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Haha love it when you say you prefer more parameters but don't know what they do on the POD. For me less is best otherwise I'd just keep dickin' round instead of creating. I can always eq, add more effects etc. in post recording. That's once I decide what to buy. Thanks, great vid.
Thanks man!!! Im a gp200 user and it is not easy to find quilified review for high gain! This thing is really good one! But doesnt have enough delay rverb thing for ambient style sound. Whatever, pg200 sound is enough for pro-level users!
Just got the Valeton. You have to faff about and import your own IR’s ( very easy to do) but once you do, it’s great. Having used these type of things in the past, there’s less option paralysis than in many. The pod go looks like I’d spend a week fiddling, but not actually get much, if any advantage. The dsp running out of legs was a big minus for me. Ymmv
@@mush182 yeah, sure. PM me you email and ill send you My Pete thorn ones. by far the best i've found. I have hundreds , but i always come back to this.
It's usually hard to find someone who will cover the heavier aspects when it comes to amps, amp sims, even modelers, without having to go to the few channels who do so, but boy did you cover all the bases and showcase exactly what someone who plays heavier music might need, even down to the 5150 Vs VH4 vs Dual Rec. Definitely earned a sub and a like from me \m/
Pod go's snapshot feature is really nice but the fact the valeton has dedicated controls for all the amp settings wins it for me, they've both got more features than you'd ever need but I hate going through menus to fine tune the amp plus the price on the valeton is insane for how good it sounds.
@@katakres295nope, Valeton has 6 physical knobs you can tweak just straight from whatever patch you select, without clicking and going into menus, just like that, your hand straight to the knobs as if you were using an actual amp, which pod go doesn’t have
Great vid & it kept my attention all the way through (even though I'm a classic rock/blues not metal/chug player). Since this Vid the GP200 has had some upgrades (its now on v1.40) and the Pod Go has had a MAJOR upgrade with v2.0 that incorporates a new cab engine and 33 new IR cabs plus new amp/effect models. I have the Pod Go & I like it for home use or if I have to travel light, but for most gigging I'm still using my 'old tech' Vox Tonelab SE and LE units. Yes there's tons in Pod Go, but on stage I need to keep things simple. The TL's have real knobs, dials and switches, are built like tanks, have a gig worthy heavy duty cabled PSUs with mid cable transformer & on/off switch. And tonally the TL's feel and respond much more like a valve amp due to its clever valve-reactor design that uses a 12AX7 valve as a power valve, even compared to many modern units like Pod Go. The big issue for me is that Pod Go is awkward to use/tweak live because its simply too menu driven and too complicated, and its limitation of up to 4 user blocks is a nuisance. In a typical patch I'd want a reverb, delay, modulation, distortion & compressor. I can do this if I use a modified JSON patch - I have a 5 user block template where I sacrifice the fx loop and a 6 user block template where I also sacrifice the wah. I really don't need two distortions or two reverbs etc, and although snapshots are fine in theory, for gigging I prefer staying in stomp mode and patch changing using an external double momentary footswitch. Now, although the Tonelab options are limited and I can select only one option from the reverb, modulation, delay & pedal sections, I can change the amp or fx model in a second by turning a dial and I have real knobs to tweak the fx or amp if needed. What I like about the Valeton GP200 is that for gigging, it has some really nice features that solve some of the Pod Go's gigging limitation issues for me, including: Built in XLR balanced outs (as well as non-balanced outs) MIDI Groundlift Staggered footswitches - such a simple solution to make switching much easier Dedicated amp controls (this was a feature I really liked in the Zoom G11) but parameter options are more basic than eg Pod Go Dedicated buttons to access each section quickly (modulation, reverb, delay etc) (a feature I really liked in the Mooer GE300) Globally accessible looper Built in drum machine (basic, but still a nice extra to jam to & drums can be looped too) Initial & wait modes for footswitches - brilliant for teeing up something whilst you're playing Cab off setting (global) Patch level meter 180 sec looper Customizable Display Mode (3 modes) Magnify the patch names and numbers (great option for gigging). 1000mA (a sensible power requirement, unlike the Pod Go) All metal construction But for customer support, Line 6 have a really strong set-up & reputation.
While I mostly agree with your final thoughts I do think the GP200 looks WAY better, though. Has a really solid and sturdy design. The higher foot switches on the upper row are also a nice little touch which helps in live situations. I also think the output features of the GP200 might really be a factor for a lot of players looking for a unit to use in live situations. Balanced outputs are a nice thing after all. :) Great video and amazing playing, as always.
