GUITAR 42: Valeton GP-200 + Mvave Chocolate MIDI pedalboard
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Even if my faithful friends know me better for my "experiments" about NUX devices, I have been using some other pieces of gear, one I really like is the Valeton GP-200 which I also preferred above the NUX MG-30.
Valeton GP-200 has some MIDI communication possibilities, it is also provided of full size MIDI input and output.
With this video I am starting a 3 video mini-series where I will focus on this topic.
In this episode 1 we will focus on controlling the Valeton with an external pedal or keyboard.
In episode 2 I will show you how to use your smartphone with the same purpose
In episode 3 we will have a look at using these methods for some advanced results like using scenes.
COPYRIGHT NOTE: all Valeton, M-Vave and any other brand are sole property of their specify owners and subject to copyright laws. Avoid any abuse.
Other tutorials of this series: • Guitar (eng)
00:00 - Intro
00:48 - Valeton GP-200 + Midi pedalboard
01:25 - Tools and devices needed
06:02 - Select MIDI commands to use
11:40 - Configure Chocolate MIDI pedalboard
30:20 - Connections and Pairings
32:10 - Let's see some examples rolling
35:15 - Conclusions and Next episodes
Hi Mate! your video has helped me a lot, I just have one question, can I put two distortions? 1 distortion on the valeton footswitch and another distortion on the m vave footswitch?
Hi my friend. If you mean having the possibility to change the distortion effect through the pedal, for example between GREEN OD and OD9 too bad you can't. Built-in pedals cannot change selected effect and there is no midi command accepted by the device to switch it (great limitation compared to other machines). You still can create a different patch and switch them or work with distortion on different blocks, you still can activate independently a booster in front of the distortion to change it a lot and also select a distorted amp and use a tube screamer and also a a booster before it to get different distortion stages (my favourite sound as you can obtain strong distortion but maintain clarity). There is also a third option that is changing parameters through the knobs on the fly, in next weeks video I am planning to show some examples. Bye
@@TutoJam Thanks for the explanation friend, I will be looking forward to your video
Hello, thank you very much for the video. Is there latency time? And how did your valeton break? greetings from Chile
Hi my friend, with this method Bluetooth is used so there is latency but it seems so short I could not perceive it. My Valeton suddenly died and I still don't know the reason, but all my searches confirm it is really uncommon, this device seems to be very robust, I could find very few people reporting malfunction and I would say nothing like my case.
Thank you. Do you know if it's possible to control the valeton (with midi adaptater) with a Smartphone (for example : if i press a button on my phone, it will change a bank ?) ?
You will see it in the video going live tomorrow. ,😄
Yes :) Thank You grazie@@TutoJam
Hi. Very helpful, thanks! A question: Do you know how I would turn the "Hold" function on and off? I'm not sure how to address it with a CC or PC command. Also: the first entry in the MIDI Control Information List (in the GP-200 manual) refers to the "Bank MSB". Do you know what they are referring to, and what the values are that they list there? Thanks in advance, again, am very glad you've posted these videos!
Hi. HOLD: it is a PRE effect, you need to select it in your preset and then you can turn it on or off with MIDI but you cannot select it from MIDI, the GP-200 has no MIDI command to change the effect in a block. MSB: too long for a comment alone..
@@TutoJam Ah, thanks again! I have it a step further. I'm sending teh GP-200 MIDI messages from my iMac running MAX/MSP (a compositional environment program sold by a company here in San Francisco called Cycling74). It turns out that HOLD is actually a MOD effect. At 28-D, I made a setting called "FREEZER" that implements HOLD. So: I program MAX/MSP to use CC#23 at value 50 repeatedly to find 28-D (Or CC#22/50, and/or in combination with 26/50 or 27/50, though I haven't tried them yet). Then I strum my guitar (plugged into the GP-200) and send the GP-200 CC#54/100. Bang--HOLD turns on. If I send it CC#54/50, it turns it off. Yeah!
So, I need to write a little program to have MAX/MSP search for the 28-D position and stop when it finds it, and then I can program it--and similarly, any of the effects--from my computer.
It would be great if I could just give it the effect address without multiple sendings of CC# 23 and 24 etc., though. If you know how to do that, please let me know. But you've been really helpful; thanks again.
