang the Brit Embassy in tears. He is such a brave man. Truly lives his convictions and has been presecutef for it. It always leaves me in tears at his coursge everytime I see him speak.
One does wonder who made the call to imprison TR in a high muslim facility. I believe there has neen some very high level corruption. As an Australian with some very close friends in the UK, I am staggered at what is going on in the UK.
@@VonDutch68 Oh yes. Very high level corruption. Those on that level, are fearing the great #s of westernized countries that are taking their countries back. I have prayed for yrs for these days to arrive.
Have followed Tommy for a few years so I know he’s had a continual struggle to bring the truth out but so believe every word and it’s a struggle he has had to bare a lot alone. The strength of his convictions is amazing as he obviously has great integrity. Admired from afar where there are supporters for him here in New Zealand.🇳🇿 Prayer for him as he fights for rights of the innocents.
Tommy is a voice shouting in the wilderness,a lone voice for years! A modern day prophet! We need to pray for his protection,by the almighty! He is a catalyst for change in this country!
You have made one understandable, but pertinent mistake. When Tommy was in solitary confinement, it wasn't a Muslim inmate that told him his family were going to be attacked, it was members of the prison staff. That's how vile and corrupt the whole system is.
Tommy was at a rally in central London perhaps a month ago. The crowd engaged in a recital of The Lords Prayer, in the open, in public out loud. A brave act.
Katherine says exactly the same -i.e. both sexes have been corrupted out of their natural tasks. Masculinity has been portrayed either as ruthless abusers or limp followers of feminists as decorations. Women encouraged to be whores or shrieking banshees for mindless causes - in the name of compassion. Time for the tide to turn.
The way people have spoken about Tommy Robinson is exactly the way that the Pharisees and the Sadducees would have talked about Jesus Christ would have been talked about in the New Testament. I have been following other good people that have been media-tarred and feathered. I as a Christian am trying to open the ears of Christians I know in my country about this dynamic. The silence of the Church-whatever denomination you belong to….. The silence of the Church is deafening,
Absolutely agree with you. Woe are you when all men speak well of you, that is how they treated the false prophets. Tommy is absolutely correct about Islam and has shown enormous courage. I am an evangelical Christian, and, with the exception of Christian Concern and Andrea Williams and a few others, church leaders have failed to show discernment or courage.
Tommy is one of the most Christ-like men I've ever come across. His energy and deep concern for children and his nation is compelling. Have followed his journey for many years. Thanks to Jordan and Tammy for opening the door for the 'Lion of Britain' to roar.
Why is it unexpected? Tommy has always talked sense and truth from day one. And he speaks very well. I dont understand why you think otherwise. Im not being hostile, im a fellow Catholic.
Anyone who has actually listened to Robinson from the get-go would know only truth and more truth has come out of his mouth. He is the bravest man in Britain. Even braver than Murray!
@@LowlierThanThow The mudlims pray to demons, have no idea who Jesus Christ is and have been deceived. At the age of 22, I had a vision of Heaven, I was on the flowery meadow, communicated with an Angel and saw my soul family members; they were happy to see me and love and wait for me!: I didn't see/ feel a single muslim There! Only people who know and follow JChrist can go to Heaven. I felt it There, it was obvious. Unless they have their "own heaven" where do they go?? Because they don't go to Where Angels dwell and Jesus Christ rules with Love And Peace and Justice. ✨💖🏔️🧘🏻♀️🌊 🧐
One thing that also distresses me is seeing women with tattoos on arms and legs, in fact everywhere. They are copying men and have lost their femininity.
This analysis of the interview between the Petersons and Tommy Robinson was honest and helpful. I heard humility from Gavin that is so rare in men these days. God bless you both. I happened to watch the complete interview last night and found Tommy Robinson to be believable. The story is shocking, from the grooming of young British girls by radical Islamists and the corruption of the authorities, the media and the judiciary. I am a woman from New Zealand so barely knew anything about Tommy Robinson. Perhaps that is why I was able to watch the complete interview as I had no predetermined views about Tommy. Praying for Tommy and Jordan to receive the gift of the Catholic faith is a good and charitable act.
I decided after listening to T Robinson a while back, to attend the St Georges Day Celebration at Whitehall in London, and then the rally in June and I will be there, God willing on July 27th at Trafalgar Sq. I met some lovely people at all these events, who care passionately about there country. As a Catholic, and an Englishman , i believe the Movement he has inspired, is a force for good and is Pro Christian, which is very refreshing. I believe TR has matured greatly and is certainly not racist. I shall leave it at that, only to say I greatly appreciate, Katherine and Gavin discussing, what I believe is a very important matter in our country's history. When this video finishes it will be my privilege to sign up for membership
I have only been aware of Tommy Robinson for about two years and I am very impressed with this man. Few men/women will absorb the punishment he has and keep moving forward. The stories he told of prisons, the returning soldiers, the widespread corruption and the 'grooming' gangs are quite horrific. The authorities and establishment are hell bent in silencing him permanently. This is the type of treatment reserved for the likes of Steve Biko.
He, (Tommy), does say that there is no documented evidence that he is Racist and always ask people to show him where it says that... Thank you for showing this... Tommy R is one brave determined guy...
I’ve followed Tommy Robinson since 2019. He is a modern day saint. He has endured persecution for many years now but he soldiers on. I’ve been praying the Rosary for him for a few years and it’s wonderful to witness Our Blessed Mother’s grace surrounding him. But he is still in the midst of an epic battle. The more prayers the better.🙏
31:26 ‘Men have stopped being men and women have stopped being women.’ How true. This was brought home to me recently when my wife and I stopped off on a hot day at a Wetherspoons with a good outdoor area, during an England Euro football match. The place was packed and every outdoor table was soon taken. As I glanced round, I was struck by the fact that every single table, except for ours and one other middle aged couple, was occupied by groups of either young women or young men. There was not a single table of young men and women together, in each others company; they had literally segregated themselves. All seemingly having fun, but not together. It struck me not only as very odd, but somehow unnatural as well.
A list of the people who got together to hide what happened in Huddersfield These people need to be asked individually, whey they did what they did This system needs to be looked into and these people, all of them as individuals
I was wary of him when I realised thr "he who cannot be named" across social media was Tommy Robinson and that he'd been a part of the EDL. Since then I've had a proper listen to what he's got say in long form interviews and I'm pretty certain he's being honest. I've the studied rhetoric of Nazis and other socialist groups who actual were racist (including the USSR, CCP and Mosley's Fascists), even the "toned down" language the Nazis used when they were trying to elected. Tommy Robinson couldn't be further away from them.