Thank you for this review, really impressed with the value & build/sound quality of these units. At first I thought only being able to use one of each effects style in the chain would bother me but then I remembered how I used to absolutely drive myself crazy with weird patches of multiple pedals doing stuff in pod farm haha!
@@ocalaoficial Yes. Only one type effect per "effect group" - per preset. Only small drawback I see on this unit. It might be a huge deal for someone, or it might not be.
To be honest for the price gap i got the valeton. Infact i ordered one 2 days ago. And if you don't look at the video and just listen they sound the same in the shootout. I know someone will say they don't but i call bs. Just kill the monitor and listen and i bet if you did it blind noone would be able to tell you the 2 back and forth.
I think that they are both good pedals I have the Valeton GP 200 I feel it’s more friendly user compared to the Pod Go but either one you can’t really go wrong! Great video we really enjoyed it and value your honest opinion! Thank you 😎🎸🤘
TAYLOR - liked and subscribed - Thanks for the time and effort for the comparison ! Both units sound pretty exact - You said the Line 6 can run out of memory - but I probably will never have that problem. I will get the Line 6 Pod Go Wireless - which will help a lot - Thanks !
Two years plus since I have gone L6 Helix format with a power amps and cabs. I run a mono wet dry setup for my main set-up. I still love tube amps but this is just so easy and so much to offer in one unit. I have been 100% happy which is crazy.. 😂 Both of these sounds good and might get a 200 for another flavor for home.
I just picked up the Valeton GP 200 for under $290 (US). For that sort of money, I don't think you can go wrong. In fact, at $350, I still think you can't go wrong... especially if you are on a budget and can't swing the $500 for the POD Go. They both sound great!
I guess that memory was a way to explain it, but just being that guy, the DSP usage is more about processing capacity. When your fx take more time to process than the processor is capable of delivering to the D/A buffer in time, you'll have all sorts of clicks and cracking and horrible sounds. So the pedalboard avoids it not allowing you to stack more than it can bite.
Both sounded good, I'm more into the sound that they put out. So pricing wise obviously it's the GP200. For 100 more I believe Valeton can do the same job as the Pod Go.
Imo Valeton is better because it’s cheaper and it sounds identical to premium pedalboards and actual amps and stomp boxes, and the equalisation thing can be solved with global equalisation in the unit and also the multiple Eq’s you get in the built in fx loop
Obviously, this guy is a pod go guy, but I got myself the GP 200 and love it! I don’t like digging around all day I like to plug in and get to business!
apparently on the gp-200lt you can move the signal chain around now... "Thanks to the 11 effect modules that can function simultaneously, the GP-200LT can achieve anything you want on your pedalboard. You can also adjust and move the effect sequence, commanding your tones winding around." would be cool to see a revisit of this modeler with the software being used, could be a fun toy for my desk, even though i have a helix, headrush prime and tonex... maybe have a gear addiction. 😂 saw one of these pop up for $150 and may try to get it, models sound muffled 2 years ago so maybe won't... unless it's better now. 🤔
just a tiny IT-guys comment, DSP is the processing power of the CPU, not the available memory, same like your desktop computer, where you would get dropouts if CPU is too high, so they prevent this by preventing you adding FX. Got me myself the Valeton, since I read a lot of time that the Pod Go is quite CPU restricted, AND it was half-price to the Line6
I might be biased and have had every multifx modelers line 6 has ever made pods/Hx Helix Rack, Pod go wireless, native, but the Pod Go just plain sounds better IMHO 🤔.
Was there any updates for the Pod Go ? I know a lot of people talking about 3 years ago that the cab´s was not the best, people was installing different cab IR´s, to get it sound better, I know Ola Englund had to do it too and it sounded really good.. after all.. I think a good cab IR is 80% of the sound.. Thanks for the video..
Love your videos man. Just found your channel recently but I'm loving all the content. When you're testing out these amp modelers and cab sims are you going straight into an interface?
Depends on the video, but in shootouts like this with modelers, yes… straight into the interface with no post processing so you can hear what’s going on with the modeler.
all the Line 6 productas are inclined to Heavy metal music, as an overall i think. i have the same diference in sound in the pod hd 500 gama pedalboards, the pod hd 500 its the best to chug from that price tier
Both sound awesome, but Valeton sounded a bit muffled though it has more low end. Dual Rectifier on POD Go sounded too harsh and fizzy, however... I'm a big Mooer fan, I think they're now the "poor's man Helix" (at least here in Brazil where prices are ridiculously high)... It'd be nice a shootout with Mooer and Boss units ! Cheers from Brazil ! 🇧🇷
Hey you said the IR was down in the description but I don’t see it?!?! lol… please share your presets and The IR if you would…. They sound pretty dang good!!! I like how you did the song at the end switching the two units I really couldn’t tell much difference at all… I do on a Helix but I picked up the Valeton GP-200 last week for $289 to use at church
As he is only using the Katana and cab for monitoring what we hear is not influensed by that in any way and of course he is not using any cab emulation in the modelers just IR´s in the DAW as he said.