OK, GOT IT! I guessed what the "BANK MSB" was. It does exactly what I wanted: jumps directly to the effect address. So I send it CC#0 and PC#111 (which I found through trial and error) and it jumps immediately to 28-D, where my "FREEZER" is. Fantastic!
Thanks for the video! Is GP-200 become daily multi effect you used?
Yep, but mine just died. I am looking for replacing it
@@TutoJam oh nooo! Replacing with another brand?
Currently I have available a NUX MG-30 that is great, for home or studio use it is far superior to the Valeton but for stage use the Valeton in unbeatable.. I would like to purchase the Valeton again as I was refunded by Amazon but I purchased it at 280€ while now it costs 360...
Hi! I dont own a valeton gp 200 but i have the gp100. Im having a problem with my C and D switches, it is in momentary mode rather than latch mode and i dont know how to turn it off.. Do you know a solution for this?
I am sorry I am not familiar with the 100. If it is similar to the 200 you shall find the option for switching between latch and temporary under "general settings --> Footswitch" or something similar
I'm sorry for the lot of questions but what's the difference, in midi, between PC and CC commands ?
Thank you
Hi. Mainly PC are only on/off signals while CC are bearing a value between 0-127. So the PC are perfect for toggles like turning on or off an effect, CC are better for example to set a volume level. Valeton uses only CC even if it has mainly on/off options
Thank You i get it / your explanation are very clear. I'm on the video number 2and it s very useful :)@@TutoJam
Ciao. Ottimo video complimenti. Però ho un problema. Ho la versione lt quindi non ho gli attacchi a 5 pin e uso il ricevitore usb che collego all'ingresso usb type c. Sulla valeton ho attivato lingresso usb. Ma non funziona. Puoi aiutarmi a capire il problema?
Ciao, purtroppo pare non funzioni. Ho provato in diversi modi ma tramite usb non va. Penso sia una questione di usb host, infatti i segnali midi mandati da pc arrivano. Ho lo stesso problema con molti dispositivi, l'unica eccezione finora e' la nux MG-30 che si identifica come usb host. La migliore opzione per te secondo me è usare degli adattatori da 5pin a jack ed usare le porte midi
Excuse me, do you know how to assign E and F ?
thank you (ABCD work fine with your instructions, i use to activate CTRL2/3/4/5)
Hi. You cannot use E and F to assign a MIDI message. They can only be used for switching banks in modality "program change"
Thank you for your response :)@@TutoJam
can u make a video valeton control midi patch cahnge of other procesor
Hi my friend, thank-you for reaching out, could you elaborate? I am not sure I understood your need.
@@TutoJam i want the valeton to send midi change presets to my boss jx 700
@user-ee2jm7pl4p oh well that is quite easy, switch the valeton to MIDI mode (see the manual) and you can set the messages to send when a pedal is passed or the expression pedal is moved. It is a little limited but can be done. I could make a video for sure.
does that midi controlller also works on the GP-200 LT version too?
It should but you will need a 5 pin to jack adapter
@@TutoJam why do i need 5 pin to jack adapter? the Midi input on the LT is similiar to 3.5 jack... so that's that mean i need to use 6.35 to 3.5? which is the 6.35 goes to 3,5 midi input?
So you are planning on using a cable? If you want to use the MS1 it needs 5 pin connectors that the LT does not have.
@@TutoJam yeah, i wonder can i use the pedal jack on the mvave ? so i planned use TS to 3.5 in
@raadi5939 now it is more clear. Too bad I do not know the answer to this question, you will need to try for yourself, I'm sorry
Hi i can't find cube suite on the playstore. Where i can find it?
Hi. As mentioned in the video check this one ua-cam.com/video/aB6uvAmXCYY/v-deo.htmlsi=Ixkr-kcXd42NtJ3I
This works with gp 200 jr in usb c port?
Too bad I cannot test it as I do not own the JR but when I tried with the regular GP-200 it was not working even if they report it as supporting MIDI through USB, I am expecting this to be due to missing USB host (a PC) in the connection. GP-200 is not working as USB host. Sorry I cannot help more than this.