Thank you both so much for your honesty. It was not nice the way Tommy was treated over here in Canada .An embarrassment to the awake part of Canada. But in the long run it brought attention to the mess we are in Western Society. Blessings. Gerri.🙏☘️
Thanks for giving Tommy a fair hearing. For me he epitomises the qualities most of our politicians anf church leaders lack. The people who love his truth know that he speaks from the heart, and that his words, sometimes clumsy, carry no ambiguuity. God bless the man that he is.
History has told us that they always crucify those that speak the truth and stand with the truth. I watched both his interviews with Jordan and the podcast. And I think he's speaking the truth. He is trying to protect the innocents here. May truth prevail.🙏
“Are we “up to it”? Why do we not see such articulation and courage from our bishops?! Many are willing to fall in and follow their lead. Thank you for your courage and leadership. The church will regain its relevance when its leaders clearly enter the breach and courageously speak the truth. Thanks again. Fascinating topic!
I am sorry to learn that you felt you couldn't stand by Tommy only because he wasn't a Christian because right and truth and the lives of inoccent children are were counted. But I am just as sorry that Tommy mocked you afterwards. In his defence I would only say that he has come a long way over the ten years or so in which I have been following him and I doubt he would do so now. I agree on the importance of this videod conversation between Tommy and Dr Peterson. I believe it is a seminal moment in the struggle for truth and justice over ideology. Please come to our rally in Trafalgar Squarre on July 27th. You will be very welcome.
Paedophilia is only one aspect and not the biggest problem of the corruption within the church. Statistics show that homosexuality and pedarastey is the greatest problem. The ordination of homosexual men and all that stem from that, is the root of the problem.
5 years ago I would have agreed with you. Now I'd say Marxism is a FAR more serious threat. If that's not gone all the rest will just increase, and so many more unchristian things as well.
Yes. Agreed.. Mark Steyn has displayed comparable courage and intellectual integrity in the public sphere - albeit in a different manner. Catholic Abbreviated was very moving today for the compelling honesty of both Katharine and Gavin.
There are none of us that doesn't have a past, I think both these men ate absolutely the most courageous of men especially Tommy who bore with thd dreadful threat to his family and stll bore witness to the truth even to losing his freedom. VIVA CHRISTOS REY
Tommy Robinson was a name I was barely familiar with until the Balenciaga scandal. I was horrified that a high end fashion brand were using young children in their add pictures surrounded by adult sex toys and satanic imagery. I went online to look for the outrage, as the mainstream media, the Guardian in particular supported and made excuses for Balenciaga. I seen this guy called Tommy Robinson protesting with less than 10 others at Balenciagas store in London. My impression was, this is a real man. Is this the man i heard the name racist and far right I thought. Well after seeing his protest i thought no, this is a good man. I can confirm some of what Robinson said to Peterson. In the early 2000s I knew a young man of my own age who was a chronic alcoholic. He told me that he was introduced to drugs by Asians in Glasgow. Himself and many others were groomed and told the drugs were not illegal but natural pick me ups. They were invited to parties in fairly ordinary nice suburban houses and the Asians were very nice to them to begin with. He also said he never knew what drug it was but in an effort to stop taking the drugs he would knock himself out with alcahol, and became an alcoholic. Thank God he became an evangelic Christian and kicked his habit. Incidentally as i worked in community mental health project, where you hear things that people will not tell social workers, psychiatrists etc. I heard things and fought battles that for years i sometimes wish i had never encountered. I cant write them here, but they are as bad and even worse than the drug gangs. Lets just say I'm not at all surprised that there are poor and vulnerable people where the last persons they would go to are those in authority. But during all this I had miraculous encounters with amazing and holy people. I also had experiences on receiving the eucharist i could never deny, and many other spiritual experiences that i did not deserve. I cant attest to the power of prayer, God even showed me in visions the persons who's prayers He used to help me, people i never knew or had met. Most of us, thank God, are not encountering these horrors but only if we knew how efficacious our prayers are, we would be praying as often as we can. Please pray, because your prayers are experienced as undeniable God given little miracles by those in most desperate need of prayer. On a lighter note, i love Catherines understated humour which she drops when you least expect it.
You only have to look at the way the Police removed him from his breakfast in a cafe - spraying him with pepper gas- for the sin of having his breakfast.
Why did Gavin refer to certain rapists as "Pakistani men who happened to be Muslim"? and not "Muslim men who happened to be Pakistani" or "Men who happened to be Pakistani and Muslim" or "Persons who happened to be men and Pakistani and Muslim"? Is rapi-ness part and parcel of being Pakistani? Why does Mrs Bennett insist on the distinction between Islam and radical Islam? Who was the ideal muslim? see Quran 33:21. What sort of Islam did Muhammad preach and practise? What did ISIS do that Muhammad didn't? I object to Gavin's statement that Peterson has had problems with drug addiction without mentioning that they were prescribed drugs. The omission of that fact would make the natural assumption be that he was a "drug addict" of the criminal or alcoholic kind. Pygmalion is as true now as ever of the English. They can't help but judge the value of a person by their manner of speech. As for Tommy's fraud conviction it was for the sort of thing that happens all the time and people hardly ever get prosecuted for. It was a case of "Show me the man and I will find you the crime"
The phrases are used with deliberate echoes of the secular narrative and were meant to be heard with a degree of irony. I do understand about Peterson’s health, and have followed the description of the difficulties he’ had with prescription painkillers, and count myself one of his most sympathetic and supportive admirers
Mrs Bennett makes a distinction between Islam and radical Islam not because she is unaware of the sliding scale linking one to the other but because Tommy Robinson makes it in his video and it is one of the ways of allowing him to defend himself against blanket Islamophobia.
@@DrGAshenden I think Tommy "makes the distinction" verbally but he knows there is only one islam and it is the one that goes by the moniker "radical islam". There is a youtube entitled "Moderate vs Radical Muslim" in which a room full of muslims are asked whether they believe in the distinction.The overwhelming majority denied the distinction. That is not to say that everyone who identifies as muslim actually knows and believes all the precepts of radical islam and is prepared to practise them. The distinction is like that between moderate Christianity (i.e. what nominal Christians believe/do) and extreme Christianity (i.e. what saints believe and do). There are not two Christianities and a sliding scale between them. There is only one, and self-identified "Christians" circle around it at various distances from the centre. The Christian orbits around Christ. The muslim orbits around Muhammad, like a moth around a candle-flame. He orbits the flame because he is drawn towards it. It is only a matter of time before this or that Muslim catches fire and voila! a terrorist incident. Also the doctrinal differences in Islam are not nearly as marked as in Christianity. The violent jihadist part is central to all of them (with the possible exception of the Amadiyya - who form -about 1% muslims world-wide). If you want to know what muslims really think visit the chat rooms where they talk to each other. It looks very different to what they say to outsiders.