Thanks for the video. My main question is on assigning. I'd like to be able to set the top or bottom row to select 4 patches within a bank then have the other row to add effects for patch, eg boost or phaser etc. Ideally, each patch would have it's own effects assigned. It looks like you can do that but is that right?
The Line6 sounds good (better harmonic content which is more 'realistic'), but the lack of DSP is a real let down. Even the HX Stomp is starved for DSP next to its similarly priced competition. "Complex signal chains" are the true strength of modelers over traditional gear. You don't see lots of gigging musicians with stereo Marshall/Boogie rigs (for example) because its expensive and impractical, not because it does not sound good.
I agree, but I also think there are a lot of guitar players that look for something like a POD GO and really only want to use a preamp, couple of effects and a wah into a solid state power amp and a cab
Hi Taylor! Did you tried the pitch shiter in the gp200? That is an important feature for me, I have already tried the line 6 shifter in a hx stomp, but not in a valenton device. I only drop 2 o 3 semitones max
All these reviews tell you what the unit can do (with add ons such as the IR he used) but it doesn't show you what they do out of the box which is how a lot of people buying this would be doing in the beginning, (because they don't yet know what an IR even is) so yes it is great for us that know but misleading for those who don't.
We buy the valonton 200 cos I said it was the best sound U have heard .now U saying the line 6 is better. Which is it. Now I need to sell and buy again get ya shit together bro
Hi and thank you very much for this cool video. can you tell me how this units deal with downtuning? My experiences are the most of this digital units can not handle my 6 steps down drop tuning so well
Taylor can you help me out? I bought the Pod Go and the ML Impulse response and using your settings there's a huge discrepancy between the tone I'm getting vs. the tone in the shootout examples. Were you using a custom IR of your cab or perhaps mic'd your actual Oversized Mesa cab?
Good question, long time since I've made this video, but I used to change up impulse responses from ML quite a bit. The main ones I used were from the Mega Oversize, Mega traditional, and Mega Djent packs. I very rarely used the actual IR's, just the premixed ones (the ones that have names like ominous and notorious). Very unlikely I was using something other than one of those here. Hope that helps.
I had both units to compare before actually buying one and the impressions from your video do not match with my own. Are you sure that there wasn't some kind of master-EQ activated on the GP-200 that was dampening the high-end? It sounds pretty muffled which I can't say from the GP-200 that I have here (yeah, I bought the GP-200 in the end...). In the video, the POD Go sounds more transparent and has more bite to it, no doubt about that.
They both have a dryness that's hard to get past. However, that could be a sound one could go for, especially if that's highly technical. Yes, more chug battles. Request, Headrush vs Line6.
I loved the Pod Go until I tried running an analog overdrive pedal in the fx loop. Tried everything i could think of and nothing but hiss. The noise gate had no affect on an external pedal in the loop. Tried a few pedals too. So I have the GP200 coming soon. If that does the same thing I guess it's back to the dang drawing board :(
Nope. The GP-200 does the same thing without the flexibility of moving the FX Loop around like in the Pod Go. Sending it back. Great little unit and worth the price but didn't do what I had hoped. Looks like I'm just going to have to run my pedal in front of the Pod Go. Not going to keep buying more multi X units and send them back :(
@@daidiary4748 Actually I discovered something after being put in this dilemma. I found that the Pod Go takes high gain pedals great as long as you go directly into the "guitar input". It doesn't make sense how the noise gate works having the high gain pedal "before" the noise gate as the Pod Go is designed with the noise gate "before" all of the high gain blocks within the Pod Go. But as long as I don't have it in the fx loop, I get no hiss or noise. weird. I wanted the analog overdrive pedal to be after the digital distortion in the pod so it would cut through more with the band but having the digital distortion in the Pod Go after the analog distortion pedal still sounded fantastic so I'm all set now :)
Can you do the 4-cable method with the gp200 can you use other pedals with it? I have a looper, od, tc.e sentry gate, distortion and reverb/delay pedal I'd like to have on my board with it. I such at signal chains especially with this in the mix.