Thank you for being honest and giving a fair account of Tommy. Your account of that interview may change the minds of the middle class, and as a result may raise further awareness, and even save lives 🙏
I've followed Tommy for 15 years and he has stood up to close scrutiny from every fair minded person. I'd want him by my side if i went into a mental or physical battle. He doesn’t lead a life of religion but he is a cultural Christian who draws more toward Christianity with age, his mother is a devout Catholic from Ireland. We've clearly seen mainstream media try to demonise Farage in the last month and Tommy has always been an easier target. Bottom line is that Christianity in Britain is under threat from Islam and it's going to be more difficult to resist its subjugation if Labour bring in new blasphemy laws to prevent us shining a light on its misogyny, homophobia and Polygamy etc. We must always push for free speech or the west is doomed.
Tommy witnessed all that crucial change in his hometown from a magnified perspective, from a young age to this current day. All he has is his own observation, and the truths that he had witnessed. This is why people should pay attention to what he is saying. I used to not be against mass migration, I have always thought of it as natural as it is to nature. But when you bring in gangs, drugs, and criminals or worst terrorists. That changes everything.
The sad thing is that people complain that Robinson et al are uncouth and intimidating and therefore don’t take their complaints seriously. But think about it logically. Where else would a group of young white men arise who are prepared to take on Islamist and Pakistani counter protestors and all the gangs and shady business that involves? There is no organised church in working class communities that would take this on. There aren’t even cultural associations. All we have is the football terraces.
Today's 'Catholic Abbreviated' was notable for its almost shocking honesty. The edition deserves a much wider currency; I was repeatedly moved by the discussion and, at different points, was confronted by my own cowardice.
At the end of the first Patriots rally on the 1st June the Lord's Prayer was said on mass! 2nd Rally is on the 27th July, Christians should support him and the others fighting for our Christian values.
Excellent discussion. All politicians, local authorities, judiciary, and police in the UK should watch this video, listen to it properly, and re-set the way they look at this whole issue (particularly with regard to Tommy's unjust treatment in the courts, during his efforts to expose and stop the gangs). The authorities should also use this as a training video, for police and judges, to understand the full extent of the corruption that has been going on for years ... the cover-ups and the cancellation of whistleblowers ... all of which has led to the degradation and disintegration of Britain's cultural society and cohesion.
Dear girl, I am an eighty one year old great grandmother and God bless you, you have brought tears to my eyes. It's when you spoke about your dad and your conversation about how life in this country used to be. God bless you and thank you. It's all so ugly now but we will not be dismayed. I will remember what you said, reminding us what Jesus said to Pilate about truth. 'We will know the truth and the truth will set us free.' John 8:32. Amen.
As an atheist, I very much enjoyed this balanced discussion. TR is an exceptionally brave soldier, he says and does what we all want to do (but never do) He has had is problems, and no doubt, in the balance of probability, he is guilty of some of his crimes, however he stands for all of us, nothing whatsoever about religion, simply right and wrong ❤️
Thank you for getting this video out now , before it’s too late. Personally I only first actually saw him was on Armistice day , when I first thought he was plain clothes police. Then as I watch Mayar Tousi continuous video of the day .. and then saw how the main stream media tried today he was in another part of london causing trouble , I realised how dangerous the media have become . I’m 73 years old, I now listen to all he has to say.. and as far as I know I’ve never seen him lie, or any proof that he s dangerous to the country. He’s a hero to anyone who believes in Great Britain, and want to rebuild it , and he’s certainly not right wing!
The only thing ‘toxic’ about Tommy Robinson is the filth hurled at him by msm. I have supported him for years, both morally and financially, I am proud to have done so, and I will continue to do so.
Not heard of you guys before and clicked because of Tommy Robinson. So glad I did. Great heartfelt conversation. Can highly recommend follow Tommy and to watch the Peterson interview ♥
I hear the truth. He doesn’t make things up. And to listen to Jordan and Tommy, is a privilege. I never heard of him before. Yes,he is speaking the Truth. No doubt in my heart and mind.
We are Christians and have been following Tommy and praying for him for over 10 years. We were like you, believing the media, that he was toxic, racist and portrayed as a thug. But we were aware of the issues with the rape gangs and we listened to what he had to say. I believe that what he said about your meeting was bravado, with his mates. He agreed to you praying for him, and you sowed a seed which I believe will be watered and grow. He has suffered so much for the stand he has taken and I fear what is coming to many more of us who uphold truth.
The main issue for Tommy is that he was a hooligan and also he is extremely working class, and in the UK class in everything, so he was hated (and disrespected) from day one, regardless of any point he had to make. Especially after Oct 7 2023, he is starting to get taken my seriously as people observe what is actually going on.
He is not racist, when people are young and unheard or silenced, most compassionate young people act very emotional and can make mistakes. I listen to him without prejudice and I can totally relate to his story. All people whether Christian or not should support him.
I have never heard Mr Robinson say anything even slightly controversial. That he is persona non grata is more a comment on those who pose for points, rather than Mr Robinson.
We flew into London on the 9th for an ARC meeting and we went to Tommy’s meeting as well. We won’t be there on July 27. That day is my dad’s celebration of life in Canada.
The next episode of Tommy’s interview is planned for July 28. We pray that July 27 Tommy Robinson patriotic gathering will bring the British culture together in renewed courage to uphold British values
Thank you for that podcast you did with Tommy. I've known him (mostly remotely) since 2010 right back at the beginning of the EDL though we have met a couple of times, touring here in Israel with him and his friends and the UK. Yours was definitely one of the best explorations of who he is I've seen out of many many appearances.
@@brianoflondonI hope it will help him be more effective with the upcoming challenges in court
… I watched your interview last night and it’s changed my life too … this morning the news (hidden quietly) is that Keir Starmer is releasing prisoners early … one (huh, well the only 1 being admitted at this point) of them a convicted rapist and the LEADER of a grooming gang … things are very rotten in the state of Britain!
@@TammyPetersonPodcast Tammy, I found the Tommy Robinson interview so interesting. Especially with your experience through the rosary, I hope he finds that devotion (I especially thought of it when he talked about being in solitary confinement).
I also hope that the people coming from a more secular or non-Christian background realize that what made/makes "Western civilization" special is its roots in Catholicism. Conversion will ultimately be what saves society.
Tammy, there was an electric moment in that interview when you said to Tommy: "you spoke the truth".
I was raped by a group of Pakistani men nearly 50 years ago. I know that they raped at least 2 other women, but in the 1970s few women came forward to report rape, so there may have been more. I thought that it was a sort of one off - that they just happened to be Pakistani men. It was not until heard about The Grooming Gangs that I realised this is a cultural issue. However, my real anger is reserved for those who covered this up for years. We have sacrificed thousands of children on the altar of Wokeness - and the fear of being seen as 'Islamophobic'. I am really moved by Tommy Robinson's courage and tenacity - Wokeness is a powerful ideology and one of its main weapons is to cancel people. He has been like a modern day Gideon figure.
Thank you for sharing this Patricia. So sorry for what happened to you 🙏
Very brave of you to tell us of this.
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So sorry for what happened to. This will be our biggest shame as a country, turning the other way to child rape. It's so shocking. All that was aware should be in jail.
I am sorry to hear that and pray for you and their sincere repentance. What is really needed is their conversion as that is likely the only thing that will stop this from happening. The men in these cultures to find Jesus and see how this is destroying our humanity is needed. I have a family member who had something similar (different US cultural problem) and am amazed at her strength of heart to forgive and move on. Hopefully, more will be done to prevent these things from happening. God bless you.
I watched the whole Peterson interview of Tommy Robinson staying up late into the night fearing that the video would be deleted. Tommy is absolutely a Christian in a deeper way than many who profess to be Christian. He has gone way beyond talking the talk to actually walking the walk. He is a hero and I’m sure God would address him as “my good and faithful servant”. I pray for Tommy who has laid everything on the line to save others!❤️💕❤️
Here here - well said!
He is Stephen yaxley Lennon bit Tommy.
He changed his name to look more English
He was paid to make anybody criticizing Islam look like a yob.
This was then used to silence everybody for 15 years. The little England TV brainwashed masses fell for it.
Ask why he never critisises the real people who organized the mass Islamic invasion. Those pay him
True traitor.
I agree God bless him…he is riddled with PTSD I hope more people pray for him he is fighting against evil in many ways he’s a warrior type 🙏🏻
Agreed. The religious of Jesus time nailed Him to the cross. Look at the fruits of a person.
Yes I see the suffering of Christ in Tommy. And also the disciples who were not all educated men either but loved Jesus. I’ve been following him for some time now and praying for him.
Tony Blairs Labour government abolished the old Christian blasphemy act, now the Labour party are talking about bringing in Islamic blasphemy laws. What are we becoming?
The present Regime in Ireland did the same a few years ago and are preparing Islamic Blasphemy laws soon !!!
Blair later became Catholic.
Anti-Christian.
Not a chance
Our ‘regular’ politicians have become radical Islamist puppets. They’re cowards. It’s disgusting.
I’ve been following Tommy for years. He’s been blasting the alarms since 2009. Everyone made fun of him. Now UK is dead.
he was cancelled because f his class - he doesn't fit in with the news readers or politicians - even on this video - the people we all listen too are cut from a certain cloth - a cloth we have been lead to believe holds truth - it couldn't be further from the truth - its insane. Tommy is a decent fella and i rate him as someone worth listening to and even helping in the cause - im a dad now and i wont let them suffer - even if i die fighting for the cause. This country is shot and our kids are literally messed up with all the toxic nurture happening.
I don't think he would agree with you.
It's happening all across Europe!
Tommy Robinson is an absolute HERO. He is speaking TRUTH. Christians should support that endeavour. We MUST. Isn’t that part of our DUTY? So what if he doesn’t speak with a plummy accent? So what if he’s been in a few scrapes? Those of us not privileged to be born into sheltered middle class families usually have. I seem to remember Jesus Himself chose a ‘rough n ready’ bunch of blokes to be His disciples (fishermen, tax collector, revolutionary etc) rather than the local ‘cultured’ intelligentsia. TR is an excellent investigative journalist. He’s also an exceptionally brave man and an extremely determined truth teller. History WILL justify him. It already has.
I agree wholeheartedly with you.
You are not a Christian !
Well said.
Tommy's Robinson should be the prime minister
Home Secretary
How about we do away with this crooked system and have elders ,
They should certainly build a statue to him one day, though I can't see that happening, sadly.
That is a depraved idea. It may be the job of the PM to behave like an idiot, but it is always better that they are not actually an idiot, as well as a bigoted thug.
@@calmingcrist4515 Sorry, don't understand. Can you say it again, in English ?
The man is no angel - as he says - but he is the most courageous of men.
Yep
For Sure. God loves a sinner. Tommy tried to warn us back in 2009 and the government have treated him badly especially with lawfare. He has lost everything and still has the courage to keep fighting for what is right. Tommy has sacrificed so much. He doesn't claim to be innocent. ❤
Rubbish
@@22grena you know it’s true
I trust Tommy and the Petersons. Bravo Katharine and Gavin for bringing this forward.
It's extremely worrying that "good " people appear terrified to even mention the name Tommy Robinson.
True - in Ontario, Canada a politician has recently been "fired" from the party for associating with Tommy.
Globalism uses these tactics to maintain power over the public.
Why would you trust a man who is not even prepared to use his real name?
We will remember those who demonised him forever.
I find it ironic that Christian people are less likely to believe in evil, as the rest of us. We all tend to think that everyone else thinks in a similar way to ourselves, if you are kind and decent, you expect the folk around you to be the same. That leaves people very vulnerable to deceit. Unless you believe in evil and are ready to combat it with as much conviction as you believe in good, you will be leaving yourself open to attack. Mainstream press are utterly vile but the sheeple listen none the less. That has to change and I think it is but will it be fast enough? Our whole civilisation depends on people seeing through the lies.
Thank you for telling the truth about Tommy Robinson and promoting the Jordan Petersen interview. Well done!
People like Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson have the courage to hold a mirror up to society and expose its failures. Perhaps they are the real followers of Jesus Christ.
Warriors for the truth. May Jesus strengthen them Amen 🙏
They are both full of crap
We must pray for Tommy, Jordan, Tammy and all the others who are seeking to reveal truth. Pray on a daily basis, folks.
Yes, thank you Steve 🙏
Sadly, why would Tommy Robinson become a Christian at this point in time when we as Christians have accepted the lies spoken about him? He has been far more honourable than we. Yes, we were all deceived, but where is Christian discernment in all this? How naïve have we been, especially with regard to successive UK governments and supra-national organisations.
Fantastic, well said. Tommy is the real deal, a hero. I can't think of anyone like him in our times, exceptional. I believed the msm until I started to actually listen to him.
Absolutely agree, as an evangelical Christian. Tommy is completely right about Islam, and has shown so much more guts and discernment than almost all Christian leaders, with the honourable exception of Christian Concern.
Is he not an Irish Catholic?
I am an Atheist and I am a good person, kind caring, and I also see this in Tommy, or anybody who is genuine and care about the truth and justice... I also respect what you believe as long as it is not harming anyone. Islam, at its core is not a peaceful Religion, but there are many really nice Muslims...
I was on a cycling holiday with two Christian friends in 2017 I live in Australia. I had been watching Tommy's videos on You Tube.
We came across Tommy's name chalked onto the footpath in a rural location just outside Canterbury.
I was astonished to hear the venom with which my friends reacted to seeing his name chalked on the ground in a very graceful copper plate script.
I dared not say anything at the time.
A few weeks ago I heard my friend's daughters had spent the weekend on a support for Palestine march in Manchester.