There are 3 types of youtuber that're doing reviews on the Line 6 Pod Go, Valeton gp 200, Nux Mg 30 and Mooer ge 250:- 1. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200 2. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200 3. You. It's so obvious that somebody is being paid here..
mmmmmm well... This was not a fair comparison what so ever, next time you're comparing units, I think its better if your comments are just neutral between one and the other... It kinda felt as if you were already predisposed to have people to like the Pod Go over the Valeton since the beginning. I could tell by your body language, face expressions and enthusiasm while talking about the Pod Go, it is different when talking about the Valeton..... You were even smiling while reviewing the Pod Go, since the beginning... !!!! I dont know... i didn't like this comparison At All, it felt as Misleading!!!.... Sorry, I'm just being as sadisticly Honest as you portrait to be in your videos! Both units sound extremely great anyway!
The one big difference is the price, pod go is $200 more , I got mine for $200 on black Friday also ordered a solar guitar, pedal arrived, just waiting on the guitar.
This is because this guy is just another generic elitist prick. Obviously he is going to be biased on the premise of the more expensive = superior in any way.
Great video! Thanks for going into detaill. So, is it possible to use the Valeton thru an EVH Amp for effects only - no amp, cab? I like the EVH alot, so I'd wanna use it as a traditional Multi-Effects pedal. 🤘
Another fantastic video, you even played some clean-er sounds Im there. I wish you would show what it sounds like playing jazz and blues though. Or maybe some surf tones. (Lulz) But honestly, the GP200 (I’ve owned the GP100 and the POD GO) sounds…cheap. The pod go swept this under the rug imo.
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Absolutely hate the A B C D button layout on the POD Go. Much more prefer the "straight across the bottom" pattern on the Valeton.
Haha love it when you say you prefer more parameters but don't know what they do on the POD. For me less is best otherwise I'd just keep dickin' round instead of creating. I can always eq, add more effects etc. in post recording. That's once I decide what to buy. Thanks, great vid.
Thanks man!!! Im a gp200 user and it is not easy to find quilified review for high gain! This thing is really good one! But doesnt have enough delay rverb thing for ambient style sound. Whatever, pg200 sound is enough for pro-level users!
Just got the Valeton. You have to faff about and import your own IR’s ( very easy to do) but once you do, it’s great. Having used these type of things in the past, there’s less option paralysis than in many. The pod go looks like I’d spend a week fiddling, but not actually get much, if any advantage. The dsp running out of legs was a big minus for me. Ymmv
Hey mate. Just got mine. Fancy chatting about IRs etc etc.
@@mush182 yeah, sure. PM me you email and ill send you My Pete thorn ones. by far the best i've found. I have hundreds , but i always come back to this.
It's usually hard to find someone who will cover the heavier aspects when it comes to amps, amp sims, even modelers, without having to go to the few channels who do so, but boy did you cover all the bases and showcase exactly what someone who plays heavier music might need, even down to the 5150 Vs VH4 vs Dual Rec.
Definitely earned a sub and a like from me \m/
Pod go's snapshot feature is really nice but the fact the valeton has dedicated controls for all the amp settings wins it for me, they've both got more features than you'd ever need but I hate going through menus to fine tune the amp plus the price on the valeton is insane for how good it sounds.
It was the pod go that had dedicated amp settings.
@@katakres295nope, Valeton has 6 physical knobs you can tweak just straight from whatever patch you select, without clicking and going into menus, just like that, your hand straight to the knobs as if you were using an actual amp, which pod go doesn’t have
Great vid & it kept my attention all the way through (even though I'm a classic rock/blues not metal/chug player). Since this Vid the GP200 has had some upgrades (its now on v1.40) and the Pod Go has had a MAJOR upgrade with v2.0 that incorporates a new cab engine and 33 new IR cabs plus new amp/effect models.
I have the Pod Go & I like it for home use or if I have to travel light, but for most gigging I'm still using my 'old tech' Vox Tonelab SE and LE units. Yes there's tons in Pod Go, but on stage I need to keep things simple. The TL's have real knobs, dials and switches, are built like tanks, have a gig worthy heavy duty cabled PSUs with mid cable transformer & on/off switch. And tonally the TL's feel and respond much more like a valve amp due to its clever valve-reactor design that uses a 12AX7 valve as a power valve, even compared to many modern units like Pod Go.
The big issue for me is that Pod Go is awkward to use/tweak live because its simply too menu driven and too complicated, and its limitation of up to 4 user blocks is a nuisance. In a typical patch I'd want a reverb, delay, modulation, distortion & compressor. I can do this if I use a modified JSON patch - I have a 5 user block template where I sacrifice the fx loop and a 6 user block template where I also sacrifice the wah. I really don't need two distortions or two reverbs etc, and although snapshots are fine in theory, for gigging I prefer staying in stomp mode and patch changing using an external double momentary footswitch. Now, although the Tonelab options are limited and I can select only one option from the reverb, modulation, delay & pedal sections, I can change the amp or fx model in a second by turning a dial and I have real knobs to tweak the fx or amp if needed.
What I like about the Valeton GP200 is that for gigging, it has some really nice features that solve some of the Pod Go's gigging limitation issues for me, including:
Built in XLR balanced outs (as well as non-balanced outs)
MIDI
Groundlift
Staggered footswitches - such a simple solution to make switching much easier
Dedicated amp controls (this was a feature I really liked in the Zoom G11) but parameter options are more basic than eg Pod Go
Dedicated buttons to access each section quickly (modulation, reverb, delay etc) (a feature I really liked in the Mooer GE300)
Globally accessible looper
Built in drum machine (basic, but still a nice extra to jam to & drums can be looped too)
Initial & wait modes for footswitches - brilliant for teeing up something whilst you're playing
Cab off setting (global)
Patch level meter
180 sec looper
Customizable Display Mode (3 modes)
Magnify the patch names and numbers (great option for gigging).
1000mA (a sensible power requirement, unlike the Pod Go)
All metal construction
But for customer support, Line 6 have a really strong set-up & reputation.
Both sound great, i'll take the Valeton please 😎
While I mostly agree with your final thoughts I do think the GP200 looks WAY better, though. Has a really solid and sturdy design. The higher foot switches on the upper row are also a nice little touch which helps in live situations. I also think the output features of the GP200 might really be a factor for a lot of players looking for a unit to use in live situations. Balanced outputs are a nice thing after all. :)
Great video and amazing playing, as always.
I’m glad to see this shoot out. I have the POD Go.
I like to see it up against the stuff that is coming out to compete. It seems to hold up.
Pod go Is so underrated. The guy from Berried Alive has been using pod go for years and he is unreal
Using the Mesa 5 band EQ (which is in built) after the amp section in the Valeton GP 200 makes a huge difference.
How do you do this ?
I have a boogie and want soft effects through the effects and overdrive through the front.
@@careypaterson5247 four cable method, you can check out there's lot of videos about it
Thank you for this review, really impressed with the value & build/sound quality of these units.
At first I thought only being able to use one of each effects style in the chain would bother me but then I remembered how I used to absolutely drive myself crazy with weird patches of multiple pedals doing stuff in pod farm haha!
what is it like? i can use only 1 reverb, 1 delay, 1 chorus, 1 etc. like that?
@@ocalaoficial Yes. Only one type effect per "effect group" - per preset.
Only small drawback I see on this unit. It might be a huge deal for someone, or it might not be.
To be honest for the price gap i got the valeton. Infact i ordered one 2 days ago. And if you don't look at the video and just listen they sound the same in the shootout. I know someone will say they don't but i call bs. Just kill the monitor and listen and i bet if you did it blind noone would be able to tell you the 2 back and forth.
I think that they are both good pedals I have the Valeton GP 200 I feel it’s more friendly user compared to the Pod Go but either one you can’t really go wrong! Great video we really enjoyed it and value your honest opinion! Thank you 😎🎸🤘
TAYLOR - liked and subscribed - Thanks for the time and effort for the comparison ! Both units sound pretty exact -
You said the Line 6 can run out of memory - but I probably will never have that problem.
I will get the Line 6 Pod Go Wireless - which will help a lot - Thanks !
Taylor your videos get better and better mate. I've had the Pod for a while now but that A/B shootout at the end of the video was fantastic.
Two years plus since I have gone L6 Helix format with a power amps and cabs. I run a mono wet dry setup for my main set-up. I still love tube amps but this is just so easy and so much to offer in one unit. I have been 100% happy which is crazy.. 😂 Both of these sounds good and might get a 200 for another flavor for home.
I just picked up the Valeton GP 200 for under $290 (US). For that sort of money, I don't think you can go wrong. In fact, at $350, I still think you can't go wrong... especially if you are on a budget and can't swing the $500 for the POD Go. They both sound great!
how'd you get that price?
@@AhsanKhanFoto found it listed online thru Walmart. The only caveat was that it was the Red model. The black unit was more expensive
@@AhsanKhanFoto maybe too late but eBay has them for 270 right now black or red.
whats the difference between red or black?
@@nickpapagiorgio8038
Valeton for live: POD for recording. Two decent, reasonably priced units. Of the two, I kept the Valeton as I don't really record.