It is quite amazing how friends who are undeniably well intentioned can view the world so diametrically different to my own outlook.
They live in Manchester and seem oblivious to the dangers these mass waves of men from war torn regions are presenting their daughters.
I think no less of my friends, I'm just amazed how even the most humble can be captured by the propaganda we are all subjected to.
I remain open minded about Tommy's version of events. I was raised in a small town near Watford and am familiar with the way Tommy speaks most of my school mates spoke like Tommy speaks.
I have noticed that many media pundits will avoid interviewing Tommy on the basis that he is working class, and grew up in a society where differences were resolved with a fist fight.
A lot of the views we hear even on less trammelled news sources like You Tube are VERY middle class and quite unintentionally snobby and fearful of people from poorer areas.
Good bless, Tommy Robinson. I've always loved him. God bless the Peterson's.
Well before Mahyar Tousi made Tommy Robinson less toxic and talked about him on his channel I would listen to Tommy but because of the years of vilification I was still quite wary. Thankfully I still listened to him coz he sounded truthful and I liked what he said coz I believed lots of what he said.
Hopefully the COZY LAZY COMFORTABLE middle classes will listen to him. What a interview with Dr Peterson !!!!!!!!!!!!
We knew a prison officer who was a paedophil who got sanctuary in the Mormon church. He avoided jail to get away from his crimes. All religions need to look closely at themselves. Just come back from Malta where our lady is revered. The gender issue is solely to destroy masculinity and femininity.
Yes, as one of those mc people I dismissed Tommy without listening. I am grateful for the JP interview and this commentary
Sorry, i am middle class public school educated and have been a Tom Robbinson supporter for many years. Less prejudice please.
Yes yes 🙌 I don’t think I’m lazy but am middle class and yes! October 7th and reading the Quran changed me xzx
Carl Benjamin, first of Sargon of Akkad, then of Lotus Eaters fame, did it first.
I watched the interview and found it compelling. I believe he spoke the truth. I demand that these allegations are honestly investigated.
This will never happen, like Covid the authorities have already shown they would rather fit TR up the people who run things are Evil.
By. whom though, all has been corrupted?
Truth and justice from wherever it comes, should be embraced. I have been supporting Tommy for 15 years and continue to. Tommy Robinson has been slandered by the establishment for far too long and the people responsible should be brought to justice.
Thank you, Jordon for shedding light on this injustice.
I was born and brought up in Luton. I moved my family out of Luton and the UK in 1997. I Know that a lot of what Tommy was saying is true reg Luton. which is why I moved..
Tommy Robinson is very intelligent and his bravery is off the scale. His grammar isn't great but that is just a 'learned' thing. I am so touched by his life and what he has suffered, love to him and safety all around him.
Jesus also suffered for his belief, Then the elite crucified him.
Many Christians joined Tommy Robinson at the event on 1st June, Christians said the Lord's Pray from the stage, Speaker's Corner BOB was one of the Christian Speakers. The crowd were encouraged to recite Jesus is King. You both would be very welcome if you choose to join us on the 27th.
Many years ago I decided that I would exercise my critical faculties in relation to universally execrated figures such as Tommy Robinson. I had no special access to any unusual sources of information - just the media available to everyone and the ability to think clearly and spot dishonesty when it crossed my path. It pretty rapidly became clear to me that Tommy Robinson was a courageous, impetuous, moral man against whom the British state was waging a war of defamation and intimidation. Nothing I've seen or heard over the years has changed my assessment. It is sad that so few people have been inclined to invest the limited time and intellectual energy necessary to think for themselves and instead have actively or passively been content to be part of what has effectively been a lynch mob. Congratulations to you both for having finally come out in some kind of qualified defence of him. Still too little and way too late but at least you have finally arrived. Don't look back.
I couldn't agree more, and my judgement of Tommy was made entirely based on his actual words and actions. I have never, ever had any cause for concern about racism. No one can see into a man's soul, but we CAN judge people on their words and actions. I appeal to anyone reading this to actually give poor old Tommy a chance.
Well said. I too once maligned Tommy and held the comfortable elite opinion of him until I bothered to listen to him. After his Oxford union address which was incredibly brave for a lad from his background to do I reversed my prejudice. I pray for that lad and his safety. The bravest man in British public life.
@@hongyi99 Hear hear!
@@hongyi99 Yes and he is intelligent
You two may not have followed Tommy closely but I have watched him with interest & alarm since he first emerged. One of the ways that I know for certain that he tells the truth is that his story NEVER changes. The lad should be a hero of this nation. The demonisation & persecution of him might be the worst crime ever committed by the British establishment.
He accepted a rosary from Calvin the other day during an interview
His Rangers mates won't be very pleased
We don't need a string of beads to know how and what to pray for.
@@bobglass8398 it's simply a counting device for knowing what prayers are said and in what order. Originates from sailors in the Battle of Lepanto when the Holy Roman League helped defeat the Turkish fleet and save Europe from conquest. 1571
@@user-yv1od6ho7t I know, but my point is we don't need them to be able to pray. They are pointless, as everyone with half a brain knows how to pray. There isn't any order in praying, you pray out of free will, when and where you want.
Tommy is a good man who speaks the Truth.
Have watched Tommy from NZ. Left UK at 5. When he was going to be moved to a high muslim prison I rang the Brit Embassy in tears. He is such a brave man. Truly lives his convictions and has been presecutef for it. It always leaves me in tears at his coursge everytime I see him speak.
One does wonder who made the call to imprison TR in a high muslim facility.
I believe there has neen some very high level corruption.
As an Australian with some very close friends in the UK, I am staggered at what is going on in the UK.
@@VonDutch68 Oh yes. Very high level corruption. Those on that level, are fearing the great #s of westernized countries that are taking their countries back. I have prayed for yrs for these days to arrive.
Me too, thank you.
Have followed Tommy for a few years so I know he’s had a continual struggle to bring the truth out but so believe every word and it’s a struggle he has had to bare a lot alone. The strength of his convictions is amazing as he obviously has great integrity. Admired from afar where there are supporters for him here in New Zealand.🇳🇿
Prayer for him as he fights for rights of the innocents.
New Zealander here too and I’m with you on your statement too
Tommy is a voice shouting in the wilderness,a lone voice for years!
A modern day prophet!
We need to pray for his protection,by the almighty!
He is a catalyst for change in this country!
You have made one understandable, but pertinent mistake. When Tommy was in solitary confinement, it wasn't a Muslim inmate that told him his family were going to be attacked, it was members of the prison staff. That's how vile and corrupt the whole system is.
Indeed. A man who threw a bacon sandwich at a mosque died in jail.
Tommy was at a rally in central London perhaps a month ago. The crowd engaged in a recital of The Lords Prayer, in the open, in public out loud. A brave act.
I agree with Katherine that men must rediscover chivalry but so too must young women rediscover modesty, at least as far as how they use the Internet.
Katherine says exactly the same -i.e. both sexes have been corrupted out of their natural tasks. Masculinity has been portrayed either as ruthless abusers or limp followers of feminists as decorations. Women encouraged to be whores or shrieking banshees for mindless causes - in the name of compassion. Time for the tide to turn.
You make a good point about what young women should learn about modesty, notions of privacy and personal spaces.
The same is going on in the US and other countries. Hungary is one of the few that has stood up to this evil.
The way people have spoken about Tommy Robinson is exactly the way that the Pharisees and the Sadducees would have talked about Jesus Christ would have been talked about in the New Testament. I have been following other good people that have been media-tarred and feathered. I as a Christian am trying to open the ears of Christians I know in my country about this dynamic. The silence of the Church-whatever denomination you belong to….. The silence of the Church is deafening,
Absolutely agree with you. Woe are you when all men speak well of you, that is how they treated the false prophets. Tommy is absolutely correct about Islam and has shown enormous courage. I am an evangelical Christian, and, with the exception of Christian Concern and Andrea Williams and a few others, church leaders have failed to show discernment or courage.
Or the Romans about the Jews.
Tommy is one of the most Christ-like men I've ever come across. His energy and deep concern for children and his nation is compelling. Have followed his journey for many years. Thanks to Jordan and Tammy for opening the door for the 'Lion of Britain' to roar.
Why is it unexpected? Tommy has always talked sense and truth from day one. And he speaks very well. I dont understand why you think otherwise. Im not being hostile, im a fellow Catholic.
Anyone who has actually listened to Robinson from the get-go would know only truth and more truth has come out of his mouth. He is the bravest man in Britain. Even braver than Murray!
45 mosques in Tommy’s town. Sick
Many have replaced churches.
And who has allowed it .corrupt Governments
How sick that people want to pray to God.
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The mudlims pray to demons, have no idea who Jesus Christ is and have been deceived.
At the age of 22, I had a vision of Heaven, I was on the flowery meadow, communicated with an Angel and saw my soul family members; they were happy to see me and love and wait for me!:
I didn't see/ feel a single muslim There!
Only people who know and follow JChrist can go to Heaven. I felt it There, it was obvious.
Unless they have their "own heaven" where do they go??
Because they don't go to Where Angels dwell and Jesus Christ rules with Love And Peace and Justice.
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Rovbinson once made a very quick sign of the cross during a BBC interview.
😂😂😂😂 we all need protection from certain things!
If anybody thinks that Tommy Robinson needs detoxing, their connection with the Holy Spirit needs upgrading.
So true. Discernment
A big thank you and respect to Jordan and Tammy Peterson 👏🏻 🤝🏻
Much appreciated Glenn
The Lady spoke wonderfully about the meaning of masculinity, God bless her.
One thing that also distresses me is seeing women with tattoos on arms and legs, in fact everywhere. They are copying men and have lost their femininity.
This analysis of the interview between the Petersons and Tommy Robinson was honest and helpful. I heard humility from Gavin that is so rare in men these days. God bless you both.
I happened to watch the complete interview last night and found Tommy Robinson to be believable. The story is shocking, from the grooming of young British girls by radical Islamists and the corruption of the authorities, the media and the judiciary.
I am a woman from New Zealand so barely knew anything about Tommy Robinson. Perhaps that is why I was able to watch the complete interview as I had no predetermined views about Tommy.
Praying for Tommy and Jordan to receive the gift of the Catholic faith is a good and charitable act.
Blessed are those who hunger for justice 🙏
The powers thay be hate him because he is working class. And our country is steeped in this predjudice it is systemic
He is the object of unjust snobbery. How shocking indeed especially to middle class Labour is a right-wing proletarian.
I don't think its about his class - its because he's exposing the truth.
@@bohmao His class is just the excuse to dismiss him.
I decided after listening to T Robinson a while back, to attend the St Georges Day Celebration at Whitehall in London, and then the rally in June and I will be there, God willing on July 27th at Trafalgar Sq. I met some lovely people at all these events, who care passionately about there country.
As a Catholic, and an Englishman , i believe the Movement he has inspired, is a force for good and is Pro Christian, which is very refreshing.
I believe TR has matured greatly and is certainly not racist.
I shall leave it at that, only to say I greatly appreciate, Katherine and Gavin discussing, what I believe is a very important matter in our country's history.
When this video finishes it will be my privilege to sign up for membership
I have only been aware of Tommy Robinson for about two years and I am very impressed with this man. Few men/women will absorb the punishment he has and keep moving forward. The stories he told of prisons, the returning soldiers, the widespread corruption and the 'grooming' gangs are quite horrific. The authorities and establishment are hell bent in silencing him permanently. This is the type of treatment reserved for the likes of Steve Biko.
He, (Tommy), does say that there is no documented evidence that he is Racist and always ask people to show him where it says that... Thank you for showing this... Tommy R is one brave determined guy...
I’ve followed Tommy Robinson since 2019. He is a modern day saint. He has endured persecution for many years now but he soldiers on. I’ve been praying the Rosary for him for a few years and it’s wonderful to witness Our Blessed Mother’s grace surrounding him. But he is still in the midst of an epic battle. The more prayers the better.🙏
31:26 ‘Men have stopped being men and women have stopped being women.’ How true.
This was brought home to me recently when my wife and I stopped off on a hot day at a Wetherspoons with a good outdoor area, during an England Euro football match. The place was packed and every outdoor table was soon taken.
As I glanced round, I was struck by the fact that every single table, except for ours and one other middle aged couple, was occupied by groups of either young women or young men. There was not a single table of young men and women together, in each others company; they had literally segregated themselves. All seemingly having fun, but not together. It struck me not only as very odd, but somehow unnatural as well.
The UN SDGs.
A list of the people who got together to hide what happened in Huddersfield
These people need to be asked individually, whey they did what they did
This system needs to be looked into and these people, all of them as individuals
I was wary of him when I realised thr "he who cannot be named" across social media was Tommy Robinson and that he'd been a part of the EDL.
Since then I've had a proper listen to what he's got say in long form interviews and I'm pretty certain he's being honest.
I've the studied rhetoric of Nazis and other socialist groups who actual were racist (including the USSR, CCP and Mosley's Fascists), even the "toned down" language the Nazis used when they were trying to elected. Tommy Robinson couldn't be further away from them.
Thank you both so much for your honesty.
It was not nice the way Tommy was treated over here in Canada .An embarrassment to the awake part of Canada.
But in the long run it brought attention to the mess we are in Western Society.
Blessings.
Gerri.🙏☘️
Hitchens called it years ago...
"Resist it while you still can"
Rip Hitch. We miss you.