That gp-200 sounds sick as well 😮 🤘
I guess that memory was a way to explain it, but just being that guy, the DSP usage is more about processing capacity. When your fx take more time to process than the processor is capable of delivering to the D/A buffer in time, you'll have all sorts of clicks and cracking and horrible sounds. So the pedalboard avoids it not allowing you to stack more than it can bite.
If you're worried about what a sub-second patch change lag sounds like to a live audience, you've probably never attended a concert.
Thank you for being a death/thrash oriented channel.
Both sounded good, I'm more into the sound that they put out. So pricing wise obviously it's the GP200. For 100 more I believe Valeton can do the same job as the Pod Go.
Absolutely crushing on both
🤘💀🤘🎸🎶🖤
Had my pod go for about 7 months now,and still having fun with it.
Imo Valeton is better because it’s cheaper and it sounds identical to premium pedalboards and actual amps and stomp boxes, and the equalisation thing can be solved with global equalisation in the unit and also the multiple Eq’s you get in the built in fx loop
Obviously, this guy is a pod go guy, but I got myself the GP 200 and love it! I don’t like digging around all day I like to plug in and get to business!
damn homie! the best part was those badass programmed drums! FUKING-A and the guitars were sick as well :)
I like them both over the g3. They soubd like they layer well too. I like the valetron sound a little bit more.
Very good work. Thanks.
Im waiting this chug battle... Nice
very insightful!
apparently on the gp-200lt you can move the signal chain around now...
"Thanks to the 11 effect modules that can function simultaneously, the GP-200LT can achieve anything you want on your pedalboard. You can also adjust and move the effect sequence, commanding your tones winding around."
would be cool to see a revisit of this modeler with the software being used, could be a fun toy for my desk, even though i have a helix, headrush prime and tonex... maybe have a gear addiction. 😂 saw one of these pop up for $150 and may try to get it, models sound muffled 2 years ago so maybe won't... unless it's better now. 🤔
Chug Life, gotta love it. Both sounded pretty good but I agree that the pod go is better. I think I made my decision.
just a tiny IT-guys comment, DSP is the processing power of the CPU, not the available memory, same like your desktop computer, where you would get dropouts if CPU is too high, so they prevent this by preventing you adding FX. Got me myself the Valeton, since I read a lot of time that the Pod Go is quite CPU restricted, AND it was half-price to the Line6
I love the Helix software in my daw, but for what it does, I love the Valeton physical device. Seems like you can't really go wrong, though.
I might be biased and have had every multifx modelers line 6 has ever made pods/Hx Helix Rack, Pod go wireless, native, but the Pod Go just plain sounds better IMHO 🤔.
Really? I was just about to buy the wireless one.... damn
Was there any updates for the Pod Go ? I know a lot of people talking about 3 years ago that the cab´s was not the best, people was installing different cab IR´s, to get it sound better, I know Ola Englund had to do it too and it sounded really good.. after all.. I think a good cab IR is 80% of the sound.. Thanks for the video..
Line 6 POD Go Win... Next can Valeton GP200 VS Nux MG-30 And Other Modeler
Love your videos man. Just found your channel recently but I'm loving all the content. When you're testing out these amp modelers and cab sims are you going straight into an interface?
Depends on the video, but in shootouts like this with modelers, yes… straight into the interface with no post processing so you can hear what’s going on with the modeler.
O liked more Valeton, I though POD Very fizzy sound
Sorry I don't see IR you used, any link under the vid. Btw: DSP is not amount of memory but CPU Power. Thanks for the effort! Sounds amazing!
I thought it was pretty savage myself. Would be nice to have a link for sure.
all the Line 6 productas are inclined to Heavy metal music, as an overall i think. i have the same diference in sound in the pod hd 500 gama pedalboards, the pod hd 500 its the best to chug from that price tier
The valeton has better connectivity options. You have to take that into consideration when spending the money for a pod go...
The Pod Go isn’t as good as it’s made out, tried one and wasn’t impressed
Both sound awesome, but Valeton sounded a bit muffled though it has more low end.
Dual Rectifier on POD Go sounded too harsh and fizzy, however...
I'm a big Mooer fan, I think they're now the "poor's man Helix" (at least here in Brazil where prices are ridiculously high)... It'd be nice a shootout with Mooer and Boss units !
Cheers from Brazil ! 🇧🇷
GE 300?
@@coppulor6500 That's right, good sir
I favour the Pod Go, but I’m impressed by how well the GP200 holds up in comparison even with its Pod X3-like limitations with the blocks.
Hey you said the IR was down in the description but I don’t see it?!?! lol… please share your presets and The IR if you would…. They sound pretty dang good!!! I like how you did the song at the end switching the two units I really couldn’t tell much difference at all… I do on a Helix but I picked up the Valeton GP-200 last week for $289 to use at church
While the katana isn’t coloring the sound the v30s in the cab are. Running an IR on top of it makes for an interesting comparison
As he is only using the Katana and cab for monitoring what we hear is not influensed by that in any way and of course he is not using any cab emulation in the modelers just IR´s in the DAW as he said.
@@Stefan- ahhh gotchya, makes sense now. It lists what cab/IR is being used in the corner of each demo. My b ha
Thanks for the video. My main question is on assigning. I'd like to be able to set the top or bottom row to select 4 patches within a bank then have the other row to add effects for patch, eg boost or phaser etc. Ideally, each patch would have it's own effects assigned. It looks like you can do that but is that right?
My daily driver is HX, but to me, with those settings, the Valeton sounded a little tighter \m/
I have to agree. After several listens to the showdown, the GP 200's Dual Rec settings were thick, dark and brutal af
I too think the distortion sounds more brutal on the gp-200 🤭🤫 im a pod go owner too
I thought the line 6 had a little bit more presence. But both sounded great👍
So do you need an amp head for this or just the cab?
The Line6 sounds good (better harmonic content which is more 'realistic'), but the lack of DSP is a real let down.
Even the HX Stomp is starved for DSP next to its similarly priced competition.
"Complex signal chains" are the true strength of modelers over traditional gear.
You don't see lots of gigging musicians with stereo Marshall/Boogie rigs (for example) because its expensive and impractical, not because it does not sound good.
I agree, but I also think there are a lot of guitar players that look for something like a POD GO and really only want to use a preamp, couple of effects and a wah into a solid state power amp and a cab
You can say what you want Line 6 is a killer brand!
what if i could score a gp OR a pod go at the same price? what would u guys do?
Me encanta la Valeton. Tiene poder.😊
Hi Taylor! Did you tried the pitch shiter in the gp200? That is an important feature for me, I have already tried the line 6 shifter in a hx stomp, but not in a valenton device. I only drop 2 o 3 semitones max
Btw what are you using to prop the pod go up at an angle? I had to make mine out of wood. Sturdy but bulky 😂
Which do you think is the better pedal as looking at both of these
DSP is not a memory - DSP is a special kind of processor (Digital Signal Processor)
The demo song would go very well with the Killing Floor games! Tripwire should hire you to make some tracks for KF3
Where do I get your irs?
All these reviews tell you what the unit can do (with add ons such as the IR he used) but it doesn't show you what they do out of the box which is how a lot of people buying this would be doing in the beginning, (because they don't yet know what an IR even is) so yes it is great for us that know but misleading for those who don't.
We buy the valonton 200 cos I said it was the best sound U have heard .now U saying the line 6 is better. Which is it. Now I need to sell and buy again get ya shit together bro
Hi and thank you very much for this cool video. can you tell me how this units deal with downtuning?
My experiences are the most of this digital units can not handle my 6 steps down drop tuning so well
But valeton have xlr out, and midi in out
Taylor can you help me out? I bought the Pod Go and the ML Impulse response and using your settings there's a huge discrepancy between the tone I'm getting vs. the tone in the shootout examples. Were you using a custom IR of your cab or perhaps mic'd your actual Oversized Mesa cab?
Good question, long time since I've made this video, but I used to change up impulse responses from ML quite a bit. The main ones I used were from the Mega Oversize, Mega traditional, and Mega Djent packs. I very rarely used the actual IR's, just the premixed ones (the ones that have names like ominous and notorious). Very unlikely I was using something other than one of those here. Hope that helps.
@@TaylorDanley Thanks for replying. It was one of the Mega Djent Impulses, the 57 D.
I had both units to compare before actually buying one and the impressions from your video do not match with my own. Are you sure that there wasn't some kind of master-EQ activated on the GP-200 that was dampening the high-end? It sounds pretty muffled which I can't say from the GP-200 that I have here (yeah, I bought the GP-200 in the end...).
In the video, the POD Go sounds more transparent and has more bite to it, no doubt about that.
They both have a dryness that's hard to get past. However, that could be a sound one could go for, especially if that's highly technical.
Yes, more chug battles. Request, Headrush vs Line6.
I did that! ua-cam.com/video/N0utmiIiddA/v-deo.html
Where did you get the table top stand for the effects pedal?