Thanks for giving Tommy a fair hearing. For me he epitomises the qualities most of our politicians anf church leaders lack. The people who love his truth know that he speaks from the heart, and that his words, sometimes clumsy, carry no ambiguuity. God bless the man that he is.
History has told us that they always crucify those that speak the truth and stand with the truth. I watched both his interviews with Jordan and the podcast. And I think he's speaking the truth. He is trying to protect the innocents here. May truth prevail.🙏
“Are we “up to it”? Why do we not see such articulation and courage from our bishops?! Many are willing to fall in and follow their lead. Thank you for your courage and leadership. The church will regain its relevance when its leaders clearly enter the breach and courageously speak the truth. Thanks again. Fascinating topic!
I am sorry to learn that you felt you couldn't stand by Tommy only because he wasn't a Christian because right and truth and the lives of inoccent children are were counted. But I am just as sorry that Tommy mocked you afterwards. In his defence I would only say that he has come a long way over the ten years or so in which I have been following him and I doubt he would do so now.
I agree on the importance of this videod conversation between Tommy and Dr Peterson. I believe it is a seminal moment in the struggle for truth and justice over ideology.
Please come to our rally in Trafalgar Squarre on July 27th. You will be very welcome.
Paedophilia is only one aspect and not the biggest problem of the corruption within the church. Statistics show that homosexuality and pedarastey is the greatest problem. The ordination of homosexual men and all that stem from that, is the root of the problem.
5 years ago I would have agreed with you. Now I'd say Marxism is a FAR more serious threat. If that's not gone all the rest will just increase, and so many more unchristian things as well.
Who will speak for the Innocents if not the law,,the courts, the elected representatives? Where is the moral leadership,in Britain?
People like Tommy, we must all be Tommy
Time for a Novena to ask for Our Lady's guidance, strength and intercession to counter this attack on virtue.
The conversation about this issue really needs to be opened up to wider discussion.
Add Mark Steyn to your list of truth-tellers.
Yes. Agreed.. Mark Steyn has displayed comparable courage and intellectual integrity in the public sphere - albeit in a different manner. Catholic Abbreviated was very moving today for the compelling honesty of both Katharine and Gavin.
There are none of us that doesn't have a past, I think both these men ate absolutely the most courageous of men especially Tommy who bore with thd dreadful threat to his family and stll bore witness to the truth even to losing his freedom. VIVA CHRISTOS REY
Katherine, you once again were on fire in this video! Great conversation. Thank you both.
Tommy Robinson was a name I was barely familiar with until the Balenciaga scandal. I was horrified that a high end fashion brand were using young children in their add pictures surrounded by adult sex toys and satanic imagery. I went online to look for the outrage, as the mainstream media, the Guardian in particular supported and made excuses for Balenciaga.
I seen this guy called Tommy Robinson protesting with less than 10 others at Balenciagas store in London. My impression was, this is a real man. Is this the man i heard the name racist and far right I thought. Well after seeing his protest i thought no, this is a good man.
I can confirm some of what Robinson said to Peterson. In the early 2000s I knew a young man of my own age who was a chronic alcoholic. He told me that he was introduced to drugs by Asians in Glasgow. Himself and many others were groomed and told the drugs were not illegal but natural pick me ups. They were invited to parties in fairly ordinary nice suburban houses and the Asians were very nice to them to begin with. He also said he never knew what drug it was but in an effort to stop taking the drugs he would knock himself out with alcahol, and became an alcoholic. Thank God he became an evangelic Christian and kicked his habit.
Incidentally as i worked in community mental health project, where you hear things that people will not tell social workers, psychiatrists etc.
I heard things and fought battles that for years i sometimes wish i had never encountered. I cant write them here, but they are as bad and even worse than the drug gangs. Lets just say I'm not at all surprised that there are poor and vulnerable people where the last persons they would go to are those in authority.
But during all this I had miraculous encounters with amazing and holy people. I also had experiences on receiving the eucharist i could never deny, and many other spiritual experiences that i did not deserve.
I cant attest to the power of prayer, God even showed me in visions the persons who's prayers He used to help me, people i never knew or had met.
Most of us, thank God, are not encountering these horrors but only if we knew how efficacious our prayers are, we would be praying as often as we can. Please pray, because your prayers are experienced as undeniable God given little miracles by those in most desperate need of prayer.
On a lighter note, i love Catherines understated humour which she drops when you least expect it.
Thank you sharing your story. Praise God!
Thanks for sharing this and for your kind words 🙏
Thanks for sharing and encouraging us to pray! Praise Jesus!
You only have to look at the way the Police removed him from his breakfast in a cafe - spraying him with pepper gas- for the sin of having his breakfast.
Of course it’s the truth! 🙄
Tommy Robinson is the most righteous man in the United Kingdom. More power to him.
Why did Gavin refer to certain rapists as "Pakistani men who happened to be Muslim"? and not "Muslim men who happened to be Pakistani" or "Men who happened to be Pakistani and Muslim" or "Persons who happened to be men and Pakistani and Muslim"? Is rapi-ness part and parcel of being Pakistani?
Why does Mrs Bennett insist on the distinction between Islam and radical Islam? Who was the ideal muslim? see Quran 33:21. What sort of Islam did Muhammad preach and practise? What did ISIS do that Muhammad didn't?
I object to Gavin's statement that Peterson has had problems with drug addiction without mentioning that they were prescribed drugs. The omission of that fact would make the natural assumption be that he was a "drug addict" of the criminal or alcoholic kind.
Pygmalion is as true now as ever of the English. They can't help but judge the value of a person by their manner of speech.
As for Tommy's fraud conviction it was for the sort of thing that happens all the time and people hardly ever get prosecuted for. It was a case of "Show me the man and I will find you the crime"
The phrases are used with deliberate echoes of the secular narrative and were meant to be heard with a degree of irony.
I do understand about Peterson’s health, and have followed the description of the difficulties he’ had with prescription painkillers, and count myself one of his most sympathetic and supportive admirers
Mrs Bennett makes a distinction between Islam and radical Islam not because she is unaware of the sliding scale linking one to the other but because Tommy Robinson makes it in his video and it is one of the ways of allowing him to defend himself against blanket Islamophobia.
Regarding Pygmalion: We must be vigilant against the T-pronouncers. That is non-negotiable.
@@DrGAshenden I think Tommy "makes the distinction" verbally but he knows there is only one islam and it is the one that goes by the moniker "radical islam".
There is a youtube entitled "Moderate vs Radical Muslim" in which a room full of muslims are asked whether they believe in the distinction.The overwhelming majority denied the distinction.
That is not to say that everyone who identifies as muslim actually knows and believes all the precepts of radical islam and is prepared to practise them.