Both sound great but the podgo does seem a little better for the money. \m/
I loved the Pod Go until I tried running an analog overdrive pedal in the fx loop. Tried everything i could think of and nothing but hiss. The noise gate had no affect on an external pedal in the loop. Tried a few pedals too. So I have the GP200 coming soon. If that does the same thing I guess it's back to the dang drawing board :(
Nope. The GP-200 does the same thing without the flexibility of moving the FX Loop around like in the Pod Go. Sending it back. Great little unit and worth the price but didn't do what I had hoped. Looks like I'm just going to have to run my pedal in front of the Pod Go. Not going to keep buying more multi X units and send them back :(
@@emach07 so you are now back at your drawing board?
@@daidiary4748 Actually I discovered something after being put in this dilemma. I found that the Pod Go takes high gain pedals great as long as you go directly into the "guitar input". It doesn't make sense how the noise gate works having the high gain pedal "before" the noise gate as the Pod Go is designed with the noise gate "before" all of the high gain blocks within the Pod Go.
But as long as I don't have it in the fx loop, I get no hiss or noise. weird. I wanted the analog overdrive pedal to be after the digital distortion in the pod so it would cut through more with the band but having the digital distortion in the Pod Go after the analog distortion pedal still sounded fantastic so I'm all set now :)
Can you do the 4-cable method with the gp200 can you use other pedals with it? I have a looper, od, tc.e sentry gate, distortion and reverb/delay pedal I'd like to have on my board with it. I such at signal chains especially with this in the mix.
DSP stands for memory? Not exactly accurate but ok
i think the Pod may go
Chugolicious..what is it about passive pickups that you don't like...?...line 6 sounds better..tighter
It’s not that I don’t like passive pickups, the EMG set I use is just what I prefer.
There are 3 types of youtuber that're doing reviews on the Line 6 Pod Go, Valeton gp 200, Nux Mg 30 and Mooer ge 250:-
1. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200
2. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200
3. You.
It's so obvious that somebody is being paid here..
I’ve actually never worked with line 6, but I have worked with Valeton 🤷♂️
It was a very fair comparison. One of them just didn't measure up to the other.
hey man how to get your preset for valeton gp 200, please
i think the Pod GO wins this one hands down. The Valeton still sounds good, but it's just not at that level.
Do BOSS GX-100 please
Line 6 pod go indeed
mmmmmm well... This was not a fair comparison what so ever, next time you're comparing units, I think its better if your comments are just neutral between one and the other... It kinda felt as if you were already predisposed to have people to like the Pod Go over the Valeton since the beginning. I could tell by your body language, face expressions and enthusiasm while talking about the Pod Go, it is different when talking about the Valeton..... You were even smiling while reviewing the Pod Go, since the beginning... !!!! I dont know... i didn't like this comparison At All, it felt as Misleading!!!.... Sorry, I'm just being as sadisticly Honest as you portrait to be in your videos! Both units sound extremely great anyway!
I don't think it makes it unfair. If he prefers one unit to another that should be part of his review.
The one big difference is the price, pod go is $200 more , I got mine for $200 on black Friday also ordered a solar guitar, pedal arrived, just waiting on the guitar.
@@lucyferina less than $30 difference 01/2024
This is because this guy is just another generic elitist prick. Obviously he is going to be biased on the premise of the more expensive = superior in any way.
I agree.. He even don't know the home display of valeton can be changed to signal chain display..
Also double the price
Great video! Thanks for going into detaill. So, is it possible to use the Valeton thru an EVH Amp for effects only - no amp, cab? I like the EVH alot, so I'd wanna use it as a traditional Multi-Effects pedal. 🤘
If only the POD GO had XLR outs...I think that a unit that is almost $500 or more and it does not have XLR outputs, it’s not worth it, sorry...
@@MrEmoSant You can just Buy a trs to xlr cable for like $10
valeton vs MX5 please ?
Valeton costo 250 only
Does it come with fry's🤣
Another fantastic video, you even played some clean-er sounds Im there. I wish you would show what it sounds like playing jazz and blues though. Or maybe some surf tones. (Lulz)
But honestly, the GP200 (I’ve owned the GP100 and the POD GO) sounds…cheap. The pod go swept this under the rug imo.
I find that the eq controls on this pedal are absolutely useless
Pod GO : reliability ! ! ! valeton, abit new . . . damn, u r noisy ; LIKE ! ! !
Saya pengguna pod go, sekarang mati total 😢
Line 6 Pod Go wipes the floor with the Valeton
GP-200
Hola Taylor Danley no fui el primer comentario¡¡ >:3 , undefined, vine por cobre y terminare con un suscriptor, que te parece? :3,
In the mix.
Valentin: something is missing
Pod Go: full and rich