The distinction is like that between moderate Christianity (i.e. what nominal Christians believe/do) and extreme Christianity (i.e. what saints believe and do). There are not two Christianities and a sliding scale between them. There is only one, and self-identified "Christians" circle around it at various distances from the centre. The Christian orbits around Christ. The muslim orbits around Muhammad, like a moth around a candle-flame. He orbits the flame because he is drawn towards it. It is only a matter of time before this or that Muslim catches fire and voila! a terrorist incident.
Also the doctrinal differences in Islam are not nearly as marked as in Christianity. The violent jihadist part is central to all of them (with the possible exception of the Amadiyya - who form -about 1% muslims world-wide). If you want to know what muslims really think visit the chat rooms where they talk to each other. It looks very different to what they say to outsiders.
@@DrGAshenden I missed the irony. Sorry.
Great discussion, absolutely wonderful synopsis on masculinity. Masculinity and female modesty go hand in hand.
Thank you for watching, and for your comments 🙏
Thank you for being honest and giving a fair account of Tommy.
Your account of that interview may change the minds of the middle class, and as a result may raise further awareness, and even save lives 🙏
I've followed Tommy for 15 years and he has stood up to close scrutiny from every fair minded person. I'd want him by my side if i went into a mental or physical battle. He doesn’t lead a life of religion but he is a cultural Christian who draws more toward Christianity with age, his mother is a devout Catholic from Ireland. We've clearly seen mainstream media try to demonise Farage in the last month and Tommy has always been an easier target. Bottom line is that Christianity in Britain is under threat from Islam and it's going to be more difficult to resist its subjugation if Labour bring in new blasphemy laws to prevent us shining a light on its misogyny, homophobia and Polygamy etc. We must always push for free speech or the west is doomed.
Tommy witnessed all that crucial change in his hometown from a magnified perspective, from a young age to this current day. All he has is his own observation, and the truths that he had witnessed. This is why people should pay attention to what he is saying. I used to not be against mass migration, I have always thought of it as natural as it is to nature. But when you bring in gangs, drugs, and criminals or worst terrorists. That changes everything.
The sad thing is that people complain that Robinson et al are uncouth and intimidating and therefore don’t take their complaints seriously. But think about it logically. Where else would a group of young white men arise who are prepared to take on Islamist and Pakistani counter protestors and all the gangs and shady business that involves? There is no organised church in working class communities that would take this on. There aren’t even cultural associations. All we have is the football terraces.
This whole thing is disgusting.
Great debate! Well done for speaking the truth
Today's 'Catholic Abbreviated' was notable for its almost shocking honesty. The edition deserves a much wider currency; I was repeatedly moved by the discussion and, at different points, was confronted by my own cowardice.
The UK police and judiciary are a disgrace.
I’ve never heard TR say one hateful thing.
Drug gangs, rape gangs, murder gangs, abuse gangs, slave gangs, radical religious gangs, bomber gangs, Anglophobic gangs. That is not the whole thing.
At the end of the first Patriots rally on the 1st June the Lord's Prayer was said on mass! 2nd Rally is on the 27th July, Christians should support him and the others fighting for our Christian values.
Excellent discussion. All politicians, local authorities, judiciary, and police in the UK should watch this video, listen to it properly, and re-set the way they look at this whole issue (particularly with regard to Tommy's unjust treatment in the courts, during his efforts to expose and stop the gangs). The authorities should also use this as a training video, for police and judges, to understand the full extent of the corruption that has been going on for years ... the cover-ups and the cancellation of whistleblowers ... all of which has led to the degradation and disintegration of Britain's cultural society and cohesion.
Dear girl, I am an eighty one year old great grandmother and God bless you, you have brought tears to my eyes. It's when you spoke about your dad and your conversation about how life in this country used to be. God bless you and thank you. It's all so ugly now but we will not be dismayed. I will remember what you said, reminding us what Jesus said to Pilate about truth.
'We will know the truth and the truth will set us free.' John 8:32. Amen.
Tommy Robinson is not TOXIC. Listen to what he says.
Just a question why do they want to introduce a blasphemy law for Muslims why not Christians?
Because they want to control us
As an atheist, I very much enjoyed this balanced discussion. TR is an exceptionally brave soldier, he says and does what we all want to do (but never do) He has had is problems, and no doubt, in the balance of probability, he is guilty of some of his crimes, however he stands for all of us, nothing whatsoever about religion, simply right and wrong ❤️
Name calling is just showing how afraid someone is of the truth
Tommy is VERY MUCH in his right mind. He’s one of the most solid honourable men I have ever met 💕 he has NEVER been racist. I have sent this to him.
Thank you. We need more such honourable men to stand up 🙏
Rapist or racist? Which is worse? This question needs to be answered by all of us.
Thank you for getting this video out now , before it’s too late. Personally I only first actually saw him was on Armistice day , when I first thought he was plain clothes police. Then as I watch Mayar Tousi continuous video of the day .. and then saw how the main stream media tried today he was in another part of london causing trouble , I realised how dangerous the media have become . I’m 73 years old, I now listen to all he has to say.. and as far as I know I’ve never seen him lie, or any proof that he s dangerous to the country. He’s a hero to anyone who believes in Great Britain, and want to rebuild it , and he’s certainly not right wing!
The only thing ‘toxic’ about Tommy Robinson is the filth hurled at him by msm. I have supported him for years, both morally and financially, I am proud to have done so, and I will continue to do so.
Not heard of you guys before and clicked because of Tommy Robinson. So glad I did. Great heartfelt conversation. Can highly recommend follow Tommy and to watch the Peterson interview ♥
I hear the truth. He doesn’t make things up. And to listen to Jordan and Tommy, is a privilege. I never heard of him before. Yes,he is speaking the Truth. No doubt in my heart and mind.
We are Christians and have been following Tommy and praying for him for over 10 years. We were like you, believing the media, that he was toxic, racist and portrayed as a thug. But we were aware of the issues with the rape gangs and we listened to what he had to say. I believe that what he said about your meeting was bravado, with his mates. He agreed to you praying for him, and you sowed a seed which I believe will be watered and grow. He has suffered so much for the stand he has taken and I fear what is coming to many more of us who uphold truth.
The main issue for Tommy is that he was a hooligan and also he is extremely working class, and in the UK class in everything, so he was hated (and disrespected) from day one, regardless of any point he had to make. Especially after Oct 7 2023, he is starting to get taken my seriously as people observe what is actually going on.
He is not racist, when people are young and unheard or silenced, most compassionate young people act very emotional and can make mistakes. I listen to him without prejudice and I can totally relate to his story. All people whether Christian or not should support him.
I have never heard Mr Robinson say anything even slightly controversial. That he is persona non grata is more a comment on those who pose for points, rather than Mr Robinson.
Tommy was NEVER toxic. The toxic establishment feared his revelations from the start and conspired to destroy him. They are failing.
Thank you for seeing the light. We all want the truth. It is always ok to change your mind.